[Q] Take Xperia S with locked bootloader? - Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go

I have the opportunity to buy Xperia S, but from Orange PL so without the possibility of an official unlock bootloader.
From what I see at the moment, in my case there is no method to root, there more so flash custom kernels.
I love root, O/C, roms etc.
What to do?
Take Sony and pray that someone will break the protection (I accept paid method) or take a HTC with 100% possibility S-OFF?
Regards
Patric

Pacjonek said:
I have the opportunity to buy Xperia S, but from Orange PL so without the possibility of an official unlock bootloader.
From what I see at the moment, in my case there is no method to root, there more so flash custom kernels.
I love root, O/C, roms etc.
What to do?
Take Sony and pray that someone will break the protection (I accept paid method) or take a HTC with 100% possibility S-OFF?
Regards
Patric
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If you get an HTC from the same carrier, it'll likely be locked too. So make sure to check it first. Also Orange is quite fine with unlocked phones so your best bet will probably be getting an unlocked device and flashing away.
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Sony Website for me:
It's easy to relock the bootoader that way, and it's complete nonsense that they can tell that you unlocked the bootloader because you requested an unlock code.
Back when where Sony Ericsson, you were able to reqest the code before accepting the agreement. So technically you can reqeust the code and store it for feature use without any consequences for the warranty.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, I'd say: use the official method if it's possible. Relock is very easy.
sdk16420 said:
Sony Website for me:
It's easy to relock the bootoader that way, and it's complete nonsense that they can tell that you unlocked the bootloader because you requested an unlock code.
Back when where Sony Ericsson, you were able to reqest the code before accepting the agreement. So technically you can reqeust the code and store it for feature use without any consequences for the warranty.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, I'd say: use the official method if it's possible. Relock is very easy.
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At this point I only have a choice of either leaving bootloader locked or proceeding with the website unlock. Cannot unlock the phone using the unofficial method.
I think I'm going to go with the website unlock.
Would love to hear from someone who tried to repair their device after unlocking the device via sony website.
-Arturo- said:
Cannot unlock the phone using the unofficial method.
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Having problems, newer build date or you just afraid o doing it?
Madfysh said:
Having problems, newer build date or you just afraid o doing it?
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Latest device - 12W18 - unfortunately.
Cr*p I'.m on Sony website I already filled in my imei e-mail and name...but I'm afraid to press...send <lol>
Still don't know if I'm not making a mistake
Have you try with s1tool, or you just checked manufacture date?
And another question, is your phone sim-locked?
Madfysh said:
Have you try with s1tool, or you just checked manufacture date?
And another question, is your phone sim-locked?
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Actually I didn't I just checked the date and assumed that the device is too new to be unlocked using the unofficial method. It's a simlock free phone. So I guess it wouldn't be unwise to try the s1tool before unlocking via the website. I guess I need some "tools" to prepare this wire thingy.
Of course. Some factories start using new security earlier or later.
So try first. Good luck.
Website, since it doesn't void warranty unless I break it myself in which case tbh it would be a bit of a bs claim if I did try to claim warranty on it.
Also it's the official method, which though I know shouldn't be and probably isn't the case, to me seems safer.
Well I just unlocked via website hopefully i won't have to use the warranty.
I had unlocked boot with Omnius and free
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Well I just unlocked via website hopefully i won't have to use the warranty.
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I take that as you got error in s1tool?
I'm just curious
Madfysh said:
I take that as you got error in s1tool?
I'm just curious
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Yes it was an error.

[Q] Not possible to unlock phone - is there anyother method to do it?

Hi!
I've got a problem with unlocking my XPERIA U. It has Orange branded firmware, Android 2.3.7, and I'd like to change it to for example ICS. I wanted to unlock my bootloader, but I can see a message: Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Is there any possibility to unlock it, or not? And why this phone has no possibility to do it?
Regards,
linoskoczek
Unlock = debrand? If yes, just flash stock ROM 1.54 or 1.75 with flashtool.
You can make branded ftf backup before flashing, just in case.
BTW why do u want to unlock bootloader?
Odp: [Q] Not possible to unlock phone - is there anyother method to do it?
No, you can't unlock your phone. Probably you have simlock and locked bl by operator(Orange). But you can flash fw without Orange apps etc. Just go to development section and download latest ICS fw.
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Ahh that ****ty orange...
I've flashed it to ICS, but still unlocking is not possible. Anyway, do you think http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460 will root the phone? It's just a one thing I can do without unlocking xperia.
linoskoczek said:
Ahh that ****ty orange...
I've flashed it to ICS, but still unlocking is not possible. Anyway, do you think http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460 will root the phone? It's just a one thing I can do without unlocking xperia.
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I think the only thing you can't do in SXP with locked bootloader is flashing custom kernel. So, the answer is yes, you can root the phone without unlocking bootloader as well as e.g. install CWM recovery.

[Q] About Unlocked and Roms

Well my case is like this!
I'm looking to buy a motorola photon online,it was on spring and it suposed to be unlocked for every carrier. i'm from mexico, we use telcel.
The motorola photon only comes with GB android, and i've always like to modify my phones with roms, root, etcs.
Before i do any transaction i'd like to know if i can instal ICS roms or any other cooked roms without loosing the unlocked carrier?.
I know that theres a lot of ways on unlocking carriers like imei and other programs, but if i loose it, the unlocking is gonna cost me something?
Unlocking the bootloader is only to install roms? or i can do an unlocking carrier by unlocking the bootloader? it cost me anything?
This method by Lokifish Marz is to unlock bootloader or carrier???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20331623&postcount=6
I had been investigating about that but i dont find an straight anwser! im sorry if this looks to newbish, i know if i open the bootloader i can install another kernels and roms, but i loose the 4G :crying::crying: and if the cel is 2.3.5 it can´t be unlocked! it has to be downgrade!
i hope you can helpme! thanks a lot!
Txuy said:
Well my case is like this!
can instal ICS roms or any other cooked roms without loosing the unlocked carrier?.
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unlocking bootloader and installing a custom rom will not make you lose sim unlock
Txuy said:
the unlocking is gonna cost me something?
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sim unlocking is usually only possible via SOLD sim unlock codes so yes, if you need to sim unlock you have to pay
Txuy said:
Unlocking the bootloader is only to install roms?
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unlocking the bootloader is done to be able to flash custom recovery, custom ROMs and custom Kernels, improving the performance and usability of your device
Txuy said:
or i can do an unlocking carrier by unlocking the bootloader? it cost me anything?
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bootloader unlocking and carrier unlocking are not related. bootloader unlocking can be done for free by yourself with the help of the info here in XDA. SIM unlocking requires a code you usually have to buy.
Txuy said:
This method by Lokifish Marz is to unlock bootloader or carrier???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20331623&postcount=6
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unlock bootloader
Txuy said:
I had been investigating about that but i dont find an straight anwser! im sorry if this looks to newbish, i know if i open the bootloader i can install another kernels and roms, but i loose the 4G :crying::crying:
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losing 4G shouldn't be of much concern to you. Telcel doesn't use WIMAX 4G so you wouldn't have had any use to it anyway.
Txuy said:
and if the cel is 2.3.5 it can´t be unlocked! it has to be downgrade!
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if the cell is 2.3.5 already it cannot be unlocked and you CANNOT downgrade it because you risk HARD brick
The sim is only locked in US.
All other sims work.
But stuck on GB. Even if you could flash ICS the photons kernel is so old the video doesn't work well.
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Unlocked G3[Solved/Closed]

Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
aukhan said:
Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
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Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
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meyerweb said:
Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
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Droid2drummer said:
As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
Sent from rotary technology Phone
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Thanks for such a detailed answer,
Now when I get the bhone should i be unlocking Bootloader ?
Please suggest me an easy way to ROOT this device?
Which is the most customizied Rom available on this Sprint Thread, I am sure I should not be flashing any other Carrier Roms or International Version of ROM which may Brick the device.
My Friend is claiming that is factory unlocked,Is there a way to find if device is Factory unlocked ??

HTC Warranty with unlocked bootloader

Hi,I want to install custom rom. (like most people) but, With htc one m7 I used the warranty, so, I want to be able to use it with the M8. My question is. to return full stock, its need s off right? Right now I cant afford 25 for the soff (in my country, outside of USA is a little more difficult because the conversion). So, if I use the dev unlock bootloader, Can I install custom any rom ( i ask because I dont know where I saw custom rom requiring S-OFF) and then do the s off after a while (maybe 2 o 3 months). If I use dev unlock from htc, they will be able to track that I install custom roms? And how about bricks, wich side is safest (only unlock bootloader or Soff) and wich side is more easy to recover?.
Thanks in advance
lorddavid said:
Hi,I want to install custom rom. (like most people) but, With htc one m7 I used the warranty, so, I want to be able to use it with the M8. My question is. to return full stock, its need s off right? Right now I cant afford 25 for the soff (in my country, outside of USA is a little more difficult because the conversion). So, if I use the dev unlock bootloader, Can I install custom any rom ( i ask because I dont know where I saw custom rom requiring S-OFF) and then do the s off after a while (maybe 2 o 3 months). If I use dev unlock from htc, they will be able to track that I install custom roms?
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HTC will typically not honor a warranty for a device purchased from and intended for another country. However, how HTC handles warranty seems to vary from one location to another. Did you buy the M7 from the US?
Along those lines, how HTC handles bootloader unlocks via HTCDev.com also seems to vary from one country to another. Yes, they can and will track the phones IMEI by HTCDev.com, and know you requested a bootloader unlock code. Some folks have had their warranty claims denied that way. But others are successful returning the phone to bootloader LOCKED (not RELOCKED, s-off required to make it LOCKED after unlocking it), stock software, possibly s-on.
You don't need s-off to flash ROM. But you will want to make sure your firmware is up to date. If the phone is on stock Lollipop, the firmware is probably up to date (especially if the phone was purchased new, not used). Otherwise, s-off makes it a bit easier to update firmware, but its also possible with s-on.
lorddavid said:
And how about bricks, wich side is safest (only unlock bootloader or Soff) and wich side is more easy to recover?.
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Are you talking about recovering from no-boot conditions? s-off always gives more options. But most cases of no boot are solved by flashing custom recovery again, flashing a ROM, or other functions possible with s-on.
Yes, with M7 I bought it from ATT, and they honor the warranty, but IN USA. I was there in vacation and send it. I'm in kitkat, I didnt update with RUU because dont know if sunshine works on latest firmware. So, even if I unlock with dev unlock. And after that I use S-OFF to make it Locked, they still can track it? In theory is better to go with S-OFF directly?
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Yes, with M7 I bought it from ATT, and they honor the warranty, but IN USA. I was there in vacation and send it.
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Based on reports I've seen on XDA, your warranty won't be honored since you are not located in the US. Of course, if you travel back to the US, or send it to a US friend to send in for warranty, that might work.
lorddavid said:
I'm in kitkat, I didnt update with RUU because dont know if sunshine works on latest firmware. So, even if I unlock with dev unlock. And after that I use S-OFF to make it Locked, they still can track it? In theory is better to go with S-OFF directly?
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Sunshine s-off function still works on Lollipop. However, the root function does not (and root is needed to s-off). Some folks have temp rooted, and able to get s-off to work (then bootloader unlock).
But I would recommend using sunshine to root, s-off then bootloader unlock (bypassing HTCDev.com) all those things with sunshine; while still on KitKat (before RUU to Lollipop), if you are worried about warranty.
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So, even if I unlock with dev unlock. And after that I use S-OFF to make it Locked, they still can track it?
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Yes, they can still track it. The bootloader unlock code is based on your IMEI, and they are probably tracking/recording the IMEI numbers that go through HTCDev.com.
I think some folks have been successful making the phone back to LOCKED (and even s-off) and of course also stock software, and getting the warranty honored. But I'd say its no guarantee. Some folks will also say they can't "legally" void your warranty for requesting an unlock bin code (as long as you return to "full" stock) as they can only prove you requested a code, not that you actually used it.
But at that point, its your word against there's. HTC holds the cards here. You can try to fight it, but in the meantime you still don't have a working phone.
To some degree, when we all mod our phones, we have to assume that there is some risk that warranty will be void.
Ok, so I think that I will save mone for S-OFF, better play safe. Just a question, to update firmware I need to RUU? (After S-Off of course) Or can you point me to a guide to flash latest sense and lollipop rom? (I know how to flash recovery, s off, etc. but not sure about the match of firmware or what firmware/radio to use). THanks
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Ok, so I think that I will save mone for S-OFF, better play safe. Just a question, to update firmware I need to RUU? (After S-Off of course) Or can you point me to a guide to flash latest sense and lollipop rom? (I know how to flash recovery, s off, etc. but not sure about the match of firmware or what firmware/radio to use).
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You can update firmware (after s-off) with AT&T Lollipop RUU, or by flashing a firmware.zip in fastboot.
Flashing AT&T firmware will keep the same band support. If you want to change the band support, you can flash another version's firmware. But it depends on what bands your carrier uses for 3G and 4G (LTE).
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You can update firmware (after s-off) with AT&T Lollipop RUU, or by flashing a firmware.zip in fastboot.
Flashing AT&T firmware will keep the same band support. If you want to change the band support, you can flash another version's firmware. But it depends on what bands your carrier uses for 3G and 4G (LTE).
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Its more fast to just flash the firmware i think, because I dont need to download all the RUU.
And with the HTC really can change the band support? I think that is something of hardware. But if that can be done I want to try it.
I will search for the Firmware for flash. If I have problems I will ask. Thanks again
EDIT: I'm preparing , found some firmware but cant see from wich carrier are. Are those https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32780
EDIT 2: I found that the numbers means the region. So, whats the latest firmware? Can I flash it even if my phone is ATT? Because I saw Just 1 for ATT
lorddavid said:
And with the HTC really can change the band support? I think that is something of hardware. But if that can be done I want to try it.
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You are somewhat correct, in that before the M8, band support was set in hardware on most (or all?) phones.
But a new feature of the Snapdragon 801 chipset, is that band support is set in software. Flashing another CID's firmware will change the band support (may need to change CID and MID, and s-off required to change CID/MID).
lorddavid said:
EDIT: I'm preparing , found some firmware but cant see from wich carrier are. Are those https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=32780
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AT&T is 502. But that thread only has 1.54.502 (which is same or probably even older than current firmware), and what you want (latest) is 4.28.502.
You can get the 4.28.502 firmware on the following thread, but you have to download the ROM with it (all packed in the same zip):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
Not sure if 4.28.502 firmware is posted by itself anywhere else (I haven't seen so).
redpoint73 said:
You are somewhat correct, in that before the M8, band support was set in hardware on most (or all?) phones.
But a new feature of the Snapdragon 801 chipset, is that band support is set in software. Flashing another CID's firmware will change the band support (may need to change CID and MID, and s-off required to change CID/MID).
AT&T is 502. But that thread only has 1.54.502 (which is same or probably even older than current firmware), and what you want (latest) is 4.28.502.
You can get the 4.28.502 firmware on the following thread, but you have to download the ROM with it (all packed in the same zip):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
Not sure if 4.28.502 firmware is posted by itself anywhere else (I haven't seen so).
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Thanks, thats new to me. And yes I found under 1540 a more recent firmware. So there is 0 risk of brick flashing other firmware right? I need SuperCID? Or is the same with ATT? (I'm curious for trying because with my phone my 3G speed is capped to 1mb dont know why, and other friends, same plan, other phone, have more speed)
lorddavid said:
Thanks, thats new to me. And yes I found under 1540 a more recent firmware. I need SuperCID? Or is the same with ATT?
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Pretty sure you need to change your CID either to Dev Edition CID or SuperCID.
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So there is 0 risk of brick flashing other firmware right?
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There is never zero brick risk. Your phone can brick just sitting there, doing nothing (very unlikely, but its possible). In particular, flashing hboot (which firmware does) if anything goes wrong (for instance, don't disconnect the phone while its flashing!) while writing hboot, it will brick.
But flashing another CID's firmware is low risk. Probably no more risk than flashing the proper CID firmware, or doing an official RUU or OTA.

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