Is it possible for us to get the global version that has the quad core procesor in it or is it simply incompatable for use in hte states?
That processor doesn't work with LTE. Hence the dual core s4 in the US versions. I have seen some news that a quad core that is US LTE compatiblt is in testing. I forget if it was qualcomm or nvidia, I really don't follow or understand processor level stuff much at all.
And please clarify, who is "us"? You mean "us" in the States, or "us" on Sprint?
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sry bout that, Us on sprin and the states. seems like other countries get great stuff while were left in the dust. "we" as in sprint and the states ;-)
Tregrad said:
sry bout that, Us on sprin and the states. seems like other countries get great stuff while were left in the dust. "we" as in sprint and the states ;-)
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The dual core has been shown to supersede the quad core tetra on many tests during normal usage, so don't feel left out. I prefer our processor from what I've seen and read.
I think the quad core version is also GSM.. So you might be able to unlock it and use it with T-Mobile or AT&T, but that would be on 3G only.
I'm hearing that evo 4g lte will not be easy to unlock. Does this mean we will not be able to root it right of the bat?
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I think the quad core version is also GSM.. So you might be able to unlock it and use it with T-Mobile or AT&T, but that would be on 3G only.
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There is no 'quad-core' version of the EVO 4G LTE....yes its a lot like the OneX on ATT but still a different device....hence the different forum for it....
if there is going to be a gsm version of the device then it will come from HTC.....but thats very doubtful as HTC is trying to try its line for the year and stick to small # of phones except for when US carriers have specific demands like Sprint has done with the EVO here...
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I'm hearing that evo 4g lte will not be easy to unlock. Does this mean we will not be able to root it right of the bat?
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I don't see why we wouldn't be able to use HTC's unlock?
Either way I wouldn't worry too much about it, there is always someone saying new phones are unrootable and they're always proven wrong
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I don't see why we wouldn't be able to use HTC's unlock?
Either way I wouldn't worry too much about it, there is always someone saying new phones are unrootable and they're always proven wrong
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I agree, but I think he's referring to the fact the the ATT version of the One X can't use HTC's official bootloader unlock tool. From what I heard though, this had more to do with ATT than it did with HTC.
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Sure seems that way! Can't wait to get this phone and can't wait for the devs to get this done.
Wish I could help. I am a programmer but I mostly only use .NET at work. I have done some android app dev but only on the app side. I figure the learning curve to find root exploits is pretty steep.
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I agree, but I think he's referring to the fact the the ATT version of the One X can't use HTC's official bootloader unlock tool. From what I heard though, this had more to do with ATT than it did with HTC.
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Correct, AT&T specifically forbade HTC from allowing One X users from using the unlock tool.
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That's at&t stopping the unlock not htc if I'm not mistaken
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That's at&t stopping the unlock not htc if I'm not mistaken
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You are correct. HTC clearly said this isn't our doing. This is AT&T.
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Just carrying on the tradition from the Flip DHD thread started by junta, some of us who will move to the EVO 3D GSM can post and share information here...
I for one can't wait
I'm almost certain. I'll buy it as soon as it hits US/UK shores.
That makes 2 of us buddy!
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If its even real. HTC said there's no gsm version, but has it on there site.
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If its even real. HTC said there's no gsm version, but has it on there site.
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It's no longer a myth my friend.
HTC EVO 3D GSM Capable goes official
Seems we're off to a rough start ey Red?
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Seems we're off to a rough start ey Red?
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Looks like it. People are probably thinking there's the CDMA EVO 3D only.
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Looks like it. People are probably thinking there's the CDMA EVO 3D only.
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That's understandable... but this brings HTC's newest wonder to more people around the world. Which will make support and development even better
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That's understandable... but this brings HTC's newest wonder to more people around the world. Which will make support and development even better
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I hope it will be just the same (or even more) with the DHD case; lots of modified ROMs to choose from and very healthy community.
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I hope it will be just the same (or even more) with the DHD case; lots of modified ROMs to choose from and very healthy community.
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True... a lot of potential with this one I think I'd be okay with just root for a while with the new OS and Sense version... we'll probably talk about accessories for the most part since battery is more than enough on a non 4g network.
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True... a lot of potential with this one I think I'd be okay with just root for a while with the new OS and Sense version... we'll probably talk about accessories for the most part since battery is more than enough on a non 4g network.
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I hope 1730mAh will be enough for a 1.2Ghz twin processor.
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I hope 1720mAh will be enough for a 1.2Ghz twin processor.
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Dual core is more battery efficient as you wont be stressing a single core with all your tasks.
The htc page doesn't say anything about GSM. It USED to, but it was obviously a mistype, considering it was changed to WCDMA 1-2 hours later. And now the specs page is completely gone.
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The htc page doesn't say anything about GSM. It USED to, but it was obviously a mistype, considering it was changed to WCDMA 1-2 hours later. And now the specs page is completely gone.
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Dude, again if have read the first few posts then you will know.
HTC EVO 3D GSM capable goes official
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Dude, again if have read the first few posts then you will know.
HTC EVO 3D GSM capable goes official
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again, read the source. Its pointing to the htc specs page. As I mentioned, the specs page was wrong. When it was first posted it said GSM/WCDMA/LTE/WIMAX. But 1-2 hours after that, it was modified and changed to WCDMA only.
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again, read the source. Its pointing to the htc specs page. As I mentioned, the specs page was wrong. When it was first posted it said GSM/WCDMA/LTE/WIMAX. But 1-2 hours after that, it was modified and changed to WCDMA only.
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I'm sure this will all be straightened out by HTC soon enough and we'll just see when it finally comes out...
If it turns out to be true, then the plan moves forward and we'll get one as soon as its released. If not, then we still have our DHDs to play with ;-)
Are you just proving the source inaccurate or you're one'a them fellas who don't wanna keep their hopes up?
Update: A pocketnow article kind of confirmed your statement though still aren't convinced that its entirely a mistake.
m.pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-gsm-version-has-been-hiding-in-plain-sight
For what its worth, it may still be under negotiation but if the GSM version wont carry the EVO name, it'll sure be released in a different brand seeing that the flyer (global) was just rebranded to carry the name EVO...
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proving the source inaccurate. I wouldn't mind it to be gsm, more developers for the phone, but just saying what I saw on their site.
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proving the source inaccurate. I wouldn't mind it to be gsm, more developers for the phone, but just saying what I saw on their site.
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I see, IMO pre release sources may go either way until the final release itself. We just have to keep posting new information here to keep tabs on the new monster EVO...
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i dont think they will release a gsm version of this, i think the phone that we all been waiting for is the second generation of Desire HD.. which, i think, will be called Desire HD-S, and will release sometime on "ber" months.
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proving the source inaccurate. I wouldn't mind it to be gsm, more developers for the phone, but just saying what I saw on their site.
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In all probability,HTC PYramid will be the GSM version of HTC Evo 3d....but really this phone deserves a GSM version,i am due for a new android{using N1 for over a year now} in May.
LG Optimus 2X & SGS 2 are already launching here{India} next month,i hope this one gets a GSM version.
Just got off phone with Motorola and they confirmed the Photon has a LTE chip installed! I called sprint and they said it didn't. Somebodies lying, my bet is sprint.
My guess is that the Motorola rep is confusing that for 4G in general. I highly doubt the Photon has LTE.
Now, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it does, but I imagine that would have been in the FCC certification.
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I bet Motorola is lying... Because they want you to buy their product.
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I highly doubt this, but my buddy works at the mobile division in Libertyville IL (My town! Woot woot Google! ) and he works on the development of the LED flash for all the phones cameras. Im sure he will have insight about this, ill post back what he says.
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
I doubt they would have added an expensive piece of hardware just for the heck of it. The fact that it isn't touted as a feature to"future proof" the phone leads me to assume it isn't there.
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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The hole in that thought is the matrix is on ATT(GSM) which is different from VZW in more ways then one.
The VZW references is due to the you can roam in VZW and a possible launch of the phone on VZW.
It seems that this phone has a lot of Q's surronding the radio freq's it uses so we are going to need to find a good tear down and look to that for answers.
Ok so in case people didn't know, LTE uses sim cards for the 4G. But it can't be in the photon, sprint wont have it for some time.
My buddy at Motorola replied to me "wimax". So I guess its not LTE ready and that moto rep is misunderstanding that sprints 4g is different. After all, this is the first moto android phone on sprint
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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All I can say is the Photon is Built like a brick shi%house
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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If that's the case why aren't you on Verizon?
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period. There is no argument here, find it for yourself. Sprint will have LTE but not for awhile, as for the Photon working on it, who knows, but I am damn sure that it is capable of it. If you are asking a Sprint Rep any questions about a phone, 97.38782% of them don't know much about them, yes there are a few who actually do their homework on each and every phone they come across but that is few and far between. ( And in case you work at Sprint and you are reading this, don't take it personal, I'm just saying that most reps sell phones, they don't study them and know them inside and out) As for Motorola, who knows, it all depends on who you talk to, but I would believe one of them over a random Sprint rep who 'sells' phones for a living, being that Motorola actually built the thing.
But all you really need to do is plug it in and look for yourself.
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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Now that is interesting indeed
It just might have a LTE radio. Maybe Sprint's plans are starting to show up in current and future phones? Here is an excerpt:
If Sprint were to tap into Clearwire’s LTE network it wouldn’t gain any additional coverage beyond its current 4G footprint. It would gain additional capacity, but it would come at a price. Since Clearwire’s LTE wouldn’t even cover existing WiMAX markets completely, Sprint will need to deploy dual-mode WiMAX and LTE devices. That’s already a tall order for device makers, but Clearwire is using an unpaired spectrum configuration for LTE, meaning Sprint will need LTE chips not only for Clearwire’s 2.5 GHz frequencies but in a time-division duplexing (TDD) mode that no other operator uses in the U.S.
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You can read the whole article here: http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/sprints-4g-predicament-0823/index.html
Maybe Sprint actually has a 4g plan?
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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There may be some logic to this from Moto perspective...
It 4g and it a world phone...it suports cdma and gsm...
But is it also the first "4g" "world phone"? having both wimax and LTE ?(you got the sim like verzion LTE phones need)
So for Moto one hardward build for all world markets...and would also make it one hell of a development phone for google android to test everything on
Would the EVO 3d and Samsung Galaxy 2 people crap if true....
A phone with all these radios cdma, gsm, wimax and LTE would be hacker heaven
Who knows could be source of unlocked 4g issues that just the Photon seem to have ... that bootstrap has an extra radio to set up
===One other thing I recall Sprints Touch pro 2 "world phone" was not certified for GSM by FCC for US so radios were not listed on FCC doc...but it had them
Other thing in all the Photon "tear down" ive seen...ive never seen the chips because of how the lable sits in the battey compartment covers the chips...you would need to destroy the phone to see
Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
That fn sucks
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Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
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Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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If the gms is the same as in the states, yep...
I think you're lost...wrong forum
Jaquarry said:
If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
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Found that out the hard way a long time ago
Tmobile has changed a lot, they are just flat turning into thieves with a business license now. Never switch to a carrier just for the devices they can run, that is just plain not smart, at all.
I am not trying to be offensive, I do have your best interest in mind. With how fast devices are pushed out, there will be one that is better and what you want in 6 months time. So it doesn't make sense to move to a carrier for the phones. You will just get yourself locked into some contract that (Tmobile especially) keeps updating to strip more freedom and cost to to you.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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Double check on the actual bands it supports; 3G especially considering the fact that tmob uses their own 3G unlike most other GSM carriers.
Aka it should work fine... BUT it might be stuck on EDGE at all times. Not cool.
First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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Hmm, so what will be next? They must have a big plan. I can't wait for some news.
Sounds like definitely plan to start making their own phones. Come on Motorola nexus!!!!!!
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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You would be absoutly correct, Google and Larry Page could care less about Motorola or a cell phone. What they do care about is the 6000 (or is it 16,000?) patents that Motorola owns! Right now, Apple is sueing everyone for infringements, thats getting read to change real fast!!!
I dont know if you guys know this, Motorola was around L-O-N-G before Sammy, HTC, Apple, Noika, all of them. They held all these patents but never really enforced them for whatever reason. If you remember, Apple went after Motorola with its Lawyer Goons with this Paten crap. I guess Motorola did not have the balls to fight, but Larry Page has bigger Goons! F**k, motorola has patent on the old bag phone of the late 80's! So if they every come back........
Correct - this is all about now owning patents.
Means little or nothing about current phones.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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lol
by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
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First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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i couldn't agree with you more. i am really looking forward to having ics... either by update of by unlocked bootloader and flashing cm9
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
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by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Boost?
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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I guess that could be real possible. If I remember right they use Sprint's towers.
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
I hope I'm wrong but I really doubt this will affect prior devices like the Photon, Atrix, etc.
I can imagine future devices having prompt updates, perhaps vanilla android, but seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
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Expecting ICS sooner is unrealistic. Expecting unlocked bootloaders for existing phones so we can do it ourselves is another matter entirely.
As far as carrier approval goes, remember that there's a fundamental difference culturally between Motorola and Google. Motorola wouldn't even contemplate releasing an unlocker unless the carriers demanded and paid for it. Google will have its lawyers read the sales & maintenance contract it has with the carriers, and do it anyway as long as there's no clause in that contract explicitly prohibiting them from doing it.
In practical terms, that probably means Sprint and T-Mobile will have official unlockers within weeks, and AT&T & Verizon will never get them. However, I'll bet there will be some VERY interesting tidbits of info in the Sprint unlockers that might prove useful to someone at XDA trying to write one for a Verizon phone... ;-)
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Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
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as long add they unlock my bootloader so i can have a blurless ics rom i think id be pretty dang happy at least until jellybean comes out lol
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
tnx
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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tnx for the info... im going to look into it i still have 6 months before my contract with sprint will end.so i still have a lot of time to figure this out
Well its the 24 and still not a word from big red... Has anyone tried any version on Verizon network? International/sprint//tmobile anything at all. This feels just like the note og release for me
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Well its the 24 and still not a word from big red... Has anyone tried any version on Verizon network? International/sprint//tmobile anything at all. This feels just like the note og release for me
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If it's not released, how would somebody use that version...
LordRalh3, Other versions won't work on Verizon's network...
computingwarren, People got their hands on it at the NYC event last night.
Comp.... The same way people use the international version in the us, or the tmobile on att... I wasn't asking if someone had the Verizon version.
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Comp.... The same way people use the international version in the us, or the tmobile on att... I wasn't asking if someone had the Verizon version.
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Again, how are they going to use a GSM device on Verizon? Verizon is a CDMA network primarily, with LTE being the only type of GSM service they have. Unless you have some magic radio dust, you need to a VZW device to use VZW's network.
Oh so trolling me means the cdma versions released dont apply? The n7100 and 7105 are not the only note 2s, i got it, if you havent something to add thats helpfull then dont post please.
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Oh so trolling me means the cdma versions released dont apply? The n7100 and 7105 are not the only note 2s, i got it, if you havent something to add thats helpfull then dont post please.
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So, you want to know who has tried the Note II on Verizon? Unless you are a device tester, no one has used the Note II on Verizon's network. Yes, we could go out and try a T-Mobile Note II, but I can't see anyone on VZW spending $650 for an unlocked international version when it won't work on VZW's network.
Maybe you should realize that you're posting in a VERIZON ONLY forum and asking people their opinion's on GSM devices that have a snowball's chance in hell of working on Verizon's network before you start complaining about responses you're getting.
I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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LordRalh3 said:
I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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I feel like you have no clue what you're asking. Just keep babbling.
Im not feeding you trolls anymore, google it yourself, shv-e250....3 models
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LordRalh3 said:
I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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You really have no idea how VZW's network works do you? If you can't get a Sprint LTE device to work on VZW, how do you think you're going to get an international version working? Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean it will work. If that was the case, why aren't people using AT&T or Sprint Note II's on VZW? Or one of the many other LTE capable phones out there that are available? The reason is because you can't. It won't work, and even if they did support the same protocols and frequencies, you would need to know someone that has access to backend VZW systems that would be willing to risk their job for you to even hope at getting it to work.
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You really have no idea how VZW's network works do you? If you can't get a Sprint LTE device to work on VZW, how do you think you're going to get an international version working? Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean it will work. If that was the case, why aren't people using AT&T or Sprint Note II's on VZW? Or one of the many other LTE capable phones out there that are available? The reason is because you can't. It won't work, and even if they did support the same protocols and frequencies, you would need to know someone that has access to backend VZW systems that would be willing to risk their job for you to even hope at getting it to work.
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lol some people are just fools who will never understand the concept of how the networks really work out there. If it really worked, hell people would be going to one dealer to get it $50 cheaper like AT&T has, and then just using it with their unlimited data on Verizon.
You guys are morons, i am NOT TALKING ABOUT ONLY GSM i am also talking about the cdma korean versions, ever heard of cdma workshop? How bout unlocking? For being on xda you are kinda out of it. Ive gotten my answer thank you, two of these versions DO work according to pms iv gotten from people that live or travel to/from south korea where guess what they use CDMA. Only in the us do carriers stop you from using a boughten phone on another network.
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Yeah, we're all idiots and have no idea what we're talking about. Care to tell me how they got the ESN into VZW's database? How are they authenticating and using the LTE network, or even using the CDMA network properly? Probably by doing stuff that is less than legal, or they know people that not many others do. And if it's so easy to do, don't you think that people would be importing the international versions frequently rather than getting bloated Verizon versions? Then again, we're all just idiots, so wtf would we know.
sprints version should be able to work on Verizon, they are both cdma+lte with global capabilities... I know they could since sprint and Verizon roam of each other just like AT&T and T-Mobile do and unlocked gsm phones work on AT&T and T-Mobile all you should have to do is unlock a sprint version
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sprints version should be able to work on Verizon, they are both cdma+lte with global capabilities... I know they could since sprint and Verizon roam of each other just like AT&T and T-Mobile do and unlocked gsm phones work on AT&T and T-Mobile all you should have to do is unlock a sprint version
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Sprint doesn't use the same LTE frequency, and you wouldn't be able to get the phone's ESN info in VZW's database. This is why I've been saying you have to get a VZW version to use on VZW.
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Yeah, we're all idiots and have no idea what we're talking about. Care to tell me how they got the ESN into VZW's database? How are they authenticating and using the LTE network, or even using the CDMA network properly? Probably by doing stuff that is less than legal, or they know people that not many others do. And if it's so easy to do, don't you think that people would be importing the international versions frequently rather than getting bloated Verizon versions? Then again, we're all just idiots, so wtf would we know.
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To be a recognized dev you really are trolling pretty badly. The dude asked if anyone had gotten another Note2 to work on verizon. We are all very happy you understand the policy behind the scenes of getting the device onto the network. There are plenty of people who do have connections within Verizon that could possibly have set it up to make it happen. I'm sure you know all about chipsets and network bands so I'm sure you understand it is completely within the realm of the possible that it happened. Don't bust on the guy for asking a question.
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To be a recognized dev you really are trolling pretty badly. The dude asked if anyone had gotten another Note2 to work on verizon. We are all very happy you understand the policy behind the scenes of getting the device onto the network. There are plenty of people who do have connections within Verizon that could possibly have set it up to make it happen. I'm sure you know all about chipsets and network bands so I'm sure you understand it is completely within the realm of the possible that it happened. Don't bust on the guy for asking a question.
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Would you risk your job to put a friend's Note 2 from another carrier in the system just so they could use the network? I imagine there are some very heavy restrictions on adding new devices to the database, with pretty heavy consequences if you're just adding stuff for fun. Is it possible to make it happen? Yes, it is. Is it likely to happen? No, and I doubt if you did get someone to add the phone info, they wouldn't want you to go around posting about it everywhere.
Given the likelihood is next to zero for knowing someone with the access to do this, being able to buy a non-VZW phone with the proper radio frequencies that isn't a VZW specific device, and then getting said person to add said device to the network, I don't get why the thread was started to begin with. I know of people that have tried to get Sprint CDMA only devices on VZW's network, and even that is a venture in futility, so I can't imagine how you expect to get an LTE Note II from a non-US carrier to work.
Also, you people need to learn what trolling is, as I wouldn't consider any of my posts in this thread to be trolling. I'm stating facts as to why what the OP is asking is extremely unlikely and near impossible. Trolling rarely is factual. Maybe you could say I'm a troll if I came here posting "OMG, I'm using it on VZW's network right now and it's the best thing since sliced French Bread", but I'm not.
So it is possible
It was just a question (in the Q&A section no less) looking for like minded people to respond
Trolling is responding without addressing the topic or in this case answering the question, which was what you did.... repeatedly.
I'm only responding because I would expect much more in a response from a developer. Leave the negativity and the can't do attitude to someone else.
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So it is possible
It was just a question (in the Q&A section no less) looking for like minded people to respond
Trolling is responding without addressing the topic or in this case answering the question, which was what you did.... repeatedly.
I'm only responding because I would expect much more in a response from a developer. Leave the negativity and the can't do attitude to someone else.
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You have no clue what trolling means.