Now that ICS has been released i have a few questions for current Mediapad owners that hopefully will help me decide if want to get one
1) I know that the mediapad is not the benchmark leader, do games like "temple run" and "wind up knight" run smoothly on it?
2) Is the native android SIP (internet calling) enabled in the final ICS version?
3) I read a lot of complaint out the touchscreen sensitivity. Has it been fixed in the latest ICS build?
4) How the web browser?
5) When you connect your mediapad through the HDMI out, how is the picture quality?
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
clubtech said:
Now that ICS has been released i have a few questions for current Mediapad owners that hopefully will help me decide if want to get one
1) I know that the mediapad is not the benchmark leader, do games like "temple run" and "wind up knight" run smoothly on it?
2) Is the native android SIP (internet calling) enabled in the final ICS version?
3) I read a lot of complaint out the touchscreen sensitivity. Has it been fixed in the latest ICS build?
4) How the web browser?
5) When you connect your mediapad through the HDMI out, how is the picture quality?
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
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1) yes.
2) no. At least it isn't exposed in the Huawei native phone app.
3) still the same, at least compared to the last beta build. Not really a problem though. But the jitter is more pronounced in high resolution setting (basically it will set the dpi to low, thus would look like 10" tablet scaled to 7"... Everything is smaller).
4) never encountered any problem. You can also use other browser like Dolphin and it would also be accelerated (basically Dolphin runs very smooth in ICS vs laggish in Galaxy Note).
5) looks low resolution (unless for portrait apps). So basically the same as previous build. I haven't use HC, so I don't know how much better it supposed to be, but compared to Galaxy Note, the note have better image quality but everything run more sluggish when using HDMI compared to mediapad which run very smooth but at lower resolution (and probably lower color depth also?).
1) I know that the mediapad is not the benchmark leader, do games like "temple run" and "wind up knight" run smoothly on it?
2) Is the native android SIP (internet calling) enabled in the final ICS version?
3) I read a lot of complaint out the touchscreen sensitivity. Has it been fixed in the latest ICS build?
4) How the web browser?
5) When you connect your mediapad through the HDMI out, how is the picture quality?
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1. Never mind the benchmarks, everything I've thrown at it runs smoothly (the likes of GTA III, DeadSpace, Shadowgun, Six Guns, and so on).
2. The client is not included.
3. I'm using hi-res mode and don't have any problems or annoyances.
4. I'm using Opera and it works great. Stock one is not causing any trouble either.
5. Not tested yet. Sorry.
Thanks guys!
For the screen issue, does it mean yo sometimes have to tap twice on items when using high res mode?
I also read on some forum that there are issued with Skype video on the latest release. Con someone confirm?
I will download the system files and see how to enable the native SIP client. It is normally a setting in the framework-Res.apk file.
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clubtech said:
Thanks guys!
For the screen issue, does it mean yo sometimes have to tap twice on items when using high res mode?
I also read on some forum that there are issued with Skype video on the latest release. Con someone confirm?
I will download the system files and see how to enable the native SIP client. It is normally a setting in the framework-Res.apk file.
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As long as you have steady hand/finger while tapping and light touch then it shouldn't be a problem. The biggest annoyance is when you play something that need steady aim like angry birds and shooting games (contract killer or other games that you basically need to hold your finger at the screen steadily) because it will be jittery. It isn't that you can't play it, but it definitely add an extra challenge to the game. Skype issue is mostly on the skype itself. I haven't tested it yet (on the official build), but I read in skype forum that some other ICS devices also have this green video problem.
For the screen issue, does it mean yo sometimes have to tap twice on items when using high res mode?
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Not at all. However, everything is about half (two thirds maybe) the size when in hi-res, so if you have (very) large hands it might be a problem. Like rurou said "like 10" tablet scaled to 7""...
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Hi Leo Users,
I am considering buying this phone but I need to see how well it handles in android.
Can someone post a video using one of the most recent and more working roms? I want to get an idea of how well it goes.
1. What is currently not supported on the leo?
2. Does all of its ram get ported in android or does it use only a smaller part?
3. What about the camera? Is the camera app using the camera to it's full potential?
4. Video playback? Does it play hd?
5. Is a nand installation of android possible?
Thank you!
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Hi Leo Users,
I am considering buying this phone but I need to see how well it handles in android.
Can someone post a video using one of the most recent and more working roms? I want to get an idea of how well it goes.
1. What is currently not supported on the leo?
2. Does all of its ram get ported in android or does it use only a smaller part?
3. What about the camera? Is the camera app using the camera to it's full potential?
4. Video playback? Does it play hd?
5. Is a nand installation of android possible?
Thank you!
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1. For each Android distro out there it says in its own topic what's working and what it is not. I know it can't record video in HD 720p.
2. As far as I know, Android uses all available RAM.
3. There are still some issues with the camera, mostly because improvements are still made to native Android phones. I doubt you will use the camera like that. I don't consider it a low point.
4. Video playback is really good and it also plays HD. I tried with some Youtube HD videos and they were ok. Haven't tried with a computer encoded fully fledged HD. I know that there are video players on Android Market that can play all Xvid encoded videos out of the box. Just copy it on the SD card and you are set.
5. At this moment, NAND installation is not possible. There were some major improvements done and I think it will be possible to be functional at some point.
6. I would add the fact that HD2 can run a lot of Android flavors because it can launch them from within WinMobile. This is something you can never achieve with a native Android phone.
7. Battery drainage is still heavy. Every day something new is discovered on how to improve battery life.
I see you own a Wildfire. HD2 is a lot better that it. I read it on a Romanian tech blog, an editor made a comparison between native Android phones and HD2.
Hello all,
As maybe some know, Adobe's Flash player in Android has a feature. The object doesn't activate if it is not in focus (or maybe touched?). This seems to be a security or battery performance related improvement as Adobe puts it.. However, it is really annoying.. Because;
You can't listen to most of the radio stations, or playlists even, if you send them to background. I love to listen to some of my favorite music while reading the daily news.. As many other have pointed out in the following threads:
Thread ID: 854896, 672639, 543354, 489142
I am writing this question here, as this is an Android Flash player implementation issue and this behaviour is by design. There may be many ways to modify the Flash player, or modify the browser to make the Flash Player act as if it is in the foreground even if it is not..
So can anyone work on this? Or maybe we can submit some kind of CR to CyanogenMod issue list? Better yet, how can we submit this problem to Adobe's developers/designers?
Or maybe a hacker has already read this and has solved it already
Thanks a lot..
Maybe this works on other (Sense?) phones, but I know this worked on my 3.29 stock rooted Evo. In the browser you can hit menu > windows and then open a new window, and then close the new window. Now you will still be in the windows view, but are "hovering" above the window you have your Flash content in. Now you should be able to hit the home button and do other things.
I would suggest just using a real music player/radio app.....
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I would suggest just using a real music player/radio app.....
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x2... I think most, (if not all) standalone music/radio apps will run happily along in the background.
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x2... I think most, (if not all) standalone music/radio apps will run happily along in the background.
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True, but most (if not all) standalone music/radio apps won't play arbitrary flash content online.
I know somebody who likes to listen to a particular TV program, and typically networks only make these available via flash. I'm sure if he works at it he can extract the audio on a computer or find it on a torrent or something, but it would be nice if this were at least an option.
Of course, compared to a normal app I imagine it would suck down a lot more power.
I've found a way to have a Flash webpage running on the background without needing to hack Flash Player on ICS. I stumbled across an unadvertised "feature" of the Dual Screen Browser app by Curry Cat v2.1.
All you have to do is launch the Dual Screen browser, do a google search for the flash web page you want, and once the audio starts playing just hit the OS Home button and the audio keeps playing in the background. It blew my mind.
The device I got this working on is a stock ASUS Transformer TF101 w/ ICS (v4.0.3)
Dual Screen Browser has a bunch of FC and seems to be heavily reliant on the stock browser some how. If you get FC when trying to launch it try the following:
Open stock Browser, press OS Home button, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Turn internet connection off, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Dual Screen Browser appears to be better optimized for flash/html5 video playback in portrait mode. I had two flash videos playing at the same time on each screen without much of a performance hit.
When in landscape mode pick the left most screen. It plays movies better without cutting off part of it.
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I've found a way to have a Flash webpage running on the background without needing to hack Flash Player on ICS. I stumbled across an unadvertised "feature" of the Dual Screen Browser app by Curry Cat v2.1.
All you have to do is launch the Dual Screen browser, do a google search for the flash web page you want, and once the audio starts playing just hit the OS Home button and the audio keeps playing in the background. It blew my mind.
The device I got this working on is a stock ASUS Transformer TF101 w/ ICS (v4.0.3)
Dual Screen Browser has a bunch of FC and seems to be heavily reliant on the stock browser some how. If you get FC when trying to launch it try the following:
Open stock Browser, press OS Home button, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Turn internet connection off, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Dual Screen Browser appears to be better optimized for flash/html5 video playback in portrait mode. I had two flash videos playing at the same time on each screen without much of a performance hit.
When in landscape mode pick the left most screen. It plays movies better without cutting off part of it.
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Wow, I even forgot that I asked this question. But your solution seems very promising. Well, I'd still like to see HTML5 work in the background to (for the obvious reason that I want to play a youtube playlist while screen off ) Well if I'd have to install a separate app, I think there are other players that does this already.
Thanks anyways.. (Sorry for the late response)
I am using "nextvid" to play youtube videos on the backgroud, no need for hacking it does it by default( free app)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=Nextvid.mobile.player&hl=pt_PT
After months of pondering about buying a cheap, but highly rated Android tablet, I took a plunge and bought Viewsonic gtabs, Android 2.2, from tigerdirect.com. Turns out a smart decision! Me & my family love the gtabs, our first, without having to spend double the cost for more expensive Android tablets or iPad. Nice gadgets, at a cheap price. I wish it has hdmi port though. But these are mainly for my kids, to play and to learn, so no hdmi is not a major issue.
Anyhow, I flashed one of gtabs to Gtabcomb Beta 3.3, from my stock TapNTap ROM. I love the speed and performance of Comb, but I currently have the following issues with the Comb:
- Can't play most youtube HD clips in big screen like the stock ROM. I was able to play a few, and compare both side by side, the stock video is more smooth, and better resolution, and in bigger screen.
- Can't play flash on starfall.com, like the stock ROM. Since the gtabs are for my kids, this is a major disappointment.
- Netflix resolution doesn't look good as when played on stock ROM gtab.
- stock camera app doesn't work anymore.
Do you have the same issues with Gtabcomb Beta 3.3 version? I assume a fix is coming soon with new Gtabcomb version?
Thanks to those who spend time on developing this 3.3 version, and sharing steps and experience. Great job!
If video is so important, I would recomend sticking with a Froyo rom since they are the only ones with true, full hardware acceleration. If it's the HC launcher you really like, maybe give the VTL or ADW launchers a try.
Huge thread over in the Android Development forum
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The HD video issue is due to the lack of a hardware acceleration in Honeycomb roms. The camera is a known issue and is listed as a known issue in the Gtabcomb thread in the download post. Flash doesn't work in the stock browser but if you download Opera Mobile it should work fine. Not sure aabout the Netflix issue (I don't have Netflix) but it may be related to the no hardware acceleration issue.
Great ROM though, I just flashed it installed it last night myself. Do yourself a favor and replace the keyboard with Thumb Keyboard, you won't regret it.
Yes, HC is a good ROM, very fast. But said, youtube video playback isn't as smooth as clear as the stock 2.2 ROM. I can't play starfall.com (can you try out to see if it works on your gtab or not? ) either, even though i can play flash enabled embedded video clip inside CNN.com.
I currently have 1 in VEGAn-TAB, and 1 in HC. Both work pretty well, but I like the HC better, as it's faster.
I waiting for a new release to fix the smooth video issue and the flash issue. Until then, I love my gtab with HC.
Thx.
I use Opera browser to play flash sites like starfall.com. Works fine. The stock browser just plays sound with no video. I believe this is a known issue.
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Yes, HC is a good ROM, very fast. But said, youtube video playback isn't as smooth as clear as the stock 2.2 ROM. I can't play starfall.com (can you try out to see if it works on your gtab or not? ) either, even though i can play flash enabled embedded video clip inside CNN.com.
I currently have 1 in VEGAn-TAB, and 1 in HC. Both work pretty well, but I like the HC better, as it's faster.
I waiting for a new release to fix the smooth video issue and the flash issue. Until then, I love my gtab with HC.
Thx.
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Could you run a quick HW acceleration test on both tablets and let us know:
http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/
My PC, firefox ----------> 60+ fps.
My gtab, HC alpha -----> 4 fps.
Thanks
I got 6fps using firefox beta on gtabcomb 3.3
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I just ran it on a Gtab with Opera on Brilliant Corners 1.2.1 w/ Pershoots latest and got 6fps as well.
nvanlaar said:
I got 6fps using firefox beta on gtabcomb 3.3
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Screen Orientation and other issues
I installed the GtabComb 3.3 today. Everything works fine except the following:
1. Screen orientation does not change when I rotate the tab. It's stuck in landscape mode. There is no auto-rotate option in Settings, which is weird. I see only brightness, animation, timeout and screenshot in Screen Settings. I'm using the default launcher.
2. Flash videos only play the audio part, no video
Does anyone know the fix for any of these? Thanks a lot!
the screen orentation is probably turned on in the settings causeing the rotation lock as for flash it will not play in the stock browser try opra mobile hope this helps
You guys realize there is a huge thread on this rom already in the development section
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Autorotation issue Fixed
I managed to find why my screen orientation was fixed. There is an option called 'lock screen orientation' near the time on the home screen. I changed it to OFF and the screen now autorotates. Hope this helps someone!
I installed this rom too and it is OK for me. Very smooth and fast. Thanks to zyhong!
I installed this rom yesterday after nvflash my g tablet; download when ok after reboot i experience to many force close, flash not playing well camara as well. browser and the rest of the rom it's working just fine
I got the following:
- 13fps for the stock browser
- 18fps for my HP EliteBook 8440p, Chrome
- Opera Mobile: very slow starting the test program. It got stuck at, "How fast is your browser?" for a long time, ~few minutes. When it starts, it is just sitting there at..."Working..."
I've been using Opera Mobile the past few weeks. it works great and fast. Not sure what the issue is.
One app that doesn't work right is the Ants Smasher. On the VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition STABLE RC1 ROM on my 1st gtab, it works fine and nice, in big screen. On my 2nd GTabcomb 3.3 Beta gtab, the app launches and works, but in very small screen.
Do you have the same issue?
BTW, starfall.com's flash does work for me now on my Gtabcomb 3.3. Using it to read books with my kids...Yay! Very happy on that. Now, if the youtube HD video/Netflix playback issue gets fixed on gtabcomb 3.3, ie, it plays smooth and in big screen, that would be awesome!!! Netflix works fine, but not as smooth as the stock Android 2.2 (when I initially got it on my gtabs).
I'm currently running GtabComb and all is well except for known honeycomb issues. Anyone that wants to apply a logo where the small "android" text is at boot. I have a thread at slatedroid in Gtablet theme section.I have a bunch of different logos to choose from and all you need is clockworkmod installed.Each logo is in its own update.zip file that can be loaded like any rom, but it only loads image.Strangely it speeds up boot time and doesn't sit for long time like it does at the "android" text..I haven't figured out why yet but is a pleasant bonus.
I would post a link but I am new here and have to wait.
igorv said:
I'm currently running GtabComb and all is well except for known honeycomb issues. Anyone that wants to apply a logo where the small "android" text is at boot. I have a thread at slatedroid in Gtablet theme section.I have a bunch of different logos to choose from and all you need is clockworkmod installed.Each logo is in its own update.zip file that can be loaded like any rom, but it only loads image.Strangely it speeds up boot time and doesn't sit for long time like it does at the "android" text..I haven't figured out why yet but is a pleasant bonus.
I would post a link but I am new here and have to wait.
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http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/20807-boot-logos-replace-2nd-logo-flashable-with-cwm/page__p__217961__fromsearch__1#entry217961
I've used your logos for both my first and second startup screens thanks for the good work
kdnguyen said:
After months of pondering about buying a cheap, but highly rated Android tablet, I took a plunge and bought Viewsonic gtabs, Android 2.2, from tigerdirect.com. Turns out a smart decision! Me & my family love the gtabs, our first, without having to spend double the cost for more expensive Android tablets or iPad. Nice gadgets, at a cheap price. I wish it has hdmi port though. But these are mainly for my kids, to play and to learn, so no hdmi is not a major issue.
Anyhow, I flashed one of gtabs to Gtabcomb Beta 3.3, from my stock TapNTap ROM. I love the speed and performance of Comb, but I currently have the following issues with the Comb:
- Can't play most youtube HD clips in big screen like the stock ROM. I was able to play a few, and compare both side by side, the stock video is more smooth, and better resolution, and in bigger screen.
- Can't play flash on starfall.com, like the stock ROM. Since the gtabs are for my kids, this is a major disappointment.
- Netflix resolution doesn't look good as when played on stock ROM gtab.
- stock camera app doesn't work anymore.
Do you have the same issues with Gtabcomb Beta 3.3 version? I assume a fix is coming soon with new Gtabcomb version?
Thanks to those who spend time on developing this 3.3 version, and sharing steps and experience. Great job!
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didnt u even read the known issue list?
Updated my tab to the ICS update that was linked in the general forum prior to the mediapad gettings its own forum (hurrah).
Was hoping that the tab will be blazing fast after the update, sadly don't see much of an improvement.
However the big issue is some apps are dog slow, or refuse tow work. If you have any problems with apps with the update please list and tell if you know of resolution.
Let me start.
1. ezPDF reader - Takes ages to load a PDF after the update. Rendering is very very slow.
2. Adobe PDF reader - Fast than ezPDF, but still the rendering is slower. I was expecting the 2D rendering performance to improve with ICS, but sadly no luck.
3. Browsers are very slow. Though the benchmarks might be different, the actual page load times are now slower with the native browser and on dolphin HD.
2. The very useful feature that showed running apps, and recent used apps is now missing, and you have the generic list of apps
All the adobe apps like touch, proto etc. They hang on a black screen.
Latest copilot live just fc.
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Amazon Kindle (v3.3 & up) not working: all books content (text & graphic) is blank.
(it's working on ICS Beta prior this leak)
Now using old v3.2 & working well (but of course, font is less pretty & no pdf support).
1. Google Play keeps restarting
2. Google Play has issues handling multiple threads (loading an app detail screen while several apps are being updated, results in lost connection errors)
Not sure if the Google Play problems are related to ICS or the device.
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Not sure if the Google Play problems are related to ICS or the device.
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Perhaps the device. Mine has been working just fine.
Quickoffice Pro HD doesn't work. I had purchased/installed it for Springboard on 3.2, but after going to 4.0.3 it was not listed in My Apps when I go to Google Play on the tablet. When going to Google Play on my PC, the app shows up as installed - but with a note that it is incompatible with all of my devices.
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Quickoffice Pro HD doesn't work. I had purchased/installed it for Springboard on 3.2, but after going to 4.0.3 it was not listed in My Apps when I go to Google Play on the tablet. When going to Google Play on my PC, the app shows up as installed - but with a note that it is incompatible with all of my devices.
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Try setting the screen to high resolution and I'd bet that you will be able to install the app.
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Try setting the screen to high resolution and I'd bet that you will be able to install the app.
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Good thought - I had tried that but no luck.
I was able to get Swype keyboard to install by going to high resolution, where it had previously not worked due to incompatible resolution.
Zinio isn't working for me.. App works but the magazines are just rendered as black pages.
Put SketchBook Pro on the list, fc on start.
Additionally:
* Autodesk SketchBook Express - does not start
even if there is a statement on playstore page "√ Now runs on Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Optimized for screen sizes 7 inches and greater."
* Navfree - blackscreen on startup (was fine on HC)
HDMI out - working, but the picture looks like a low resolution upscaled to a higher resoution.. also, when the cable is connected before enabling the HDMI output function, you need to disconnect and reconnect.. otherwise you'll get no picture at all..
tried this with HC 3.2 (B016) on the same device, with same cable/TV (Sony Bravia KDL-40W4000), and the picture looks great (like a real HD 720p/1080p resolution).. also you don't need to reconnect the cable..
EDIT: tested on two more LCD TV's..
Sony Bravia 37" (full hd) - the picture doesn't display at all.. it only blinks for a split second...
Philips 32" (hd) - the picture is displayed, but it's the same as described above with the KDL-40W4000
EDIT 27.3.2012: tested with the latest International version S7-301u_V100R002C002B008, and it's still the same :\
EDIT 29.3.2012: tested with PC monitor.. based on the information that the information menu of the monitor provides, that standar output is 640x480, which si far from HD/FULL HD .. and maybe that's the reason why it looks so ugly on most TVs..
but.. when the HDMI output is changed in the hidden menu (description here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23862818&postcount=5 ) the resolution was 720x480...
Gameboid - only showing the top row of pixels.
What a bummer... I want to play pokemon.
EDIT: Turns out its all GBA emulators. DroidEmu has the same issue.
Foxit Reader crashes when loading a PDF. Once a PDF file is selected it shows its processing for around 1-2 sec and then crashes.
Netflix
Looks like Netflix isn't working with the new ROM. I get the opening screen where I pick a movie but when it starts to play I just get a black screen. Maybe this is a DRM issue not sure but it sucks.
Kirby
Update netflix is working like a charm with this latest ROM.
I watch a lot of live streams of starcraft 2 from twitch tv. However, I noticed that the quality is so poor. You can only choose low or medium as quality options on my note.
I also have an HP touchpad and it has CM9 nightly on it. Twitch TV app works better on there. It has low, medium, high, Ultra options.
I'm just wondering why I don't have an option for High or Ultra for my note. Unfortunately, there are no options/settings for this app.
Is it because the HP TP is considered a tablet, giving more quality options? Or is because the TP has a lower resolution compared to the note?
Is there a way to hack the app to have better quality options for the note? BTW, both devices are connected to my wireless router (FIOS 45down / 35up).
EDIT: I'm on GB, using the unofficial with v6 script and yes, if I got directly go to the browser (flash based twitch.tv), I can stream to 1080p without a hitch.
Thanks
I experienced the same thing on my note using GB. I did install ICS and do have the high and ultra settings. I am assuming its a GB related issue. Installing one of the ICS roms will get you the High/Ultra quality options.
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I experienced the same thing on my note using GB. I did install ICS and do have the high and ultra settings. I am assuming its a GB related issue. Installing one of the ICS roms will get you the High/Ultra quality options.
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Got it. Too bad MX player has issues on ICS for me (subtitles sync issue). I use both apps heavily (twitch tv and mx player).
Decisions decisions ..
thanks man!