Sometimes when I fling a page down like Engadget, the scrolling seems smooth until it slows down and lags for a couple frames before stopping. Is there anyway to stop this? I have flash content turned off. The same page on my Nexus just seems so much smoother. I figured a Tegra 3 would be able to handle web page rendering a bit better.
The same thing happens for Nova Launcher, when I hit the apps drawer button, sometimes my Prime will be a little choppy rendering my apps. On my Nexus, it's always super smooth.
I'm running Jermaine's AOKP build, but it happens on any ROM I've tried to flash. Is there any particular reason why this is happening?
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Sometimes when I fling a page down like Engadget, the scrolling seems smooth until it slows down and lags for a couple frames before stopping. Is there anyway to stop this? I have flash content turned off. The same page on my Nexus just seems so much smoother. I figured a Tegra 3 would be able to handle web page rendering a bit better.
The same thing happens for Nova Launcher, when I hit the apps drawer button, sometimes my Prime will be a little choppy rendering my apps. On my Nexus, it's always super smooth.
I'm running Jermaine's AOKP build, but it happens on any ROM I've tried to flash. Is there any particular reason why this is happening?
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I wonder the same thing. I use AOKP on my droid Razr and it runs like a champ (and we aren't even using an ICS kernel yet LMAO!) but I have similar issues on my prime, even clocked at 4x1.8ghz.
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I wonder the same thing. I use AOKP on my droid Razr and it runs like a champ (and we aren't even using an ICS kernel yet LMAO!) but I have similar issues on my prime, even clocked at 4x1.8ghz.
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Yeah, I don't think it should be necessary to overclock a quad-core Tegra 3 to 1.8Ghz just for that. I have my max clock set at 1.3Ghz, or 1.5Ghz if I'm feeling adventurous
Have you guys tried another other ROM to see if the browsing is better?
I am unable to try that as I am stuck with a locked bootloader (stupid unknown s/n that never got fixed properly in the RMA).
I've seen others complain about Internet browsing and just haven't experienced problems. My only complaint with browsers on the Prime and my GNex for that matter is poor flash performance and being forced to view web pages in mobile mode. I absolutely hate that. The hardware in my GNex and especially this Prime is more than capable of rendering full HTML. This tablet is faster than my daughters Netbook and faster than one of my laptops. I wish Google and developers would get with the program and deliver a full browser experience. I've been using Dolphin with my Prime and it seems to be the better browser I've tried so far. I can at least set it up so that it operates in "desktop mode" giving me full HTML browsing; however, it's still not as good as it should be. I like Chrome. I wish Google would give us tablet users the full Chrome experience. There's no reason not to have the full and complete browser at our disposal.
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I'm beginning to think it is the Tegra 3/Nvidia optimizations. Not a good example but the HTC One X sure has a lot of browser issues.
Even though it doesn't have flash, Safari on the iphone/ipads sure are fast considering its many cores and mhz down. Software can make a big difference.
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Saw this over on the One X forum. http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/
The fire in Diablo ad is smooth on my exynos Galaxy S2 while its slow mo on the Prime. Just like phonearena's video of the Galaxy Nexus(fast) vs One X(slow).
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I'm beginning to think it is the Tegra 3/Nvidia optimizations. Not a good example but the HTC One X sure has a lot of browser issues.
Even though it doesn't have flash, Safari on the iphone/ipads sure are fast considering its many cores and mhz down. Software can make a big difference.
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Saw this over on the One X forum. http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/
The fire in Diablo ad is smooth on my exynos Galaxy S2 while its slow mo on the Prime. Just like phonearena's video of the Galaxy Nexus(fast) vs One X(slow).
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Is this something that can be fixed in future updates from Asus since they're the ones with access to the proper Tegra 3 drivers?
opera mobile solved all previous browser issues for me. smooth & fluid as a mofo. plays flash with no problems. loads pages the fastest. lag free scrolling. And all of this is on stock 1.2Ghz
It's not so bad for me. This is engadget full site. Taken with my phone camera so not the greatest and shows distortion and choppiness while recording. Overall very smooth browsing.
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demandarin said:
opera mobile solved all previous browser issues for me. smooth & fluid as a mofo. plays flash with no problems. loads pages the fastest. lag free scrolling. And all of this is on stock 1.2Ghz
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I would tend to agree with you but Opera has been crashing on me. I'll be browsing then bam....crash lol.Pisses me off.Also has problems running YouTube videos all the way thru too.I even uninstalled & reinstalled but no dice.It does load pages insanely fast though.
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opera mobile solved all previous browser issues for me. smooth & fluid as a mofo. plays flash with no problems. loads pages the fastest. lag free scrolling. And all of this is on stock 1.2Ghz
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well, the reason for lag isn't the Prime or the browser. it is ics 4.03. memory intensive tasks like javascript are performed in the main thread rather then in several threads in the background. running in the main thread in the foreground (i think single core) means it locks up your machine. the other processes have to wait until the one foreground process is done. and it doesn't help the prime that its internal memory/sd card is rather slow (cheap).
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running opera mobile with page rendering on a server means you skip the javascript handling on your device. that is why opera is / looks faster. I think Sony's engineers have solved the problem on their machines and I think it will be solved in ics 4.04
BrianMigs said:
Sometimes when I fling a page down like Engadget, the scrolling seems smooth until it slows down and lags for a couple frames before stopping. Is there anyway to stop this? I have flash content turned off. The same page on my Nexus just seems so much smoother. I figured a Tegra 3 would be able to handle web page rendering a bit better.
The same thing happens for Nova Launcher, when I hit the apps drawer button, sometimes my Prime will be a little choppy rendering my apps. On my Nexus, it's always super smooth.
I'm running Jermaine's AOKP build, but it happens on any ROM I've tried to flash. Is there any particular reason why this is happening?
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Could be the browser, have you tried other browsers instead of the stock one?
I found that on previous versions (.21 seems better) if i had too many icons on my homescreens scrolling between screens was slow, different launchers were faster.
The same way you can notice a difference running chrome and IE on a desktop you can notice differences in different apps on android. Its just a matter of finding ones that work how you want. Maybe nova launcher isnt for you, have you tried others? Maybe in your custom rom they tweaked something, maybe more adjustments need to be made.
You can't compare your Nexus and your Prime, they are two different beasts. One is a motorcycle and one is a car. Different processors, different GPU's, different screen sizes, Different browsers, differen launchers, hell even different versions of ICS. Yes they both run the same apps, and run genereally the same way, but they are very very different.
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well, the reason for lag isn't the Prime or the browser. it is ics 4.03. memory intensive tasks like javascript are performed in the main thread rather then in several threads in the background. running in the main thread in the foreground (i think single core) means it locks up your machine. the other processes have to wait until the one foreground process is done. and it doesn't help the prime that its internal memory/sd card is rather slow (cheap).
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running opera mobile with page rendering on a server means you skip the javascript handling on your device. that is why opera is / looks faster. I think Sony's engineers have solved the problem on their machines and I think it will be solved in ics 4.04
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I'm talking about opera mobile, not opera mini. opera mini is the one sent through severs and compressed in all that to be extra fast. Opera mini is a stripped down non flash version of opera mobile. I run opera mobile with flash on and still does everything fast. I don't cut on the Turbo mode or anything so its the straight browser working. Regardless, for me, its by far the best. I hardly ever run into sites it doesn't display properly. I have like 6 of the top browsers. no matter how many times I switch to compare, opera mobile comes out on top.
So even if its true that opera servers handle page rendering. more kudos to them. less work for my prime to do and is probably a factor into why opera mobile also uses the least amount of battery out of all the ones I have. plus opera mobile is the only browser to let you upload files and pix from it. when downloading or uploading through it, its the only one that brings up a mini file explorer to let you choose which folder you want to save to. Im not talking about others where you have to go thru settings and choose a folder and every time it downloads to that folder. opera mobile brings up a file explorer that you can choose whatever folder you want for each individual download or upload. Plus opera mobile is the only browser that doesn't hang on huge downloads or mess them up by improperly labeling them. I've downloaded plenty of big movie and rom files(FPse) with no issue.
IMO, no browser is touching Opera mobile right now. they definitely know what their doing when it comes to making a great browser. I rarely get any pop up messages telling me to wait or crashing.
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Funny, but when I continuously scroll page, or scroll with right bar – no lag or freeze. When i use standard finger swipe scrolling with timeouts (1 sec more than enough) - every new swipe starts with lag. I think cpu is drop down to sleep phase in browser somehow.
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Funny, but when I continuously scroll page, or scroll with right bar – no lag or freeze. When i use standard finger swipe scrolling with timeouts (1 sec more than enough) - every new swipe starts with lag. I think cpu is drop down to sleep phase in browser somehow.
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Ditto. Finger scroll is so stuttery for me as if I'm running single core.
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Which you probably are, since ninja core is supposed to take care of simple tasks like browsing.
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I noticed that scroll bar vs finger scrolling too.
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Which you probably are, since ninja core is supposed to take care of simple tasks like browsing.
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Web browsing is not a simple task.
demandarin said:
I'm talking about opera mobile, not opera mini. opera mini is the one sent through severs and compressed in all that to be extra fast. Opera mini is a stripped down non flash version of opera mobile. I run opera mobile with flash on and still does everything fast. I don't cut on the Turbo mode or anything so its the straight browser working. Regardless, for me, its by far the best. I hardly ever run into sites it doesn't display properly. I have like 6 of the top browsers. no matter how many times I switch to compare, opera mobile comes out on top.
So even if its true that opera servers handle page rendering. more kudos to them. less work for my prime to do and is probably a factor into why opera mobile also uses the least amount of battery out of all the ones I have. plus opera mobile is the only browser to let you upload files and pix from it. when downloading or uploading through it, its the only one that brings up a mini file explorer to let you choose which folder you want to save to. Im not talking about others where you have to go thru settings and choose a folder and every time it downloads to that folder. opera mobile brings up a file explorer that you can choose whatever folder you want for each individual download or upload. Plus opera mobile is the only browser that doesn't hang on huge downloads or mess them up by improperly labeling them. I've downloaded plenty of big movie and rom files(FPse) with no issue.
IMO, no browser is touching Opera mobile right now. they definitely know what their doing when it comes to making a great browser. I rarely get any pop up messages telling me to wait or crashing.
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when i try opera mobile i always get a very stuttered scroll. is there a way to get rid of that? it loads the page fast and so forth, but the scrolling just sucks.
I have no problems of this kind. Browsing is very smooth for me, I used to have those lock ups, but it seems Boat browser solved my problems. I'm stock and I have forced 2d acceleration enabled.
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On my N1, I've been happily using Miren browser for about a year now. So far, there is not a single browser that really is impressive on honeycomb - am I missing something?
Opera
pros - seems fastest so far (on most pages), quick scroll option, find on page works
cons - can't play flash?!, really struggles with blogspot in particular, but other random sites as well
Stock
pros - everything works
cons - it just works slowly
Firefox -
pros - the layout is wonderful, find on page works
cons - no quick scroll/bottom of page option, no flash?!, poor resolution(?)
Dolphin Browser
pros - nice layout, fast (close to opera), works on every site I use
cons - no fast scroll or find on page, gestures for side menus very sensitive, no navigation/tabs bar when you scroll down without pressing menu
Does this sum up everyone else's experience? Unfortunately, I have to use multiple browsers, depending on the websites I intend to go to. Dolphin is the closest to being the best for me, but I read blogs with extremely long comment pages making it absolutely non usable. For work, our website has a flash component taking Opera out as an every use player (and Firefox). Stock browser is significantly slower in my real world anecdotal evidence, so I really don't like it.
I've used Boat browser on my phone, but didn't really like it. Maybe I'll give that another go tonight.
I'm also looking for the best browser. Tried dolphin hd, Firefox, stock. My issue is that the flex t9 keyboard doesn't allow swype mode on nearly all browser url/ search bars. Don't know what the deal with that is. Firefox allows it, however.
Would like to see more feedback on this thread to help point me in the right direction.
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Just tried opera mobile. This might be a keeper. Allows swype keyboard on url and search bar. Fast page loading. Good looking interface.
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Wow i'm glad you started this thread.I'm going to pick up mine tomorrow & for me browser performance is crucial to me.Has anyone tried Dolphin for Pad yet?
Also i have this posted everywhere but what will ICS do for the browser?I've seen the Tegra 3 videos on youtube where page rendering on Tegra 3 vs Tegra 2 was no competition at all.The pages were loading lightning fast.Is this what ICS brings? Is this the reason ASUS wanted the tablet to ship with ICS?
Have you tried Miren? I use it on my phone and I like it a lot.
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Dolphin Browser
pros - nice layout, fast (close to opera), works on every site I use
cons - no fast scroll or find on page, gestures for side menus very sensitive, no navigation/tabs bar when you scroll down without pressing menu
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Just FYI, the "find on page" option is in the extended menu under MENU > MORE. I really think they should make it more accessible. As for "Dolphin for pad" its still in beta and doesn't have all the features of DolphinHD, so I don't find it as useful.
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On my N1, I've been happily using Miren browser for about a year now...
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I haven't hear of that one. I'll have to try it out. I also tried Opera Mobile on my N1, but I didn't like the bar at the bottom always taking up so much real estate.
Anyone tried maxthon browser? Not sure if it works on HC, but its a nice browser.
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I have used xscope in the past, but that was not on a tablet. I can't believe how nice the tablet is though. I also have not had any problems with wifi or anything else people had mentioned.
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I have used xscope in the past, but that was not on a tablet. I can't believe how nice the tablet is though. I also have not had any problems with wifi or anything else people had mentioned.
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Someone should test xscope It's what I use on my revo and I'm curious how it runs on a tablet
opera browser is the best. who said it doesnt play flash? opera mini doesnt but opera mobile does. dolphinhd would be next in line. those the only two i need.
So far I like Opera best, but the flash issues are a real problem. Also wish it handled tabs like Dolphin.
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opera browser is the best. who said it doesnt play flash? opera mini doesnt but opera mobile does. dolphinhd would be next in line. those the only two i need.
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It has issues with embedded YouTube videos on forum pages for one thing. Video is just black while sound plays.
i was hoping the stock was gonna be good enough since my acer a100 stock browser is pretty smooth. I feel like im using gtab with the browser. Even the Lenovo ideapad K1 was smoother than this. I'll have to try dolphin then.
I have heard that the stock one on ics will be much better, but isn't flash going to be unavailable in the ics browser?
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I have heard that the stock one on ics will be much better, but isn't flash going to be unavailable in the ics browser?
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Flash has already updated to support ICS.
In relation to Opera and Flash - it works perfectly on my Galaxy SII and Galaxy Note. Struggle to see why it wouldn't on the Prime. I presume you're on the latest version of the Flash Player? Perhaps try an older one if not, it may be that the ICS update broke some stuff elsewhere...
So far I have only used the stock browser and opera mobile. I like opera but I have yet to try it on Flash sites.
I am using the Google keyboard instead of the Asus keyboard and I can type a lot faster.
on edit: I just tested Flash on opera mobile and it worked like a charm.
Re: Opera not playing flash. Try going to southpark and playing an episode. Or go to watchseries.eu and follow any of their links to videozer, videobb, etc. I can click on flash, but then its just a black screen. Sometimes sounds starts to work, but mostly not. Its the same with my work site. Its a known problem that a quick google will show you.
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Dolphin
I found I can do bottom of page, switch tabs, access the search bar, etc. through gestures. Definitely not ideal, but makes it at least a passable single solution browser.
Boat Browser
pros - really fast, everything works
cons - no bottom of page/fast scroll, not a huge personal fan of bottom of the screen tool bars
Maxthon Pad (not the tampon...)
pros - fast, everything works
cons - no bottom of page/fast scroll, not a huge personal fan of bottom of the screen tool bars
Sleipner Mobile
pros - gesture use without having to select something to do gestures
cons - gesture use without having to select something to do gestures. My experience, they need to have a specific screen area where gestures work, otherwise you accidentally go forward, backward, switch tabs, etc. way too often
Miren browser doesn't work on honeycomb I'm guessing, because it doesn't show up in search results for it.
I've had problems with my View with the Stock ROM, Desensed (up to 1.5), and CypherROM (haven't tried the latest) with Dolphin HD (and I am pretty sure the stock browser) and rendering performance. Basically, it appears that on some sites Flash and HTML5 performance degrades to the point of being unusable. An example is google instant search, as you start typing, sometimes the performance degrades so much that I can't even type a word because of the input lag (or delete one). There seems to be no rhyme or reason.
I didn't notice the problem until I went from rooted stock to Desensed, and then it continued on CypherROM alpha. I don't know if I didn't notice it at first (we were still honeymooning then) or if it's something that started when I went to a custom ROM. I do know that it's the only reason I don't use my tablet almost exclusively when I have it (my phone is a GS2).
Any ideas? If no one has suggestions, I'm going to just flash it back to stock and start over.
I see similar issues on my flyer
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I am completely stock with no root on Honeycomb. I get problems with the stock browser, but Dolphin seems to work fine for me.
I notice my browser and typing experience slows down at random times. This tends to happen more frequently with browsers like stock, dolphin hd, and boat. It speeds up again after restarting the program.
Opera mobile has been the fastest for me so far. Except flash plays out of sync.
Typing is a nightmare with the stock browser. It's great with Opera, though. I've gone back to using Opera exclusively. Great little browser.
Why don't we title this "Browser Personal Preferences"? Pretty random answers. Delays of this type are also probably very dependent on how fast your internet connection is.
My issue with the stock browser has been random browser shutdowns in HC which I didn't have in GB. I have had a couple of shutdowns using Dolphin, but not as many.
DigitalMD said:
Why don't we title this "Browser Personal Preferences"? Pretty random answers. Delays of this type are also probably very dependent on how fast your internet connection is.
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Why do you think it's dependent on the internet connection?
For the OP: yeah, keyboard lag is pretty apparent in a lot of the browsers, and I remember googling it when I first got my flyer. I liked Dolphin HD, for example, but the keyboard lag was unbearable. I've had the best luck with Opera Mobile, so I suggest you play around with the different browser offerings.
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Why don't we title this "Browser Personal Preferences"? Pretty random answers. Delays of this type are also probably very dependent on how fast your internet connection is.
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How exactly is a thread asking if there is a known issue with the Flyer/View and HTML5/Flash performance supposed to be named browser preferences? I asked if anyone had heard of the issue, and if they had a suggestion or knew if it was ROM related. This has absolutely nothing to do with my internet connection, it has everything to do with rendering performance on Flash/HTML5. For the record, I live in an area with great WiMax coverage and speeds, and this happens on 12Mb/s WiMax and my 6Mb/s DSL at home.
It's also not just keyboard lag, it's all input in general.
In going back to GB, honestly I think its just HC.
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Why do you think it's dependent on the internet connection?
For the OP: yeah, keyboard lag is pretty apparent in a lot of the browsers, and I remember googling it when I first got my flyer. I liked Dolphin HD, for example, but the keyboard lag was unbearable. I've had the best luck with Opera Mobile, so I suggest you play around with the different browser offerings.
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For a couple of reasons.
1. Depending on the keyboard you are using , it may be going to the internet on each key press looking for suggestions.
2. The stock browsers go to google as you type looking for suggestion.
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Why do you think it's dependent on the internet connection?
For the OP: yeah, keyboard lag is pretty apparent in a lot of the browsers, and I remember googling it when I first got my flyer. I liked Dolphin HD, for example, but the keyboard lag was unbearable. I've had the best luck with Opera Mobile, so I suggest you play around with the different browser offerings.
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Due to the random answers>... "stock browser lags"... "no it doesn't but Dolphin does", "not"," it doesn't but this does" or that does, or maybe it does or does not.
Personally I have the stock HC Rom with the stock HTC browser using Swiftykey Tablet keyboard and FIOS high speed internet on wifi and I see no lag on the browser at all.
But clearly some people have some combinations of browser / keyboard / net access /CPU governor /ROM , that gives them issues.
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What I am disappointed is I cannot sync the bookmark with PC chrome
So I lost root with the latest version, as did many people.
And now I hate browsing on this device, 90% of the time I get browser lag with the force close warning. When rooted with the ad blocker everything was so smooth. All the javascripts from the ads slow down the browser, is this the case with ipad too?
Damn I need my root access back.
I never understood why people kept complaining about the slow browser. Now I do.
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So I lost root with the latest version, as did many people.
And now I hate browsing on this device, 90% of the time I get browser lag with the force close warning. When rooted with the ad blocker everything was so smooth. All the javascripts from the ads slow down the browser, is this the case with ipad too?
Damn I need my root access back.
I never understood why people kept complaining about the slow browser. Now I do.
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I will not answer the iPad queston because then I'm a fanboy. Anyway, did you try a different browser like Chrome or Dolphin Browser HD? These are much faster then the default in my experience, Chrome doens't support flash (as far as I know), Dolphin does.
Go in browser setting, advance, uncheck javascript and put plug-ins on demand, close browser including in last use app then go back in. Should improve browsing
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I will not answer the iPad queston because then I'm a fanboy. Anyway, did you try a different browser like Chrome or Dolphin Browser HD? These are much faster then the default in my experience, Chrome doens't support flash (as far as I know), Dolphin does.
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Dolphin doesn't always show tabs, it hides them when you scroll down. Current Chrome version is too featureless for normal use
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Dolphin doesn't always show tabs, it hides them when you scroll down. Current Chrome version is too featureless for normal use
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Isn't that a setting in the menu for Dolphin? I believe it is somewhere, but I'm not really sure.
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Go in browser setting, advance, uncheck javascript and put plug-ins on demand, close browser including in last use app then go back in. Should improve browsing
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It does, but it gives me a broken web experience.
I use Quick ICS Browser and its all good.
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I use Quick ICS Browser and its all good.
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That's what I'm using.
And there is no setting in Dolphin to always show tabs.
Man this crap is getting freaking old!
Why the hell do I have to go into settings, turn this off, enable on demand, etc etc....
This tablet was touted with a quad core chip running 1.4 MHz on performance mode, yada yada...why the hell can't it handle a heavy web page! Wtf!!
My 2 year old HTC Evo....rooted running cm7....is smoother. I can screw up and hit page back, and hit menu then click a bookmark flawlessly ...
But the OP does bring up a great point. I have adfree on my phone and I guess I haven't realized that it makes that much of a difference.
Don't know, maybe its just me, but why do you have to go thru all sorts of settings just to get a smooth internet experience?
Sorry for the rant, I still love the little beast. Just get the browser straight and I might not be scared to recommended the Prime to others....
Using ICS+ browser with adblock, flash and java script enabled all the time and everthing is butter smooth here
This is actually the best browsing experience ever. Especially with the keyboard dock and the addition of the Overskreen floating browser i prefer it to my desktop most of the time! I dont even start it up anymore unless i need it for my music progs or gaming. Its just PEWPEW!
Also in iCS+ you can set back and forward to screen swipes and that also works with the touchpad. Its so cool to just swipe around and control everything that way toghether with the keyboard shortcuts.
yeah adblocker or ad free makes a world of difference. you could also enable the force gpu rendering in developer options in settings to speed things up.
ill answer the other question since Joey didn't..lol. Ipad browsing is decent but not nearly as good as its made out to be. plus Ipad doesn't even support flash so its not loading up the ads. its as if it runs browser with adblocker on. stock safari browser sux. you can get a good 3rd. party one like Icab or Atomic browser on Ipad and do well. but really all 3rd party Ipad browsers aren't true 3rd party ones. 99% of them are based off of Safari or have sacrifice engine as the core of it. but my prime is way faster and smoother than my Ipad. as far as web browsing and scrolling lag free. my Ipad can't even touch my prime no matter what its doing.
I have my prime on 1Ghz top speed and using opera Mobile. the web pages still load near instant and experiencing no lag at all scrolling. I am rooted and have adfree on. plus I forced gpu rendering. I'm truly amazed how well this tablet performs even having 1Ghz as my top speed. can't even tell the difference hardly cuz everything so fast and fluid.
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It does, but it gives me a broken web experience.
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Leave java on then guarantee most of the lag is from waiting for all the flash to load set to on demand you can still view them just hit the down arrow of the vid you want to view. Far from broken web Haven't seen the wait window since I changed my setting and I always run on performance
yeah i made a thread about losing root and how much it sucks not having adfree yeseterday. it SUCKS. the thing is i doubt there is the urgency to find a new root method there was at the beginning either because so many have root still.
is there even away to gain root access if i unlock? i don't even think there is a stock rooted .21 custom rom out to load anyways and from what i've read all the other custom roms don't play well with the keyboard.
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Leave java on then guarantee most of the lag is from waiting for all the flash to load set to on demand you can still view them just hit the down arrow of the vid you want to view. Far from broken web Haven't seen the wait window since I changed my setting and I always run on performance
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This is just from my bookmarks:
http://lifehacker.com/
http://gawker.com/
http://www.gametrailers.com/
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/
http://gizmodo.com/
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All broken without javascript.
javascript has been an intricate part of the web since the Netscape Navigator browser, practically every browser since Netscape have relied on javascript, not to be confused with Sun/Oracle Java . Turning off javascript in a browser would be like turning image viewing, you're going to end up with a crappy web browsing experience.
Google and ASUS not being able to address this is a shame.
With the last update... Asus finally fixed the Screen tearing and flickering that made the Prime look like an amateur programmed it. I'm annoyed that the browser lag is still there under normal use if I keep javascript on. Like others have said, an end user should not have to disable and tweak a bunch of stuff just to get decent performance. Constantly turning javascript on and off depending on the site is pretty annoying and does not make for an enjoyable browsing experience. It also doesn't seem to help the PULSE news app at all.
While I love my Prime, it's pretty sad to see my HP Touchpad absolutely destroying it when comparing the two at web browsing. The Touchpad on an alpha release of CM9 seriously blows the Prime away on the stock browser... Never had a wait message pop up while surfing even heavy pages...it just works. I can't even scroll right away on the Prime while the page is loading. I have to either wait for some elements to load or for the dreaded Wait/Ok to pop up. On my Touchpad or ipad 2..this issue is nonexistent.
I hope that this is the next priority on Asus list. User experience is an important thing...and a laggy browser and screen tearing should never have made it past quality control.
Now, I don't want to be all negative, so I will say that one of my test sites always runs best on the Prime stock browser, and that is:
http://www.pirateslovedaisies.com/
This site won't even finish loading on an ipad 2 (don't know about the 3) and runs slower on the Touchpad with CM9 (and not at all on Web OS) so at least we know the Prime is decent with complex HTML5 in some cases.
avlon said:
With the last update... Asus finally fixed the Screen tearing and flickering that made the Prime look like an amateur programmed it. I'm annoyed that the browser lag is still there under normal use if I keep javascript on. Like others have said, an end user should not have to disable and tweak a bunch of stuff just to get decent performance. Constantly turning javascript on and off depending on the site is pretty annoying and does not make for an enjoyable browsing experience. It also doesn't seem to help the PULSE news app at all.
While I love my Prime, it's pretty sad to see my HP Touchpad absolutely destroying it when comparing the two at web browsing. The Touchpad on an alpha release of CM9 seriously blows the Prime away on the stock browser... Never had a wait message pop up while surfing even heavy pages...it just works. I can't even scroll right away on the Prime while the page is loading. I have to either wait for some elements to load or for the dreaded Wait/Ok to pop up. On my Touchpad or ipad 2..this issue is nonexistent.
I hope that this is the next priority on Asus list. User experience is an important thing...and a laggy browser and screen tearing should never have made it past quality control.
Now, I don't want to be all negative, so I will say that one of my test sites always runs best on the Prime stock browser, and that is:
http://www.pirateslovedaisies.com/
This site won't even finish loading on an ipad 2 (don't know about the 3) and runs slower on the Touchpad with CM9 (and not at all on Web OS) so at least we know the Prime is decent with complex HTML5 in some cases.
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Hey, I'll take a little credit for the Touchpad running well despite inferior hardware. =P
I've been meaning to get CM9 on my Transformer Prime to see how the browser performs there. One thing to note is that I disable the gpu upload path on the Touchpad due to an Adreno driver bug. I'm curious to see if that has any affect on the performance on Transformer Prime. If you'd like to try it for yourself then go to about:debug in the browser. Then go to settings->debug and check Enable CPU Upload Path. This is only a temporary switch and will go away when you close the browser but worth testing as a shot in the dark.
I do generally agree that the stock browser performs better on the Touchpad with its dual core running at 1.2ghz. Tegra 3's cortex-a9 should be about 10-20% faster than the Snapdragon CPU in the Touchpad clock for clock.
So how does browsing on the current version of CM9 preform, anyone who's installed please give your impressions.
Or any other custom roms any better?
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Hey, I'll take a little credit for the Touchpad running well despite inferior hardware. =P
I've been meaning to get CM9 on my Transformer Prime to see how the browser performs there. One thing to note is that I disable the gpu upload path on the Touchpad due to an Adreno driver bug. I'm curious to see if that has any affect on the performance on Transformer Prime. If you'd like to try it for yourself then go to about:debug in the browser. Then go to settings->debug and check Enable CPU Upload Path. This is only a temporary switch and will go away when you close the browser but worth testing as a shot in the dark.
I do generally agree that the stock browser performs better on the Touchpad with its dual core running at 1.2ghz. Tegra 3's cortex-a9 should be about 10-20% faster than the Snapdragon CPU in the Touchpad clock for clock.
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Awesome job on the Touchpad port. It's absolutely amazing as a tech enthusiast to be able to witness the amazing work done by people like yourself.
I went ahead and tried your solution and it's a vast improvement on the stock browser. I've only seen the wait/cancel pop up once and that was stress testing it with 6 tabs open on heavy sites. It has not done it again and it's been about 2 hours playing around with the TFP. What exactly does that setting do? Maybe it can be set to permanent on ICS browser+.
What adblocking app do you all prefer?
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I've tried all major browsers for Android 4(ICS), Chrome, Android default, DolphinHD, Mozilla Firefox (worst look for a browser ever) and all of them have same problem, while browsing the internet, browsers crashes, or like DolphinHD reports popup window sayin you wanna wait or close...
And most common issue is that when you want to scroll, move around the website, it doesn't move instantly but lags... or even don't move at all, waits for few seconds and then starts to move...
I have processor always on mid-level, although have tried Performance as best/faster option but always the same.
Internet connection is fast and Wi-Fi signal is perfect.
Does anyone else have this problem?
I would say that everyone has had this problem at one time or another. Please see this thread which is usually on the first page but has worked its way down a bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597615
Check out that link. Many people have this problem. Some people have had luck with an app called browser2ram.
From my experience, the stock browser is garage. DolphinHD works well for me.
This is one of the areas that my ipad blows my TFP out of the water.
The stock browser on the ipad is snappy and smooth. Just no flash. Can't have everything I guess.
Clarification. The stock browser is garbage on the Prime because the Prime itself is garbage. Stock browser has been perfectly smooth and stable on my Galaxy Nexus since it launched.
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Clarification. The stock browser is garbage on the Prime because the Prime itself is garbage. Stock browser has been perfectly smooth and stable on my Galaxy Nexus since it launched.
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Further (dissenting) clarification - stock browser can be smooth and stable. It is on my ATP. I prefer Dolphin, though, 'cos of the way the top address bar disappears when scrolling icreasing page space.
Ever since Honeycomb, the absolute biggest problem I've had with this tablet is the browser. It doesn't freaking stay open. No matter what browser I use, no matter if I'm running Honeycomb, ICS or Jellybean, the browser always crashes. And it's not a typical FC either; It just closes right back to Launcher.
I've been hearing that it's caused by some null pointer exception in JavaScript; But you mean to tell me between Android 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 4.0 - 4.0.4 and 4.1, 4.1.1, that this issue STILL isn't resolved? Not to mention, it only happens on tablets (Tegra 2 issue? Xoom has the same issue).
For me, it most notably happens when I'm browsing a Twitter page. In the past minute alone, I've had browser crash on my SIX times trying to load a page on Twitter. Let's make that 7 now.
So what the hell really causes this, and why won't it go away? My Sensation and myTouch 4G can browse just fine, and this temporary Galaxy S III works perfectly too, so what's with the tablet?
EDIT: Disabled JavaScript and set plugins to ondemand. Same damn result.
I've used the stock browser, Dolphin, Chrome, and Skyfire and none of them have ever crashed on me. Ever. Sounds like there is either something defective about your device perhaps your internet connection. A factory reset might help, as might going into applications, finding the Google framework and clearing data. Do the same for your browsers as well.
That's funny, I've noticed just the same thing. Browsers work terribly on this tablet.
With me, they only do crash sometimes – a lot more than on my HTC phone, though. But using browsers is a real pain, as they all feel kinda buggy, and I don't think it's their fault, since they all show the same "bugs". They're all kinda laggy. I've updated to ICS today and I was crying in emotion for being able to finally download Chrome, as it's the most stable one I've ever used in my phone, but I was disappointed when I noticed it too felt quite laggy. I'd rather go home and turn my Mac on than to struggle with web browsing on this tablet, honestly. I've tried many browsers –*stock, Dolphin, Boat, that other one with green icon, and also Skyfire or something.
If anyone has a better thing, or a solution, or anything, I bet there are many desperate people that would die to hear it.
(I know I sound more dramatic than I should, but let's face it, web browsing sucks in this device.)
I've never had any problem web browsing on my Tab. None. I'm not rooted, maybe that's why, or maybe it has to do with the sites you visit. Dunno.
On my tab with HC 3.2, the stock browser would also just disappear to the home screen, but not all that often.
I flashed to ICS, and the stock browser got a bit quirky. The address bar would no longer hide when I scrolled down
on a web page. Would stutter as if it was trying to hide but wouldn't.
Installed Dolphin and it worked fine.
I went back to HC 3.2 (had some other issues besides the browser) and so far the stock browser is working fine.
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On my tab with HC 3.2, the stock browser would also just disappear to the home screen, but not all that often.
I flashed to ICS, and the stock browser got a bit quirky. The address bar would no longer hide when I scrolled down
on a web page. Would stutter as if it was trying to hide but wouldn't.
Installed Dolphin and it worked fine.
I went back to HC 3.2 (had some other issues besides the browser) and so far the stock browser is working fine.
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Dolphin does the same thing though, just a lot less frequently. Motorola Xoom users in a thread from a year ago reported this same problem (in a filled up 14 page thread), and several of users report the same exact issue. I'm gonna poll some more Tegra 2 sections and see if they suffer from the same thing but it looks like this is just another issue with this ****ty SoC, like the portrait mode lag.
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I've used the stock browser, Dolphin, Chrome, and Skyfire and none of them have ever crashed on me. Ever. Sounds like there is either something defective about your device perhaps your internet connection. A factory reset might help, as might going into applications, finding the Google framework and clearing data. Do the same for your browsers as well.
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Not to sound rude but your opinion isn't really credible to me, you're the same one who went crazy when I said this tablet sucked. You have bias written all over you.
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I've never had any problem web browsing on my Tab. None. I'm not rooted, maybe that's why, or maybe it has to do with the sites you visit. Dunno.
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Come on dude, I'd have to be rooted to be running Jellybean. And as everyone else has shown, it does seem to vary by website. Full pages on twitter ALWAYS crash, (they work once in a blue moon). Other times browser crashes when browser feels like it hasn't crashed in a while. I could get through a day perfectly, then bam, crash.
I'm not a dude.
I've never had a problem with any of the browsers I've tried, I think maybe you have a faulty tablet.
I to have the same problems. The browser would even close and reopen with no webpages there.
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I to have the same problems. The browser would even close and reopen with no webpages there.
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did you set the start homepage?
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did you set the start homepage?
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Yes Google.ca. The browser just shut down without a force close notice and opens blank. Plus it becomes non responsive, on pages that have a lot of javascript.
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I to have the same problems. The browser would even close and reopen with no webpages there.
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That specifically happens the second time. On the first crash, I'd relaunch and it would reload my pages, but 99/100 times it would crash seconds afterward. Upon opening it again, i get one tab with the Google homepage.
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Yes Google.ca. The browser just shut down without a force close notice and opens blank. Plus it becomes non responsive, on pages that have a lot of javascript.
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Sounds like JavaScript is the culprit, but it still crashed for me even after I disabled JavaScript
I think it's all about memory management, I cant tell about HC 'cause I barely used it, but JB is still very experimental.
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Not to sound rude but your opinion isn't really credible to me, you're the same one who went crazy when I said this tablet sucked. You have bias written all over you.
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I'm biased because I've never had any problems with my browser crashing? Whatever. I also never "went crazy" over anything. All you do is complain and complain. Why not just get an iPad and move on?
I have tried several browsers also, and for me I really only have problems with chrome freezing (not force closing). It seems to be random, but happens more frequently when opening new tabs. However, the stock browser on the same sites seems to work every time. My guess is that it may be due to timeouts on the network connection or possibly memory related. And, it seems to be random... I may go a day without a freeze, then have two back to back freezes. Oh tegra2, why don't you behave?
Hey guys,
It's been almost a week since I flashed the stock ICS and installed Chrome. So far so good, no complaints. I'm really relieved, as I was almost giving up. Give it a try
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Chrome is the way to go. The ability to create an account and sync all relevant browser data to your devices via the cloud - why hasn't anyone thought of this before? So obvious and useful.
I also strongly recommend trying out Boat Browser, which is highly underrated. Smoother and smarter layout than Dolphin and the best alternative to Chrome, IMO.
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Chrome is the way to go. The ability to create an account and sync all relevant browser data to your devices via the cloud - why hasn't anyone thought of this before? So obvious and useful.
I also strongly recommend trying out Boat Browser, which is highly underrated. Smoother and smarter layout than Dolphin and the best alternative to Chrome, IMO.
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Chrome acts really weird on JB. I'm still running pershoot's 8/4 build but I'll be updating and trying out Chrome again. Last time I tried it I would always get a white page while switching tabs, and scrolling was odd. Browser does a much better job but Chrome has too much nice functionality lol
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I have tried several browsers also, and for me I really only have problems with chrome freezing (not force closing). It seems to be random, but happens more frequently when opening new tabs. However, the stock browser on the same sites seems to work every time. My guess is that it may be due to timeouts on the network connection or possibly memory related. And, it seems to be random... I may go a day without a freeze, then have two back to back freezes. Oh tegra2, why don't you behave?
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I doubt it's memory relate, it happens a lot with 1 tab open, and with a full Gig of RAM, browsing should be painless when it comes to memory management, not to mention, but Android's memory management scheme is the most beautiful thing I've seen. Tabs and apps actually know how to stay open, and Android knows what to close. Works a lot better than any tablet I've used, even better than crapple's iPad.