Samsung USB keyboard for their UMPCs - Galaxy Tab 7.7 Accessories

I have several Q1Us from when UMPCs were being produced and one of the accessories that i still get use from is the very slim usb keyboard that was meant to go into the portfolio case for these units.
I decided to try plugging it into the USB OTG adapter and found it works great! I especially like that when i have to resort to a physical keyboard, the trackpoint makes it so i can control the cursor without lifting my hands from the keys like i would need to control a mouse or touch the screen.
I have not been able to find a wireless keyboard skinnier than this thing with the added bonus of a built-in pointer. The model number is Samsung AA-SK0TKBD/US.

Any ideas on where to buy one of these?

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Any ideas on where to buy one of these?
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Best bet will be eBay

yeah, i looked around and all the sources that sold them before say unavailable w/ no mention of stock replenishment (no surprise since it's so old now). Acid123 is right that you'll see them pop up on eBay every once in a while. When i stopped using my Q1U as much I'd still carry that keyboard around because it's so damn useful and slim.
Somebody would make some money if they just made a slim keyboard that had the same format w/ the pointing nub in the middle (i don't care if usb/bt). Would be nice if there was also the Android specific softkeys built-in like back/home/menu/search.

This one is worth mentioning. Mine has been sleeping for a while in a "PC reparing kit".
The original pouch can be useful -even if you own a larger tab- for many purposes, including travelling, and in a "crossed legs sofa position.
Customizing the original umpc craddle to make it less thick should be easy.
The KB is good but sometimes misses keys typing too fast. Hold a letter and it will display accentuation options depending on your layout.
The mini mouse is ok but can't be used for drawing for ex. Mine tends to change direction if i bend it too much. By reflex I still use the tabs touchscreen depending the situation.
Num/caps lock lits. Fn/volume+,-,mute works. copy/paste is a pleasure ctrl/c, v or x works. Esc key acts as "escape, for ex it can show off the screen KB.
USB connection won't draw battery as bluetooth so you won't bother keeping it conneted all day long on your desk.

Hey we found the same use for these! I also used it to fill in as a super portable kb/mouse combo in my pc repair kit.
Regrettably, I never picked up the portfolio case when I was using the Q1U. I notice you still have your trackpoint! Mine fell off and got lost at some point so i transferred the blue one that's currently on mine from another laptop.

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Virtual Keyboard (VKB). Any Thoughts?

Has anyone used this Vitrual Keyboard (VKB) thing?
A friend of mine said he saw someone on the train using it and appeared to work rather well.
Has anyone here been in contact with it?
http://www.internity.co.uk/vkb.asp
Ben
I have one of these - bought from Expansys. It works surprisingly well, but there are a few caveats:
You have to learn a new typing style - index fingers only, with the rest in a fist and thumbs tucked in - otherwise you get keystrokes you didn't expect.
It's not wireless, and the cable plugs into the base of the XDA2. With no stand and no landscape mode, this makes it very difficult see what you're typing.
It should ship with a USB cable to support charging & data, instead of needing a power brick. Given the ubiquity of USB ports on pretty much EVERYTHING, this is unforgivable.
All that said, it's still way cool - add it to the Xmas list...
Nice.
In this world of pure gadgetry, there is no room for those inferior beings without a VKB, so methinks I'll have to buy one.
Bosh.

hp mini wireless keyboard

hey you all,
I just bought this keyboard from frys for $39 for my media center pc. It has a built in scrolling track pad on the top right. it is about the same length as the gtab. when i plug it into the gtab, keys work but mouse does not. my gtab is still in stock form so mouse may work with all the great roms here.
If you don't have frys around, amazon still have it for $36. just search for hp mini wireless keyboard. there are two type one has a track ball and the one i have has a mouse sensor-like pad.
Mouse cursor isn't enabled on many roms. The only one I know of for gTabs is CyangogenMod.
good to know. maybe i'll try CyangogenMod when i'm brave enough.
I can also confirm that the mouse works on Vegan Beta 2. I was using it last night to play Angry Birds...
dingoberries said:
hey you all,
I just bought this keyboard from frys for $39 for my media center pc. It has a built in scrolling track pad on the top right. it is about the same length as the gtab. when i plug it into the gtab, keys work but mouse does not. my gtab is still in stock form so mouse may work with all the great roms here.
If you don't have frys around, amazon still have it for $36. just search for hp mini wireless keyboard. there are two type one has a track ball and the one i have has a mouse sensor-like pad.
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That is absolutely CRAZY... I had the same keyboard in my hand yesterday then put it back and thought I'd hold off only to have 'non-buyers' remorse later. Of all the smaller keyboards that one looked the nicest and had the mini usb connector so it doesn't stick out too much.
Guess I'll be stopping on the way home
I was hesitant to buy it too, until I realize it uses AA batteries. I have so much of those lying around.
For those interested, the keyboard has a slight angle where the batteries are held at the top, but the rest of the keyboard are like 2-3 mm thhttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon9.gifin. Receiver is tiny and can be stored away at the battery compartment.
@KnightCrusader
I was testing the batteries life of my new toy so i decided to install that game, and that stupid birds cost me a whole night sleep.
Question -- I'm only getting 97% charged and light is green. Any of you all get this too?
Logitech Wii Keyboard works great!
I bought this for websurfing on my Wii and never even opened the box. Decided to try it out yesterday on the G-Tab and it rocks.
You can grab one from amazon for 20.00
Usb attachment stores in the back of the keyboard which is nice. Uses 2 AA batteries.
No mouse pad or pointer built in but as a keyboard its great.
Wondering if it can connect through bluetooth like a Wiimote as it has that option. If someone figures that out please let me know. Connecting it through bluetooth would be even cooler than wireless usb!
Cycle the Battery
dingoberries said:
Question -- I'm only getting 97% charged and light is green. Any of you all get this too?
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Try cycling the battery, i.e. run the tablet until it drops, charge it to green+30 minutes, then do it again. Should be ok then. (BTW, it took me over two days to discharge the battery in my gtab, but if you play Angry Birds, you might be able to do it in a day. ).
With my worst Croc Dundee voice:
That is not a mini keyboard, THIS is a mini keyboard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9811255&postcount=13
@mark
Doing the complete cycling now. Stupid tab takes too long to drain.
@rushless
that is not a mini, more like a micro but I do like it. I just need something easier to type and compose with.
hp micro keyboard with gtablet
-Check the review with pic of the HP micro u10g wireless keyboard at bettertoysthanbatman dot com. Works great with my gtab running cyanogen 7.0.0 beta 05. Exact same width as gtab.
Sorry, not allowed to post a clickable link yet.
Cycling the battery didn't work for me. Tried wiping battery data w/CWM. Worked for a while (got to 100%) more often than not but have not really noticed any depreciable run time loss. Using vegan beta1. HTH
I found that my logitect demini works with the gtab
Bought the hp mini wireless keyboard and it works great. The keyboard is simple, stylish, and feels solid. It is about the same length as the gtab and about 4" deep. This keyboard would also be great for an HTPC as well as it has an integrated mouse. The mouse doesn't do anything on the gtab however.
Some of the function keys on the keyboard actually do stuff to the gtab like volume up and down, and screen lock. I mostly plan to use the keyboard in meetings if I have to take notes.
Bought it at Staples in Canada for $40.
I am running Calkulin+Clemsyn3-OC/UV.
poymeister said:
Bought the hp mini wireless keyboard and it works great. The keyboard is simple, stylish, and feels solid. It is about the same length as the gtab and about 4" deep. This keyboard would also be great for an HTPC as well as it has an integrated mouse. The mouse doesn't do anything on the gtab however.
Some of the function keys on the keyboard actually do stuff to the gtab like volume up and down, and screen lock. I mostly plan to use the keyboard in meetings if I have to take notes.
Bought it at Staples in Canada for $40.
I am running Calkulin+Clemsyn3-OC/UV.
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Depends what rom your running. Vegan shows a mouse cursor and includes various shortcut buttons (home = fn+home button, esc = back, windows button= options)
I use a mini-usb GearHead keyboard with a multi-touch touchpad. I've tried it with a couple TnT varients and now with VEGAn 5.1.1 and it works great and the touchpad works for pinch-to-zoom as well. It shows up as a crosshair (not an arrow style cursor).
My only complaint about this keyboard is that it doesn't have a "shift" key on the right side.
I wonder if HP multimedia is still available?
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I bought this for websurfing on my Wii and never even opened the box. Decided to try it out yesterday on the G-Tab and it rocks.
You can grab one from amazon for 20.00
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Is that it ?
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wii-Cordless-Keyboard-Nintendo/dp/B001D1HCF6
not $20 though.
For completeness :
The HP mini
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ils?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1303334611&sr=1-1&seller=
The Gear Head Smart Touch Mini
http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Touch-M...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1303334542&sr=1-2

Dock or no dock?

Currently I just have the tablet and have been thinking about buying the keyboard dock.
Is it worth $130? I currently have a laptop here at school, along with a desktop, and my tablet. My brother thinks it would be dumb to get the keyboard dock, because I would essentially have 3 computers.
Opinions?
I've heard people say that once you use the dock, you "almost" forget about using your other options. I just got my wife a TF101 and the dock for Valentine's Day and she doesn't want to use the tablet without the dock. I plan on picking up a dock for my Transformer soon because after playing with hers, I definitely need to have one. Hope that helps but at the end of the day, it's your decision and your wallet that's being affected.
I got both..
The question is
Is this replacing your laptop? If so i would say get a dock.. Its easier for me to type with the dock.. I only have it out the dock when going outside or gaming.
Other plus is the battery in the dock.
Just my 2cents.
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i thought i will get the dock play with it for a week and leave and idont its one of the best buys i had and consider the fact that here is costs 250 us dollars
ifind the dock a very good replacement for my other 2 laptops first of all its quite smaller than a mini laptop so its great for me to carry around
second the battery is awesome im working with it almost every day all day and the battery never died
even when im browsing the internet listening to music and downloading torrents
the time here is 18:20 right now im using it since around 4:30 i have 74 battery on dock
also it supports a few games so it nice to play with it
there are also 2 usb ports for DOK or xbox controller or ps3 controller for gaming
even some 3g dongles are supported
i pesonally find the dock one of the best buys for me
now it up for you to decide
p.s sorry for writing too much lol
You can never have enough computers
I bought the dock three days ago and am very pleased with it.
Typing is faster than the onscreen keyboard and battery life has doubled.
I also use it as a stand, so I don't have to use a case as a stand.
not sure if this has been answered before but can the dock charge other thing through usb like say a phone
i had the tablet for about 3 months without the dock and loved it. I got it about 2 months ago and its awesome. great build quality, battery is great, you can plug just about anything usb into it, thumb/hard drives, wireless mice, etc.
you wont use your laptop except to burn dvd's.
Hell, its great even to have as a charging station, its so easy to take on and off.
If you've got the money to spend, you wont regret it.
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not sure if this has been answered before but can the dock charge other thing through usb like say a phone
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yes, when the tablet is on the dock it will charge phones etc.
if you remove the tablet it becomes useless, except to charge itself.
I agree with the other posters; the dock rocks! I use my tablet pretty much exclusively with the dock. With it the Transformer can easily replace a laptop.
One advantage I haven't seen mentioned yet (at least in this thread) is the dock also protects the tablet's screen, when they are folded together.
Hermit, when the transformer is folded into the keyboard dock, is it secured by some mechanism?
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Hermit, when the transformer is folded into the keyboard dock, is it secured by some mechanism?
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its kinda like spring loaded. Its a very firm hold, it doesn't flap around or anything.
If thats what you mean,
if your talking about how the tf attaches to the dock, then there are two hooks on the dock that lock into the bottom of the tf. then you have to slide the switch over to get it out. again very secure and firm.
Get the dock! I bought tablet alone at first but after a two months I decided to get the dock - and it changed the whole game! More juice, easier typing when needed, usb ports, card reader, even (rom based) 3g dongle!
Deffinetely go for it!
BTW - since I got TF (and the dock later) I didn't touched my laptop more than few times!
Bought it yesterday and got it today (F'yeah Amazon Prime)
It's awesome! I don't know why I have a laptop now >_<
dock is really awesome
it looks and feels amazing with tab attached to it! and battery life is incredible
I have to agree with everyone's comments about the dock - and as to "replacing" or having an extra computer......I have a dual screen I7, TF101, a hand me down Toshiba Tecra running as a home server, and a now dead Asus Slate (still trying to fix).
I have a Dell Studio XPS laptop that always overheats and runs out of battery way too fast. It's great and all but not practical for school use. I don't get much time near a charger so it's annoying to lug around a dead laptop.
I bought the tf in my first semester of college and absolutely adored it. I used it for everything and used it all day to bring it home with still 60-70% charge. 6 months later I bought the dock and it's just the cherry on top. It works beautifully, it's small, it's fast, it does everything I need it to do (Web surfing, music, study, gaming) and last days without charging (Doesn't heat up at all, only a little tiny bit when charging)
My laptop now stays at home as my webserver as an alternative to buying another desktop.
It's all up to you if you're going to use it enough to pay the $130 for the dock.
I just got the dock yesterday and have to say, it is very nice indeed.. I have a question though.
How do the little doors/flaps hold up for the USB connectors? They seem a bit flimsy and I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with those?
Get the dock.
The Transformer is only as good as the other offerings (Xoom/Tab/iPad) without it. With it, it's the best tablet on the market bar none...
Sell one of your laptops to fund it
Just to echo what everyone else is saying,
When I first saw the TF at I think it was CES (or MWC) last year, I thought it was just another android tablet. Its got a keyboard? Great, iPad has stuff like that too, so whatever.
But then my friend got one in the summer AND IT FOLDS UP LIKE A LAPTOP?! Sold! AND ITS A BATTERY?! AND A TRACKPAD?! USB PORTS?!
Needless to say, I was incredulous. The keyboard I think is what sets it apart from everything else on the market (save the prime). You can have your galaxy tabs and your xooms and xyboards - have fun typing on them. Not to mention all the function keys along the top row with shortcuts for the browser, settings, volume, brightness, probably some other stuff.
And it probably wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to throw a sizable SD into the dock to supplement your storage.
I wouldn't wait a second to buy the dock. Best addition to a tab ever. So much easier to type and the screen is protected during travel. Only downside is the additional $$$ really.
The extra battery life alone makes the dock worth it. Since getting the dock, I've put my Macbook pro up for sale and am just using my tablet (use my media pc for everything else).
One thing I wish is that the trackpad worked more like a real mouse (ie. when you're trying to drag something on the screen (to select text or drag the screen of a flash window). Right now it just acts as though you are touching the screen with your finger. It's still a lot better though. I find myself using the touchscreen more than the trackpad though (unless I need to make more precise touches).
I have no regrets of getting the dock.
Be warned though, if you let the battery in the dock completely die, you will need to plug it into a 5V power adapter to get the tablet to communicate properly with the dock's battery (will show up as 0% even if it's fully charged). I just plug my USB cable into my USB-110V adapter for my blackberry for a few seconds and it's good to go again.

Bluetooth mouse

As a regular trackball user on desktops, I've been looking for a Bluetooth one to go with the Tablet S to give me a bit more precision for tasks like text editing. Unfortunately apart from one very hard to source and expensive Mac targeted device my search has been fruitless.
I finally bit the bullet and ordered a mouse and would just like to recommend Dell's mini 5 button Bluetooth travel mouse.
It's length is just under half the screen height of the Tablet and is black/silver, so slightly smaller than a regular mouse and matches the tablet well. Using 2 AA batteries it paired straight away and only requires about an inch of movement for the pointer to traverse the whole screen. It also wakes the tablet up on movement. Scroll wheel works but the browser back & forward and right mouse button don't. If anyone has any tips for an app that would allow for these buttons that would be great but otherwise picked up for less than £20 I'm a happy bunny.
Cool. The ones I have used require a USB plug in.
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Cool. The ones I have used require a USB plug in.
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Tthere are others without usb recievers but i read on another forum if u use it u cant use sony's bluetooth keyboard simultaneously is that true?
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Tthere are others without usb recievers but i read on another forum if u use it u cant use sony's bluetooth keyboard simultaneously is that true?
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Not sure I'm afraid, the on screen keyboard is good enough for my young slender fingers.
If it's a multiple bluetooth device issue I'll try it out with my PS3 controller tonight and see if both work together.
Here's the mouse anyway.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-Blueto...8DRC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329987831&sr=8-1
Well there's no problems talking to 2 bluetooth devices at the same time. But can't vouch for a keyboard I'm afraid.

Cheap DeX dock alternative

Hi,
Just wanted to let you guys know about this dock that I picked up from aliexpress.
The build quality is awesome, it is all metal. Feels really solid and it works in the same way the the actual DeX stations do.
I've attached a couple of images of the product and one of my review.
The current cost is USD $13.71 GBP £10.26 and that includes postage from China, mine turned up in a week and a half, really happy with it.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/EAS...893.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6d9f4c4d3EQZa8
It works in the same way as the original DeX does, you cannot use your screen as a trackpad and must connect a wireless/usb mouse and keyboard. I haven't tried it with a USB hub yet but I imagine it would work as it is powered via your USB-C phone charger. Using my GS9 original charger it allows passthrough fast charging whilst using the dock. You can also use it for standard screen mirroring rather than DeX mode.
With the experimental labs mode enabled (in DeX settings, which appears when connected) to allow you to scale most windows up to full screen. The only one I have found which doesn't go fullscreen is netflix. Things like PUBG mobile (only opened app to see if it works, you would need an app to remap keyboard keys to play a match), Youtube, Terrarium TV etc all work fine. The option for sound output via phone/connected hdmi device works.
If you have any questions or need me to try something out on it for you, please let me know.
There are some more expensive versions with more USB ports and 3.5mm audio out - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/EAS...-9e13-2ca171f3bfbb,scm-url:1007.13339.90158.0 - These are £29.91 (USD $39.98)
Nice. Do you need to remove the phone from the case or is the usb-c connector long enough? Just curious.
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Nice. Do you need to remove the phone from the case or is the usb-c connector long enough? Just curious.
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I did have to remove it from the case. I am using the Caseology Parallax which isn't overly thick (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Caseology-...-2&keywords=caseology+parallax+galaxy+s9&th=1 / https://www.caseologycases.com/products/galaxy-s9-parallax-case).
I don't see it as too much of an inconvenience, as when you are using the dock it is likely that you won't be leaving your desk/living/wherever for a while.
Thanks, I will keep it in mind. I bought one off Amazon that had a sale that I found on Slickdeals. It's the XF Times one and it was on sale for $8 so I took a gamble on it. It's working well at the moment but if it breaks, I will look at the one you posted. I already saved it to my Favorites.
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Thanks, I will keep it in mind. I bought one off Amazon that had a sale that I found on Slickdeals. It's the XF Times one and it was on sale for $8 so I took a gamble on it. It's working well at the moment but if it breaks, I will look at the one you posted. I already saved it to my Favorites.
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Ah, that looks similar actually. I've never really looked on Amazon for them. I wasn't really looking to buy this one, I was just browsing Aliexpress and decided to actually order something on there rather than just browsing for ages and deciding against it. I picked up a couple of cases and watch straps too, it's too easy to buy things when they are so cheap!
My cheap DeX dock works fine
Only problem is, it doesn't charge the phone. The dock requires USB power also. Without power, it just mirrors the phone screen. So I just charge the phone in the morning and it would go all day on DeX if I wanted. However, I usually get up and go to meetings and such, so I end up taking the S9 with me. When I get back, I will typically top off the charge again before plugging back into DeX. I have a DeX setup at work with monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and I also have one at home. I just take the little dock with me and keep it in my backpack. They are so cheap, I really should just buy another one to keep one at both places.
If I don't plug in a mouse, I can use the phone as a touchpad. If I do plug in a mouse, the touchpad functionality doesn't work. Which is fine; just an observation.
tonylmiller said:
Only problem is, it doesn't charge the phone. The dock requires USB power also. Without power, it just mirrors the phone screen. So I just charge the phone in the morning and it would go all day on DeX if I wanted. However, I usually get up and go to meetings and such, so I end up taking the S9 with me. When I get back, I will typically top off the charge again before plugging back into DeX. I have a DeX setup at work with monitor, keyboard, and mouse, and I also have one at home. I just take the little dock with me and keep it in my backpack. They are so cheap, I really should just buy another one to keep one at both places.
If I don't plug in a mouse, I can use the phone as a touchpad. If I do plug in a mouse, the touchpad functionality doesn't work. Which is fine; just an observation.
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Hi,
I hadn't even tried it without the wireless keyboard attached as I foolishly assumed it wouldn't work with this dock. I've just tried it and thanks for the tip it works great as a touchpad!
I just carry a spare USB-C lead with me when I need it, it even manages to fast charge.
One thing I will note is that the connection has become a bit hit and miss on this, I don't know whether that is build quality or because the dock USB-C connector has taken a knock when I have been carrying it around. I still think that I can't really complain for what it cost me.
Yeah, I figured the touchpad function wouldn't work because it is not a Samsung dock. But it still does if you don't use any other input devices.
Just to clarify this dock puts the S9 into the actual DEX mode, not some sort of "similar" app?
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Just to clarify this dock puts the S9 into the actual DEX mode, not some sort of "similar" app?
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Hi Cookie,
Yeah, this gives actual DeX mode :good:. There are loads of similar products about on Amazon/Ebay but I went for this as it was a cheap addition to an Aliexpress haul.
dnmrt said:
Hi Cookie,
Yeah, this gives actual DeX mode :good:. There are loads of similar products about on Amazon/Ebay but I went for this as it was a cheap addition to an Aliexpress haul.
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Thanks, I found this one that will hopefully work:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074ZP5Q51
Mine arrived today, fast post ! Works great in DeX mode, thanks OP
cookiemonster79 said:
Thanks, I found this one that will hopefully work:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074ZP5Q51
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I got Goodock one, overall it worked pretty good but it does randomly disconnect from time to time (very quickly, it doesn't even leave DeX mode). I am using a HDMI to VGA adapter in my setup, I doubt it is the reason for disconnects but you never know.
I wrote a review in the S9+ accessories area:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ock-usb-c-to-hdmi-adapter-dex-review-t3796766
cookiemonster79 said:
I got Goodock one, overall it worked pretty good but it does randomly disconnect from time to time (very quickly, it doesn't even leave DeX mode). I am using a HDMI to VGA adapter in my setup, I doubt it is the reason for disconnects but you never know.
I wrote a review in the S9+ accessories area:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ock-usb-c-to-hdmi-adapter-dex-review-t3796766
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How often do you find yourself using it? I think I have only used mine 2/3 times but I like knowing it is there if I need it.
dnmrt said:
How often do you find yourself using it? I think I have only used mine 2/3 times but I like knowing it is there if I need it.
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Honestly maybe once a week. Hard to break the habit of just firing up a laptop.
Can this work with a non Samsung Android?
Is there/ shouldnt there be a generic/ stock Android alternative for the same?
This is nice but better connect a computer from other room to tv and bring cable through the wall for wireless mouse too there if it's for home.
I recommend this.
I use this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78991064&postcount=388
I use this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Green-Cell-Adapter-Delivery-smartphones/dp/B07D9L8S73

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