[Solved] The capacitive home, back & menu button issue - Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go

Many of you are having the problem where the back, home or menu buttons are insensitive and don't respond very well.
After some tests and confirmations, it is believed to be what is called 'hard capacitive buttons'.
What does hard capacitive mean? It means you have to press with a bit more force like the galaxy nexus.
Reason for hard capacitive buttons?
To prevent accidental pressing of them, thus requiring to use a bit more pressure. I makes sense now doesn't it?
please feel free to test and confirm for your own confirmations, hope this closes all the cases regarding the capacitive buttons issue!

royalbloodvi said:
Many of you are having the problem where the back, home or menu buttons are insensitive and don't respond very well.
After some tests and confirmations, it is believed to be what is called 'hard capacitive buttons'.
What does hard capacitive mean? It means you have to press with a bit more force like the galaxy nexus.
Reason for hard capacitive buttons?
To prevent accidental pressing of them, thus requiring to use a bit more pressure. I makes sense now doesn't it?
please feel free to test and confirm for your own confirmations, hope this closes all the cases regarding the capacitive buttons issue!
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true story!

royalbloodvi said:
Many of you are having the problem where the back, home or menu buttons are insensitive and don't respond very well.
After some tests and confirmations, it is believed to be what is called 'hard capacitive buttons'.
What does hard capacitive mean? It means you have to press with a bit more force like the galaxy nexus.
Reason for hard capacitive buttons?
To prevent accidental pressing of them, thus requiring to use a bit more pressure. I makes sense now doesn't it?
please feel free to test and confirm for your own confirmations, hope this closes all the cases regarding the capacitive buttons issue!
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Well, just to let you know people will have their issues regarding this problems forever. I have gone though two Xperia S and quality of buttons differ in one another. But either way never had to push too hard to activate it. Has been pretty good but this clarify things for people with questions again.
Thanks

I tried this method and i still couldn't get it all the time. The sliding worked better but why should it be that way? As an SE fan from W910, i wanted to love it but couldn't mainly for this reason.
I think overtime time people can get it right but SE did screw it up. Just like iPhone antenna issue there is way to not let it bother you. But there are just too many design flaws with this phone for my liking.
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sliding my finger over the capacitive buttons works 100% of the time, so I prefer this method.
also this doesn't require a "hard press" I can just lightly slide my finger and it will register.

ssj_jaypee said:
sliding my finger over the capacitive buttons works 100% of the time, so I prefer this method.
also this doesn't require a "hard press" I can just lightly slide my finger and it will register.
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+1 that

Nimche said:
Well, just to let you know people will have their issues regarding this problems forever. I have gone though two Xperia S and quality of buttons differ in one another. But either way never had to push too hard to activate it. Has been pretty good but this clarify things for people with questions again.
Thanks
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Noticed the difference myself going through the second Xperia experience...
Both phones are a bit different but the pressure used is the same.
Only the size of the capacitive buttons is different :-/
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I wasn't aware there was a pressure activation?
I always swipe from the transparent bar up, works 100% no "pressure" or unresponsive problems at all. I use it just as swiping in an app
I don't consider this an -issue- its more of a learning curve .

I'm not convinced by this. I can activate them with an extremely light touch (I just tested this) but only if I do a slight swiping action.
Even a touch as light as I can use on the screen works on the buttons as long as I am in the right place.
A hard press probably just spreads your finger pad out more so you get the right area more easily

Within minutes of getting my XS I naturally started using the slide technique. Can't see an issue with the buttons myself. I get the occasional miss but nothing that causes an issue.

agree with slide on them . It works perfectly
The totally active space is above the dots ,between screen and dots .

I'm with slide since I got the phone. Works better.

I've had my XS for 2 weeks now and from day 1 I didn't have problems using the capacitive buttons. I miss occasionally but that happened also with other devices.

no the buttons has an issue,when you press softly it work sometimes sometimes dont same swiping and pressing hard so no one please try to fool your self here it just doesnt work like others do

cihanleanne said:
no the buttons has an issue,when you press softly it work sometimes sometimes dont same swiping and pressing hard so no one please try to fool your self here it just doesnt work like others do
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Ok you are right,you feel happy now
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gm007 said:
Ok you are right,you feel happy now
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its not about hapiness its about paying something and not working properly. we have to find a workaround device paying a lot money

cihanleanne said:
its not about hapiness its about paying something and not working properly. we have to find a workaround device paying a lot money
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Believe me if you use your phone for 2-3 weeks you will get used to it.
Now I don't miss any button.
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Hy, the 3 sensitives buttons don't work if you slide your finger down ( screen to led bar ), but if you slide up ( led bar to the screen ) he respond immediatly.
If you come by the screen, you did to go up when you arrived on the level of the sensitives buttons.
If you just slide down buttons stay inactive.
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My first day was annoying and frustrating, but
after 24-48 hours of use I never missed a hit again.
You get used to it pretty fast once you find the "g spot" and your brain learns to automate the task.
(hint: side dots upper medial, home dot slighty up)
Now it's piece of cake

3Shirts said:
I'm not convinced by this. I can activate them with an extremely light touch (I just tested this) but only if I do a slight swiping action.
Even a touch as light as I can use on the screen works on the buttons as long as I am in the right place.
A hard press probably just spreads your finger pad out more so you get the right area more easily
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I agree, i'm not sure about the pressure difference it might be possible, but i can also activate it with a light touch. And hard pressing results in touching with more surface, just like you said.
It also looks like the sensitive part is just a little above the dot.
The buttons do not always work, and we should not have to swipe.
Did Sony mention these buttons somewhere? manybe in the manual? lol
Maybe it is a problem just like the yellow screen is, but no one knows

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overly sensitive capacitive buttons?

the capacitive buttons on my 3d are ridiculously sensitive! i dont even have to make contact with the glass to make them register as a button press, hovering over them is enough....
its getting rather annoying and im hoping the screen protector i ordered would help it a bit but does anyone else have the same problem?
Nope but I have a zagg on mine... Sometimes it seems I have to press the home button more firmly than others tho
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Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
vinterchaos said:
Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
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it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
thesparky007 said:
it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
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Yeah. Pretty freaking sensitive for me as well. Can be annoying sometimes.
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i noticed it too
Also noticed that sometimes when i press, it senses my finger a bit below where i touch. but maybe it's just a problem i have with my fingers :/
I have the same problem with mine too, and i have a ZAGG on it. It annoys the crap outta me. But what can we do?
even with the screen protector, i still find that hovering will prompt a keystroke. another qualm that i have with the phone is the placement of the sensitive power button up top.. being left handed, i seem to be finding it often by mistake.
That's the one thing I never liked about HTC phones, they love to use capacitive buttons. I prefer a mechanical one that can't so easily accidently be touched.
My capacitive buttons are also very sensitive (just like my power button ). Sometimes it is annoying when I bump/hover over the home key in the middle of what I'm doing. Over all, I think the entire screen is more sensitive than the Evo OG, because there have been a number of times when my screen has registered a touch when I thought I was only hovering.
Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
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Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
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Thats what i was wondering too.
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Thats what i was wondering too.
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i hope so too because this hinders regular use quite a bit
The capacitive buttons are overly sensitive with my screen protector on, too. It seems like the buttons have too much juice running to them altogether. (Being too bright and too sensitive.)
On another note; Everyone always talks about their over-sensitive power button, but mine is completely the opposite and hard to find and push sometimes. Especially in the otterbox commuter case, which I'd have to recommend if you have that issue.

Capacitive button solution - ICS upgrade?

Good day. It seems that alot are having problems with capacitive buttons not being responsive and on almost every xperia s review, they always mention having difficulty in having the buttons register. But, they say also that when ICS upgrade comes, those buttons would be useless anymore and wouldnt be used. What do they mean? In what way, will the ICS upgrade affect the useability of those buttons?
ARC X12 said:
Good day. It seems that alot are having problems with capacitive buttons not being responsive and on almost every xperia s review, they always mention having difficulty in having the buttons register. But, they say also that when ICS upgrade comes, those buttons would be useless anymore and wouldnt be used. What do they mean? In what way, will the ICS upgrade affect the useability of those buttons?
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ICS has 3 onscreen buttons (home, back, menu), but i guess ppl will not like its on their phone!
keunhuvac said:
ICS has 3 onscreen buttons (home, back, menu), but i guess ppl will not like its on their phone!
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As we have the capacitive buttons they could still utilise them couldn't they? At least that way we don't lose screen to the onscreen buttons like the GNEX has!
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ianford10 said:
As we have the capacitive buttons they could still utilise them couldn't they? At least that way we don't lose screen to the onscreen buttons like the GNEX has!
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I would suspect that the capacitive buttons will continue to be used much like the nexus s. has Sony indicated otherwise?
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More likely Sony won't utilise the "on screen" ics buttons and simply remove those in favor of the extra screen realestate. The physical buttons are in the exact same position as the ics on screen buttons so no point in having 2 of each button to do the same job.
I don't have much of an issue now with the buttons, practice makes perfect.
Try sliding up the buttons instead.
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krohnjw said:
I would suspect that the capacitive buttons will continue to be used much like the nexus s. has Sony indicated otherwise?
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As far as I'm aware no they haven't and to be honest I would prefer the capacitive buttons
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Similar to somemadcaaant, here's what I realised. Almost 80% of the time I just need the back button.
I am sliding my finger around the button area from right to left. This action feels natural for going back.
For home button, I make a small circle in the middle. I so seldom use the menu button it doesn't bother me.
I just hope that there would be an option to use the on screen buttons or the capacitive buttons when ICS is implemented. I just cant imagine why a big company like sony could have mislook this possible problem with the capacitive buttons.
Yeah, after having capacitive buttons on the original Nexus, and a few other devices they are all the same.
Sometimes a little inconsistent, and you just need to adapt to them. the S is no different.
Took me a day or so to get used to it.
Hopefully they just integrate the buttons into the ICS rom and don't bother with the screen ones.
Really, I don't get this whole "unresponsive capacitive button" thing.
They are responsive, it just takes getting used to. You find the sensor, you touch it, it works, it is responsive, but the dots just confuse people. You can't hit the buttons well because of big fingers or well you keep thinking its the silver dots? Use the swipe method.
They respond just fine it's not a matter of them needing to be more sensitive or larger, it's a matter of getting used to it. Part of the joys of having a new shiny device, learning how to use it .
And if ICS brings the onscreen buttons, I will disable it, because I can use my "unresponsive capacitive buttons" perfectly fine, and don't want to lose screen space.
i really hope they remove the on screen buttons or atleast have an option to tun them off, it will just look out of place having two sets of the same fuctioning buttons.
shmoejoe said:
Really, I don't get this whole "unresponsive capacitive button" thing.
They are responsive, it just takes getting used to. You find the sensor, you touch it, it works, it is responsive, but the dots just confuse people. You can't hit the buttons well because of big fingers or well you keep thinking its the silver dots? Use the swipe method.
They respond just fine it's not a matter of them needing to be more sensitive or larger, it's a matter of getting used to it. Part of the joys of having a new shiny device, learning how to use it .
And if ICS brings the onscreen buttons, I will disable it, because I can use my "unresponsive capacitive buttons" perfectly fine, and don't want to lose screen space.
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I totally agree, since I had this Phone i never experienced unresponsive buttons or something, and its my first phone with capacitive buttons.
I simply swipe upwards. It's not a huge movement, just a fraction of an inch.
Took about a day to get used to it, quite like it now.
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Hope no! That would take realstate of the screen. I got used to the tiny buttons ....
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shmoejoe said:
Really, I don't get this whole "unresponsive capacitive button" thing.
They are responsive, it just takes getting used to. You find the sensor, you touch it, it works, it is responsive, but the dots just confuse people. You can't hit the buttons well because of big fingers or well you keep thinking its the silver dots? Use the swipe method.
They respond just fine it's not a matter of them needing to be more sensitive or larger, it's a matter of getting used to it. Part of the joys of having a new shiny device, learning how to use it .
And if ICS brings the onscreen buttons, I will disable it, because I can use my "unresponsive capacitive buttons" perfectly fine, and don't want to lose screen space.
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Razje said:
I totally agree, since I had this Phone i never experienced unresponsive buttons or something, and its my first phone with capacitive buttons.
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out of interest, do either of you use a screen protector?
I have the one that came factory installed, and yes it is actually a screen protector, it's clearly visible from closeup.
Phone comes with a screen protector already on.
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Amazing hint
Sliding the buttons instead touching really gaves a warm nd better feeling as well as all the issues people arr having with touch buttons are gone!!!
I think sony made it sliding only but didn't mentioned anywhere!
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Another way to get more responsitive buttons is to remove the screen protector from the buttons area... they get a little bit more responsive...
I had a Nexus S and when CM9 (ICS) came to that it just didn't have the on-screen buttons. I'm 99% sure that'll be the case on this phone.

Navigation bar vs Capacitive... which do you prefer?

At first I thought having the Navigation controls in AOKP enabled was pretty damn cool but I have to admit, even at their smallest height (dp), I still prefer to have the capacitive. I simply hate losing ANY screen real estate. Just wanted to get some other opinions. I know there's a way to get them to temporarily hide but it didn't seem to work as flawlessly as I was hoping...
I still use the cap buttons - although I turned off the backlighting.
Capacitive. It doesn't make sense to use on screen buttons unless the phone was designed for it.
I switch back and forth because I like the one-click option for my recent apps with the on-screen buttons as opposed to the long-press with the capacitive ones. But I do like the capacitive buttons more because they don't take up any screen real estate.
When I get a phone that doesn't trade screen area for functionality that's already present, (or close enough) I'll let you know. Until then, I'll be rockin' my capacitive buttons.
I prefer capacitive. It seems redundant having two sets of buttons that do the same thing right on top of each other!
Cap buttons. The nav bar takes away screen real state.
mgd76 said:
When I get a phone that doesn't trade screen area for functionality that's already present, (or close enough) I'll let you know. Until then, I'll be rockin' my capacitive buttons.
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Couldnt agree more. I tried the navigation buttons and was really surprised how much it bothered me that I was missing that little bit of room on the screen.
cap button , no use wasting screen real estate , have never used them . Even when cap buttons were not working i was using LMT
mgd76 said:
When I get a phone that doesn't trade screen area for functionality that's already present, (or close enough) I'll let you know. Until then, I'll be rockin' my capacitive buttons.
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I'll happily use on screen buttons when the bezel is smaller than capacitive buttons.
Look at the ONE X (why they didn't just do 4 buttons and have menu I don't get), its the same physical size as the galaxy nexus, with a bigger screen, and still fit buttons in the bezel. So you actually use the whole screen, until HTC's shortsightenedness of no menu key catches up. Not to derail the thread, but I think that is a huge oversight. To have a foot in both camps: capacituve and on screen buttons.
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Cap buttons all the way but from what i can tell from supposed looks of sgs 3 most phones will probably do away with cap buttons once ics is the norm on all new phones
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I like em both.. prefer cap buttons because of the native search button.. almost a must for me. Nice shortcut!
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cap most definitely. I really dont like that nav bar at all.
I hate the cap buttons but losing screen space is worse to me right now
Cap buttons. The way it was designed.
Looking over your shoulder...
Cap.
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Glad I didn't create a poll... haha
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Seriously, there was a thread not long ago about disabling the cap buttons completely so you could use the on-screen buttons...I read that thread and was like, wtf? Why would you waste screen space on buttons when the phone already has them in hardware? Doesn't make any sense to me, but to each his own I guess.
Appearance wise the nav bar is much nicer. Usefulness is also greater with the nav bar because you can customize it. But because we already have cap buttons it just feels like a waste. At the end of the day i'd probably prefer a gnexus setup
Capacitive...unless they were not there at all.

Verizon couldn't be dumber.

Anyone else see this?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/03/no-verizon-the-droid-dna-doesnt-have-on-screen-navigation-keys/
I wish my Note 2 had two home keys and got .49Mbps. Fail.
Did not like them anyway. LOL
Lmao that's hilarious
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Am I the only one who prefers hardware buttons? I see on-screen buttons as a waste of screen space. I mean, I suppose you could make a phone slightly shorter (or the screen longer for non-DNA phones) but I think they use that extra space to pack in more hardware / a bigger battery. If for example the DNA has software keys and the phone was that much shorter (so the screen was just below the bottom of the phone) not only would the phone have to be thicker, but imagine how uncomfortable it would be to hold the phone one handed and reach those keys.
Soft keys provide much more utility because they can be modified and changed on the fly.
Not so for hardware keys. The JB keyboard is a perfect example. The 'back' soft key on the Gnex changes to a downward arrow to hide the keyboard when in use. If it stayed as a back softkey, it would give an impression that it leaves the app or goes to a previous screen. When the keys aren't needed, such as in a video, they can be hidden.
Soft keys are the future, IMO.
Hmm well most companies, even big name corporations, do make mistakes quite often. The graphics designer and the inspector of the ad must take the fault, not Verizon itself.
But eh I laughed at it
Well IF HTC ever decides to go all software keys, I'm just going to use GMD Gesture app to assign home back search and menu as gestures and remove software keys because I don't want to loose screen real-estate.
I would worry more about legacy menus chewing up your screen real estate.
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Soft keys provide much more utility because they can be modified and changed on the fly.
Not so for hardware keys. The JB keyboard is a perfect example. The 'back' soft key on the Gnex changes to a downward arrow to hide the keyboard when in use. If it stayed as a back softkey, it would give an impression that it leaves the app or goes to a previous screen. When the keys aren't needed, such as in a video, they can be hidden.
Soft keys are the future, IMO.
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couldnt agree with you more.
adrynalyne said:
Soft keys provide much more utility because they can be modified and changed on the fly.
Not so for hardware keys. The JB keyboard is a perfect example. The 'back' soft key on the Gnex changes to a downward arrow to hide the keyboard when in use. If it stayed as a back softkey, it would give an impression that it leaves the app or goes to a previous screen. When the keys aren't needed, such as in a video, they can be hidden.
Soft keys are the future, IMO.
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Back has always done this. I don't think that's confusing. And you can still customize hardware touch buttons, besides adding more of course. You can still make them do things with double taps and holding them. There always will be some sort of chin too for grip while held landscape, so they might as well be there to give you more screen space.
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Back has always done this. I don't think that's confusing. And you can still customize hardware touch buttons, besides adding more of course. You can still make them do things with double taps and holding them. There always will be some sort of chin too for grip while held landscape, so they might as well be there to give you more screen space.
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Back has always done what? Turned into a completely different icon to convey its intentions? I don't think so....unless on Nexus devices and JB.
You may be able to change hard key functions, but you cannot clarify their function by changing the icon/image. That is the problem.
Hard key function changes may be fine for us geeks, but the general public needs visual cues as well. They aren't going to understand that the button with a house on it does anything but go home. I'd wager a lot of them don't know about long presses either but that is a whole different can of worms again solvable by soft keys,
You could have soft keys change to a DIFFERENT image on long press, so to convey its function as well. Good luck doing that on capacitive keys.
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Back has always done what? Turned into a completely different icon to convey its intentions? I don't think so....unless on Nexus devices and JB.
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I understand your point for other things but imo that example isn't confusing. I brought up the keyboard to type, now I want to undo that so I hit back. The screen keys don't help much in that sense either. Holding home for google now is a nice feature but isn't obvious unless someone reads the guide etc. Unfortunately smartphones are probably always going to be harder to learn than a PC due to their size and input restrictions. Though Windows 8 may prove me wrong lol
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Anyone else see this?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/03/no-verizon-the-droid-dna-doesnt-have-on-screen-navigation-keys/
I wish my Note 2 had two home keys and got .49Mbps. Fail.
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My Razr got .49mbs on LTE all the time, so I guess this ad is PROOF that they think that speed is good for LTE. That and the month's and month's on the phone with them. LOL

Poll: Rear buttons; Love them or Hate them?

I'm curious where people rank the rear buttons on the G2 in practice. If you have the phone and have been using it a reasonable amount of time, what's your take on the button placement compared to typical placements of the keys on the side/top etc.
I would prefer side ones. I can't tell which is which on the Verizon version and have to flip the phone around to see
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love them. much better than top/side buttons. it just makes sense.
I absolutely love the buttons on the back. For me, the buttons, thin bezel and knock-knock feature all make for a unique and fun experience. Love it.
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I rarely use the buttons at all anymore..... But, the few instances I do, I have to turn the phone over because the Verizon ones are so small. I prefer power on the right, volume on the left.
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ffejy462 said:
I rarely use the buttons at all anymore..... But, the few instances I do, I have to turn the phone over because the Verizon ones are so small. I prefer power on the right, volume on the left.
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Thank god for Knock-On, because I rarely touch the volume keys (Tasker automates it for me for most situations) and I have a Power button on my AOKP navbar as I usually avoid the power buttons on phones so I don't wear the out (usually do volume-wake).
the rear keys are extremely useful when i listen to music with wired third party earphone; while my phone is in my pocket, and i want to skip/rewind the songs.
i just put the rear side facing outside, and whenever i feel like changing the song, the button is always within reach without pulling the phone out of my pocket.
unlike most phones with side volume/power key.
and of course i used gravity box to enable those functions.
Rear buttons: fully functional, no accidentally pressing volume n power when holding the sides of phone anymore, easier to take selfie snapshots, knock knock reduces the power button from getting worn out fast, power button doubles as a notification light and glows during a phone call (looks cool at night) and also makes the phone unique (if you're into that).
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They're cool but taking a screenshot is a pain.
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They're cool but taking a screenshot is a pain.
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I always use QuickMemo to take screen shots.
Absolutely love them. I have a case so I keep my index finger on the edge of the button cutout (essentially making sure my finger is by default on the volume down) and then I can easily find which button is which without thinking twice. My hands aren't that big and it's still very comfortable. My dad was a bit skeptical about it and he picked up the phone and noticed his finger just went to the buttons and realized it actually makes sense and isn't just a gimmicky idea.
I would like to see rear buttons as a rule in future phones.
Using for a week and quite comfortable with them. I love knock-on. Problem trying to zoom in camera though!!
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Definitely more love.
1) I constantly use a Bluetooth headphone so adjust the volume while the phone is in my front pocket is easy
2) Knock knock is way too cool
3) I seldom even use the power button at all with so much convenience built into the G2 stock UI (Korean F320S) Anyway Kit Kat is out for F320S
What back buttons?
Honestly, I don't even notice the back buttons since I use the knock knock feature.
The only times I used the buttons is for volume adjustment when I'm watching a video. Even then, I don't even see it as an inconvenience.
I have slight OCD so I avoid using the buttons so they don't waste. They seem as if the paint would rub off after to much use.
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Using for a week and quite comfortable with them. I love knock-on. Problem trying to zoom in camera though!!
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I thought the "Take picture with power button" function in the stock ROM was hilarious; who could possibly do that? Selfies I guess, but using the rear camera, that'd be almost impossible with any kind of normal position on the phone.
Esteef said:
Honestly, I don't even notice the back buttons since I use the knock knock feature.
The only times I used the buttons is for volume adjustment when I'm watching a video. Even then, I don't even see it as an inconvenience.
I have slight OCD so I avoid using the buttons so they don't waste. They seem as if the paint would rub off after to much use.
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I have to agree. Knock-on is one of the most unexpectedly awesome (for me at least) features I've had in a phone in a long time, and I almost never use my power button.
I must say that it's a good thing knock-on is great though, cause the button layout on my VS980 is terrible. It seems like a simple fix like moving the power button next to the volume buttons would have fixed this, and made the buttons more distinct feeling. Putting it in the middle of the volume buttons make it impossible to tell which button you are pressing.
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i find it much easier. i use my one index finger to hold down both power and volume and bam, pic taken, nice and simple.
I absolutely love those bastards at the back of the phone. First because it allows the bezel to be almost non existent and 2 cause it gives the phone an identity. I love them.
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really awesome, I love them so much

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