Hi Everyone,
Anyone using the S5830L variant with UMTS 850 & 1900 on AT&T?
Does AT&T's system recognize the phone and automatically add a smartphone data plan? I'm thinking about getting one for a family member who doesn't need a data plan.
So nobody uses this phone on AT&T's network in the USA? Anyone? Anyone?
Ive not seen any AT&T ppl on here.
If the phone is contract then the contract will stipulate it and their site says they are compulsary. If its PAYG then it cant charge you if you havent any credit and you can easily turn data off. Otherwise I expect they will just charge standard daily fees.
I went ahead and purchased one off Amazon.
Instead of the S5830L model I received the S5830M model which has UMTS 850/1900 support.
Works great on AT&T's 3G network after entering the correct APN even though they don't recognize what model phone it is.
secretasianman said:
I went ahead and purchased one off Amazon.
Instead of the S5830L model I received the S5830M model which has UMTS 850/1900 support.
Works great on AT&T's 3G network after entering the correct APN even though they don't recognize what model phone it is.
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The M is the same as the S5830i , so be careful
Ace-ing all tests.
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The M is the same as the S5830i , so be careful
Ace-ing all tests.
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Thanks. The phone is for a non-techie relative. It'll remain stock.
I can't seem to find the stock ROM for it anywhere (WHLA1) so I might try my hand at extracting it and creating an Odin flashable stock ROM.
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Thanks. The phone is for a non-techie relative. It'll remain stock.
I can't seem to find the stock ROM for it anywhere (WHLA1) so I might try my hand at extracting it and creating an Odin flashable stock ROM.
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Just be careful in anything you do with this .
We don't have much research on this so you're basically screwed if something goes wronf
Ace-ing all tests.
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I popped my cell sim into the tablet. it connected at H+. I guess I answered my own question.
Thanks
I bought a Rogers tablet off a guy who said it was a 3G model. The box was opened but the tablet is brand new.
The Box says 4g on in. I've already put overcome on it. now I'm wondering is it a 3g or a 4g.
Is there anyway to tell by the physical case?
Also is there a thread on the different models and sub model numbers.
Thanks
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The Box says 4g on in. I've already put overcome on it. now I'm wondering is it a 3g or a 4g.
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AT&T markets HSPA+ as "4G." Rogers does the same thing. So it's officially a 3G Tab capable of 21MB down on a HSPA+ network. Rogers and AT&T call that 4G the rest of the world calls it 3G or 3G+. I'm using a phone SIM in my 3G UK Tab on AT&T and get 8MB down in fake-4G (the only real 4G is LTE) cities. The benefit of using a calling plan vs. data-only is you get unlimited messaging too. I don't know if Rogers works the same way.
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AT&T markets HSPA+ as "4G." Rogers does the same thing. So it's officially a 3G Tab capable of 21MB down on a HSPA+ network. Rogers and AT&T call that 4G the rest of the world calls it 3G or 3G+. I'm using a phone SIM in my 3G UK Tab on AT&T and get 8MB down in fake-4G (the only real 4G is LTE) cities. The benefit of using a calling plan vs. data-only is you get unlimited messaging too. I don't know if Rogers works the same way.
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good explanation and yes Rogers does work pretty much the same way.
The only differnce will come is with the roll out of LTE that is ongoing for Rogers. It is my understanding the 9500R just released by Rogers is capable of LTE but your sim card will have to be changed to accomodate both the increase in speed and (more importantly) the increase in billing charge from Rogers.
so is the latest overcome the best rom to use? or are there others that are better?
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so is the latest overcome the best rom to use? or are there others that are better?
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there are the stock roms just issued with KI2 base but I believe that is also the basis for Overcome -- install of which also provides root and a complimentary CWM file. The simpicity of this appealed to me!
So its the best starting point I would say at this juncture.
BUT the stock roms for the 10.1 are themselves quite robust, something those of us with the Galaxy S for example are unused to! So you can root and install cwm without overcome and use a stock rom -- best is always subjective and a personal judgement.
Some of the other Roms have good development but are for the wifi only version and look good but aren't meant for the Rogers Tab -- didn't stop me trying them and checking them out mind, but it all depends how much of a flashaholic you are! You need a deodexed rom if you want to install any themes at this point.
The sole custom kernel presently is the Pershoot one: allows you to OC to 1400 and does play nice with either the stock or the Overcome rom -- there is a thread and you can see the feedback yourself.
If its code name is gt -p7500 then it is 3g galaxy tab
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hoss_n2 said:
If its code name is gt -p7500 then it is 3g galaxy tab
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which is probably why Samsung has 4G printed on the box....
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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mine show 4g in the task bar (click for bigger size) but i think its the 3G+ as well (still its pretty fast)
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mine show 4g in the task bar (click for bigger size) but i think its the 3G+ as well (still its pretty fast)
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what is your tab code name in the about menue ? , is it p7500 ?
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what is your tab code name in the about menue ? , is it p7500 ?
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yes it is, thats why i say its 3g+ even if 4G is written
Hi guys, I am about to receive a "new" refurb AT&T GSII to use on my T-mobile account. I have not yet received it, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, I just want to be ready for when I get it.
Will I be able to root the phone straight out of the box? I know I need to run the unlocker from the market, but need to root first. Is the phone "locked" like iPhones are out of the box? Thanks!
And also, can I ask what the number 1 recommended ROM is for this phone? I read CM7 has some issues, but are there any CM7 based ROMs that everyone loves?
No, I believe the phone works just fine without a simcard. You should be able to start up odin, flash CWM, and flash a rooted rom all without an active sim card. You can also setup the phone by connecting it to a WiFi network. Once unlocked it will work with your T-Mobile sim.
I don't think the att sgs2 has the radio to work on t-mobile's 3g bands. You'll be limited to edge speeds. If you are ok with that, you should be all set.
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karth500 said:
I don't think the att sgs2 has the radio to work on t-mobile's 3g bands. You'll be limited to edge speeds. If you are ok with that, you should be all set.
Sent from my SGH-I777
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Yea, I have no data plan so I'm all good with the incompatible radio. Plus the screen/phone size on the I777 is perfect for me, while the Tmobile one is slightly too big.
I guess I will just follow the guides to root it. Now to pick the best kernel and ROM...
As the subject stated: I am planning to unlock my AT&T Galaxy Note to use it in Japan, but not sure if the Note will work there. I just want to be able to make calls and do light browsing at 3G speed (not 4G LTE)
Japan have 3G GSM network, so it should be, But want to confirm before I spent the $$$ unlocking my AT&T Note.
it has the proper frequencies for cellular use on 3g idont know about hspa+ so prbly dataspeeds around 2-5 mbps
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it has the proper frequencies for cellular use on 3g idont know about hspa+ so prbly dataspeeds around 2-5 mbps
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Thank you for the information!
What kind of prepaid SIM are you going to use in Japan? I couldn't find any SIM that has prepaid voice and data together. So I'm planning to use b-mobile 1GB data plan with fusion IP phone SMART. That way, I can send/receive phone call and use data.
Did you have any luck? I can't get the bmobile sim to work with this phone. Urgent help needed. I suspect it takes some special config or different radio but I don't know. The bmobile instructions alone don't work.
Look up APN for bmobile. Just my 2 cents.
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Look up APN for bmobile. Just my 2 cents.
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I had all the correct settings. I suspect the card did not work with Android 4.12. I have seen references online to rolling back to 4.11 for possibly unrelated or possibly related issues. They would not refund, so I had to do a charge-back on the card. Never trust a company who fails to stand behind a product when it completely fails to work. I ended up paying the higher price for AT&T which worked well except don't trust their wifi app - it tries to connect to partners who aren't partners, which disrupts the otherwise working mobile data connection.
Well, that really sucks, man. I guess your best shot would be to try and find another carrier that is GSM if the roll back to 4.1.1 doesnt work. Best of luck.
Please help as I need to flash or unlock the us cellular note 2 to use on Verizon. Is it possible and if so how do I go about doing it? Please help!! Thank you!
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This is not an easy task. Unless you know someone that has access to Verizons databases, you can't activate the phone on Verizon.
Don't quote me on this, but I don't think that phone supports Verizons bands.
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OK. I agree not easy. Any thoughts on being able to flash with CDMA WORKSHOP? I really need help if you or anyone has thoughts or ideas please get back to me. I appreciate it!
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Activation is all through the SIM card for LTE phones. Odds are, the USC version doesn't support the proper LTE bands to work. I also think you're going to have problems using the CDMA network as well, even if the SIM card is recognized.
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tennisjunkie said:
OK. I agree not easy. Any thoughts on being able to flash with CDMA WORKSHOP? I really need help if you or anyone has thoughts or ideas please get back to me. I appreciate it!
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It will most likely be impossible and that's if the phone supports the same bands lol. Why not just sell it and by a vzw one?
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welll ........try this
first is it unlocked and if so do this set it to global sim add apns (get on google) buy titainium backup root (oh you do have to have root ) also pop in sim if you have service bars check for the apn"s if you dont have them downloan apn manager convert it to system app through titainium b. then put sim in and reboot point i am not responseable if damage occurs ... but it shouldnt so you can you tube it to hope that helps you :good:
Nor for sure if it's possible with custom flashing but it's not stock. The note that I saw was heavily locked down. It had a sim card slot but that was about it.
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First of all.... looking at this link below.... the SCH-i605 and the SCH-R950 are on the same bands.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_cdma-5152.php
Second, I am also attempting to get this working myself. The SIM Card is not even recognized. I have my SIM from my Nexus and it still Says No SIM.
Anybody else want to lend some advice? I too would like this working.
A little more research. US Cellular did not want to give up their information to "Unlock the phone". Verizon's SIM does not work with the US Cellular stuff on the phone. It looks like that the partition needs to be setup with the Verizon PIT file. Once it is re-partitioned, then the rest of the phone should be able to be flashed to Verizon.
Am I far off base? Has anyone had success with Re-partitioning? The last 2 tries, it hangs at Get PIT for mapping.... or something like that.
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A little more research. US Cellular did not want to give up their information to "Unlock the phone". Verizon's SIM does not work with the US Cellular stuff on the phone. It looks like that the partition needs to be setup with the Verizon PIT file. Once it is re-partitioned, then the rest of the phone should be able to be flashed to Verizon.
Am I far off base? Has anyone had success with Re-partitioning? The last 2 tries, it hangs at Get PIT for mapping.... or something like that.
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Seems a little off that the partitions would be different.
I imagine it is CSC and maybe even EFS related.
Do you have a USC pit file? I'll compare it to the verizon one.
That's another issue. I don't have a USC Pit file.
I found an R950 firware update that may have the necessary PIT and CSC files. It's extremely slow... might not get back to this until late tomorrow.
Not included. Like I said before, the verizon PIT hangs at Get PIT for mapping on the R950. If someone can provide that file, I'm curious if it will get past that point.
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Won't work without heavy SW work at the modem level and kernel. For 2/3G, they share the same bands (PCS/Cellular). LTE is on completely different bands (Verizon is on Band 13, U.S. Cellular is on Bands 2,4,5 and 12). Therefore, if you could hack it enough to get it to accept modified VZ SW, it would only work on 2/3G.
First up sorry to dig it out of the grave
but i saw some utterly famous guyz replying so thought of dropping my query as well.
I am gonna get a USC Note 2 , though i will primarily use it on cdma , but i was wondering if now ( its been a month since last reply in this thread )
the phone can be unlocked and can be used on a gsm network outside of country ,
i wish to just pop in any gsm sim in it when i am abroad and use that on it.
or if there i a way to make it work with the cdma sims outside of US.
would be grateful if anyone can shed any light.
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lord dredd said:
First up sorry to dig it out of the grave
but i saw some utterly famous guyz replying so thought of dropping my query as well.
I am gonna get a USC Note 2 , though i will primarily use it on cdma , but i was wondering if now ( its been a month since last reply in this thread )
the phone can be unlocked and can be used on a gsm network outside of country ,
i wish to just pop in any gsm sim in it when i am abroad and use that on it.
or if there i a way to make it work with the cdma sims outside of US.
would be grateful if anyone can shed any light.
thanks
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I believe that the USC Note 2 is unlocked for GSM sim cards. I will know in about 5 weeks. I plan on testing my "testing" USC Note 2 while abroad. If it works, I will let you know.
I would still like to get it to recognize my VZW Sim card. Ugh!
lord dredd said:
First up sorry to dig it out of the grave
but i saw some utterly famous guyz replying so thought of dropping my query as well.
I am gonna get a USC Note 2 , though i will primarily use it on cdma , but i was wondering if now ( its been a month since last reply in this thread )
the phone can be unlocked and can be used on a gsm network outside of country ,
i wish to just pop in any gsm sim in it when i am abroad and use that on it.
or if there i a way to make it work with the cdma sims outside of US.
would be grateful if anyone can shed any light.
thanks
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It is unlocked for GSM bands domestic and internationally on supported frequencies.
For Domestic GSM/UMTS/HPSAP+ bands ( you ARENT locked to 2G , but you need to be on refarmed 1900MGHz bands for H+ in your area) I suggest taking a look at JellyBeans ROm 13 or 14.... Supports GSM bands and APN editor . I have my Verizon sch-i605 running on TMobile at 6MB+ down and 2MB+ up with text and mms with no problems at all.
TMO has no contract plans from $50-$70
Simple Mobile has plans from I thin $30-$60
both with 4G (AKA HSA+)
Its not an issue with verizon variant, but us cellukar vwrsion is tricky. Inserting an international gsm sim only shows unsupported
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nitro66215 said:
A little more research. US Cellular did not want to give up their information to "Unlock the phone". Verizon's SIM does not work with the US Cellular stuff on the phone. It looks like that the partition needs to be setup with the Verizon PIT file. Once it is re-partitioned, then the rest of the phone should be able to be flashed to Verizon.
Am I far off base? Has anyone had success with Re-partitioning? The last 2 tries, it hangs at Get PIT for mapping.... or something like that.
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RE: As of 9-13-13, no luck still with Re-Part. working on clients R950 trying without root is the goal, but appears it is the only way. Manual Programming is also difficult. VRZ's pit file i605 won't map on R950. Soft bricked the phone after each attempt. Both phones operate on same bands for sure, but must have providers software installed for the LTE card to work. Not even sure how stable a root would be, but not going to attempt on clients phone......
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RE: As of 9-13-13, no luck still with Re-Part. working on clients R950 trying without root is the goal, but appears it is the only way. Manual Programming is also difficult. VRZ's pit file i605 won't map on R950. Soft bricked the phone after each attempt. Both phones operate on same bands for sure, but must have providers software installed for the LTE card to work. Not even sure how stable a root would be, but not going to attempt on clients phone......
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Attempted something similar today, was told the phone does not contain a CDMA radio so no go for service of any type because it does not support the same LTE band also.
Even if you managed to get the radio working, the Verizon rep said that the phone is not on their list of allowed devices and a SIM would not activate over their network.
I recently bought an unlocked SGS3 GT-I9300 in amber brown. This is my first smartphone and I'm just learning there are many variants of each model. I bought a Net10 sim card labeled to include 3G & 4GLTE but now I understand my phone isn't 4G capable. That doesn't bother me but what does is as I'm commuting daily through a fully-saturated 3G area I never see 3G on my phone. If I watch it closely as I drive (not a good idea...) I have seen it flicker for a split second a few times. I've called Net10 customer "service" and was guided through the entire configuration a 2nd time but it's still the same. They had no further suggestions.
I like everything about the phone and can't complain about the performance. I get 3-5Mbps download speeds on H+ (whatever that is) and web pages load fast. One of my main desires is to stream internet radio through the phone to my car radio and I'm concerned the limited speed might give me trouble with keeping connected to a station.
How do I find the cause of the limited speeds? At this point I don't know if the issue is with the phone, the sim or Net10. I'm open to switching carriers as long as I stay on GSM. I have a cottage in northern MI where GSM is strong but CDMA is almost non-existent. I stopped at an AT&T store yesterday hoping they might be some help since it's their network Net10 buys time on--but the 2 kids there were clueless.
Keep any suggestions simple, I'm a noob and old--a bad combo
I'd suggest you try Wikipedia for an explanation of mobile data, H+ is 3G and the best you are going to get without a 4G capable phone.
Also, the i9300 isn't sold in the USA so you probably have a variant which has a specific forum here on xda -as our files will brick your phone. Check under the battery for your actual model number.
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boomboomer said:
I'd suggest you try Wikipedia for an explanation of mobile data, H+ is 3G and the best you are going to get without a 4G capable phone.
Also, the i9300 isn't sold in the USA so you probably have a variant which has a specific forum here on xda -as our files will brick your phone. Check under the battery for your actual model number.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply to my noob questions. I have been searching the net for info. The wiki S3 page was helpful, but I didn't find a mobile data page. Does the US version have the H and H+ status indicators? If not then I can understand why I never found an explanation and why the folks at the AT&T store didn't know either. That really doesn't excuse Net10 CSRs not knowing--especially since they are all "international".
Regarding the I9300 thing--do you mean there is a sub-forum for international I9300 phones? I thought I had found the right spot...?
My phone came from a guy in Alaska and it still has their (GCI) oem software on it. Does that mean it's already been reloaded with local OS? My Device Status is "Modified" but I have no idea to what extent.
Also--if "H" = HSDPA and "H+" = HSPA+ is my phone fully compatible with US 3G and what kind of real-world speeds should I be seeing?
I'm heading up to my cottage after work today and will be testing the phone there. If I can't get data there I will be discarding Net10, and possibly this phone. On Verizon I could not talk and texts took a long time to get through. I bought a cheap flip phone on Tracfone for use there & it gets pretty good signal.
The i9300 isn't sold in the USA for good reason, as it won't get the best out of the networks. It will work, as you've found, but how well I have no idea.
I'd suggest, again, that you check the actual model number printed under the battery.
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I'd suggest, again, that you check the actual model number printed under the battery.
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The actual model number printed on the label under the battery is...GT-I9300. Are we on the same page re my phone or is there something I'm not understanding?
guy48065 said:
The actual model number printed on the label under the battery is...GT-I9300. Are we on the same page re my phone or is there something I'm not understanding?
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This is the I9300 page .
But as said really we are clueless about use of the international model used your country .
Basics are any firmware and a modem to suit your local network .
As said you are on 3G already .
H+ is actually 3.5G, etc, just Google it, all explained somewhere in a wiki for example http://readwrite.com/2010/09/16/3g_35g_4g_lte_wimax_beyond_the_marketing_speak#awesm=~opViZD2o1WYsB0
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There have been one or two users who use the phone in NA .
Been looking at some "how fast are you" posts here and it looks like I am getting pretty typical speeds.
I guess it's working as it should.