Wanted to know which wud be better htc one x or or sony xperia s, i know camera and screen of xperia is better but based on looks and all what wud u recommend???
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Wanted to know which wud be better htc one x or or sony xperia s, i know camera and screen of xperia is better but based on looks and all what wud u recommend???
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What do you think will be the answer in the Xperia S general forum
For me personal the XPS, because I really like the phone and software experience despited I have swapped my phone due to the yellow spot issue...
Now on the new one have to wait for the latest FW update .73 which solve the battery drain issue too...
Other then that a great phone with amazing screen/design/camera/sound which of course is subjective
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Wanted to know which wud be better htc one x or or sony xperia s, i know camera and screen of xperia is better but based on looks and all what wud u recommend???
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I'd disagree - One X has slightly better camera and better display. Difference in camera quality isn't that obvious until you start shooting photos in low-light conditions, where HTC's very bright lens (f/2.0) starts showing its true potential, while Xperia S tends to leave excessive amount of purple noise (see my camera shoot-out between both). When it comes to the display - yes, Sony has better pixel density and image is exceptionally crisp, however HTC's display is better for browsing web, viewing photos, videos etc. and also has excellent viewing angles (which, as we know, isn't great in Xperia).
HOWEVER, as I currently have both One X and Xperia S, and I need to ultimately decide which one to keep as my default smartphone for the next 1-2 years, I'm leaning towards Xperia S after all. HTC has received exceptionally positive reviews around the web but personally I wasn't that impressed (my review will be up at coolsmartphone sometime next week). It still looks soooo HTC'ish, it's fairly chunky (albeit thinner and lighter than Xperia!), I still don't like HTC Sense that much (yet v4.0 is fairly ok) and finally I struggle to feel these "4+1" cores it supposedly has. Yet, it is pretty snappy in day-to-day usage, on par with Xperia S I'd say, however there are noticeable UI lock-ups that still happen occasionally. Especially after prolonged and heavy use, for example, if I spend too much time in Chrome Beta browsing websites, or view too many photos/videos in Gallery etc. launcher process is apparently restarted and reloading it takes 8-10 seconds! Really annoying and nothing anyone would expect from the phone bearing such spec. Another thing which annoys me in HTC is on-screen keypad, nowhere near as good as Sony's, especially when it comes to gesture input and autocorrection handling.
Don't get me wrong, HTC One X is really good device, in many ways much better than Sony Xperia S, however I feel slightly better while using Xperia after all, even if some of its hardware bits aren't as good as they could be.
I own both phones and as far as I can tell, xperia s is more responsive and stable than htc one x. Battery lasts longer as well.
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I own both phones and as far as I can tell, xperia s is more responsive and stable than htc one x. Battery lasts longer as well.
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In my case battery's better in HTC, however my Xperia is still running .67 and draining juice as hell, hoping .73 fw will fix it as some people reported.
I got the xperia s at launch and love it. Got the One X as an upgrade as its the phone I can get the most money for. took the sim out of the S, put it In the one x and used it for the day........loved it! The one x is much better all round apart from battery life. My sony smartwatch drained the **** out of it! One X is boxed up ready to sell. **** battery has cursed the one x, its like the desire all over again. Xperia S ftw!!!
I used both. Sold Xperia S and got HTC One X. Not sure if I can hold on it longer.
Lot depends on your preferences. I am biased towards Xperia designs. They look so unique and stylish to me. HTC phones haven't changed much in their curved corner looks that reminds me of a cow tongue.
1. One X seems to feel more well built and sturdy than S mainly because it's thinner and has no removable back cover.
2. S display is awesome but One X is not bad either.
3. S USB cover idea is terrible.
4. S capacitive buttons needs some getting used to.
5. Both camera's are good enough for phones.
I think it all comes down to you personal satisfaction. I am already thinking to sell my One X after another week or two and consider either Xperia S in white or P. I just love the Xperia's lean and clean ROMs and user interface and designs.
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I used both. Sold Xperia S and got HTC One X. Not sure if I can hold on it longer.
Lot depends on your preferences. I am biased towards Xperia designs. They look so unique and stylish to me. HTC phones haven't changed much in their curved corner looks that reminds me of a cow tongue.
1. One X seems to feel more well built and sturdy than S mainly because it's thinner and has no removable back cover.
2. S display is awesome but One X is not bad either.
3. S USB cover idea is terrible.
4. S capacitive buttons needs some getting used to.
5. Both camera's are good enough for phones.
I think it all comes down to you personal satisfaction. I am already thinking to sell my One X after another week or two and consider either Xperia S in white or P. I just love the Xperia's lean and clean ROMs and user interface and designs.
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Yeah, very well said. Both phones are pretty capable hardware-wise (HTC maybe a little bit more), both have certain strengths and weaknesses, hence difficult to pick a clear winner here. I guess personal preference would be main factor here for anyone.
You should also consider the HTC One S.. It's like an improved Xperia S on a One X body, the only thing wrong with it is the qHD Pentile SAMOLED screen, personally, me moving from a Samsung Wave won't make a difference, if Pentile doesn't bother you, pick the HTC One S, it's the fastest phone on the market thanks to the Snapdragon S4 chipset, GSMArena said it's the best music phone, and it has the same camera as the One X, with a better design.
XPS no doubt around that, screen and camera cant be compared.
Xps is a way better in that.
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thanks every1, was myself inclined towards xperia s cause of the design, cud not find a single place to check out htc onex so had to ask for reviews
200 € difference in price did it for me.
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Yeah, very well said. Both phones are pretty capable hardware-wise (HTC maybe a little bit more), both have certain strengths and weaknesses, hence difficult to pick a clear winner here. I guess personal preference would be main factor here for anyone.
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Well that is always subjective to the reviewer or user and is always biased
I don't agree with you about browsing and videos (HD) this one is for me personal a clear winner and about the viewing angles that's a non brainier.
I always look straight to screen Then we have the unique human eye which plays a part too for every user lol
Reviews show camera on HTC beeing slightly worse than Xperia,
actually HTC made it quite mediocre.
Some videos also show browser stuttering.
I believe quadcores are not optimized yet in full.
Design of Sony is IMO ahead as well as UI which looks more clunky on HTC.
I have Xperia S myselt. Also I used One X quite a lot. One X has a lot of advantages before the Xperia S. Screen is a lot more bigger if you compare two devices. Also i like the colors more on the One X. It has ICS with Sense 4 UI from the box and that thing is just awesome even though Sony did a great job to the GB making it look very good too. The camera is even more fast on One X and photo quality is not bad at all. The speaker is louder on the Xperia S. You cant forget about Tegra 3 platform which is very good in terms of graphics/perfomance. Also there are a lot of custom roms for One X and they make it last for 3 days without charge in medium usage level. Also it feels monolith compared to XPS which constists of several parts with all these covers and transparent panels. Maybe you dont need that much out of a mobile phone, but yes, the One X is better choice if you put away the fact that it costs a lot more then Xperia. If I haven't bought the Xperia I'm sure i would buy the One X instead. But now personaly I don't see many reasons for changing my device.
Oh and the white One X with its huge screen is just simply amazing. You definitely have to take a look at it for yourself.
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I have Xperia S myselt. Also I used One X quite a lot. One X has a lot of advantages before the Xperia S. Screen is a lot more bigger if you compare two devices. Also i like the colors more on the One X. It has ICS with Sense 4 UI from the box and that thing is just awesome even though Sony did a great job to the GB making it look very good too. The camera is even more fast on One X and photo quality is not bad at all. The speaker is louder on the Xperia S. You cant forget about Tegra 3 platform which is very good in terms of graphics/perfomance. Also there are a lot of custom roms for One X and they make it last for 3 days without charge in medium usage level. Also it feels monolith compared to XPS which constists of several parts with all these covers and transparent panels. Maybe you dont need that much out of a mobile phone, but yes, the One X is better choice if you put away the fact that it costs a lot more then Xperia. If I haven't bought the Xperia I'm sure i would buy the One X instead. But now personaly I don't see many reasons for changing my device.
Oh and the white One X with its huge screen is just simply amazing. You definitely have to take a look at it for yourself.
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Well I don't like a bigger screen so easy choice
Lol my youngest Son updated his brand new Sensation Beat to ICS guess what beside some
cosmetic stuff he didn't noticed a lot of difference between GB and ICS ;-)
Not to mentioned the extra strain on the battery through ICS, still the weak point of all mobile phones...
Here in Canada I have decided to go for the XPERIA S. Mostly because I like the aestetics of the Xperia a lot more. The One X would look nice, if it didn't have that bulge where the camera is. That (in my opinion) was the major deal breaker.
The XPERIA S costs $499 Canadian here and the One X is rumoured to be $620. Albeit that the One X has a better processor and includes LTE, it wasn't what I wanted. If I were to get the One X, I would get the black LTE version, and only the white LTE version is coming to Canada.
I should have the XPERIA in my hands Tuesday, Unless I happen to come across an Black LTE One X (for cheaper), I'm staying with the XPERIA.
I've got both, Xperia S first. I'm used to sense and really like it so I missed having it. The screen on the Sony is crisper but the HTC is very clear also. I much prefer the widgets on the HTC to the Sony.
For me the One wins hands down but only because I like sense and because I had a hd2 for two years I'm biased
Don't get me wrong the Xperia is a lovely phone,just not for me.
As some of you mentioned,It's down to personal preference.
Good luck with whatever you decide
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I love my white xperia s. I get so many 2nd looks from people at work. But I'm really wanting to try out the one x. I have nothing against the xperia I just have an addiction lol. So if anybody has a one x they wanna trade let me know
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prefer the Experia S
I have both a HTC One X and the Xperia S.
I had the One X backordered and then my iPhone4 died.. so I bought the Xperia to tide me over until my One X arrived. Like one of the other posters I am quite partial to HTC sense having owned an HTC Desire HD, and a Sensation previously. But I bought Fancy widgets pro and was able to enjoy the best parts of the Sense experience on the Xperia S.
My One X finally arrived a few days ago, and after setting it up and using it for one day... I have decided to sell it and stay with the Xperia. I do like ICS but guess that it will be here soon... but there was nothing that I found that superior on the One X to make me want to keep using it.
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Now that MWC showed HTC,LG...next phones for spring/summer 2012, we can say that the Xperia S is the best phone out there...why?
-Screen is not monstruous like the 4.7'' of the One X,and it has 720p resolution while One S is still qHD
-12mp! all other android phones are limited to 8mp.
-Dual core cpu 1.5, yes it's not the quad of One X but again who need 4.7''?
So in clear xperia S beats the One S in screen resolution and camera hands down.
It beats the One X in screen ppi and of course dimensions!
SGS3? well like the One X it will be huge with 4.7 or 4.8'' screen and anyway it won't be out before June!
Though WE NEED DEVS so CM9 and MIUI can make the Xperia S perfect
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Now that MWC showed HTC,LG...next phones for spring/summer 2012, we can say that the Xperia S is the best phone out there...why?
-Screen is not monstruous like the 4.7'' of the One X,and it has 720p resolution while One S is still qHD
-12mp! all other android phones are limited to 8mp.
-Dual core cpu 1.5, yes it's not the quad of One X but again who need 4.7''?
-One X has a fixed battery, any freezing and you will feel very bad!
-One X has microSIM slot like iphone 4, so you have to cut it or change it
So in clear xperia S beats the One S in screen resolution and camera hands down.
It beats the One X in screen ppi,microsim,fixed battery and of course dimensions!
SGS3? well like the One X it will be huge with 4.7 or 4.8'' screen and anyway it won't be out before June!
Though WE NEED DEVS so CM9 and MIUI can make the Xperia S perfect
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There are lots of things to love about the Xperia S (I've got one on pre-order) but you should know that the Xperia S also has a fixed battery and a micro SIM.
vegetaleb said:
Now that MWC showed HTC,LG...next phones for spring/summer 2012, we can say that the Xperia S is the best phone out there...why?
-Screen is not monstruous like the 4.7'' of the One X,and it has 720p resolution while One S is still qHD
-12mp! all other android phones are limited to 8mp.
-Dual core cpu 1.5, yes it's not the quad of One X but again who need 4.7''?
-One X has a fixed battery, any freezing and you will feel very bad!
-One X has microSIM slot like iphone 4, so you have to cut it or change it
So in clear xperia S beats the One S in screen resolution and camera hands down.
It beats the One X in screen ppi,microsim,fixed battery and of course dimensions!
SGS3? well like the One X it will be huge with 4.7 or 4.8'' screen and anyway it won't be out before June!
Though WE NEED DEVS so CM9 and MIUI can make the Xperia S perfect
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As yardglass pointed out the Xperia S has a non-removable battery and micro sim. Also the Xperia S does not beat the HTC in screen resolution as they are both 720p also it is lighter and thinner though a bit longer and wider. And no before you say im a HTC fanboy i've got the Xperia on pre-order already, just wanted to clarify some things with you
Sorry for battery and microsim.
I was talking about pixels density, between 720p 4.3'' and 720p 4.7''
The Xperia S beats the iphone4 but the One X is beaten by the iphone4,so in terms of optimal graphics:
Xperia S > Iphone4/s > One X/Galaxy Nexus > Sensation/ One S > SGS2
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Sorry for battery and microsim.
I was talking about pixels density, between 720p 4.3'' and 720p 4.7''
The Xperia S beats the iphone4 but the One X is beaten by the iphone4,so in terms of optimal graphics:
Xperia S > Iphone4/s > One X/Galaxy Nexus > Sensation/ One S > SGS2
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I believe it has the highest pixel density, yes. I really have no need for more than a dual core phone either. I don't even believe that the OS handles more than that at the moment, and I can't think of any app that would need that processor?
Xperia P :?
I'm bout to test it I have a confusion with both of them :O
I changed my order over from a Galaxy Nexus to the Xperia S. Nexus is sitting staring at me on my worktop, but it's going back tomorrow in a pre-paid bag.
The camera, faster processor and looks were enough to snap me up. However I do see that Xperia/Sony android development looks nowhere near as active as HTC/Samsung/ect.
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I changed my order over from a Galaxy Nexus to the Xperia S. Nexus is sitting staring at me on my worktop, but it's going back tomorrow in a pre-paid bag.
The camera, faster processor and looks were enough to snap me up. However I do see that Xperia/Sony android development looks nowhere near as active as HTC/Samsung/ect.
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If it makes you feel any better, there's been a couple devs come out and say they're getting this phone (I believe DoomLord is one of them).
Audioboxer said:
I changed my order over from a Galaxy Nexus to the Xperia S. Nexus is sitting staring at me on my worktop, but it's going back tomorrow in a pre-paid bag.
The camera, faster processor and looks were enough to snap me up. However I do see that Xperia/Sony android development looks nowhere near as active as HTC/Samsung/ect.
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Good choice. I think that with the Xperia S we'll be seeing a very high amount of developers. It's a very powerful device at a relatively low price, it has excellent cameras and an awesome display.
The biggest problem with the Xperia Arc and the rest of the 2011 family is that it wasn't a very powerful handset at release, it lacked RAM, internal memory and a faster processor. And the unlock tool from the Arc came a few months after the release.
The Xperia S however will be unlockable right away, we'll have a great set of resources to base ourselves on, and it has really good specs. And it's generating tons and tons of buzz around the internet.
I really did like the 2011 line of SE Xperias.
But I'm a bit apprehensive about the 2012 series because of the few qualms, as I see:
Non-removable battery
Non-expandable storage
Micro-SIM
Last-generation hardware specifications
The support for the phones being from Sony henceforth (whose track record for having a strict lock down policy on their devices is quite well known).
I'll wait and see what Samsung has up their sleeve with the S2 successor and if that's disaapointing, I'll go for the Xperia S (or Ion, if they do plan for an international release).
Sony Mobile, is not Sony. Sony Mobile still is the same set of people it always was, nothing will change. They're very committed to delivering all updates quite fast, you really shouldn't worry about that.
Micro-SIM: It'll be the standard for 2012.
Non-expandable storage: Isn't 32GB already a huge amount? I've always been fine with 8GB on my phone and 16GB on my standalone Walkman.
Non-removable battery can't be a problem either if there is a hard reset key combo. It's not been a problem for the iPhone or Nokia Lumia 800/N9 either.
I like this phone, but no LTE for AT&T bands and the CPU are a bit of a let down.
The 720P IPS 4.3in screen seems very nice and I would likey trade my oled+ 480p screen for the screen it has.
P.S I hope all buying like there new phone.
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Sony Mobile, is not Sony. Sony Mobile still is the same set of people it always was, nothing will change. They're very committed to delivering all updates quite fast, you really shouldn't worry about that.
Micro-SIM: It'll be the standard for 2012.
Non-expandable storage: Isn't 32GB already a huge amount? I've always been fine with 8GB on my phone and 16GB on my standalone Walkman.
Non-removable battery can't be a problem either if there is a hard reset key combo. It's not been a problem for the iPhone or Nokia Lumia 800/N9 either.
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It's a relief to hear that Sony isn't helming the mobile development division. I was afraid that there might be lock-downs and restrictions enforced (akin to locked bootloaders, hence, inability to flash custom ROMs) seeing as what they do to their PSP and PS3 product ranges. But I suspect Sony might somehow wiggle in their proprietary standards like they always love to (ATRAC3Plus, MemoryStick, PSVita Memory Card, etcetera).
Furthermore, I sure do hope Micro-SIMs become the standard as I do a travel a lot and I'd hate to cut my SIM cards to size.
And about the non-expandable storage, it isn't about the storage space per se, but it is more related to how I can swap an SD card with the data I need rather than copying it to the phone via a PC (thus making PC a requirement). However, if the storage space happens to be full I'd have to delete some data, and picking what to delete might be a tough choice, especially with no PC nearby to make a backup. I think this might become more evident when everyone tries recording videos for extended time in 1080p on their Xperia S which takes up more space.
I believe non-removable batteries are alright in the short run, but in the long run, there might be the necessity for the use of higher capacity batteries or backup travel batteries. Plus, if the battery decided to fizzle out, I couldn't possibly swap out the battery to fit in a new one without handing it in for service, which I believe is the iPhone user's bane.
Cheers, mate.
Only thing that irks me is non-removable battery, but hey, it's a worry not something I actually need. Never had an issue with my iPhone 3 battery, never replaced my HTC Desire battery (only ever pulled it for rebooting).
The ability to fast charge the battery to 80% in 30 mins may or may not have something to do with this, unlikely, but even if not it's a nice feature.
only thing that irks me is the usb/hdmi on opposite sides with those crappy plastic covers. if only the S was a bit more like the P we would have powered docks and car mounts... that was my biggest let down... seeing the P design makes me wish they thought the S through a bit more.
I am quietly waiting for reviews!!
Screen quality (viewing angles,colors,sunlight...), speaker volume, quality feeling...
Large battery - check
720p screen - check
Stylish and elegant design - check
made by Sony - check
Yep this is the best Android phone for Spring 2012 imo.
The best review / comparisons I've found are on PhoneArena. I'm being offered the Experia S as an upgrade for my existing contract, but unsure whether to wait for the One X or the Galaxy S3.
But again, as they're all essentially governed by the chipset/software, so does it boil down to which one you like the look of and what goodies they have on board?
Never easy, is it?
Non-removable battery
Non-removable battery is very bad. If the phone stucks, how to shut down?
Should we wait a long time till to battery reach 0%?
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Non-removable battery is very bad. If the phone stucks, how to shut down?
Should we wait a long time till to battery reach 0%?
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10-second press (or a combo, not sure anymore) will force-reboot the phone, it's hardcoded.
hi all, i wanted to know why you choose the sxs, i did it for the simple reason that i love sony phones..and i like to upgrade my phone..
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Screen (HD + readable in sunlight) + good (theritically) camera + good processor + ICS ready + Sony normally doing good music players
It's design! It looks so sleek from almost any angle. (like the transparent strip at the bottom)
A good CPU as well, although not the best out there, it is optimized well and really responsive.
The HD screen of course, with it's amazing pixel density.
The camera with dedicated shutter key allows for quick and fast photo taking.
Because S2 felt cheap and plasticky. SXS felt great when using.
I had read and seen loads of review before and after the sxs was launched. Let me tell you seeing it on the monitor and holding it in hand are not the same thing.
I went to a local electronics store to see the phone, once I saw the actual thing and held it...it was love at first sight.
Dont Buy Xperia S if...
Xperia S is really a good phone from display 342 ppi, 12M, looks etc...
But dont buy it if...
1. You want to make video calls...it does not support it
2. Photos are really shaking mostly...very poor low light photos
3. Battery Drains like indian rains
Because I liked the matte feel, design, camera, and also because it is comparable in price with HTC Sensation and cheaper than SGS2. I only paid $450 AUD, which is 350 euros.
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hi all, i wanted to know why you choose the sxs, i did it for the simple reason that i love sony phones..and i like to upgrade my phone..
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No point of understanding this!
You check it out yourself, find what you feel good and bad and decide to buy/reject.
Each users have their own preference/taste.
It looks like a small television!
No but seriously,
- Supersleek design
- 12M camera
- HD screen
- I like Sony
- Able to rub it in my iFriends' faces.
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i chose sxs as an upgrade from htc hd 2 with gingerbread thanks to doom kernal,
upgrade was a toss up between the galaxy note, htc one x and the htc beats sensation xl,
after reading the reviews the camera on the xperia s was by far the best out of the bunch along with the screen.
the hdmi capability and the fact the screen was so clear made me jump ship from htc to sony,
i didnt want a phone the size of the htc one x or galaxy note,
the only bad points on reviews about the xs were the covers fro hdmi and usb port, even though iphone, htc and samsung dont have covers on theres, the fact it was non removable battery, again same as i-phone (and im sorry 32gb is plenty) and the fact it had a dual core not a quad core, sorry but why would i need a quad core in my phone, there are no apps that need it and likely not going to be until my next upgrade,
plus i love the look of the xperia s in white compared to the htx one x and the galaxy note was horrible to hold for me,
despite the fact sony have let us down with the firmware updates i love the phone to bits,
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- Able to rub it in my iFriends' faces.
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That one reason is good enough.
I cant desribe how awesome this piece of plastic is..
The screen
The camera
The speed
Just everything!
I bought this phone mostly of the screen..
Just HD in just a tiny little motherf8....
Just joking xD
Just HD in this tiny screen..
Even my friends where amazed when they saw it...
Its just awesome!!
But the only BIG problem is.. Fat32.......... If you know what i mean..
And forgot to say.. The design...
- Camera
- Sony
- Camera
- Design
- Price
And
- Camera
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I got the SXS because it was supperior in various ways to the SXP (which I had as an choice also):
- HD screen
- bigger battery
- 32 GByte storage
I went with Xperia S cuz
1. It's a SONY !!
2. The sleek design (looks like a Sony Bravia )
3. The screen !!!
4. The 12 mpx cam and also the fast capture functionality
5. The build quality and the premium feel in the hand
6. Stunning UI
And
Cuz its the first SONY device after 10 years
- Sony build quality, One of the main reasons I don't like SGSses.
- Good components and testing.
- Good battery and charging system, battery-life is a different thing. One trolling process is enough to **** it up (widgets!).
- Get's 4.0, STABLE. A perfect base for slimming down and tweaking.
- Camera
- The tags
- Screen, LCD fanboy, I like reading in the sun..
- Original UI, personally I don't really care about that. In the end my Android device UI looks the same on all phones. LauncherPro4TW.
cuz' I am a fanboy.
and a simple reason that Sony makes thing beautiful.
SONY
make.beautiful
Hi guys,
I'm posting in this section because this is for all you that are thinking to replace their X10 with the XP. If you mods think this should go to General, please move.
So long story short, should you move to XP? Answer is Yes. (not YES, but Yes)
It also depends on how much money you will need to spend. Where i live i could get 100€ for my old X10 and for the Xperia P i needed to cash out 250€. So i believe this to be a good trade because for 150€ and no contract i got a completely new, faster and in every way superior phone (almost every way).
I believe the Xperia P to be the direct successor to the X10, just because how similar they are with the screen size and everything, if i would be upgrading the X10 to a new generation, i would do something like the Xpeira P.
The next part i divided into sections so it will be easier to follow.
SCREEN
No doubt about it, the Xperia P has a better, more vibrant screen with higher pixel density. That said, you won't have any problems with the X10 screen either so it's a matter of taste. Personally i actually prefer the X10 screen because of 2 things:
- the XP screen is too yellow, it's hard to get used to, but i try...X10 has much colder colors which i quite like since i find it more realistic
- the higher resolution on the XP actually makes things smaller on the screen so i like the x10 resolution better since everything looks a bit bigger and in my opinion easier to use
Everything else however is on the XP side, for example the brightness which is superb. In any case you will not be disappointed with the XP screen.
I have to say also that Multitouch works much better on XP.
SIZE OF THE DEVICE ITSELF
Size is something that is really important for me since smaller size allows you to use the device better with one hand. With the Xperia P you kinda win and loose here against the X10. It's thinner and has less width, but it's longer. And because it's so long it's harder to use with one hand since the screen is further up above than on the X10. This makes it harder to get to the top of the screen with your thumb. BUT...overall the XP is very one hand friendly and still perfectly usable.
LOUDSPEAKER AND SOUND
Loudspeaker is very good, i must say it's better than on the X10 and louder. Sound is very good, but i always found the sound on sony devices (i'm talking about headphones) to be awesome, XP is no exception but i wouldn't give it any edge against the X10 in this respect.
MEMORY AND RAM
I believe 11.5GB user available is good enough for the XP. In the X10 i had 8GB SDcard and it was almost full most of the time so 11.5GB give me just the perfect amount. That said, if you want to take full hd video then i would advise you to transfer it to your PC and delete on your phone as soon as you're done taking it. Of course X10 could win here theoretically with it's microSD expansion, BUT...you can attach an USB drive to your Xperia P when needed, so it kinda overcomes the issue in that way.
I've never had any issues with internal memory on the X10 (1GB) and on XP you have 2GB so that's just fine. No real advantage for the XP here (in my case).
1GB Ram in XP is very good and all you could want in a phone. On the other hand the X10 is not so good in that respect with only 384mb, so a definite plus to the XP.
CONECTIVITY
Almost the same, little bit faster standards on XP but in normal use very hard to notice if you don't have a very fast network provider. Wireless signal is almost the same, maybe a tiny bit better on XP. X10 does not have NFC but in all fairness it's not THAT useful and i don't use it yet, maybe in the future...
CAMERA
Now this is an important section for me. I almost got the Xperia Sola but i went for the P because of the camera and i'm not sorry i did it.
The first thing you notice is how much faster it is than on the X10. So that comes in handy if you don't want to your friends to wait for a whole minute to take a picture or if you're on the move and you need to snap something fast.
X10 set a pretty high standard for me, i got used to it so much that i could take some really and i mean really nice photos. But that is when the lighting conditions are almost perfect. And i can say that the X10 i a match to the XP in those conditions. The quality would deteriate grately with sun loss.
Xperia P handles lower light better, not to mention it's very good flash so taking a photo in very bad lighting can turn out pretty good if you're not taking a picture more than 3m away.
The video recording is better on the P, quality is not SOO much better but the video itself is not jerky at all so it makes a big difference.
FRONT CAMERA
X10 has none. But actually, not such a big minus for the X10. The front facing camera on the XP is so bad that i don't even want to use it. If it's reeeeally necessary then i suppose it would do, but i don't like it at all.
SOFTWARE
Of course our beloved X10 is stuck on 2.3 which is not bad but...4.0 for the XP and the upcoming 4.1 means a lot. Unfortunately for the X10. But there is hope with all the great devs.
Actually, that's one thing i'm missing on the XP, it does not have such a good dev support as the X10. Not yet at least. So be prepared for that.
PERFORMANCE
XP wins here no question about it. Can X10 handle most of everyday tasks? Yes. But XP handles them lag free. Makes the phone a little bit easier to use. But in the UI itself, it's not such a huge difference. So if XP is 10 out of 10, i would give the X10 7.5 out of 10.
If you're gaming however, that's a different story and XP will eat X10 for breakfast here.
BATTERY
X10 is way better here. Ok not way better but just the fact that you can take out the battery means a world of difference. Change it for a better one, have a replacement...It's just better for me. Also it lasts a couple of hours longer.
From the XP you can expect it to last you one day of normal usage with ease. But any heavier usage will make the battery run for it's life quite fast. That said, it does charge quickly so if you have your charger close, it should not cause any problems.
CONCLUSION
Yes, i would buy it again. Am i impressed? Yes, but not as much to say YES. Overall the XP is a better phone in almost every way. It is a reasonable upgrade and i would recommend it. Keep in mind that all you have read are just my personal opinions (with a couple of facts).
ALTERNATIVE
As an alternative, i would get the Samsung Galaxy S2. It is similary priced and it's GPU and CPU are faster. Bigger screen is both positive and negative if you want to use it with one hand. Overall it is a tough decision between them so it will be individual. From HTC i would include the HTC Sensation. Though none of them has the style of the Xperia line. Again, personal preference.
Post your comments/questions. I'm here if you want to know more. Hope this helped someone.
Have a good one! :good:
How would you rate the XP to the htc One S? that's also the mid-range, though it's flagship material lol
If money is no issue then definitely the One S is a better device, with faster performance and a great screen. It depends for what you use your phone though. If it's just for normal use (with light gaming), then i don't think it's worth the money over the XP, performance wise.
Everything else seems pretty much the same as the XP but i've never user the One S so it's just my opinion.
But you can't really compare it, i don't think this is the same segment of phones. (although some might also call it mid range, for me dual core Krait should be considered lower high end)
cool review, i was going to do one comparing the X10 with the Xperia T, but the differences are kinda extreme lol
hehe thanks, yeah the T is another dimension
For users that will get the XP, i just got this case for the phone and it looks really good, very nice feel to it also. Just search for Xperia P TPU case on ebay and find the cheapest one for you.
But somehow I feel that the XpS is wayy too overpriced..probably because of its outdated chipset..
I may go for Samsung GS3 Xperia S or htc One X. Not too sure or maybe a palm pre? Lol but I think SGS3
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I may go for Samsung GS3 Xperia S or htc One X. Not too sure or maybe a palm pre? Lol but I think SGS3
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You're better off with the one X. Its tops the S3 in benchmarks, meaning smoother performance. It's cheaper than the s3 as well...not to.mention its looks a damn sight better than the s3(which belongs in the trash IMO)
I would neither buy a xperia p nor a htc one x: to the first: i hate this transparent part which is simply ugly and a waste of place. To htc: I didnt like Htc at all till the One series came but i would take the one s or maybe the butterfly, but this is having such a big screen... not for everyone.
I will *maybe* buy a galaxy note (better for working) or the xperia V for the flagship. Maybe a nexus, but only if its gettin micro sd slot and (easily) removable battery. I also hope that the xperia neo L comes to europe, i pretty love the design. But i wont buy a new phone until my x10 dies. It is my first android phone and i love it.
A last question to the xperia p: on my x10 i hate it when i want to use it with wet fingers or when it has been in the cold and a litlle.bit water on the screen irritates it and i cant work at all with it. Is this better at the xperia p?
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I expect so...it doesn't have a waterproof screen like the xperia go (which is pretty awesome)... although the V and the acro S would be able to handle a little water easily
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A last question to the xperia p: on my x10 i hate it when i want to use it with wet fingers or when it has been in the cold and a litlle.bit water on the screen irritates it and i cant work at all with it. Is this better at the xperia p?
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not much better, i know what you're talking about but as with all non watterproof phones, it's creating problems
At present I have a HTC one and an Xperia Z Ultra. Wondering whether to get a htc one max and sell my other phones or sell both and get a note 3 or keep the Xperia z ultra and sell the HTC one. I'm unsure does anyone have some advice other suggestions etc please help.
just my opinion
If you prefer performance, then keep ZU or sell for Note 3
If you are not really care about performance, just choose your ideal phone
There are so many factors can change your mind, it could be performance, screen size or phone body, etc.
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At present I have a HTC one and an Xperia Z Ultra. Wondering whether to get a htc one max and sell my other phones or sell both and get a note 3 or keep the Xperia z ultra and sell the HTC one. I'm unsure does anyone have some advice other suggestions etc please help.
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Keeping in mind that I'm heavily One Max biased, This is an extremely capable device. Gorgeous fullHD screen + front facing stereo speakers (sound is to die for!) = Mini Home Theater. Runs super smooth, never hiccups. My battery lasts a full day. I thought having only SD600 and 2GB RAM was going to be an issue for me but it's totally not. I beat on her and she's snappy enough for me... and nothing's snappy enough for me! Oh and I love my camera, pics are great, a million times better than my last phone.
Note 3 was what I was originally going to buy. I played with it a lot while waiting for One Max to be released. Beautiful device, super fast, Day-Glo screen LOL. It's... well... it's a Samsung Galaxy (It should be noted that we own 5 Samsung Galaxies) Clunky UI, TouchWiz , insane bloatware, SuperAMOLED screen. I am personally not a fan of Samsung screen tech. Colors over-saturated and unnatural. The Note does have some cool and unique capabilities, like It's S-Pen and Multi-app.
To be perfectly honest I have no hands on experience with Z Ultra. It's gorgeous, glass, waterproof, great specs, I'd have one for fun if I was rich.
Also for your consideration is the recently launched LG G Pro 2. 5.9" 1920x1080... Equally comparable in specs to the Note and the Z Ultra, It's also equally as pretty.
Good luck deciding!
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just my opinion
If you prefer performance, then keep ZU or sell for Note 3
If you are not really care about performance, just choose your ideal phone
There are so many factors can change your mind, it could be performance, screen size or phone body, etc.
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Your right so many factors haha. There's a constant battle going on in my head for past couple of weeks. To be honest I just chucked the note 3 in there as another phone. Although I like the idea of some of there stuff the ui is horrible. And still don't like the design that much. The xzu is a powerhouse it is so smooth. The ui is great best I've seen but to me it is other parts letting it down. The screen is stupidly sensitive to the point if the screen is abit dirty from fingerprints (it is a fingerprint magnet) then the screen can go crazy with phantom touches etc it's installed with a factory installed anti shatter film which also scratches quite easily. There's no ir blaster. And the thing I hate is its such a big phone they for some reason couldn't incorporate a god damn flash. Plus the Sony throw (dlna) is pretty ropey to say the least with my HTC one it would play one video then play the next without having to mess around. With the xzu it can be a night mare and that's if you even get it to work. Sometimes I have to turn off wifi on phone then back on or even turn off the phone completely all while turning off TV to get a connection. It can be a frustrating phone to say the least. @neodiver the water proof isn't all that you have to compromise for sound quality. But it is a luxury device. But for luxury the price for accessories is crazy, for the xzu power case it's about £110... But again while I sent the xzu off for repair last week. I hugely missed the phone. I was using my HTC one and was not impressed having to use it. I'm not sure if that was small screen phobia or what haha. But it was lacking. It may have been the rom I was on. It was great to have a good camera phone back but still. If you guys could give me advice. I don't mind how biased you are towards the phone.I had a demo on the phone over weekend. At the moment the power is in your hands haha. What is the camera like? Is it same as htc one? Does the sd600 let it down I'm any way. What is Dev support like. Is it rootable. I may even try a gpe rom is the one available. I guess it has xposed bit can you use the toolbox.apk. Which is on htc one on the max? What do you guys think of the HTC accessories if you have them or even if there are any out... I haven't yet checked. Does it work with the Sony smartwatch 2 I don't have 1 but may give it a go at some stage. Etc. Thanks if you do manage to read my long ramble.
Oh I will have a search for that LG. Might not be available in UK yet as haven't heard much of it.
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Keeping in mind that I'm heavily One Max biased, This is an extremely capable device. Gorgeous fullHD screen + front facing stereo speakers (sound is to die for!) = Mini Home Theater. Runs super smooth, never hiccups. My battery lasts a full day. I thought having only SD600 and 2GB RAM was going to be an issue for me but it's totally not. I beat on her and she's snappy enough for me... and nothing's snappy enough for me! Oh and I love my camera, pics are great, a million times better than my last phone.
Note 3 was what I was originally going to buy. I played with it a lot while waiting for One Max to be released. Beautiful device, super fast, Day-Glo screen LOL. It's... well... it's a Samsung Galaxy (It should be noted that we own 5 Samsung Galaxies) Clunky UI, TouchWiz , insane bloatware, SuperAMOLED screen. I am personally not a fan of Samsung screen tech. Colors over-saturated and unnatural. The Note does have some cool and unique capabilities, like It's S-Pen and Multi-app.
To be perfectly honest I have no hands on experience with Z Ultra. It's gorgeous, glass, waterproof, great specs, I'd have one for fun if I was rich.
Also for your consideration is the recently launched LG G Pro 2. 5.9" 1920x1080... Equally comparable in specs to the Note and the Z Ultra, It's also equally as pretty.
Good luck deciding!
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I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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Sony is always the first to update new versión and sell 1 phone no pixel con new version android in october
The 4k oled 21: 9 screen is addictive since I don't want 16: 9 screens to go 18: 9.
The flying phone has android stock with addictive features.
The battery is neither bad nor excellent I always arrive at bedtime with a battery
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I really like this phone...eventhough not perfect.
Itd easy to handle with one hand in portrait
Camera its not perfect but among the best.
AhsanU said:
I'm the type of guy that can't stay with a phone for longer than 6-8 months and I'm already wanting a new phone. I'm currently on the OnePlus 7 Pro, and while it's a great phone, I still find myself wanting the Xperia for its build quality, looks, etc. I should also mention that I had a C6906 Xperia Z1 that I adored, but lack of Android updates and battery issues steered me away from Sony after a short stint with the Z3 (the emeral green finish was beautiful).
So to those that own the Xperia 1 - how do you feel after owning it for a little while? Did anyone come from the OnePlus 7 Pro? Part of my fear is the fact that I may miss the 90hz refresh rate, and as a result I'm considering a big and bulky gaming phone like the ASUS RoG Phone 2 as a potential new phone.
How has Sony been with Android updates lately? If I buy this phone, I'll likely keep it at least until the next version of Android hits. I know I won't get lightning fast updates like I do with OnePlus, but have they gotten better lately?
A lot of reviewers have voiced their opinion on the phone but if anything, the tall screen speaks in volumes to me because I'm constantly using my phone to either browse Instagram, reddit, Google, business emails, and other forms of use that benefit the tall screen. But is this one aspect of the phone worth the upgrade?
I'd love to hear from owners how they actually feel. I know it's difficult being unbiased, but I'm strongly considering buying this phone and would love to hear some opinions.
Cheers!
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its depend, but one thing for sure when you pick sony xperia 1 ,you will get overall new experience on watching movies.
I was in the same position as you @AhsanU. I had the OnePlus 7 pro 256/12gb combo nebula blue and I traded it 2 days ago for a piano black Xperia 1. From my early experience I can tell you a few things.
I love the form factor, the Op7p feels a lot bigger even tho the Xperia is slightly taller. The Xperia screen defaults to 1080p but it isn't a big problem because it's super sharp and watching 4k content is insane. I hated the curved edges of the Op7p. You won't even notice the 90hz display difference.
Battery life is about equal with both device even tho the Xperia has a smaller battery, Sony optimization and the default 1080p screen mode helps there. I do however miss warp charge but the Xperia has power delivery, I have to buy a new car charger and additional USB type c cable.
Speakers are on par, the haptic feedback on Sony is way better, I can't stress this enough. Many times I'd miss notification while my phone was on vibrate on the Op7p.
Camera so far are very comparable with the X1 slightly taking the advantage, both camera suffers when the subject is moving, I have a 2 year old who can't sit still and it's a pain to capture him with both cameras compared to the super fast s10+ and iPhone xs max.
That's all I can think of for now.
Coming from a Note 9 & Galaxy S10+, here's my opinion:
The Sony fits what you need it to fit, what I mean by that is, devices can be tailored more for you than others by having different features etc.
The Note 9 & S10+ where both great, however they where great at being all round good, I felt they didn't stand out in a lot of aspects, which is where the Sony gets the advantage.. the software on Sony is leaps ahead of Samsung, don't get me wrong, OneUI is so much better than the older software and feels smoother, however Sony's feels much more refined and flows better in my opinion.
I know how the 3300mAh battery looks on paper but in my experience it's held up well and something you should be too concerned about, is it the best? No, does it need to be?, Not really, of course it would benefit from a larger cell but is 3300mAh enough to make me not want the phone? Hell no!
Then of course we have the screen & haptic feedback, this is where I feel like you need a Sony, the amount of reviews I saw that said both where gimmicky makes no sense to me, if the sharpness & clarity of 4K is a "gimmick" then surely the 90hz trend for fluidity is too?.. Anyway my point is the 4K screen is beautiful, best of the best in my opinion, same with the haptic feedback, was palmed off as gimmicky but it's something so many users overlook, having a powerful vibration for media, games & most importantly notifications is something lacking in so many other phones..
To conclude, I'm happy with my Xperia 1, and don't regret getting one
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Delighted with mine, especially interested to read that you liked the XZ1, that was one of my favourite ever phones in terms of form factor and build and in my opinion, the Xperia 1 is the spiritual successor to the XZ1. Basically, if you liked the XZ1 you should love the Xperia 1 as it adds a better screen, far more speed, better battery life, superior camera ability and various other things.
I've never used the OnePlus 7 as I had a 6T and wasn't especially impressed by it, in addition I'm not a fan of curving screens....can't see what benefit they add.
Looks great in white as well!
Yeah I would say so. Depends of course which device you have to begin with. As far as I'm concerned, the Xperia Z2 is Sony's best smartphone ever, and design-wise, the Xperia 1 is a downgrade from the Xperia Z2, although to be fair to the Xperia 1, it looks better than the entire Xperia X series, and is somewhat of a return to form for Sony, starting to resemble the classical OmniBalance design of the early Xperia Z series, and Sony made that clear by using glas for its back (and finally getting the NFC chip located on the back side again) and also releasing the Xperia 1 in the Xperia Z colors, black, white and purple (a long time ago we saw a purple Xperia flagship!). The Xperia 1 still has some of that soap bar design Sony introduced in the XZ2 though, but it's kept at a minimum here, thank God. And while I do prefer the stylish edges of the Z/Z1/Z2, I think the aluminium frame of the 1 looks quite okay. And the classical round power button of the Xperia Z should have been brought back too; the current generic pill designed power button, only works for camera and volume; Sony's power button was unique and really cool looking, and also much easier to press too.
But other than that, the Xperia 1 is an improvement in most ways over the early Xperia Z series (I'm no fan of the Z3, Z3+ and Z5; the Xperia Z series began going downhill with these devices, and that downhill continued with the Xperia X series), although there are some other drawbacks compared to the Z2, but that's mostly due to the downgrade known as Android 9 Pie, and not with the actual hardware. The 21:9 screen may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's an acquired taste, and personally I really like it at this point. The lack of wireless charging doesn't bother me as I'd never use it anyway, although perhaps it should have been added for keeping the USB port in a more mint condition. And I imagine wireless charging doesn't work that well with Sony's excellent battery care, which learns how long you charge the device, and adapts after that. Of course the battery could have been more powerful, like at the very least, 4,000 mAh, but you can get a lot of extra juice out of the 3,330 mAh battery by using black wallpaper, dark theme and so on in everything.
Personally, I think Sony's change in direction to OLED, is a mixed bag. Yeah, OLED looks great, and is very useful for saving battery life if you use completely black wallpaper and dark theme and so on, but the problem with OLED is that it wears out much faster than LCD, and it's also more sensitive to burn-ins and so on, so for that reason, I wish Sony would have kept using LCD screens. I mean after 6 years, my Xperia Z still has the exact same screen quality as it did when it was brand new; I know that won't be the case with my Xperia 1 when it turns 6.
The two main issues with the Xperia 1 right now, is that Sony has yet to add it on their Open Devices list, and that Sony still hasn't updated Xperia Transfer Mobile to work with the Xperia 1 and the Xperia 10 (I imagine this is an Android Pie issue more than anything). These two issues I'm sure will be resolved in the coming months, but it bothers me that it wasn't done at launch.
Perhaps the best thing about the Xperia 1, is that it has no ugly notches. While Sony has complied with the popularity of what I call, bezels autism, which has given us these ugly and disturbing notched smartphones, fortunately Sony didn't go all the way with the bezels autism trend, and so the Xperia 1 has a full screen, as it's supposed to be.
Not really an upgrade.
It's going to come down to 90hz screen or 21:9, that's basically it.
Rest is about the same
It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Pretty much all manufacturers have abandoned their phones using your logic
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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Well obviously Sony will abandon it if everyone's going to have your attitude and not buy non-Apple and non-Samsung devices. It might even get so bad that all we will get is Apple and Sapple. And that's the main reason I buy a non-mainstream smartphone brand like the Xperia, because I want market competition and also, Sony is a world class brand, Sony understands quality and design, and their Open Devices program alone is a good reason to buy the Xperia 1. We want open source and freedom in our smartphones.
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It's not worth the upgrade considering sony abandoned it when it comes to fixing the issues and providing updates other than copy paste of Google's security patches.
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maybe they are not list the changelog but i can say they fix something in newest update.
i notice the improvement even not major.
so your posting not entirely valid.
you must look even samsung is rare to provide the update except their the latest device and in term of speed update they are slower, too slow