i originally posted this in the general section and then realized it made more sense here. i have an old motion tablet that has a stylus, they cost about 30$, Best part though is you can use it like our s pen(has a button on the side as well) but the cool part is when you flip it over it automatically acts as an eraser
dont know if this has been mentioned before just thought id put it up
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http://youtu.be/T_K57DNBgXc
Thanks for the heads-up. Because you mentioned the compatilbilty I just grabbed the stylus from my Toshiba Portege M400...and it works, eraser and all!
I would have never thought of the darn thing if you hadn't mentioned that it was working with other styli with erasers, thanks!
I have a few of these for my tablet-pc in case I lost one.
BTW, there are a lot of "motion Stylus" in a Google search, which one are you recommending specifically? Link?
Basically, any tablet PC that uses wacom penabled technology will have a stylus that is compatible with the Note. So tablets from Motion Computing, Lenovo's X61/X200 convertibles, Toshiba Portege M convertibles, HP 27xx convertibles, Fujitsu Stylistics, just to name a few all use the same Wacom digitizers.
What that means too is that with enough searching, you could find a very cost effective alternative pen for the Note. I like using my old Motion Computing pen that is shaped like a fountain pen. You can also replace the hard plastic nibs with a felt nib that feels much more like writing on paper.
And before anyone asks, No, you cannot use a stylus from any of the Wacom Intuous or Bamboo art tablets. The technology there is not the same.
I'd really like someone to come up with an app that lets us use the Note as a "small" wacom pad for the PC and Mac. Either by using bluetooth or USB, we could set our phones on our desk and use the digitizer while working in Windows or OSX. That would be amazing.
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Basically, any tablet PC that uses wacom penabled technology will have a stylus that is compatible with the Note. So tablets from Motion Computing, Lenovo's X61/X200 convertibles, Toshiba Portege M convertibles, HP 27xx convertibles, Fujitsu Stylistics, just to name a few all use the same Wacom digitizers.
What that means too is that with enough searching, you could find a very cost effective alternative pen for the Note. I like using my old Motion Computing pen that is shaped like a fountain pen. You can also replace the hard plastic nibs with a felt nib that feels much more like writing on paper.
And before anyone asks, No, you cannot use a stylus from any of the Wacom Intuous or Bamboo art tablets. The technology there is not the same.
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I can confirm my note doesn't work with the styli from my Cintiq or my Wacom 4...
Can you post some links to known working styli, I am looking for one with the weight and styling as a real pen with interchangable nibs.
Cross or Parker styling would be awesome!
Would this one work? http://www.amazon.com/Fujitsu-Digit...UTH2/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1334357063&sr=8-8
Well the X61 Stylus doesn't look bad, anyone know if it has an eraser on it?
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BTW, there are a lot of "motion Stylus" in a Google search, which one are you recommending specifically? Link?
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Just looking at the video, this appears to be the Motion Computing, Inc. L-Series...
($33 on Google Shopper)
Product Type Digital Pen
Manufacturer Part Number 504.500.01
Manufacturer Website Address www.motioncomputing.com
Manufacturer Motion Computing, Inc
Product Name L-Series Digitizer Pen
Brand Name Motion
Compatibility Motion Computing M1200, M130, LE1600, LS800 and M1400 Tablet PC
Can anyone confirm this? It does look like a nice, affordable stylus.
If someone actually orders a stand-alone pen that works, please share the link to it.
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Just looking at the video, this appears to be the Motion Computing, Inc. L-Series...
Product Type Digital Pen
Manufacturer Part Number 504.500.01
Manufacturer Website Address
Manufacturer Motion Computing, Inc
Product Name L-Series Digitizer Pen
Brand Name Motion
Compatibility Motion Computing M1200, M130, LE1600, LS800 and M1400 Tablet PC
Can anyone confirm this? It does look like a nice, affordable stylus.
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Yes, that one will work. I have used that exact stylus on my Note at times since I own a couple of Motion tablets. This is one of the nicer pens I've used since it feels like an actual fountain pen.
Basically any stylus from a Motion Tablet will work in the M, LE, LS, F and J series tablets. The only one that won't work is from their CL900 tablet which uses an N-trig digitizer instead of Wacom.
I have purchased several different stylus pens. So far my favorite is a "Samsung Series 7 Slate Digitizer Pen"
It has a decent pocket clip (along with a tether loop hole), the top works as an eraser in s-memo (needs a bit too much force though), and its black (I have a black note). It's 1/8 inch shorter than the note and bigger around than a pencil.
Also see:
http : //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339268
Sorry to sound negative but why do people do this?
So you carry the already huge phone, and still add a huge pen?
Pls educate me.
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fbauto1 said:
Sorry to sound negative but why do people do this?
So you carry the already huge phone, and still add a huge pen?
Pls educate me.
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Everyone uses tech differently for their own applications and usage scenarios.
In my particular case, I use my Note for a lot of note taking, diagramming, sketching... I don't find the S-pen very comfortable to use for extended periods of time. So having some alternative pen options is a good thing.
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Everyone uses tech differently for their own applications and usage scenarios.
In my particular case, I use my Note for a lot of note taking, diagramming, sketching... I don't find the S-pen very comfortable to use for extended periods of time. So having some alternative pen options is a good thing.
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What is your profession? I mean if you need that much of note taking, diagramming, sketching, wouldn't you benefit more from a tablet?
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What is your profession? I mean if you need that much of note taking, diagramming, sketching, wouldn't you benefit more from a tablet?
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Well, I am an engineer and the Note has replaced my Moleskin that I used to carry around in case I am caught in the hall with "Can you, could you, would you" tasks that usually evaporate from my brain before I can get back to my desk.
I might be biased because I haven't used a mouse in over a decade, I've been on digitizers and for the last 3 have been wacoms, I have used their Intuits 2-4 and a Cintiq, I am used to their accuracy. Trying to do charts, designs or paint with a mouse is like trying to paint with a brick. Once you try one, you'll never go back!
The stylus with the Note is a full wacom stylus not one of those inaccurate crayons that iPads have to use, it has pressure and accuracy so it is like writing with a mechanical pencil right down to erasing like one! It measures pressure so if I write harder, the line gets thicker and darker...and yes, sometimes a picture is worth more than a thousand words!
As for a tablet; this is more portable than a tablet, it is always in my pocket. It is more accurate (as said above) than any tablet (which the best one out there is the iPAD right now, I admit it!) but this is better than an iPAD or iPhone!
I am so used to having a pencil for my Moleskin that a stylus feels quite normal. I am desperately looking for a Wacom Cross but it is a quest that I suspect I will never complete!
Try one for a week, you might never go back! This is a device for business. This is proof that cowardly Microsoft would have had a runaway success if they had released the Courier...this is at least a Moleskin journal to the what could have been the Courier being a Franklin Planner...ah was might have been!
I tried my wacom pin and no luck :-( I have the new wacom pad and pin with multi touch
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What difference would my profession make? I have coworkers who don't like the Note... its really up to the individual.
I can't explain it any better than what HoneyBadger said. The Note is infinitely more useful to me because since it's a cell phone, I carry it around with me all the time. It pushes the edge of pocketability so I'm getting the maximum amount of screen real estate for its portability.
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Well, I am an engineer and the Note has replaced my Moleskin that I used to carry around in case I am caught in the hall with "Can you, could you, would you" tasks that usually evaporate from my brain before I can get back to my desk.
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A Moleskin is a perfect analogy. I used to carry around IPAQs like the hp4700 which is nearly comparable in size.
I've also been scouring ebay for the wacom cross pen but still can't find one.
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Thanks for the heads-up. Because you mentioned the compatilbilty I just grabbed the stylus from my Toshiba Portege M400...and it works, eraser and all!
I would have never thought of the darn thing if you hadn't mentioned that it was working with other styli with erasers, thanks!
I have a few of these for my tablet-pc in case I lost one.
BTW, there are a lot of "motion Stylus" in a Google search, which one are you recommending specifically? Link?
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The Motion Stylus I like is part #504.500.01 which is the stylus shaped like a fountain pen. I don't have enough posts to display a link. I could PM it if you're interested.
The Fujitsu pen you had linked will work as well.
"A Moleskin is a perfect analogy. I used to carry around IPAQs like the hp4700 which is nearly comparable in size."
We must be from the same tribe, I also had a Hx4700 and loved it. This does seem to be its inheritor.
This one?
Not sure if anyone has tried this one but I like it and was wondering if it would work also?
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-PA3316U-3ETC-Digital-Tablet-Pen/dp/B000F6OJHE/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0
I like that it has a clip.
Cant find a thread dedicated to alternate stylus or links to items.
Thanks
Edit: just found a thread... lol but still looking for an answer please....
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Not sure if anyone has tried this one but I like it and was wondering if it would work also?
I like that it has a clip.
Cant find a thread dedicated to alternate stylus or links to items.
Thanks
Edit: just found a thread... lol but still looking for an answer please....
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Yes, that pen should work with the Note. The tablets that are listed in the link, such as the R10 and M200 have Wacom penabled digitizers that are compatible with the Note.
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Just found a new stylus by wacom,bamboo stylus
http://www.wacom.eu/index2.asp?lang=en
Looks promising, should be due out this month. It has the thinnest nib of any stylus on the market, and since I take alot of stylus notes (maple paint and genial) I think this is a must have for me.
I have ordered it from their site, delivery is within 14 days, i am currently using the Boxwave one but like this one because it is the size of an average ball point pen which I would prefer. Hope it works as well as or better than the Boxwave. I went for it because of wacom's reputation.
Can be ordered from here:
http://eu.shop.wacom.eu/Bamboo/Bamboo-Stylus/Bamboo-Stylus?c=9149
ordered a dagi one as the bamboo looks pretty pricey for.....a possibly better designed rubber nub. I use a wacom tablet and know they make some nice stuff, but it doesn't seem to be much different than the cheaper alternatives out there.
The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
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ordered a dagi one ....The dagi should be interesting with the clear tip and red dot so you can see where you're pointing, gonna play around with autodesk sketchbook mobile with it.
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I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
Think will order one, will give a review of it when received, but probably be a few weeks before I get it
does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
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does the wacom pen work with the TF-101? I am confused....
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Its not anything that will work like a wacom tablet + their stylus. This is just a regular capacitive stylus with the nub at the end of it, it just so happens that wacom makes it. Theres no interactivity between the stylus and the device other than the contact of the nib. So yea, it will work fine with the TF101, as will all capactive styli on the market today.
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I am interested to hear how this one works out. I am currently using a targus which works great for me. but want a little more precision. Please update this when you get it....
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It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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It takes a little getting used to to hold it properly and to put the right pressure to get that disc centered, but once you do, the lines start at or very close to the dot, depending on whether i am holding it right. It takes a bit of getting used to, and seems more suitable for drawing and sketching. This is because if you're doing quick swipes i.e. quickly jotting down notes you might not get the disc centered before the tablet registers the touch, causing a fairly inaccurate input.
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That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
I ordered the DAGI too.
I'll also provide feedback once I receive it.
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That doesn't sound too promising. I'm expecting mine to be delivered on Monday. Was going to use it for handwrite note taking
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Well the way I see it when u are handwriting your movements should just follow your first stroke. I tried writing quickly and found the dot to be useless because I'm writing so fast I'm just going by muscle memory instead of trying to aim it
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I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
Discusbass said:
I really cant wait to hear what you guys think of the stylus.
Acually, it all depends on how well the transformer can be used to handwrite/inking for me if im going to buy it or not. =)
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I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
HasC said:
I have received mine today and can give a little feedback on how I am finding the stylus in use.
The stylus itself is really nice to hold in the hand, its weight is just right and it actually feels like you are holding a good quality pen. I expected it to be a little longer, more like the size of a standard size ball point pen however it is just a little bit shorter than this. Having said this, because of the way the weight is distributed on the stylus, it does not feel uncomfortable in the hand and feels very natural.
The end uses a small rubbery nib similar to others available however is considerably smaller when compared to the Boxwave stylus which I also use. This allows for more precision when writing and placement on the tablet.
To test handwriting, I used Tabnotes which is available on the market as a trial. My findings are that the stylus can definitely be used for handwriting and produces very acceptable results, I can confidently say that the writing produced from it resembled my true handwriting (Which is not very tidy by the way but is unique to me).
There is a slight screen sensitivity issue which I think is related to the transformer and not the pen. When you place dots on top of the letter i or strike through letters like t, you need to apply a bit more pressure (not excessive) or it may not register on the tablet.
I used a similar test on my HTC desire HD (DHD) and this is where the quality of the stylus was really highlighted. On the DHD, straight away I noticed that the screen was more responsive, the stylus seemed to glide effortlessly on it's screen with minimal pressure being applied and the results were near enough 100%. I used writepad to test on the DHD which converts your handwriting into typed text and my handwriting was recognised instantly.
Hopefully the upgrade to the honeycomb software will address the sensitivity issue on the transformer which if it does will make the Transformer an ideal platform for handwritten notes. Having said this, in its current form it is still very usable, all it means is that you have to use slightly more pressure on the transformer. I am also assuming that this will work even better on the Ipad2 because the screen sensitivity is no doubt better on it.
I hope this has been helpful, any queries about the stylus, let me know and I will try to help before you take the plunge and buy it.
Edit: I have since writing this, used it on my wifes Ipad2 and as I thought it gave very similar results as the DHD where the results were equal i.e. almost 100% accuracy.
I have also added some pics where I have compared the size of the Boxwave stylus against the Bamboo stylus and another pic showing the size difference of the nibs on each.
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first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
danielcmacedo said:
first of all thanks for the review on the stylus but, please, can you show some video or picture on this handwriting?
Thanks
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Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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That looks awesome, im going to use it for marking up pdf drawings in the field. If i can keep somewhat a straightish line its a winner.
@ Delecron:
You can draw lines using Repligo reader or EZpdf which also allows you to draw in freehand if necessary.
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Sample added to my orginal post to show sample of note using my handwriting and a new note taking app which is soon to be released called "Tabnotes", at the moment a trial is available and the output quality has been reduced until the software is relesed by the developer who is busy finalising the software.
Ps sorry about my bad handwriting, been typing now for years and it has somewhat gone down hill ever since...
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Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
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Looks good- I also recently been using Tabnotes with a Targus which works great. I LOVE Tabnotes- it definitely has some great potential. Any idea when the full version will be released. I am sick of looking at the Trial version smack in the middle of the papers..
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Had an email from the developer a couple of days ago where he apologised for not getting back to an email that I had sent him when he first put the software on the market where I requested from him a few changes such as having the undo and other tools at the top instead of having to select them via the menu option. He has done this and made a few other changes that enhance the software e.g. the little arrows on the bottom corner on the right to position the writing area etc.
Hopefully he should be releasing the full version fairly soon because he also advised that the reason for late response to emails was because he is hard at work improving the software before release which in his estimation is a couple of weeks.
I am checking for software updates daily for Tabnotes as I too can see the potential of this program and it is definitely my first choice for producing hand written notes on my tablet.
Too costly, even though the quality is there I just can't pay that much. Probably going to buy a few of these.
I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
i dont know about samsung s-pen, but htc ST C400 almost dosn't work on prime ^(
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I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
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Of course it doesn't work. Different technologies, the galaxy note uses a wacom digitizer which is pressure sensitive and compactive thus it can us a fine point stylus. While the TFP uses a now standard compactive digitizer it can only use those fat point stylus. But since the TFP's digitizer is made by atmel, Atmel themselves said they were going to release a stylus called maxstylus which is a fine point stylus and is compatible with atmels digitizer.
I was wondering if the "wacom technology" is a software thing or real hardware parts (like on the wacom tablets)
as far as i know the wacom pens send the info to the surface, the surface itself doesn't recognise pressure. If "just" software reads out the capacative infos shouldn't it be possible to get the drivers and drawing software from the note onto the prime?
I'm just thinking out loud here, i have no hard information. but I am very interested, if a port would somehow be possible ^^
Just to address some stuff here...
A Wacom digitizer is a combination of hardware and software technology that exists both in the tablet and the stylus. The sensors in the tablet screens are sensitive to the nibs of digitizer pens.
The Amtel MaxStylus has already been confirmed to not work on the TF201. The chip that is in the TF201 would only support the pen on a 7" screen or smaller.
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
BUYMECAR said:
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
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Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
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Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
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I use a Amazon capacitive, less accuracy but works, Samsung isn't a normal stylus that's why they named it "S Pen"
anyone know if the galaxy note stylus would work on the amaze? or just another phone in general? or do you think its somehow "programmed" or made to work just with the note. was looking at stylus and every one of them are huge lol, like incipios and others. I think it would be cool to use it for some apps.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
http://www.incipio.com/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories.asp go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpo7USR8I8 this is how it works
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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try drawing a image or words or anything in general with the sketchbook and then you tell me. some other apps would be more fun/interesting with a stylus imo. also with grease and what not, when texting its okay or just swiping around but when using apps like angry birds it would be more fun to use a stylus I think.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
(link) go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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That is correct, you can immediately tell it is not a capactive stylus by trying to press the capacitive buttons and not getting a response.
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
Vikingpus said:
This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
stratax said:
look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
stratax said:
what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
mikeschevelle said:
Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
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haha nice!
gypsy214 said:
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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exactly, it would be fun to use with some apps but not everything lol. just like sketchbook or angry birds or draw me. since its hard as hell with your finger
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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well then wouldnt it work on all touch screens then? since all capacitive touch screens respond to static/heat, or does it give off a different type? im confused how samsung made the note lol, its interesting
edit: opps didnt multi-qoute
My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
ph00ny said:
My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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so the note has a special layer made for the stylus? thats cool
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
mikeschevelle said:
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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thats a shame, oh well the screen on this phone really isnt that big any ways. i could see using one on the one x or something. i think the new lg vu also has a custom stylus for it hmm
Just wondering if anyone has tried another stylus with the Pro? I'm thinking of getting the new version of the Bamboo Feel, but haven't heard if it is compatible or not. Are there any thicker styli with erasers, by any chance?
I want to know about this, too
ExtremeRyno said:
Just wondering if anyone has tried another stylus with the Pro? I'm thinking of getting the new version of the Bamboo Feel, but haven't heard if it is compatible or not. Are there any thicker styli with erasers, by any chance?
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Planning to do a lot of drawing on this tab, when the LTE version drops.
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Just wondering if anyone has tried another stylus with the Pro? I'm thinking of getting the new version of the Bamboo Feel, but haven't heard if it is compatible or not. Are there any thicker styli with erasers, by any chance?
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Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2 and it works like a charm. Much better then the twig that comes with the tablet
amazonDOTcom/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus--S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393434446&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+galaxy+s-pen+stylus+pen+with+eraser
hope this helps
-rising
risingdead15 said:
Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2 and it works like a charm. Much better then the twig that comes with the tablet
amazonDOTcom/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus--S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393434446&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+galaxy+s-pen+stylus+pen+with+eraser
hope this helps
-rising
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Can you confirm is this stylus pixel accurate with the Note 12.2? Many times, even though they work, other styluses are off by a few pixels to one side. I'd hate to see someone needing a better pen for serious artwork run into this without knowing about it.
I notice that two of the reviews of that pen list that problem with Galaxy tablets.
Would really appreciate if you could check and let us know for certain.
I checked and the penabled stylus with my old LE1600 Tablet PC works with the 12.2, but of course it has the dreaded 4 pixel shift problem. It's such a rotten shame, because in every way it's a fantastic stylus and feels so comfortable in the hand (and there are tons of penabled Tablet PC styluses that are cheap). It makes the 12.2 feel like a really good drawing tablet compared to so-so with the s-Pen, but that pixel shift means it can't really be used for accurate drawing. It's too much of a difference from where you're pressing and where the line gets drawn to be trusted for serious drawing, but it'll pass for note-taking.
Anyway, please check this out if you can.
risingdead15 said:
Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2
-rising
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Sweet! That is exactly what I was looking for. Perfect.
Thanks, rd15.
zaptoons said:
Can you confirm is this stylus pixel accurate with the Note 12.2? Many times, even though they work, other styluses are off by a few pixels to one side. I'd hate to see someone needing a better pen for serious artwork run into this without knowing about it.
I notice that two of the reviews of that pen list that problem with Galaxy tablets.
Would really appreciate if you could check and let us know for certain.
I checked and the penabled stylus with my old LE1600 Tablet PC works with the 12.2, but of course it has the dreaded 4 pixel shift problem. It's such a rotten shame, because in every way it's a fantastic stylus and feels so comfortable in the hand (and there are tons of penabled Tablet PC styluses that are cheap). It makes the 12.2 feel like a really good drawing tablet compared to so-so with the s-Pen, but that pixel shift means it can't really be used for accurate drawing. It's too much of a difference from where you're pressing and where the line gets drawn to be trusted for serious drawing, but it'll pass for note-taking.
Anyway, please check this out if you can.
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Hi
I just recieved another one and they both work perfectly for me, the marks are made exactly on the tip. I use this tablet mostly for taking notes in the class and sometimes drawing anatomy structures (med student). Absolutely love it
This is the exact one i got -
paydealsDOTcom/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Pen-Stylus-Eraser/dp/B009QW3SGQ
Hope this helps
rising
zaptoons said:
Can you confirm is this stylus pixel accurate with the Note 12.2? Many times, even though they work, other styluses are off by a few pixels to one side. I'd hate to see someone needing a better pen for serious artwork run into this without knowing about it.
I notice that two of the reviews of that pen list that problem with Galaxy tablets.
Would really appreciate if you could check and let us know for certain.
I checked and the penabled stylus with my old LE1600 Tablet PC works with the 12.2, but of course it has the dreaded 4 pixel shift problem. It's such a rotten shame, because in every way it's a fantastic stylus and feels so comfortable in the hand (and there are tons of penabled Tablet PC styluses that are cheap). It makes the 12.2 feel like a really good drawing tablet compared to so-so with the s-Pen, but that pixel shift means it can't really be used for accurate drawing. It's too much of a difference from where you're pressing and where the line gets drawn to be trusted for serious drawing, but it'll pass for note-taking.
Anyway, please check this out if you can.
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+1 on this. Just what I want to know.
Anyone who can advise on stylus accuracy, for those of us who haven't picked up a Pro 12.2, thank you in advance for all specifics you can share!
Hi Guys,
So brief update on the 8pi pen, I have attached some pics that should clarify that the pen works the same as the stock pen. I have had no issues with writing, drawing or otherwise with either pens.
Hope this answers your questions
Rising
Writing
dropboxDOTcom/s/ft2z3csp44asfzr/SPEN-TEST.png
Stock Pen
dropboxDOTcom/s/gn7eagcyxcylrki/SPen-Stock.JPG
Samsung 8pi Pen I mentioned in my previous post
dropboxDOTcom/s/g6rfaekxif8xj2r/SPen%208pi.JPG
risingdead15 said:
Hi Guys,
So brief update on the 8pi pen, I have attached some pics that should clarify that the pen works the same as the stock pen. I have had no issues with writing, drawing or otherwise with either pens.
Hope this answers your questions
Rising
Writing
dropboxDOTcom/s/ft2z3csp44asfzr/SPEN-TEST.png
Stock Pen
dropboxDOTcom/s/gn7eagcyxcylrki/SPen-Stock.JPG
Samsung 8pi Pen I mentioned in my previous post
dropboxDOTcom/s/g6rfaekxif8xj2r/SPen%208pi.JPG
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Thank you for that! Good to know.
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Samsung 8pi Pen I mentioned in my previous post
dropboxDOTcom/s/g6rfaekxif8xj2r/SPen%208pi.JPG
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I've ordered one, now. Thanks for the info on this. Now, I just need to get a tablet....Hmm....
Change tips?
risingdead15 said:
Hi,
I have been using the 8pi stylus with my note 12.2 and it works like a charm. Much better then the twig that comes with the tablet
amazonDOTcom/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus--S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393434446&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+galaxy+s-pen+stylus+pen+with+eraser
hope this helps
-rising
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Hello,
Could you please tell me if you can replace the hard white tips with softer black rubber(ish) tips with the 8pi? I marked up my o.g. 10.1 with hard plastic ones(I have a heavy hand when drawing) & i don't wanna have that happen on this tab. Thank you advance.
loQ on said:
Hello,
Could you please tell me if you can replace the hard white tips with softer black rubber(ish) tips with the 8pi? I marked up my o.g. 10.1 with hard plastic ones(I have a heavy hand when drawing) & i don't wanna have that happen on this tab. Thank you advance.
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The pen comes with both hard and soft tips, you can replace them, I personally use hard tips on if I have a screen protector on, otherwise soft tips work nicely
appreciate the response
risingdead15 said:
The pen comes with both hard and soft tips, you can replace them, I personally use hard tips on if I have a screen protector on, otherwise soft tips work nicely
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That's good news for me. So I just ordered it. & I appreciate the screensaver tip but I can't bring myself to cover this delicious feeling glass >.<
ExtremeRyno said:
I've ordered one, now. Thanks for the info on this. Now, I just need to get a tablet....Hmm....
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ExtremeRyno, please post your results with the stylus here. And any drawings you care to share. I'm waiting for the ATT LTE version to come out, so I'm curious about what drawing apps you use, how the accuracy feels to you &c.
(On the iPad, I've gotten a lot of good stuff with Sketchbook Pro—but the fat-tipped styluses bite!)
JSandel said:
ExtremeRyno, please post your results with the stylus here. And any drawings you care to share. I'm waiting for the ATT LTE version to come out, so I'm curious about what drawing apps you use, how the accuracy feels to you &c.
(On the iPad, I've gotten a lot of good stuff with Sketchbook Pro—but the fat-tipped styluses bite!)
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Very satisfied with my purchase. The size is just about the same as a regular ink pen. I'm thinking of putting on a rubber grip on it..just gotta figure out what to do about the button. I guess mark the location with a paint drop.
Pics:
http://imgur.com/a/fpIb8
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Very satisfied with my purchase. The size is just about the same as a regular ink pen.
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That's great —I'm sold. Thank you for posting. Love the artwork!
I ordered the following, thought it was the same, but it has the offset :-/ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B5ZQX0A/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Buji said:
I ordered the following, thought it was the same, but it has the offset :-/ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B5ZQX0A/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Me too. I thought based on previous comments that this would be perfect.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Genuine-Wacom-Stylus-ET-S200EBEG/dp/B009PJN1U8/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
This is the exact one I got. I'm 100% satisfied, and I'm not experiencing any offset. Have you tried changing out the nib for one that came with your original S-Pen? Not sure if that would make a difference, but worth a shot, I guess.
Bamboo is ok, hard tip. The Samsung be pen works great. Full thick pen. Pricey but nice
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I just bought a note 12.2 but I want a stylus pen with eraser functionality so that I can avoid manually toggling the eraser. I know that it works on Samsung apps, sketchbook and other big name software. However, Amazon's question and answer does not make it very clear if it works on smaller 3rd party apps like Lecture Notes.
Can someone test their stylus eraser and see if it works on Lecture Notes (free trial)?
Here is the stylus:
http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Genuin...d=1449214660&sr=8-1&keywords=stylus+note+12.2
Here is the specific app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotestrial&hl=en
Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
zipsomic said:
Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
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Thanks. I think the programmer needs to program it with the API and the feature is not system wide. I'm very happy about this.
btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
zipsomic said:
btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
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So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
poetryrocksalot said:
So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
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Yes, I think it's qicker anyway
This pen might work with squid.
Such a shame that one note is so crap on Android.
DarkManX4lf said:
This pen might work with squid.
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I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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There are no reviews on the Lenova pen, so I didn't buy it.
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And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
The NotePro (All versions) have a sensitivity of 1024 levels. The only part of the pens that matter in terms of sensitivity is what they support. (A pen that supports, say, 500 levels, will never offer 1024.)
All Wacom pens support at least 1024 levels.
The Lenovo pen also supports 1024 levels.
Both pens have the exact same sensitivity level on this device.
Obviously the Wacom pen is designed specifically for Note devices as both the pen and the sensors are made by Wacom, whereas the Lenovo is not. I can't say if that affects usability, as I haven't tried the Lenovo pen.
Mind you, I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
I've been a Wacom (Intuos and Cintiq) user for years, So yea, I'm a bit biased. :laugh: I stuck with the brand I know. (Wacom is the professional brand for digital artists, from amateurs to Hollywood).
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You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
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Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
zipsomic said:
Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
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Well, I'm not really an expert.:laugh: I've just got a bit of experience with wacom's tech, and an unhealthy habit of wanting to know how everything works. :laugh:
That's actually ridiculously simple once you realize it. There is a difference in the various nibs (the tips), which affect the result when drawing, as well as 'paper'resistance on the screen. I don't know precisely which nibs came with which pen, but they vary in size, material and effect. I think the Bamboo Smart came with two different types of tips, which can be swapped. (That's what that silly piece of metal that looks like a weird pincer is for.)
Also, the driver on the tab is configured for Wacom pens. As such, the result with a non-Wacom pen can be a little lacking in finesse. Then again, thicker isn't always an advantage when you're sketching, but for non-precise tasks a more 'solid' line might be more preferable.
got it
Thanks for useful information, ShadowLea
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I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
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Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
marcio.mg said:
Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
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I've got the CS-400. There is only one version of the Carbon, as far as I'm aware.
It did have an offset at the beginning, had to recalibrate it. Mind you, it will always have an offset when held at an angle. The sensors work in a straight line. 1mm is fairly normal at 45º. (Also, that way you can see what you're drawing.)
The guide as to how to do that is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
(I'll quote it here)
ShadowLea said:
There's two ways to go about this. The 'Viking equivalent of try this first' and the 'If that doesn't work, let's try the more technical one.'
Firstly, try giving it a good solid whack on the edge of a table. As ridiculous as that sounds (and makes you look), this does usually have an effect. Often, the nib isn't properly inserted, or sits at just the wrong angle. Brute force tends to work.
If that doesn't help, it's time for the proper technical solution. This works on pretty much any magnetic stylus with a button, including the Spen.
Requirements:
- A small flat screwdriver
- A non-cluttered room (preferably without carpets)
- The pen
- The tablet
Step 1) Carefully use the small screwdriver to pop off the button. You should be able to insert it along the side in the middle and then slide it towards the back end (where the fastener isunder the button).
The thing jumps, so be careful! (Hence the clean, carpet free room. I had to use a vacuum cleaner to recover mine once..) If the screwdriver doesn't work, try a needle or a razor (mind your fingers!).
Step 2) With the lid off, you'll see two dials.
The one closest to the tip of the pen adjusts the sensitivity.
The one closest to the cap adjusts the offset. This is the one we'll need to fix this issue. (Might as well tweak both whilst you're at it)
Carefully make tiny adjustments (and I mean really tiny) to these dials. Test it on the tab every time, you don't need to re-attach the button to test it. They go both ways, so play with it 'till you're satisfied with the result. (On my previous one I had to turn it a whole 85º, on my new one only 5º.)
Step 3) If you're happy with the result, click the button back on. It only fits one way, and needs to be inserted very much like a battery: one side first. (The side pointing towards the cap)
That's it
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I have that samsung spen with eraser and use it every day with LectureNotes. The eraser and side button both work beautifully with LectureNotes. Actually, LN allows you to customize the behavior of the eraser and the side button independently.
The stock s-pen has pretty decent eraser functionality via the button on the side in some apps like Squid. Squid really is fantastic -- I've used it for class notes for more than a year and a half now.
I have this stylus and the eraser works on Squid and LectureNotes