Hey,
So I have been a regular visitor to this site for about 2 years now ever since I first rooted my HTC desire.
I have downloaded and tested many custom ROM's for the desire and the SGS2.
My recent favorite ROM is resurrection remix which i have been using various builds of since xmas. And only now do I have a question that no one has asked and I cant find an answer to.
Of course since I have never needed to post before when I tried to ask my question it wont let me because i have not made 10 useful comments. The only place I find useful comments is on the development forums. There is nothing specifically that I need from the other ares of the site and so I cannot offer any feedback that would be helpful to others there... the only place I can make useful comments is on the development forums, which is exactly where Im not allowed to make them.
So how does one get around that?
Luke
Probably not, but you can try contacting a moderator, the rule is there to avoid people joining and spamming the dev section with crap, if that isnt your plan they may be able to help you out.
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Ok thanks!
I will do that
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Hey,
So I have been a regular visitor to this site for about 2 years now ever since I first rooted my HTC desire.
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So how does one get around that?
Luke
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Exactly the same situation for me (even down to the 2 years and HTC Desire ).
Do what I did and make yourself useful by answering others questions. You'll be surprised how much you actually know
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Exactly the same situation for me (even down to the 2 years and HTC Desire ).
Do what I did and make yourself useful by answering others questions. You'll be surprised how much you actually know
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I'm in the same boat bud. Hopefully we will get one day to ask questions in the normal thread. Can't wait.
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Personally and apart from the spam issue the ten post thread in dev section is far to low a number one only has to read the inane posts from users with more than ten posts in many dev threads .
But how do you overcome the problem of a large amount of idiots posting who cannot be bothered to read the rules read the faqs or instructions and repetitively ask the same questions .it reflects badly on those who like the OP have taken time to read and learn as they are treated the same .
jje
That rule also stopped me in my tracks. But I can see the point on the development forums.
After the "no you can't" it encouraged me to look harder for answers and ask the (dum) questions on the general forum.
I realize the point is to avoid opening new threads for questions that might be better served in the appropriate development thread, but if you've searched and haven't found your answer I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to post one in Q&A or General, but make sure you exhausted all search options before you do.
Same for me...To be honest I wanted to answer questions and help members, not to ask myself but... I see the point of the rule, there are too many people that will ask (dum) Q without even bothering to use the search tool and filling the threads with crap when there is no need to...
Solution:
make thread about it.
Answer all who replys
Profit
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Also have same problem, I just posted a question here that I feel would be better suited to go in the Dev thread of the ROM I use.
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Unfortunately, there will be some people (a minority) affected by this rule who probably shouldn't be (those who wouldn't post crap to dev threads from the get go), but at the end of the day it goes some way to reducing the mountains of crap which get posted to dev threads every day (at least 75% of posts in my experience. I'm probably being generous).
Again unfortunately (for the people who would do the right thing if this rule wasn't in place), no system is perfect in this regard. Frankly, I'd rather have the current system in place as opposed to making things open slather. Changing the current rule would make an already bad situation even worse IMHO.
Edit to add - As was suggested on the first page of this thread, you can always plead your case to a mod if you think the rule shouldn't apply to you for whatever reason.
Further edit - Poster above me. Your recent post in Q&A is a prime example of the type of post which should not be cluttering a dev thread. It is a general question, and not specific to a particular rom.
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Unfortunately, there will be some people (a minority) affected by this rule who probably shouldn't be (those who wouldn't post crap to dev threads from the get go), but at the end of the day it goes some way to reducing the mountains of crap which get posted to dev threads every day (at least 75% of posts in my experience. I'm probably being generous).
Again unfortunately (for the people who would do the right thing if this rule wasn't in place), no system is perfect in this regard. Frankly, I'd rather have the current system in place as opposed to making things open slather. Changing the current rule would make an already bad situation even worse IMHO.
Edit to add - As was suggested on the first page of this thread, you can always plead your case to a mod if you think the rule shouldn't apply to you for whatever reason.
Further edit - Poster above me. Your recent post in Q&A is a prime example of the type of post which should not be cluttering a dev thread. It is a general question, and not specific to a particular rom.
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A great example of the mountains of crap that spew out of many of the users (if you look in there I'm sure I'm guilty too) in this forum, check out the CM9 discussion thread, imagine if that was in the dev thread, how would codeworkx and the others ever find anything that might be relevant?
Find 10 noobs to help in Q&A section, help said noobs, done.
It's not just about taking.
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Find 10 noobs to help in Q&A section, help said noobs, done.
It's not just about taking.
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This is true too, when I started I felt handcuffed by the 10 post limit, but I spent a little time reading posts and using the knowledge I gained to help out others and my post (and thanks) count quickly increased well beyond the limit. Helping others also gave me more understanding to be able to troubleshoot my own problems.
Yep that's exactly right Thracemerin, a perfect example.
I dread getting home from work & having to scroll thru 18 hrs worth/sometimes up to 40 pages of posts in the CM9 discussion thread & 90% of them are utter crap.
You're right, if it were in the dev thread, I think Codeworkx, Xplodwild et al would have given up ages ago.
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A great example of the mountains of crap that spew out of many of the users in this forum, check out the CM9 discussion thread, imagine if that was in the dev thread, how would codeworkx and the others ever find anything that might be relevant?
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Apologies I stand corrected, I thought it would be ROM related as the only info I could find through search was about adding poweron.ogg to system/etc and making sure permissions are set correctly and this is not working for me.
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Fair points
I can see the point to it cutting down a number of people who would make useless comments, although the development forums are still littered with idiots who type before they think or even look around for a solution.
OK I'm off to trawl the forums to see who I can help!
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Fair points
I can see the point to it cutting down a number of people who would make useless comments, although the development forums are still littered with idiots who type before they think or even look around for a solution.
OK I'm off to trawl the forums to see who I can help!
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Very simple 99% of posts just need a reply read the f4444 instructions first .
jje
In the stickies on this forum is help for rebooting prooblems and so you think you've bricked your phone. Yet there constantly appears postings about phone rebooting and Please Help I've Bricked My Phone, and by far most of these it is the poster's first posting.
Maybe the rule should be that you cannot start a new thread, in any forum, until you have 10 posts. Every forum has a FAQ thread that they can post on if they have searched on here and can't find anything.
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For all the Devs in the ASGS2 forum, are you guys finding your rom/kernel threads being clogged up with a bunch of random questions/issues? How would you feel if I made you all each a Q&A thread dedicated to your work in the Q&A forum? Do you feel that would help you/your thread? Please let me know what you think or how you feel, and hit up the poll to cast your vote.
This was done in the Cappy section because they had a minimum post restriction to keep the spoon feeding clutter down in the Dev section. Not sure if that restriction is also in this section. It was only like 10 post minimum though.
I tried to do this manually with Hellraiser, but it hasn't really taken off. To be honest, right now the I777 community isn't the epic cesspool that some other forums are. However over time this could change... But the kinds of users that clutter development threads are the kind who don't bother to go to Q&A threads - so does it really help anything?
we did this over in captivate forums, it worked well.
we did this over in inspire forums, it was met with serious backlash by lazy ass people, and ignorance to change.
tough decision. Entropy has a point, those people wouldnt bother going to a Q&A thread...the Q&A threads should be a place where the users help each other out and raise issues. the dev threads should be there to report ACTUAL issues and request features. what happens is that one person has a problem with flashing the rom and they assume its the devs fault, and the rom is broken, and they report it as a bug....its a vicious cycle that will never end.
Well this forum is for you guys, so if you dont think its needed then I wont worry about it... just trying to help all the great devs out and make things easier if I can.
If you guys have any other suggestions or want to try something out, feel free to say.
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im no developer but ive been around the forums and have come from a forum with less of a following. the problem is that the people who are asking the question's in the threads are 60-70% of the time dont read directions and will end up posting in the wrong forum anyways.... its a novel idea but i dont think it will take off, unless you lock the rom forum to devs and testers only
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im no developer but ive been around the forums and have come from a forum with less of a following. the problem is that the people who are asking the question's in the threads are 60-70% of the time dont read directions and will end up posting in the wrong forum anyways.... its a novel idea but i dont think it will take off, unless you lock the rom forum to devs and testers only
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That sort of defeats the purpose I think, and I also believe that most Devs here like to have people post in their threads.
Alright guys. Ill keep it the way it already is. If your threads seem to get clogged, or you want your own dedicated Q&A thread, let me know and Ill make the adjustment at that time. Thanks for all your feedback.
I would appreciate it, so far most of the users in this forum are above average when it comes to figuring things out own their own (searching). Only thing is I wish there was more ROM choices/themes.
I don't feel the need for a Q&A thread right now. I find it a bit tedious to follow two threads for my ROMs instead of one. Also, I don't really mind a few redundant questions here and there as long as it doesn't get out of hand, which it hasn't yet.
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we did this over in captivate forums, it worked well.
we did this over in inspire forums, it was met with serious backlash by lazy ass people, and ignorance to change.
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I wasn't a lazy ass or ignorant!!!!
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I wasn't a lazy ass or ignorant!!!!
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lol. feelin guilty are ya?
Not a dev, but I do post quite often in both the dev and QA sections. I don't think there should be two threads. It seems it is more effective if there is only one thread dedicated to that rom/modem/kernel, with all bugs and support given out. Of course if you have a more complex issue, it should have it's own thread. But small issues with the rom or questions regarding how something works should be contained in the same thread as the development of the rom.
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Not a dev, but I do post quite often in both the dev and QA sections. I don't think there should be two threads. It seems it is more effective if there is only one thread dedicated to that rom/modem/kernel, with all bugs and support given out. Of course if you have a more complex issue, it should have it's own thread. But small issues with the rom or questions regarding how something works should be contained in the same thread as the development of the rom.
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i agree with this, but there tends to be an influx of people posting the same CRAP over and over and over and over in a dev thread. personally i dont give 2 flips about someone saying "THANKS!" or "CANT WAIT TO FLASH THIS!" or "WHEN IS THE NEXT UPDATE?!", i want to see CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms, requests, or logcats. having to filter through all the BS really makes it difficult to discern actual issues from fluff. there tends to be a lot of fluff that happens.
i see the dev threads as being specifically for requests/bug-tracking/break-fixes. the other stuff belongs in a thread where the users can praise, bicker, ask questions repeatedly (how do i flash this?). it should be peers helping out peers, and let the devs work on their stuff. but alas, we will never have utopian bliss....
we are lucky we havent seen much of that at all here in the GS2 forums, but man some of the other forums are riddled with noobery. lets just try to keep it clean and ask our members to mind the rules and understand whats going on.
Yeah... I think as long as things don't become like the Infuse forums where some of the ROM threads became utter nightmares we'll be fine. But let's keep it in our back pocket in case we need it. I may even discontinue my Hellraiser Q&A for the time being.
If there's anything we may need, it may potentially be to split the development forum like the I9100 forums were in order to differentiate ports of other developer's ROMs from actual development. It isn't too bad here yet, but the Infuse forums are chock full of integrated Hellraiser ports and it's difficult to find original development among all of the ports.
I think the definitions for "Original" vs "not original" in the I9100 forums seem to be a bit arbitrary, if we DO ever go that route here I think it needs to be clearer.
"Original" - You yourself have taken a stock ROM (may be stock for another device) and modified it from scratch on the I777. All kernel development can remain here in my opinion. Discussion of actual porting techniques used by the other section can be here.
"Not original" - Another dev creates a ROM for another device, and an I777 user ports it to the I777 via Hellraiser or another technique. e.g. Hellraiser-integrated ROMs and such.
We don't need this yet here but we may - and honestly the Infuse forums need it.
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For all the Devs in the ASGS2 forum, are you guys finding your rom/kernel threads being clogged up with a bunch of random questions/issues? How would you feel if I made you all each a Q&A thread dedicated to your work in the Q&A forum? Do you feel that would help you/your thread? Please let me know what you think or how you feel, and hit up the poll to cast your vote.
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I did this in the forums that PG mentioned. While yes it was a bit of a headache in the inspire forums ( they are getting used to it) and the captivate section went off without an issue I would say to go for it and if needed ill help where I can. I have to admite the 2 forums that I did this for once it was gotten by most needs less cleaning now for sure. Mainly when other users back you on it.
Personally I think it would be really helpful if individual posts could be categorized and/or sorted within a thread. That way all posts relating to a specific rom/development topic could remain in the same thread, but you could then filter out the garbage, sort through the questions, and find posts that are truly relevant to the topic or project or whatever. It would still depend on the users to label posts properly, but I think we're all in agreement that there is no perfect solution to the issue.
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Personally I think it would be really helpful if individual posts could be categorized and/or sorted within a thread. That way all posts relating to a specific rom/development topic could remain in the same thread, but you could then filter out the garbage, sort through the questions, and find posts that are truly relevant to the topic or project or whatever. It would still depend on the users to label posts properly, but I think we're all in agreement that there is no perfect solution to the issue.
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I'm not a Dev myself but I do feel two threads isn't an ideal solution... Most ignorant people who can't find an answer in five second's or just don't feel like even trying to search will always head to the source of their ROM issues. Now if the method 10tonhammer described seems like an okay idea as long as any average person takes the task upon themselves to tag their post properly. Either way I'm not exactly the prime example of good manners on XDA (Feel's Guilty)
I am learning at least <3
Lastly Thank you to all Dev's and Mod's who make this the most pleasant interaction between Developer and User possible.
I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
What question do you have. Also if you read, the development forum is only for development, not asking questions.
You have no idea how many new members go in and ask questions that have been asked millions of times before or in the sticky that has BIG BOLD LETTERS ON THE TOP SAYING READ ME. And also 90% sure this thread will be locked anyways since it has nothing to do with the phones.
Oh to answer your question.
Since its an App, you're not going to find help on the black text because thats just the way the app is coded. Go complain to the developer of the app and not the ROM.
And by recovery console do you mean cwm? If so, have fun.
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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Sorry, that's a rough intro. I hope you won't be turned off by XDA as a whole. I try to keep things positive and look forward to seeing you around these boards.
EDIT, as to your questions, briefly in case this thread gets closed:
1) No easy way to change font/color behavior in a single app. As a workaround, you can hold finger over a list entry/item and read the text sometimes while it is highlighted. Some apps have theme settings for dark/light themes for exactly this situation.
2) I know modifying recovery is possible (Siyah kernel for instance) but have never seen one with larger fonts. At any rate, it's not a setting that can be changed on the fly.
I think they mean for questions like "how do i flash a rom" , "how do i return to stock" , general non rom specific questions. Any specific rom questions need to go in that dev's thread. As far as needing ten posts, find some threads that interest you in the general or q & a and comment on them.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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+ 1 its not hard at all to get 10 posts. Just look for a thread where you can comment.
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I'm pretty sure none of us are... But this is the rule for XDA that was set forth... 10 post is not a lot, especially comparing to some of the other sites that I seen out there. As of now you have 7 posts. Only 3 more posts and you should be good to go.
Keep it in mind the moderators/administrators here work hard to keep this forums nice and clean. So, new users can find things easier.
As some of the earlier posts and responses, they should already tell you what you can and cannot do.
As penguinlogik said, I would stay away from CWM. Or you will definately have a field day with it, that is from my experience.
Wait was that in the Q&A section that it was asked?
Anyways to answer your question;
The app was made for an unthemed version of the rom. When we theme stuff in the framework often times it directly effects some apps. Apps that are using framework colors anyways.
The only way to fix the app is to mod the app yourself or use a unthemed rom.
Theming is a tough job as it cant usually be done without effecting something else (app) unfortunately.
Hope that helps...
Thank you shoman, that was the first useful reply to my original question.
Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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Well said.
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I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question or ignore it. Especially when its in the q&a.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question....
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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But all this *****ing is just as useless.
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That dude was not nice... I had the same problem when started into xda, search results had no answer for my specific dilemma, and I had to make 10 posts before being able to get a real answer for my initial question. But it helped me out, cause now I use search all the time when I got questions and haven't had anyone scold me over my posts, but all that aside this is a very useful forum. Enjoy XDA!
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
Then I suggest you read the sticky thread and look at the FAQ and look in the Iscrewed thread for your answers. Just because you cant post to ask your probably already answered question, dosent mean you get to start a new thread about it.
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I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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So, I'm going to wait until the official ICS update appears for my SII. (supposedly 19th of March)
However, I still want root without flashing a custom kernel. (not wanting to increment the custom flash counter)
My understanding is that if I update to the official ICS update then the usb jig becomes useless in resetting the counter. Is that correct?
The current method I used to root was via superoneclick, however.. that no longer works with ICS right?
If for example I wanted to reset the counter (if I did use a custom kernel for root) could I downgrade from the official ICS back to GB (using odin) and then use the usb jig to reset it?
NB. I use root for titaniumbackup, adaway and lbe privacy guard.
About half of what you've written is incorrect, and you can find the correct information from a little bit of searching and reading.
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
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About half of what you've written is incorrect, and you can find the correct information from a little bit of searching and reading.
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
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Huh, that's the second post I've seen of yours that is entirely unhelpful.
You can only do so much searching and this sub-forum is called "Q&A"...
AFAIK you don't need to flash a GB Rom to make usb jig work you can just flash an old bootloader and usb jig should work like a charm after that
You got that response because this question is answered several times a day on here. And the answer can be easily found with a few minutes legwork. XReal is correct. You can flash the old bootloader & a jig will work. So it looks like you've got a bit of research/searching (to find said bootloader) to do.
EvilMonkeySlayer said:
Huh, that's the second post I've seen of yours that is entirely unhelpful.
You can only do so much searching and this sub-forum is called "Q&A"...
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You got that response because this question is answered several times a day on here. And the answer can be easily found with a few minutes legwork. XReal is correct. You can flash the old bootloader & a jig will work. So it looks like you've got a bit of research/searching (to find said bootloader) to do.
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Still, there was no need for it. A better response would have been to either choose not to respond or post with a link to a post answering the questions. XDA has been getting a very bad reputation because of posts like the above. (hell I've been a lurker on here for quite a while opting instead to read information and posts rather than posting because of the above)
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Still, there was no need for it. A better response would have been to either choose not to respond or post with a link to a post answering the questions. XDA has been getting a very bad reputation because of posts like the above. (hell I've been a lurker on here for quite a while opting instead to read information and posts rather than posting because of the above)
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Its getting a bad rep because people refuse to search and clog the forums up with already answered questions
There's even a sticky in general saying don't create ice threads...people still do it
This is a development forum, not a spoonfeed n00bs & lazy people whatever they demand forum. And it certainly isn't a democracy. If people want to gain anything from their time here, they need to read & learn.
People who don't like that can go to Sammobile for all I (and a lot of people here) care.
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Still, there was no need for it. A better response would have been to either choose not to respond or post with a link to a post answering the questions. XDA has been getting a very bad reputation because of posts like the above. (hell I've been a lurker on here for quite a while opting instead to read information and posts rather than posting because of the above)
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Its getting a bad rep because people refuse to search and clog the forums up with already answered questions
There's even a sticky in general saying don't create ice threads...people still do it
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Sure, people are posting ICS threads in general. Sure, there are people who are a bit ignorant but nothing is achieved by being rude. If it's been said a million times then don't post, let the thread die rather or until a mod locks it.
As to the bad rep, yep.. it's definitely because of people saying "use search" or "noobs". If you like I'd be perfectly happy to provide some examples? (oops, can't post urls at the moment until I've hit 8 posts)
There is a level of people keeping up with information and using search. And people who don't keep a constant watch on threads. (hence my post, I can't say I'm too enthusiastic about trawling through endless posts.. I did a bit of reading and searching, wasn't 100% sure so I thought I'd post in a question and answer sub-forum)
Anyway, I've derailed my own thread enough. xReal gave me the confirmation I was after.
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As to the bad rep, yep.. it's definitely because of people saying "use search" or "noobs".
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its got nothing to do with that at all
Like i said, its because people refuse to search, refuse to read and refuse to educate themselves. Everyone just wants spoonfeeding.
Why do people insist on opening a new ICS thread when they could just ask their question in an existing thread? Theres plenty of them....it because people WONT search - they want the answer there and then like its something they deserve
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its got nothing to do with that at all
Like i said, its because people refuse to search, refuse to read and refuse to educate themselves. Everyone just wants spoonfeeding.
Why do people insist on opening a new ICS thread when they could just ask their question in an existing thread? Theres plenty of them....it because people WONT search - they want the answer there and then like its something they deserve
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To be fair, search is pretty bad unless you know the exact terms to search for. And reading through threads can often span a significant number pages. People see those gigantic threads and can only read so much before they become either frustrated or disillusioned.
Pretty often I've just resorted to using google site search because it gives better results than the inbuilt site search. This is a problem endemic of all large forums.
Of course there are poorly worded, poorly thought out posts where the person has not read or searched. But nothing is ever achieved by jumping up and down whilst screaming about noobs and demanding they use search. In less time than it took to post about noobs and using search a reply could have been formed linking to a thread with the answer or simply it could have been left to die with all the chaff posts.
To be fair, search is pretty bad unless you know the exact terms to search for. And reading through threads can often span a significant number pages. People see those gigantic threads and can only read so much before they become either frustrated or disillusioned.
Pretty often I've just resorted to using google site search because it gives better results than the inbuilt site search. This is a problem endemic of all large forums.
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yep the search is bad on here, using google with XDA added in the search terms works fine though and provides 95% of required results
In less time than it took to post about noobs and using search a reply could have been formed linking to a thread with the answer or simply it could have been left to die with all the chaff posts.
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OR, if they read up themselves, they wouldnt have to wait for an answer or get flamed from other users...it works both ways.
The only reason you are seeing so many 'use the search function' posts is because these inane threads with questions that have already been asked ans answered pop up more now than any other kind of thread...put it this way....i no longer come to this forum to garner knowledge/info/mods/techniques or anything like that anymore, i just come here to see what other useless threads have been created and what the responses were to said thread...its becoming entertaining as well as frustrating (theres also a reason why a lot of oinkylicious' recent posts contain the copied pasted section from the forum rules:
1. Search before posting
If people aren't doing this, then they are breaking forum rules and should be given a 'vacation'
Darkside Agent said:
yep the search is bad on here, using google with XDA added in the search terms works fine though and provides 95% of required results
OR, if they read up themselves, they wouldnt have to wait for an answer or get flamed from other users...it works both ways.
The only reason you are seeing so many 'use the search function' posts is because these inane threads with questions that have already been asked ans answered pop up more now than any other kind of thread...put it this way....i no longer come to this forum to garner knowledge/info/mods/techniques or anything like that anymore, i just come here to see what other useless threads have been created and what the responses were to said thread...its becoming entertaining as well as frustrating (theres also a reason why a lot of oinkylicious' recent posts contain the copied pasted section from the forum rules:
1. Search before posting
If people aren't doing this, then they are breaking forum rules and should be given a 'vacation'
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Again, if people weren't so eager to be so rude this site would be much less frustrating for everyone involved. Case in point look at the tag added to this thread or oinkylicious' post. Not helpful to anyone in the least.
If someone can't contribute to a thread in a useful manner then don't post. The post rate is of a relatively high ratio that it'll quickly disappear into the ether.
And again, people can only do so much searching and reading. As you yourself said the site search is pretty bad and posts can often span a significant number of pages making reading up nigh on impossible unless you spend an inordinate amount of time obsessing over everything. You can't expect people to know everything.
I promised an example url earlier. Since I'm still not at 8 posts, I'll post it without the "http://" and hope the filter doesn't pick it out: pay.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/pse0m/rant_about_xda_short_and_angry_but_bear_with_me/
There is one heck of a lot of valid criticism in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
this should work
EvilMonkeySlayer said:
Again, if people weren't so eager to be so rude this site would be much less frustrating for everyone involved. Case in point look at the tag added to this thread or oinkylicious' post. Not helpful to anyone in the least.
If someone can't contribute to a thread in a useful manner then don't post. The post rate is of a relatively high ratio that it'll quickly disappear into the ether.
And again, people can only do so much searching and reading. As you yourself said the site search is pretty bad and posts can often span a significant number of pages making reading up nigh on impossible unless you spend an inordinate amount of time obsessing over everything. You can't expect people to know everything.
I promised an example url earlier. Since I'm still not at 8 posts, I'll post it without the "http://" and hope the filter doesn't pick it out: pay.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/pse0m/rant_about_xda_short_and_angry_but_bear_with_me/
There is one heck of a lot of valid criticism in there.
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Bunch of whiny users in that link you posted. And the important word here is 'users'.
You, like a lot of people are clearly under the misapprehension that XDA is a users forum. It is not. It is a development forum where users are tolerated provided certain 'rules' are adhered to by said users.
On XDA, developers come first, second, third, fourth, fifth and seventh. People who are prepared to read, learn and put in a bit of effort beyond searching for 20 seconds & throwing their hands in the air because they can't find something come sixth. And people who demand everything to be given to them on a silver platter don't figure into the equation whatsoever.
And your criticisms are completely invalid in the case of the question you asked, the answer is easily found in a minute in spite of XDA's crappy search facility (anyone who has been here more than 5 minutes knows to use Google with XDA appended to search terms). Why ? Because it's asked on here several times a day.
You can keep on digging a hole for yourself if you want tho.
Edit to add - Looks like it's your lucky day that I have fat fingers :-|
EvilMonkeySlayer said:
Again, if people weren't so eager to be so rude this site would be much less frustrating for everyone involved.
Maybe but this is a developers forum not a fix my phone forum .
Search may well be hard but as 90% of troublesome posters dont even bother to read the stickies faqs or guides dont mind reading the posts on the page they post on why should they be helped .
You asked
My understanding is that if I update to the official ICS update then the usb jig becomes useless in resetting the counter. Is that correct?
Its been asked multiple times their is even a post covering the topic .
First post on Google
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1296161.html
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f for example I wanted to reset the counter (if I did use a custom kernel for root) could I downgrade from the official ICS back to GB (using odin) and then use the usb jig to reset it?
Yet another question that has been answered multiple times .
Noobs come on here and get help all the time but their is a massive uprising by those that actually take the time to help against the ones that totally ignore the rules and demand everything dumped in their lap . If you where one of a few you would have got an answer but you are one of many sadly for this forum and its getting worse day by day .
jje
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MistahBungle said:
Bunch of whiny users in that link you posted. And the important word here is 'users'.
You, like a lot of people are clearly under the misapprehension that XDA is a users forum. It is not. It is a development forum where users are tolerated provided certain 'rules' are adhered to by said users.
On XDA, developers come first, second, third, fourth, fifth and seventh. People who are prepared to read, learn and put in a bit of effort beyond searching for 20 seconds & throwing their hands in the air because they can't find something come sixth. And people who demand everything to be given to them on a silver platter don't figure into the equation whatsoever.
And your criticisms are completely invalid in the case of the question you asked, the answer is easily found in a minute in spite of XDA's crappy search facility (anyone who has been here more than 5 minutes knows to use Google with XDA appended to search terms). Why ? Because it's asked on here several times a day.
You can keep on digging a hole for yourself if you want tho.
Edit to add - Looks like it's your lucky day that I have fat fingers :-|
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If you can't address the points and complain about "whiny users" and so forth then why are you replying?
If this site was dedicated to purely developers then there would be a number of things for said developers. Namely things like an instance of bugzilla or other software for bug tracking and git (or something else like cvs *spit*) repositories for development to ensure versions and code submitting are kept on top of.
The fact that there are Q&A, Accessories etc sub-forums rather than just forums for development only counters your assertion.
Honestly, who is digging the hole? The ones who use Ad hominems and fail to address a single point or the ones raising the criticism?
You keep replying, so surely something I'm saying is quite valid.
A quick example of what a former mod classes this forum as;
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Yes searching is in the rules and needs to be complied with, the problem most with non searchers is that they make the search harder as people search same thing and get another useless post asking the question and not the informative answers that they want.........!
Thread closed.
I have noticed that people in the q and a section are not posting nearly enough information in their post or title to get the information they need. This causes people to ask lots of questions and delay getting the answer they need. So this guide will show you what you need to include in your post to get the most efficient answer to your question.
We'll start with the Title:
- Please do not just say "HALP, PHONE BROKE" or "HELP" , etc.
- You need to be precise, and describe what you're looking for in your thread.
Next, the information you need to state before you even get into asking your question.
- The make of your phone. There are many different variants of your device. I9100 G/M/P/T
- Are you rooted/unrooted?
- What rom you are using? And which version? -and- What kernel are you using? And which version?
- Have you flashed any mods/scripts/themes?
- Have you changed DPI? If yes, to what?
- Have you done anything to try to solve your issue? This would be very valuable information.
- Please (if on stock firmware) dial *#1234# and post the results (thanks to fxrb)
Then you can ask your question.
- Do not ask "What rom/kernel/theme is the best?" -or- Something that you have not searched for (it is infact very obvious if you havent)
- Be specific and precise in what you want/need. Do not write a 10, 000 word essay, or a 3 word question.
- Pictures say a 1000 words
Important things to remember:
- Be polite: People never want to help someone who wont appreciate it, or is rude to them. Remember your p's and q's
- Do not bump your thread: It gets annoying and against the rules
This is under construction and will take a bit to include all of the information needed. I know there are lots of more experienced users than I, and would love feedback of what to include. Please do not hesitate to post in the thread or even PM me with information you think needs to be included in this thread.
Stickies
- DO NOT POST A "What's the best ROM/Kernel/Theme?" THREAD!
- [Newbies][Experienced Users][RCs] New members friendly Q&A thread
- [KERNEL][REF][Q&A] Siyah 5.0+[ICS/CM10] 6.0b5+[JB/CM10.1] +DISCUSSION+. NON-DEV!!!
- Australian AU Galaxy S II (help/rooting/updates,etc)
- SGS2 Canadian Thread (Bell/Virgin/Sasktel/Rogers) Root/Unlock/Firmware/Modems/Mods
- New here? READ THIS THREAD FIRST. What Is Recovery & Download Mode?
- Frequently Asked Questions
One more: That's it
nice this should put an end to all "not understandable" questions out there
saywhatt said:
nice this should put an end to all "not understandable" questions out there
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Hopefully. I'm just hoping people see it and follow it
kilometers4 said:
Hopefully. I'm just hoping people see it and follow it
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The thought is nice... but unless this is stickied (and even then), this thread will fall off the first page, and since the vast majority of n00bs (not new members, but "n00bs" - there's a huge difference) won't search, they won't see it.
Heck, there have been dozens of posts since you posted this that have been terribly short of any information.
But I applaud the thought.
You have to think how them noobs operate.They muck up their phone,stick the symptoms in a google search,and want an answer asap.
So they are not going to spend hours reading rules and stickies or use the search function.
I spent a week reading about stuff for the x10i I had before I decided to do anything to it.That way at least I had half an idea what helpers were talking about when/if I got into trouble.
When I joined this forum the s2 looked a lot more complicated and the forum looked a lot more "vicious"(like give that guy 20xlashes since he didnt do a search).
Its a tough world lol
Sent from my GT-I9100
ctomgee said:
The thought is nice... but unless this is stickied (and even then), this thread will fall off the first page, and since the vast majority of n00bs (not new members, but "n00bs" - there's a huge difference) won't search, they won't see it.
Heck, there have been dozens of posts since you posted this that have been terribly short of any information.
But I applaud the thought.
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Yeah, that's what I'm hoping eventually happens, it gets stickied.
theunderling said:
You have to think how them noobs operate.They muck up their phone,stick the symptoms in a google search,and want an answer asap.
So they are not going to spend hours reading rules and stickies or use the search function.
I spent a week reading about stuff for the x10i I had before I decided to do anything to it.That way at least I had half an idea what helpers were talking about when/if I got into trouble.
When I joined this forum the s2 looked a lot more complicated and the forum looked a lot more "vicious"(like give that guy 20xlashes since he didnt do a search).
Its a tough world lol
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Yea, but we have to try. At least now we have something to guide them to and for the new people to refer to. If we dont at least have a guide for how to get good answers to their questions theirs no standard.. Now there is
Nice thread
hope users follow this
Doubt many people will take notice of this (for a whole host of reasons; don't get me started), but props for trying (thanked OP).
Edit - Oops. Sorry. So used to giving crap threads on here one star I did it to yours accidentally (intended to give it 5).
+1 to search first before posting.
MistahBungle said:
Doubt many people will take notice of this (for a whole host of reasons; don't get me started), but props for trying (thanked OP).
Edit - Oops. Sorry. So used to giving crap threads on here one star I did it to yours accidentally (intended to give it 5).
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Yeah, but now we have something to refer the horrible q and a posts that have no info to. And dont worry about the rating... it happens
Do you have anything to add to it? It feels like I''m missing something
Oh absolutely. As I said, good that you've tried, I just don't see it making any difference is all. 90% of people who post here are idiots, that won't change.
No, nothing to add. I think you've covered it well.
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Yeah, but now we have something to refer the horrible q and a posts that have no info to. And dont worry about the rating... it happens
Do you have anything to add to it? It feels like I''m missing something
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in relation to search and read before asking questions...
just wanted to share that I've got a nicely setup dualboot with the siyah kernel, RootBox JB 2.1 as my second rom successfully patched with the autopatcher 1.6 and a fully working pdroid. That's it...
Since i have less than 10 posts I cannot thank the developers in their respective threads (at least that's how i get the message). I think this is my 5th post so I guess i never make it to the developers section because i really don't know what questions i can ask and, answers i could give are all answered...
this must be a "new member" problem rather than a n00b one?
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in relation to search and read before asking questions...
just wanted to share that I've got a nicely setup dualboot with the siyah kernel, RootBox JB 2.1 as my second rom successfully patched with the autopatcher 1.6 and a fully working pdroid. That's it...
Since i have less than 10 posts I cannot thank the developers in their respective threads (at least that's how i get the message). I think this is my 5th post so I guess i never make it to the developers section because i really don't know what questions i can ask and, answers i could give are all answered...
this must be a "new member" problem rather than a n00b one?
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Yeah, but don't just get 10 posts just to say "thank you" in the rom Dev section. I van personally say that devs hate this as it clogs up the thread and doesn't add anything to anything. That is why xda has the thanks button, and the devs appreciate that more than saying it. In fact, it you really want to say thank you donate to them. Even if its 1 euro they will be very grateful.
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course not it was kind of a semi-sarcastic post, I have more to say than thanks I spent countless hours reading and learning stuff (in general, it is fun after all!) and as far as this forum is concerned (which is really helpful btw!) it's difficult to then act (for the time being!). Example: Somehow I managed to post in a developer's thread 1-2 months ago, first a problem then I found the solution and posted it myself. I then got PMed by someone asking me for help. Only problem is I never got an email notification in spite of having a thread subscription so I didn't bother to check my PMs. As for donating, absolutely.
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course not it was kind of a semi-sarcastic post, I have more to say than thanks I spent countless hours reading and learning stuff (in general, it is fun after all!) and as far as this forum is concerned (which is really helpful btw!) it's difficult to then act (for the time being!). Example: Somehow I managed to post in a developer's thread 1-2 months ago, first a problem then I found the solution and posted it myself. I then got PMed by someone asking me for help. Only problem is I never got an email notification in spite of having a thread subscription so I didn't bother to check my PMs. As for donating, absolutely.
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OK awesome. I'm used to people who just want to say thanks, so I have to mention something like that. But taking a look at your sign up date, of looks like you might be able to post in the Dev section without having 10 posts. I believe if you signed up before a certain date you don't need the posts. And of looks like you might fit in there. I would try it you never know
Edit: but enough off topic
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just tested again and it seems to work now
thx for letting this off-topic slide
All the best!
Captn
Sadly I agree to everybody believing that this thread will not be read by those who should do so, sorry. However, if by accident just one out of thousand will read it then there will be 'only' 999 bad questions remaining - a small progress.
For this one out of thousand I would like to contribute something to the information section of this thread. For basic information I often ask people to dial *#1234# and post the result. As this thread is in the Galaxy SII forum this should work, at least as long as people are on stock firmware (probably use this conditionally ?).
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Sadly I agree to everybody believing that this thread will not be read by those who should do so, sorry. However, if by accident just one out of thousand will read it then there will be 'only' 999 bad questions remaining - a small progress.
For this one out of thousand I would like to contribute something to the information section of this thread. For basic information I often ask people to dial *#1234# and post the result. As this thread is in the Galaxy SII forum this should work, at least as long as people are on stock firmware (probably use this conditionally ?).
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Yeah, hopefully at least a few new users see this and actually follow it.
And for the code, what information,action will it show? Thank you for posting with more information to add, I truly appreciate it
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Hey all, new to the forums. I was glancing around the general/Faq sub forums for info about what/where different releases are posted (whether in the "Original Android Dev" sub forum or just the "Android Dev" sub forum).
What is the difference? I see ROM's/Recoveries/Kernels posted in each and they all appear to be similar in design.
Could someone tell me how retarded I am for not knowing this and then kindly tell me? Lol, appreciate the help. Just trying to make sense of the two sections differences.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
Since I am below the required post count to "thank you", doing it with this post. Sorry to be misinformed about the forum features. The article made it very clear. Thank you!
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Since I am below the required post count to "thank you", doing it with this post. Sorry to be misinformed about the forum features. The article made it very clear. Thank you!
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If you find them too "similar" sell your s3 and move on to a different device otherwise quit your whining....
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If you find them too "similar" sell your s3 and move on to a different device otherwise quit your whining....
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Sorry to miss anywhere I'm "whining". You must have me confused with your girlfriend. Get some counseling or move on brother.
icebox4u said:
Sorry to miss anywhere I'm "whining". You must have me confused with your girlfriend. Get some counseling or move on brother.
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I'm sorry, I'm not the one *****ing about roms and kernels being too similar....be grateful for what you've got
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Dude seriously? That was conceived as *****ing? You need some help man. That was a request for clarification. I wasn't complaining or *****ing.
Go take some PMS pills. It'll help you from making rage comments that make no sense.
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I'm sorry, I'm not the one *****ing about roms and kernels being too similar....be grateful for what you've got, and I'm not your brother!
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Why are you whining he asked a simple question help or do not say anything, You are wasting your time and the person who asked. Why bother just because you have a higher post count doesn't mean you should bully people. This question has not been asked before not in the S3 Threads anyway. Just answer the question and move on and stop acting like a 10 year old.
Anyway back to the topic in hand. Original is what it says in the box it is an original not a copy. So if you were to build your own rom for example from the android source and compile it and add your own made mods like Cyanogen mod do then that is regarded as an original ROM and Development. Or like chainfire he makes apps and recoveries that he made and no one else, like for example Tringle Away or CF root. These are his original mods and recoveries they are original and his own creation. Those are ''ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT''..
Android Development is taking an already made Rom that Samsung has already made like XXDLJ4 it is already made by the company. Developers from the XDA community then take this rom and tare it apart and make it smaller or add their own mods to an already built rom. This is regarded as android development.
I might be wrong but at least that is what i believe what it is. If someone else can explain it better please do.
Thanks Meemo, that's kind of the jest I got from the link above as well. I appreciate the clarification. Sorry a request for clarification and even being humble about it is considered "*****ing" by some people.
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Thanks Meemo, that's kind of the jest I got from the link above as well. I appreciate the clarification. Sorry a request for clarification and even being humble about it is considered "*****ing" by some people.
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Not a problem my friend just be warned that this forum used to be friendly before but now all people do whine about everything. I mean i can understand that people constantly ask the same question and what not. But it doesn't mean you should whine and raise your post count. If it is getting to you just ignore it.
Anyway i found this in the link he provided,
The following are most likely “Original Development”:
Official releases of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them
Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
A significant “first” in development for a device. Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.
Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available. Some element of original work is expected.
Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to users of the target device. The port should be beneficial (a port from two virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits from this, as it’s not development)
The following are most likely not “Original Development”, and should be posted in the “Android Development” subforum:
Your own “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original, source-built (or otherwise) ROM, particularly where an official or maintainer-endorsed thread exists already.
Minor derivatives of other ROMs with little or no changes, or ROMs consisting of “placebo” features as a main constituent or claim.
Renames or rebadges of others’ work – these don’t belong on XDA at all! Refer to rule 12 for more information.
Reposts of existing ROMs with small changes (i.e. kitchen work, such as adding a couple of apps). If you could realistically distribute your changes as an “addon pack” above and beyond a ROM, you should do so. In addition, your “ROM” would not be original development as it would be substantially identical to the original ROM.
A thread created with unrealistic goals that are clearly unachievable by those starting the thread. This is not intended to discourage high aspirations, rather to prevent threads porting Windows Phone 8 to the HTC Wallaby. This is pretty much common sense.
A ROM where a main or significant claim/feature is graphical changes to the user interface (ie. Themed ROM)
No, I understand. That's still no reason for a member who's been here for a year+ to call someone looking for information in an honest way *****ing.
(I welcome any mod to reset my post count to 0, as I am not here to raise that, it is simply one of the two forums I'm permitted to post in). I'm not *****ing. I'm also not whining.
I also didn't start (edited: crap) with anyone here and don't plan too, but I would also appreciate those attacking me to at least make sense.
Thanks again for the info. Duly noted, and in the future I will make greater efforts to discover information on my own instead of putting myself in a position that could be labeled as *****ing, although I'm clearly not.
speedyjay said:
I'm sorry, I'm not the one *****ing about roms and kernels being too similar....be grateful for what you've got, and I'm not your brother!
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Take your chill pill seriously, read the topic again and understand it then go insult somebody else not in this forum.
Being aggressive to 'noobs' is against the rules.. you know that right?
icebox4u said:
No, I understand. That's still no reason for a member who's been here for a year+ to call someone looking for information in an honest way *****ing.
(I welcome any mod to reset my post count to 0, as I am not here to raise that, it is simply one of the two forums I'm permitted to post in). I'm not *****ing. I'm also not whining.
I also didn't start sh*t with anyone here and don't plan too, but I would also appreciate those attacking me to at least make sense.
Thanks again for the info. Duly noted, and in the future I will make greater efforts to discover information on my own instead of putting myself in a position that could be labeled as *****ing, although I'm clearly not.
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Don't worry lol i wasn't directing that one on you mate was for the other guy you're good..
Skander1998 said:
Take your chill pill seriously, read the topic again and understand it then go insult somebody else not in this forum.
Being aggressive to 'noobs' is against the rules.. you know that right?
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Failing to bother to read the rules is against the rules .
Right at the beginning of the first post the rules .
For more information on the Original Android Development section check out this portal post
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1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
So absolutely no excuse for someone noob or not to navigate past the rules past the stickied FAQS and GUIDES and past the search button to post a repetitive question .
jje
Sigh. Thinking this forum isn't for me. Lot of ppl too butthurt over those asking questions THAT FORUMS LIKE THESE ARE ESTABLISHED FOR. Christ ppl.
I did search. That's all the "rules" state. It doesn't say how many times, or how long I should do it, but that I should. So I did. Rule not broken.
Also, I didn't circumvent ANY sticky to this sub forum or neglect to read the guides posted HERE.
Once again, I'd appreciate it if those that, even passively suggest, that I violated rules, *****ed, or whined would at least make sense.
Both of you viloated the rules. You didnt look very hard even if you searched. He didnt read and got snappy with you. You started using language which isnt allowed.
JJEgan isnt butt hurt. Dont even say i am when you read this either cuz i am not.
These forums arent to help noobs or their laziness to find what has been placed right in front of them. I wonder why it is called XDA-Developers???
**Cough**Cough**
I'ts a developer forum not a support forum. While we do help people that need it and actually try and hold them selfs up, we only do it for the ones that try first. Not the ones that want everything handed to them.
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JJEgan said:
Failing to bother to read the rules is against the rules .
Right at the beginning of the first post the rules .
For more information on the Original Android Development section check out this portal post
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1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
So absolutely no excuse for someone noob or not to navigate past the rules past the stickied FAQS and GUIDES and past the search button to post a repetitive question .
jje
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Thanks JJE
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Both of you viloated the rules. You didnt look very hard even if you searched. He didnt read and got snappy with you. You started using language which isnt allowed.
JJEgan isnt butt hurt. Dont even say i am when you read this either cuz i am not.
These forums arent to help noobs or their laziness to find what has been placed right in front of them. I wonder why it is called XDA-Developers???
**Cough**Cough**
I'ts a developer forum not a support forum. While we do help people that need it and actually try and hold them selfs up, we only do it for the ones that try first. Not the ones that want everything handed to them.
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Developers huh? What have you developed? Probably 90% of the members of this forum have never looked at a line of code. Give me a break.
Laziness is a very subjective term. I take it that you've searched for hours on end on every subject you seek knowledge on before creating a thread? No. You haven't. No one does. Or has the time too. If you can find the answer to my initial post in a sticky to this sub forum, you let me know. I'll stand corrected.
I don't want anything "handed" to me. I've been a productive member of society for more than 30 years and I didn't get there by people "handing" me anything. I asked for information in a forum. If no one wants to answer because it's physically challenging, or don't have the time, or feel like they are "handing" me something, then they don't have to answer. Get it? It's a free country. Someone else can answer, or not answer. I'm not hurting anyone or anything typing on a keyboard in a forum.
So stop acting like I rewrote The Constitution. I never violated a "search" rule.
Eek it's a flame war, run away run away!
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icebox4u said:
Developers huh? What have you developed? Probably 90% of the members of this forum have never looked at a line of code. Give me a break.
Laziness is a very subjective term. I take it that you've searched for hours on end on every subject you seek knowledge on before creating a thread? No. You haven't. No one does. Or has the time too. If you can find the answer to my initial post in a sticky to this sub forum, you let me know. I'll stand corrected.
I don't want anything "handed" to me. I've been a productive member of society for more than 30 years and I didn't get there by people "handing" me anything. I asked for information in a forum. If no one wants to answer because it's physically challenging, or don't have the time, or feel like they are "handing" me something, then they don't have to answer. Get it? It's a free country. Someone else can answer, or not answer. I'm not hurting anyone or anything typing on a keyboard in a forum.
So stop acting like I rewrote The Constitution. I never violated a "search" rule.
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Well just use some common sense to realise the difference between android development and android original development. We're not here to babysit you. And if you looked closely, the difference is....AOSP for android original development and Sammy based roms for android development....
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