Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
Haven't you read any of the android development ?...read,read,read......if your scared to root you shouldn't ....we all read and do research to learn what we would like do or not to do...no one hear is gonna hold your hand and dobit for you...not to sound like a d**k.....but your not apparently ready for any of this..If you wont spend the time to research
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
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I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
wish777 said:
not to sound like a d**k.....
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No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
MrJoran said:
I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
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That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
NaughtyBot said:
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
I'm still waiting for a pure mac osx root method...
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
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well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
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For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I agree with you, thank you very much for your advices!
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I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge!! That's definitely gonna help me... I'm starting to feel a bit more comfortable with rooting my Note
wish777 said:
well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
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What the f, the only think I edited was the topic name.
MrJoran said:
I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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I completely agree that the sheer volume of information in this particular forum is overwhelming and, in many cases, unclear and not (necessarily) relevant to the Canadian Note handhelds (Rogers, Bell or Telus).
I'm looking for information specific to rooting and unrooting my Rogers Note I717R with my Bell service and it's been a frustrating couple of days, with a handful of fruitless attempts to unroot, resulting in a re-flash to stock.
Oh well...I'll keep digging and doing this research. It seems that it was so much easier on my Moto Atrix, but I digress
Thanks all!
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I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
NaughtyBot said:
This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
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Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
MrJoran said:
Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
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Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
greezythumb said:
I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
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Yeah, it is indeed really overwhelming, I'm kinda lost! I'll keep on reading, thanks for the precious advice!
MrJoran said:
No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
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Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
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Awesome! That's all I needed to know by the way, these are the only apps that might not be included in your files, I'm not sure though and I don't care if I loose them I think I can easily get them back on Bell's site, I will confirm that in a day or two, once I convinced myself to root the Note!
NaughtyBot said:
From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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Yeah you're right, the phone has to be rooted to be restored and thanks for explaining the flash counter thing in dept, it's much more clear now! I was just a bit afraid to root it since I've been experiencing a weird bug on the phone and I might have to bring it to Bell to have it checked up or something but now, it's all good!
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Hi. I just ordered the HTC Hero but I'm not sure what version OS it will ship with.
Whats the official latest? Will I have to root and all that stuff to install it?
What are Radio's? What do they do? Why would I need to install/update one?
Are there any risks or downsides to rooting the device?
If I do the official update, will I lose the ability to install custom ROMs? If I root it to install custom ROMs, will I lose the ability to install official updates?
Thats all for now... I might ask more questions.
Thanks in advance.
Well done! You do have some tastes!
Just forget about all your questions. Get used to Hero first.
Visit forum pages for knowledge and info for a month from today.
After that you will be answering and helping others.
Regards.
Fair enough, thanks
But I know people just say "dont mess up". I'm just curious as to what the worst case scenario is if you DO mess up.
Gormandy said:
Fair enough, thanks
But I know people just say "dont mess up". I'm just curious as to what the worst case scenario is if you DO mess up.
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Worst case scenario?
What happened to *this* guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585269
But you'd really have to be not careful when you do things...
Main things to remember when you're looking at things: if it doesn't say CDMA, it's likely for the GSM version of the phone and won't work.
If all else fails: ask here about specifics...and if it still breaks things, there's always the RUUs for your provider (assuming it's on the list: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622)
Hm cool, thanks!
I'll most likely only install the latest *official* RUU when I get my phone. Modding I guess will have to wait a bit, but its good to know that effing up is ... hard
Use and enjoy your Hero and determine what do you want from it ie usb tethering, skype on 3, sip application for which no roots needed. At present wifi tethering does need root. So not everyone will want to go root way.
If you still go root way , I suggest to read about it. Reading is harder! And its a 10 minute job once fully understood.
i have no idea what kernels, roms and modems are, yet i want my phone to be as fast as possible with the least amount of lag, to be able to download better apps (root required), and to uninstall bloatware(?). will "voiding my warranty" be beneficial to me and make me EXTREMELY happy with my vibrant as opposed to just fairly happy with it, or does it involve things way over my head that wont be worth my time and possible risk (bricking it)? to root...or not to root...? thanks for your opinions and advice!
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i have no idea what kernels, roms and modems are, yet i want my phone to be as fast as possible with the least amount of lag, to be able to download better apps (root required), and to uninstall bloatware(?). will "voiding my warranty" be beneficial to me and make me EXTREMELY happy with my vibrant as opposed to just fairly happy with it, or does it involve things way over my head that wont be worth my time and possible risk (bricking it)? to root...or not to root...? thanks for your opinions and advice!
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IMO the benefits of rooting your phone does outweigh the benefits of leaving it stock (for warranty purposes). It looks like you know what you can achieve by rooting but before you decide to, I really do recommend that you read up on every sticky there is on this forum. I did tons of lurking and even when I joined, I literally lived in the reference threads before I decided to root mine and my husband's phone. Personally, I did it because our phones began to lag so much and my hubby's phone was in desperate need of reflashing to stock (it was crashing randomly and relocking itself after unlock - it was a good thing I had saved our codes). Just having ROM Manager and Titanium Backup saved so many butts on this forum when unfortunate things happen while experimenting.
Take my advice...
Rooting your vibrant can be "glorious"... if you follow directions.
First read some "first time" threads... get familiar etc..
Some advice.
1. Use one click root, or some other "one click solution"
2. After rooting, start small by installing clock work mod.
MAJOR: Make a backup... NANDROID BACKUP SAVES EVERYONE!
3. After this, start applying some mods like lockscreen etc...
4. Then start by flashing kernels. (start with voodoo... this makes the phone fast)
(then flash bali, you will get 1.5 days worth of battery life, with 10% to spare)
5. Then flash roms! They can change your phone experience!
Be sure to read directions, and don't be afraid to ask 10000's of questions on threads to make sure you know what you are flashing (just make sure it hasn't been mentioned on the first post)
do i only have one kernel and one rom at a time or can you have mult kernels/roms installed?
Op, I would encourage reading the guides in my signature. Let me know if I can help.
Rooting is the best thing you can do for your phone in my opinion.
Bro take a look at some post and you better follow directions... its the best thing for your phone, just like a new girl u have and u ask how the hell you could get her.. lml get familiar with odin because it will be your best friend to unbrick... also get z4root app to easy root, search in the bar for it cuss its not in the market... anything just ask me brother..... but first get familiar with all about rooting this phone ... gonna skip some bricks like happened to me when started
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If you root the phone try using my rom lols
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Root is great fella read up on it. You can always unroot and what not if you need to take it back
I use swype so expect bad grammar and errors
And I would say the exact opposite about one-click roots.. your choice man. And this phone is incredibly (incredibly) hard to brick...
You guys are talking to a phone!
The phone wants to know and you answer lol your being mocked.
OP (vibrant) correct me if im wrong.
If I am well then take s15's advice and learn from him thru his sig
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Actually, just in case you won't to look at options...
here is a guide I typed up for someone last night that lists the steps of going to ODIN > Root > CWR > Flash
Here are the steps.. again, I have more detailed guides but this shows you the process pretty easily.
Shortbus-Driver said:
You guys are talking to a phone!
The phone wants to know and you answer lol your being mocked.
OP (vibrant) correct me if im wrong.
If I am well then take s15's advice and learn from him thru his sig
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LOL! nah, ya'll been giving some real good advice, exactly what i was looking for! (was still asleep when ya'll started posting this morn) anyway, thanks everyone!!
s15...of course i am at work now so i cant really sit down and go over the info in your sigs, but you bet your @ss i'm going to when i get home. your time and help has been very much appreciated, and i prob will end up asking a couple of questions, but i guerss thats what you guys are here for!! thanks again to EVERYONE who replied to my original questions
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s15...of course i am at work now so i cant really sit down and go over the info in your sigs, but you bet your @ss i'm going to when i get home. your time and help has been very much appreciated, and i prob will end up asking a couple of questions, but i guerss thats what you guys are here for!! thanks again to EVERYONE who replied to my original questions
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OP anything you need just pm me, well pm me before rooting so you dont be bored reading, ill provide you with all you need including eugene froyo that does not brick... pm me and ill tell you everything you need brother
Yeah, be sure and read some and then if anything doesn't make sense or you question the process, just let me know. Then go back and read again... you will be confident in the steps. It's not hard.
Telling someone not to read because it's boring is so uncool.
bosina said:
OP anything you need just pm me, well pm me before rooting so you dont be bored reading, ill provide you with all you need including eugene froyo that does not brick... pm me and ill tell you everything you need brother
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1 - Bored reading? You don't think people should KNOW what they are doing?
2 - Why in the world would he need Eugene's froyo that does not brick, why make it harder?
3 - read 1 and 2.
Hi, Everyone. i am BRAND new to android OS. i've been using IOS until recently i got Samsung Galaxy S2 i777 ATT--running android 2.3.6 gingerbread, for $9.99 (gre8t deal huh)
1) can someone PLEASE give me Step-By-Step guide on rooting/unlocking my device?
2) what is the VERY 1st thing i should do with my phone before rooting?
--also i dont have any MicroSD--i dont use tons of App or anything so is there a problem me not having MicroSD?
--also i am Wi-Fi cover 100%, 99.99% of the times and NOT wanting to use ATT Data
once rooted--will my Internet work (must hav for myself).
3)what are ROMs (i kno little abut them) but, which one are best & how should i keep up-to-date with it?
4)once unlocked my phone, can i continue using WITHOUT paying for DATA?---like i do with my Iphone (turning 3g & cell data OFF)
i personally wana thanks to all hard working devs, i've read many posts befo. posting this and they seems to know what they doing, THank you once again!!
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i've read many posts befo. posting this!
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I get the feeling that some (myself included) will question this part. There are guides in this forum for nearly everything you asked. Search and I'm sure you'll find them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511999
Read, Read, Read is my first tip.
Start here, you will find everything for rooting.
Just a heads up as well, the search button and google should become your best friend. This forum is a self service forum, people don't take to kindly to those that don't do their research before posting.
SORRY!!! like i said i am DUMMMY to this android and really Fresh outta boat here. ive read alll the posts but, get very confused --sum say internet dont work after rooting....
If you are still confused after reading the link yoderk posted, then maybe you should not mess with your phone.
Just spend some time reading. Read more and rarely make new threads. This phone has been out for a while now so if you have a question, it probably has been asked before and answered.
1. It's in the link posted.
2. Turn it on
-no
-yes (unless you fuxxor it up)
3.a Did you google it?
3.b no such thing as "best" or else there would just be 1 ROM and everyone would be using the same one.
4. wifi? sure
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SORRY!!! like i said i am DUMMMY to this android and really Fresh outta boat here. ive read alll the posts but, get very confused --sum say internet dont work after rooting....
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Internet will work fine after rooting.
If you just got the phone, I would seriously recommend taking about 2 weeks to read up and figure out what you are doing. Everything is fairly simple once you know the terms and common lingo. Don't jump in and come out with a nice paper weight.
desichiko23 said:
SORRY!!! like i said i am DUMMMY to this android and really Fresh outta boat here. ive read alll the posts but, get very confused --sum say internet dont work after rooting....
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I suppose my previous post was less than helpful. 'pologies.
1) There is a thread that will give you step by step instructions for rooting your phone. "Zedomax" has videos available as well. Check out galaxys2root.com under the AT&T section. Yoderk's post will prove helpful, should you read it.
2) The first thing you should do is turn the phone on Kidding. Backup your apps and data, just in case. Backing things up is usually a good first option no matter what you're doing with your phone.
-- No MicroSD card, no problem. Your phone has a few gigs of memory built into it. Just buy one if you need more storage space on your phone.
-- Internet will work just fine if you root successfully. Same goes for Wifi.
3) The best ROM is the one you like the most. Try them out and see for yourself.
4) I'm not sure what you're asking with this one.
THANKS everyone, & once again SORRY---lately thats what i been doing READIN everything i can about Android
but one thing thats keep bothering me is, i saw zedomax's video and they have OLD 2.3.4 gingerbread & i have 2.3.6 gingerbread....
can i still proceed with old files? or there are upgrades that i keep missing?
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THANKS everyone, & once again SORRY---lately thats what i been doing READIN everything i can about Android
but one thing thats keep bothering me is, i saw zedomax's video and they have OLD 2.3.4 gingerbread & i have 2.3.6 gingerbread....
can i still proceed with old files? or there are upgrades that i keep missing?
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I wouldn't recommend using that method, I would flash entropy's stock package that includes root and cwm via odin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
you can find it in the op of that thread.
Ok, thanks
i am sinking all the info now, gettting hang of it
one more quest. is Titanium backup free? and wht is most imp things to back up besides Apps?
I would suggest using it stock for a week, see if it does everything you need it to.
If it does, then just run stock.
That way there's no risk.
If you do decide to flash then like everyone else is saying, read and reread. Spend some time, several days just reading because there might be some little bit of information that you might miss, but is critical to a successful flash.
Good luck and welcome to freedom.
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Ok, thanks
i am sinking all the info now, gettting hang of it
one more quest. is Titanium backup free? and wht is most imp things to back up besides Apps?
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Well you can get the free version but I highly recommend getting the pay version as it saves time hand over foot as it will bulk install all of your apps. As far as apps, maybe sms if you need them that's all I do. Just a word of advise with TB never restore system apps to a different rom, it'll give you a headache.
Hey guys. I finally traded up from an OG droid to a Galaxy S2 and can't seem to find an updated rooting tutorial. All of them have dead links or don't seem to work. I hope I don't get flamed for this but can someone please send me in the right direction? Thank you.
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Hey guys. I finally traded up from an OG droid to a Galaxy S2 and can't seem to find an updated rooting tutorial. All of them have dead links or don't seem to work. I hope I don't get flamed for this but can someone please send me in the right direction? Thank you.
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1st step: make sure what model Galaxy S2 you have (label under battery) as there are over a dozen different model phones called Galaxy S2. OG "Droid" is on Verizon, and Verizon doesn't carry ANY Galaxy S2 model. If you were on Verizon previously, that means you are in the US. If so, and you got a Galaxy S2 through a US carrier (ATT, Sprint, T-Mobile), I guarantee it is NOT the GT-I9100, which is the device this forum is for.
my phone is a gt-i9100. I live in alaska. I purchased it through a local phone company called GCI. I just feel overwhelmed with all the galaxy products out there. A little over saturated, but definitely a good phone. I just wanna root it like I did my Xoom and OG droid.
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my phone is a gt-i9100. I live in alaska. I purchased it through a local phone company called GCI. I just feel overwhelmed with all the galaxy products out there. A little over saturated, but definitely a good phone. I just wanna root it like I did my Xoom and OG droid.
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I had to ask. I'm in the US using a GT-I9100 as well, but the majority of US Galaxy S2 users are NOT on the GT-I9100.
You can root using a CF-Root kernel. Works perfectly fine, and installs CWM recovery for you as well. Just make sure to follow the instructions exactly.
Hey thanks. Honestly I like this phone so much I didn't really wanna root it, but my carrier will probably never officially support the ICS update and I miss having nandroid backups and tinkering around to get the most out of my phone. Thanks for the link.
No problem, but also please be aware of the forum rules. Rule #1 is to search before posting. Not everyone will be so generous.
I gotcha. Sorry for not searching as much as I could have. I have an issue, however. My kernel is 2.6.35.7-I9100XXKI3-CL577579 and the tutorial mentions KG1. Also, there's about a million files posted throughout the thread and I have no idea which is supposed to be for my device. I'm sorry if I'm asking for a handout. I just wish rooting was simpler like on my old phone. I'm sorry, and thanks again/
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I gotcha. Sorry for not searching as much as I could have. I have an issue, however. My kernel is 2.6.35.7-I9100XXKI3-CL577579 and the tutorial mentions KG1. Also, there's about a million files posted throughout the thread and I have no idea which is supposed to be for my device. I'm sorry if I'm asking for a handout. I just wish rooting was simpler like on my old phone. I'm sorry, and thanks again/
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There's a "Help! Which file do I use ?" section in that thread. Sounds like you read that, since you mention the tutorial that mentions KG1. So you should be able to figure out which one to use based on that. I bolded the important part of your kernel version.
Alright. I found the right file and I'm rooted successfully! is there anything I can do to get rid of the triangle that shows up when I first boot up my phone? I'm totally psyched! Now I gotta search for a good ICS rom. lol.
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Alright. I found the right file and I'm rooted successfully! is there anything I can do to get rid of the triangle that shows up when I first boot up my phone? I'm totally psyched! Now I gotta search for a good ICS rom. lol.
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*sigh*... rule #1 again. This is a question that's been answered literally more times than I have posts. There are many ways.
EDIT: of course, if you flash an ICS ROM, chances are good you will have the triangle again, in which case, there is no point in getting rid of the triangle now.
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is there anything I can do to get rid of the triangle that shows up when I first boot up my phone?
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Turn the phone upside down while it's booting or put some paper over it.
Ha ha. Funny indeed. I know I had better start following the rules, and the yellow triangle isnt exactly a concern. This thread should probably be deleted due to my ignorance. For what it's worth, I'm extremely grateful for the help I've received. Lastly, anyone here on ICS or have a personal preference on what build to download? I'm kinda worried because I love EOS ICS on my xoom but gingerbread is so well optimized and I'm sure some apps won't work once I make the upgrade. So many more apps are compatible on my phone and I'm weighing out the risks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402286
this is a thread i created. it will helps you. be sure to read through it its very long but contain all the informations you need
ICS ROM: two most popular ICS and updated ROM now is Ressurection Remix and Batista - Fox Hound
start searching
Hey guys. I had one more little issue I wanted some direction with. Do I need APN Backup & Restore before I update? Also, I don't have enough room on my phone for a complete nandroid. Is rogue recovery compatible with the SGS2 or is there a way to configure CWM recovery to write a backup to the external card? Everything else is pretty much within my grasp. A million apologies and thanks for all the n00bishness.
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Hey guys. I had one more little issue I wanted some direction with. Do I need APN Backup & Restore before I update? Also, I don't have enough room on my phone for a complete nandroid. Is rogue recovery compatible with the SGS2 or is there a way to configure CWM recovery to write a backup to the external card? Everything else is pretty much within my grasp. A million apologies and thanks for all the n00bishness.
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How can I see many guys tried to help you but you never press thanks button, first learn to press thanks button and use SEARCH button before asking something
Alright everyone. I'll be more respectful of the rules and give thanks when its due but I have a dilemma because Ice sandwich doesn't give access to apn settings like previous incarnations and I feel really lost and worried that I'll mess my mobile internet up if I'm not careful.I also tried to research about making a nandroid backup straight to my external card without results. if this is the wrong place to ask can someone guide me in the right direction? Thanks.
You're saying you can't edit APNs on an ICS ROM? That's weird. The guy in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554967) sure sounds like he could edit APNs on an ICS ROM.
No. Thats not what I meant. Ive only ever edited the apn of my old phone with apn backup and restore. Apps don't have access to apn settings in 3.0 and up from the research I've tried to do. I didn't know how else to edit them. My xoom is wifi and my og Droid never made it past gingerbread so this was never an issue in the past. What do you do when you update? Write everything down and key it in after the upgrade? I have no problem doing so. I was just asking if theres an easier option. My only other issue is figuring out how to make a nandroid backup straight to my external SD card. I'm unfamiliar with recovery kernals for Samsung phones and cwm recovery doesn't let you access your external card so I hoped for advice on a better one. If I can't ask for help with these things here then I promise i won't keep coming back until I have more worthy questions. I could've done a lot more research in the beginning. If its better for everyone ill just see what happens on my own and if I screw up I screw up.
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No. Thats not what I meant. Ive only ever edited the apn of my old phone with apn backup and restore. Apps don't have access to apn settings in 3.0 and up from the research I've tried to do. I didn't know how else to edit them.
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Not what you meant? But your follow up statement here makes it sound like exactly what you meant. Not very clear here...
EDIT to add: I should say - what I linked above is ONLY relevant because I used him as an example of someone who was indicating it was possible to edit an APN on an ICS ROM. Which seems to contradict, and yet NOT contradict, what you were saying. See my confusion?
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My xoom is wifi and my og Droid never made it past gingerbread so this was never an issue in the past. What do you do when you update? Write everything down and key it in after the upgrade? I have no problem doing so. I was just asking if theres an easier option.
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There are several apps in the play store that back up and restore APN settings. But you probably won't need them. If you do a reset to default in APN settings, it should query your carrier for their APN settings, and just work.
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My only other issue is figuring out how to make a nandroid backup straight to my external SD card. I'm unfamiliar with recovery kernals for Samsung phones and cwm recovery doesn't let you access your external card so I hoped for advice on a better one. If I can't ask for help with these things here then I promise i won't keep coming back until I have more worthy questions. I could've done a lot more research in the beginning. If its better for everyone ill just see what happens on my own and if I screw up I screw up.
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I can access my external sd with CWM just fine. You have to mount it first though.
Hello, I was just wondering the best way to root the AT&T Samsung Note SGH-I717. I have looked up many ways but every time I scroll down to the comments I read everyone is having problems. I would just like the best and most proven way to root the phone. I use the phone with straight talk, it is an unlocked att phone, will rooting the phone affect anything with Straight Talk? I am new to rooting so please be detailed and give me links to get everything I need. Thank You so much.
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Hello, I was just wondering the best way to root the AT&T Samsung Note SGH-I717. I have looked up many ways but every time I scroll down to the comments I read everyone is having problems. I would just like the best and most proven way to root the phone. I use the phone with straight talk, it is an unlocked att phone, will rooting the phone affect anything with Straight Talk? I am new to rooting so please be detailed and give me links to get everything I need. Thank You so much.
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so here is the deal, here are 2 methods with very subtle differences. you didn't say what your phone was running now, so here are my suggestions.......
READ, READ, READ
I know you are new here, and I was once too. I went through all of this and was very nervous about the process. (no real reason to be)
I spent a good 2 weeks reading so I would feel confident about what I was doing. I would read through these and figure which is better for you or which you feel more confident in using. they would both work fine depending on your situation or what you phone is running. because these threads are older, you may run into an issue as to where the download files are not active anymore. that is where a recent Google search could come into play. you say you have read the comments for different methods have had negative results. problem is you don't know whether that person followed the directions correctly or whether they were just in a hurry and missed something.
that's why I posted both these threads. compare to what you have read. I have a habit of going to the back of the threads and read forward. this tells me what the most recent problems may have been and if there is a solution. though the files may or may not be active, you can always get the file. its the PROCESS which is correct. compare them.
as I said........... READ, READ, READ
it puts you in the situation to help yourself first
take your time, do as the process suggests. I even rehearsed it several times. due to my lack of experience, I wanted to be as prepared as possible in case something went wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518962
both of these threads are from very reputable members of the community. as all threads will suggest......they are NOT responsible for what you do. make sure you are ready. watch Youtube tutorals, compare processes, have your files loaded and where you have easy access, read and rehearse.
take your time
whatever you need to do to feel confident. if something goes wrong....KNOW what you are going to do next. if you don't know where you went wrong in process or deviated from it, then others cant help.
good luck and I hope I have helped
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just saw this...this is at the back of Da G 's thread. suggested by AGOATTAMER. he is the man when it comes to having old links to process. this IS the one I used, that I couldn't find.
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Thanl You Very Much. I am running 4.1.2 jelllybean.
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