I've been trying to get myself to justify a decision of which phone to upgrade to. I've been with evo since the very first batch of OG's and i'v always been indifferent towards Samsung.
At first glance I thought i'd go with the gs3 because of its sleek design and removable battery, but after dissecting it a bit, something about it just isn't as appealing to me anymore.
If I buy the LTE on the other hand I feel that i'll regret it a lot. While it is a great phone in many aspects, it is severely flawed in just as many important ones.
It's the first android phone EVER to not have a removable battery and the bootloader is as locked as ever. While these two things may be easily overlooked by some of you, I feel that any true Android fan would be torn on going with any phone from HTC's new line of ONE/EVO's just based on principle alone. Not that I have anything against it, but I just can't be the guy who buys the "next HTC Android phone" just because it's the "next HTC Android phone". When a company is blatantly disregarding the consumer I find it hard to support them.
How many times have we ragged on Apple for not including a removable battery? How many times do we brag about having an "open" operating system? How many times do we glorify our expandable memory (referring to the ONE line of phones here)? How in the hell do you not question HTC's motives at this point guys?
you can check my stats, i'v been with HTC since day one...LITERALLY. Since the G1 came out i'v been an HTC user...but come on now.
End rant. lol
I just got my hopes up for the sgs3 announcement (strangely) and thought i'd have an alternative to the LTE but low and behold...
I don't know about you guys, but the evolutionary cycle of Android seems to be taking a turn for the worst. All of the phone manufacturers are completely disregarding consumer feedback and are focusing on more processing speed in order to fool the masses into thinking that more processors equates to "better performance"... I hate to say this, but I feel they are even fooling a lot of you "tech-savvy" folks here at XDA into think we need more than 2 cores on a 4 inch phone...Same thing goes for size. How in the world are 4.7/4.8 inches becoming the standard? I thought 4.3 was the biggest justifiable size as a standard, but I guess not...Say what you want about apple, but at least they realize that a phone is a phone and a tablet is a tablet. (p.s I hate them more than most of you sooooooo)
i don't know if i'm just severely sleep deprived or what, but this is the first time that i'v EVER been "Anti-Android".
End rant 2.
Anyways, back to studying for finals!
Motorola Photon Q. There's your answer. And my 2¢ on your problem..
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Motorola Photon Q. There's your answer. And my 2¢ on your problem..
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It may very well be sir.
I never would have considered Motorola in the past, but things have changed. If HTC and Samsung are complete screw ups, I don't see were else to turn...
I like how you're first post on XDA is in my thread. I'm honored.
Why did you make it seem like the open source goodness of Android is going away?
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Also your wrong moto has no removable batt and locked bootloader for sure check some facts..... Also no sd card after playing with a nexus isn't a huge deal one less thing I have to pay for if it goes bad I have a 3tb HDD I put backups on so yeah
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Why did you make it seem like the open source goodness of Android is going away?
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I meant to imply that HTC's method of locking bootloaders completely goes against Android's open source goodness.
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Also your wrong moto has no removable batt and locked bootloader for sure check some facts.....
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I never said it did, lol...
I hadn't even heard of it until the guy mentioned it. I google'd it but found no specs..It hasn't even been officially announced yet from what I read so I don't know how you know otherwise.
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I never said it did, lol...
I hadn't even heard of it until the guy mentioned it. I google'd it but found no specs..It hasn't even been officially announced yet from what I read so I don't know how you know otherwise.
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You said its the first with locked bootloader and no removable battery:...... The raze was what I was talking about deff razr maxx....
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Also no sd card after playing with a nexus isn't a huge deal one less thing I have to pay for if it goes bad I have a 3tb HDD I put backups on so yeah
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That's pretty debatable. In fact i'm willing to bet my life that the majority of Android users would argue against you.
Phones are evolving into "mini computers". Computers are not meant to have limited memory.
Also removing features like expandable memory is completely pointless.
If you read my post, I was trying to show that HTC has been very questionable lately. You may not mind not having expandable memory, but how would you justify HTC's decision to do that?
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.2 hight .15 width.... Difference
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You said its the first with locked bootloader and no removable battery:...... The raze was what I was talking about deff razr maxx....
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"It may very well be sir.
I never would have considered Motorola in the past, but things have changed. If HTC and Samsung are complete screw ups, I don't see were else to turn...
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That's all that was said by me regarding the photon.
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134.36 mm (5.290 in) H 69.9 mm (2.75 in) W 8.9 mm (0.35 in) D size of one x
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You are confusing me
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You are confusing me
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Everyone is making it seem like the new phones are monsters with the big screens when they are not much bigger then the current phones with smaller screens... Least with over all dimensions...
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And I agree to a point about the storage thing however anyone who is a tech person knows one should always have backups no matter what and if they don't give you the option to expand then needs bigger internal space... But like I said sd card is just one more piece that fails don't get me wrong it is a nice option but i think it isn't totally needed....besides that is something else the battery has to power n everyone wants a weeks worth of battery out of a phone lol
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One X m8, easy decision.
The galaxy s 3, is still going to be a samsung, probably going to be able to cook an egg on it for being as thin as a razor with a quad in it.
I'd allow a little while before i signed up to that m8, the advertising is going to be epic for it tho, but like i said i'd allow it for a little while, let it get in the public domain b4 picking one up.
Wouldn't know about the evo LTE.
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One X m8, easy decision.
The galaxy s 3, is still going to be a samsung, probably going to be able to cook an egg on it for being as thin as a razor with a quad in it.
I'd allow a little while before i signed up to that m8, the advertising is going to be epic for it tho, but like i said i'd allow it for a little while, let it get in the public domain b4 picking one up.
Wouldn't know about the evo LTE.
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If by epic you mean hippie **** sure haha
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Everyone is making it seem like the new phones are monsters with the big screens when they are not much bigger then the current phones with smaller screens... Least with over all dimensions...
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Ohhhhh lol. I was like wth are these dimensions for?
I personally don't mind having the bigger screens, it just doesn't make sense for that to become the standard on all Android phones.
When the OG Evo came out I thought it was on the larger size, but for me it was ideal because of my hands. I never envisioned 5inch phones would become an Android standard though. I see the purpose of the Galaxy Note, but other than that it just doesn't make sense to me.
We have 7-10 inch tablets. Why do we need such a ridiculous amount of screen space on a phone. I hate to refer back to Apple, but they have a much more flourishing app market than us and they've maintained a sub 4inch screen size. Like I said though, I think 4-4.3 inch would be a pretty ideal standard.
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And I agree to a point about the storage thing however anyone who is a tech person knows one should always have backups no matter what and if they don't give you the option to expand then needs bigger internal space... But like I said sd card is just one more piece that fails don't get me wrong it is a nice option but i think it isn't totally needed....besides that is something else the battery has to power n everyone wants a weeks worth of battery out of a phone lol
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Yeah I agree 100% about having back-ups and what not.
But the principle behind releasing a "new phone" with less features doesn't appeal to me. And I highly doubt that HTC opted with not included an SD card because they were concerned with battery life.
If we were to judge usefulness of cell-phone features i'd say expandable memory is just as important as a camera. While we can debate that forever, it's my opinion because I use my sd card a lot. Much more than my camera in fact....I can't be the only one.
I also use my phone as my main media driver, whether it be music or movies, I use a lot of storage.
I wouldn't mind streaming everything since I have unlimited data and can buy spare batteries for $10 on ebay....oh wait.
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One X m8, easy decision.
The galaxy s 3, is still going to be a samsung, probably going to be able to cook an egg on it for being as thin as a razor with a quad in it.
I'd allow a little while before i signed up to that m8, the advertising is going to be epic for it tho, but like i said i'd allow it for a little while, let it get in the public domain b4 picking one up.
Wouldn't know about the evo LTE.
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The One X is out of the question for me because I'm with sprint...Even if I wasn't, i'd prefer the LTE over it any day.
I just re-read my OP and dam do I sound like a b!*#! lol.
Don't be made at me, XDA is the only thing that can keep me entertained throughout the night while studying.
All of my opinions still hold though.
I think what i'm fishing for is somebody to convince me to get the LTE because I really need a new gadget to play with.
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I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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Even if HTC were to discontinue the phone today it's still a 1.5ghz dual core 4G phone. The SGS2 is pretty much identical in specs. If the phones are so similar and the Amaze is no longer in production but the SGS2 is, then is the Amze "obsolete?" Your definition of obsolete must be different than mine.
+1. ^^^
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im sorry, i used a poor choice of words. i was in a hurry when i wrote this. By obsolete i meant that htc will not be supporting us and will stop sellin the phone.
With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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With the second generation dual core and first generation quad cores on the horizon. Not to mention the big hardware specification push, it is/will be soon obsolete. Does that make it irrelevant, no.. Hell computers are obsolete before you buy them for the most part. Just live with and enjoy your device...
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I agree. You have a two year contract when you purchase a phone with a discount. Who here thinks that T-Mobile shouldn't start offering new phones before your two year contract expires? Seriously! The phone has been out for what... three, four months now? I would say that's pretty good actually. Don't worry about the phone itself though. You still have a 1 year warranty which will still be honored should you require service. It's still a powerhouse of a phone and we're expecting an update here very soon. So... what's the problem? You guys are acting like it's the damn G1.
You know to be honest I was expecting a better phone to come out about a month after ours did. I'm surprised that it didn't. But I'm saying this to people that are suprised that in this day and technological age your phone is old and outdated before you can manage to buy accessories for it. Just look at it this way... iphone fans are constantly being screwed by Apple and their yearly releases! You wait in line overnight to buy the new iphone 4GS or whatever and nine months later Apple teases you with the new iphone 4GS2 for a super low price of $600 because you're still on contract. Else they can wait for another year for the release of the iphone 5 or whatever. It's a sales gimmick and that's all there is to it. Yet you guys are surpised to see this with HTC? Naive I think.
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
xManMythLegend said:
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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Samsung devices don't have to be worried about a locked bootloader either.
xManMythLegend said:
Only thing you need to worry about is awful Dev support.
Im sorry I like XB and the others but this phone has just about zero Rom selection compared to SGS2 and other phones. Nothing even close to a workable ICS build.
The phone itself is fantastic mostly due to the camera , HW isnt what you should be worried about.
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i dont see any progress on the sgs2 tmo version im further then them
Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Don't worry be happy. Is just a phone!
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Just a phone?? Watcha you mouth!
And.....you managed to get that damn song stuck in my head.
Yes its not the end of the world its just HTC Saying ok we aren't making the phone anymore tmobile n HTC aren't going to blow u off if u have a issue with it.
They are not going to make the phone anymore because of what's on the horizon. I say in about a month or two we will see a new HTC tmobile phone.
with ICS "wink"
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I'm hearing everywhere that the phone will be obsolete in a couple of months. I'm scared I might get out dated when I just bought this phone like 1 months ago. Should I get rid of it and get a sgs2 while I still can or what should I do?
Thank you for reading this.
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samsung has horrible support for their phones, except for ones running vanilla android, they are incredibly slow when it comes to pushing out os updates, im almost certain htc will give us a stable ics before samsung does with the sgs2
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It might be "just a phone" but I paid a large chunk of cash for my phone and I don't like getting screwed over by Google.......not to mention Apple's bait & switch marketing.
Smartphones "smart" once you find out your phone will be semi-obsolete as is the case here with Google trying to tell software & hardware developers what to do.
stefnuts
All of this is true but don't you all feel that the htc amaze is a bad phone? You can't have a case because you lose WiFi signal, you have to put electrical tape on the back of the phone to prevent the flash from messing up your pictures at night, the haptic key light bleeds in the screen, the faceplate on the back creaks really loud when putting pressure. I did not pay over 600 for a phone to have so many problems.
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T-mo news did post an article stating that the amaze 4g is reaching "end-of-life" and will he discontinued soon. This may lower our chance of getting more dev support, but let's be thankful for who we do have which is some great developers like xboarder, faux, and now nrg... Just have patience, soom good stuff is going to be coming to us in the near future, we just need to wait. No one has a perfectly running ICS with no bugs we arent far behind guys we will have what we want soon
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I do not see why it is such a big deal they won't be producing htc amaze anymore(if that is true). anyway even the htc ville we are expecting to come out in march or the samsung bliss, they have nothing special, same dual core cpu, same speed + the camera that the amaze has is one of the best in the market. So I find all this "worried about my amaze" a little too exaggerated. and yes it is just a phone, if you are concerned just go sell it back and buy a new one when it comes out. hope your worries about the htc amaze do not keep you from living a normal life...extra stress is never good
I love my Amaze. I knew about the "flaws" before I bought it. To my amazement, it's better than I thought and read about. I fortunately do not have the creaking back cover(there's a fix), Wi-Fi range is awesome even with a case, GPS locks in seconds even inside the house, battery life last all day, awesome ROMs available (thank you devs, you know who you are, lol) the list goes on. My 0.02
In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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In my room I have 1 - 2 bars of WiFi
With the case off I get full 4, pretty annoying
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what case do you have?
If the Sprint variant gets LTE, it's a done deal, if not then the next EVO for me
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Not me but only because of a lack of disposable income, love of kickstands and Sense.
Does it have an SD Card slot?
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Official specs say no SD card slot. Travesty.
My contract with sprint is up in a couple of months I'm definitely getting it16gb is more than enough for me....
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Would get one but i doubt if Google is gonna play in CDMA land again. Blame Verizon for that.....
Ew........LG.
No thanks.
not me... me and LG phones are like oil and water....
HTC EVO LTE
I wouldn't jump ship to that. It doesn't even have LTE.
No LTE, no sd card slot, LG, not a very good upgrade in my opinion. Seems like manufacturers are moving backwards. I understand their reasoning for no lte, it more of a world phone that way, but definitely a backwards step in terms of missing features.
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No LTE, no sd card slot, LG, not a very good upgrade in my opinion. Seems like manufacturers are moving backwards. I understand their reasoning for no lte, it more of a world phone that way, but definitely a backwards step in terms of missing features.
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Depending on your area, T-Mobiles "4G" (HSPA+) is just as fast in the real world as LTE, especially from Sprint. Not a killer imo.
$300 superphone phone off contract? That is not moving backwards.
Personally Im not going anywhere due to this ol' contract of mine. But if they keep this up, switching to T-Mobile and $30 a month bill with a $300 superphone sounds really freaking great to me. Will have to see what it looks like next year though.
Im totally with you on the SD card though, that is a bummer.
Just my opinion, but I don't see it as a superphone. To others it might be.
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Just my opinion, but I don't see it as a superphone. To others it might be.
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I understand you having an opinion, but being how this is the internet, and I disagree with it, I feel obligated to try and change your opinion to my way of thinking, even though I know it to be a fruitless endeavor.
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The Nexus 4 runs a quad core S4 (with Adreno 320, not our stopgap 225), 2 gigs ram, 720p RGP Stripe screen , bluetooth 4.0, USB host, and all the sensors you could want, plus built in inductive charging.
How is that not a superphone? It outspecs/ties anything on the market, certainly anything based on the S4 Plus like our EVOs, and I still consider my phone to be a superphone. If storage is such a concern, bring a thumbdrive with you for your offline media, it doesnt change the fact that the guts of the phone are the best you can find on the market shy of the Nexus 10.
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Just my opinion, but I don't see it as a superphone. To others it might be.
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I don't like it but it does qualify as a Superphone , no question.
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I understand you having an opinion, but being how this is the internet, and I disagree with it, I feel obligated to try and change your opinion to my way of thinking, even though I know it to be a fruitless endeavor.
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The Nexus 4 runs a quad core S4 (with Adreno 320, not our stopgap 225), 2 gigs ram, 720p RGP Stripe screen , bluetooth 4.0, USB host, and all the sensors you could want, plus built in inductive charging.
How is that not a superphone? It outspecs/ties anything on the market, certainly anything based on the S4 Plus like our EVOs, and I still consider my phone to be a superphone. If storage is such a concern, bring a thumbdrive with you for your offline media, it doesnt change the fact that the guts of the phone are the best you can find on the market shy of the Nexus 10.
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I can see your point, I'll concede that as far as specs specs go it is a superphone. My own requirements for what should be in a phone is where I based my opinion. I can't really disagree with you though.
Yeah, but again, no LTE?!? Really?
Even my wife's LG Viper has it.
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Yeah, but again, no LTE?!? Really?
Even my wife's LG Viper has it.
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Google is getting dumb with hardware omissions, the SD Card being the first.
Matias Duarte really takes the blame here.
He had the nerve to call it (SD Cards) good but confusing, hence the lack of it on Nexus devices. WTF?!
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Sense camera> anything. Therefore i'm stuck with sense. I'll be here until the next evo, or a htc 5 inch phone:good:
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Google is getting dumb with hardware omissions, the SD Card being the first.
Matias Duarte really takes the blame here.
He had the nerve to call it (SD Cards) good but confusing, hence the lack of it on Nexus devices. WTF?!
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Wow! I didn't catch that one. Thanks for pointing that out. I can't imagine not having a sd card. I use the heck out of mine.
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Wow! I didn't catch that one. Thanks for pointing that out. I can't imagine not having a sd card. I use the heck out of mine.
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Lack of an SD card isn't a deal breaker for me. I rarely store music or movies on my phone anyway.
After moving through multiple Samsung Phones and now an Evo, I'm just tired of waiting months for an OS update. I will probably switch to buying Nexus devices exclusively when my contract is up.
The fact that the unlocked Nexus is not much more than I usually pay for a subsidized phone may be the reason I switch off of Sprint.
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If the Sprint variant gets LTE, it's a done deal, if not then the next EVO for me
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Nexus 4 won't have LTE, strange as that is.
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Probably on Launch Day.
Nope. The screen will KILL battery life like butter.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running sweet sweet Jelly Bean
Depends on the off contract price... expecting it to be around 7-8 hundred so probably not.
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Is this thread really necessary?
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Is this thread really necessary?
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I agree we already have the same phone in 2 other threads. Although I sound a bit like a hippocrit since I made a thread on the Japanese version when they had the dlx thread out.
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Nope. The rezound is my last HTC device. They make decent quality stuff, but they refuse to support it. (see tablets) After buying two tabs and getting the shaft, I have made a vow to not buy another HTC product. Not to mention the hoops they make us jump through just to root and rom our phones. They might aswell be dead to me.
/rant off
Delete it then fine by me. I only saw the butterfly thread and was just trying to provide some information.
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Nope. The rezound is my last HTC device. They make decent quality stuff, but they refuse to support it. (see tablets) After buying two tabs and getting the shaft, I have made a vow to not buy another HTC product. Not to mention the hoops they make us jump through just to root and rom our phones. They might aswell be dead to me.
/rant off
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Ok go get a samsung or moto and have fun with all the locked bootloaders
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Ok go get a samsung or moto and have fun with all the locked bootloaders
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Samsungs is easily bypassable. Which is where I plan on going. And it's not like "htc's unlockable" BL does all that much good. If it did we wouldn't need to s-off.
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Samsungs is easily bypassable. Which is where I plan on going. And it's not like "htc's unlockable" BL does all that much good. If it did we wouldn't need to s-off.
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true about samsung. moto i think has garbage hardware... can i ask what trouble you had with the htc tablets? sounds like a pretty bad experience for you to leave the company
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true about samsung. moto i think has garbage hardware... can i ask what trouble you had with the htc tablets? sounds like a pretty bad experience for you to leave the company
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Well, it started with the many replacements of the tbolt, then HTC's hard stance against updating their tablets kinda pushed me over the edge, then they updated the flyer/view to broken software and they wont even fix it. Now the Rezound is having touchscreen issues. So I'm just tired of dealing with the problems and the lack of OEM support after purchase. I appreciate the Dev community for the zound, but sammy seems to be stronger in that dept. So I think I am going to give them a shot. I won't touch Moto with a ten foot pole. It may be a bad move, but I'm willing to take that risk after all the issues I have had recently with HTC. So for me, from here on out, it's going to be Nexus, or Samsung.
Samsung is worse.
I love my Rez and I still think of it as probably one of the, if not the most undervalued android phone released to date, but I don't see myself going for yet another carrier exclusive device after this. Of course, reviews might be so great for the DNA that I could change my mind but so far I am not that impressed.
Having said that however, the lack of a LTE capable Nexus 4 kinda limits the options for those looking to upgrade atm and I really cant see myself with a Galaxy S device. Wish Sony would be given a chance at penetrating the US market, they seem to strike a fair balance between corporate dev support, hardware and software quality.
I'll be getting this. The hardware and build quality will be top notch, it can be unlocked through HTCs dev website and be able to load cm. It was between this and the note but son, I am dissapoint at it having the older gen exynos and 720p screen on a 5.5 inch screen.
no, my next phone will be honor 2 or note 2
battery is important factor to me now
i dont think i will ever came back to htc
even im sense-boy
Nah, samsung isn't worse.
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Its looking like ill most likely be getting it. I'm thinking ill be getting the DNA and one other new gen phone probably a GSM phone since I have two contracts, one with ATT and one with Verizon.
But I will be more careful than usual with this purchase. I'm currently so broke I can't afford the down payment on a grilled cheese sandwich. But this phone is a priority, and I owe it to the BAMF community. So I've been saving my pennies and will be selling some stuff to raise some funds.
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I cam say that I'll be getting one as well, I'm always into the latest HTC has to offer..
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Nah, samsung isn't worse.
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samsungs radios and signal are 10x worse.
in my house, my gs3 gets about 6kbps download on 3g.
my rezound, when its not pulling 4g in my house (which the nexus and GS3 CAN'T), pulls atleast half a meg to a meg per second. doing anything on the gs3 on 3g is terrible, and ridiculously slow. fb app won't even load. rezound loads it no problem. hell, i even tethered 3 tablets to my rezound last night and while we were all browsing at the same time, ti was STILl faster than my gs3
i don't think i'd buy antoher samsung phone ever again, and i really want the DNA...dunno if i wanna fork out 600 bones for it tohugh
http://htcsource.com/2013/01/new-pictures-of-the-htc-m7-and-sense-5-reveal-new-details/#That's right folks, it's been but a few months since the release of the DNA and we are already seeing HTC propose a new flagship device that will supposedly launch in 2013!
Everything below here is subject to change
The Specs (what we think we know)
-4.7 ' 1080p "Solux" Display
-32GB internal memory
-13mp camera
-2mp front facing camera (capable of 1080)
-2,300 mAh battery (no word on removability)
-aluminum uni-body chassis
-2GB of RAM
-468ppi
-1.7Ghz quad core Adreno processor
-4G LTE support (don't think I had to mention this one)
-Jellybean OS
-Possibly Sense 5
-Possible 4-carrier support
-Beats audio integration
Expandable memory options are not yet known but are most likely non existent
What I think right now is we will see this show cased at Mobile World Congress.
I will update this thread as news comes out about this beast and openly encourage whomever may read this to correct any errors I have made
Feel free to discuss any aspects about the phone in this thread, any speculation regarding anything about HTC and the M7's release, marketing, pricing, and "downfalls" is absolutely welcome so long as disrespect for other users is completely non-existent.
Update 1/21/2013:
Sorry for not updating way sooner however I have been busy!
Some new pictures surfaced recently of the M7, purportedly running Sense 5, which as some of you know has not been released yet. Pictures are here!
Furthermore, there have been some more rumors which indicate a possible announcement of this handset at MWC!
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Oooo, seems like it would be a nice device. However I have no idea why you would need a 1080p display on a 4.7" device, but if it doesnt absolutly drain the battery why not?
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Oooo, seems like it would be a nice device. However I have no idea why you would need a 1080p display on a 4.7" device, but if it doesnt absolutly drain the battery why not?
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Absolutely agreed friend, however from what I have heard the DNA's battery already holds up well with a 5' display to power. Should be interesting to see some of the opinions regarding battery for this
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Its hard to believe they just came out with the DNA and were already talking about a new device that is slightly better on paper spec wise. I think it might make a few people mad since they just bought the DNA and now there is already something new.
Sounds like a neat phone
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Its hard to believe they just came out with the DNA and were already talking about a new device that is slightly better on paper spec wise. I think it might make a few people mad since they just bought the DNA and now there is already something new.
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I had believed from the start that they were going to release something a bit better shortly after that would have larger memory, just a marketing ploy I suppose
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Sounds like a neat phone
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I like the unibody aluminium chassis idea...definitely doesn't make a phone look or feel cheap
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I like the unibody aluminium chassis idea...definitely doesn't make a phone look or feel cheap
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Yea, i like the aluminium as well, it should also give the phone a bit more durability.
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Yea, i like the aluminium as well, it should also give the phone a bit more durability.
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Bingo my rez is beat!
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After the DNA flop, I'll be keeping a close eye on this one. I've gotta move up to something eventually LOL.
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After the DNA flop, I'll be keeping a close eye on this one. I've gotta move up to something eventually LOL.
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Flop? I love mine.
This phone sounds pretty sweet tho from all of the rumors. :good:
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Flop? I love mine.
This phone sounds pretty sweet tho from all of the rumors. :good:
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Technologically, it is a beast but it is hamstrung by a lack of storage and a questionable battery. Whether HTC or Verizon is to blame we'll never know. Either way, it missed the mark. I have to believe its not just the hard core crowd that noticed. Their announcement on Facebook was absolutely blasted by comments pointing out these omissions.
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Technologically, it is a beast but it is hamstrung by a lack of storage and a questionable battery. Whether HTC or Verizon is to blame we'll never know. Either way, it missed the mark. I have to believe its not just the hard core crowd that noticed. Their announcement on Facebook was absolutely blasted by comments pointing out these omissions.
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Was Verizon. HTC wouldn't release the butterfly with the storage and omit it in the US. Verizon wishing everyone was streaming it more likely the culprit. Tis true, lots of people were upset. The DNA isn't a bad device, just limited.
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Technologically, it is a beast but it is hamstrung by a lack of storage and a questionable battery. Whether HTC or Verizon is to blame we'll never know. Either way, it missed the mark. I have to believe its not just the hard core crowd that noticed. Their announcement on Facebook was absolutely blasted by comments pointing out these omissions.
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I agree with what you are saying for the most part. I agree it got blasted for its "small" battery before it was even used by anyone, which put a sour taste in a lot of mouths. After owning mine since the week after launch, I have nothing but amazing things to say about the numerically "small" battery. I was skeptical at first, but it turned out far from questionable for me, and the added rigidity of the non-removable back is great. I hate squeaks and creeks.
The storage gripe I completely understand. Personally it has had no effect on me, but I can sympathize for those who need/want more, especially in a day and age where file sizes are massive and people spend multiple hours on their phones.
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Apparently the chipset is substantially different; dedicated chip for camera and special LTE chipset which has lower power requirements (as on the DNA). I'm very nervous about a non-removable battery, but I've always been OCD about that with multiple chargers and always carrying a spare battery in my briefcase. I'd also really like to see removable storage (since I have a 64g card in my Rezound).
Most importantly, however, will be the ability to unlock the bootloader and an easy way to S-OFF. My upgrade period starts around May of 2013 and hopefully by then there will be alternatives to stock for the device. I bought my Rezound the second day it was available and the first few months of no-root were painful, even though the devs came up with a temp root within a couple of weeks. If HTC and Verizon Wireless lock things down, I'm going to look elsewhere.
The non-removable storage is a total troll move by Verizon. They push you to a tiered data plan, then minimize your storage capabilities and tell you to use cloud storage forcing you to buy more data. Up yours, Verizon.
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I agree with what you are saying for the most part. I agree it got blasted for its "small" battery before it was even used by anyone, which put a sour taste in a lot of mouths. After owning mine since the week after launch, I have nothing but amazing things to say about the numerically "small" battery. I was skeptical at first, but it turned out far from questionable for me, and the added rigidity of the non-removable back is great. I hate squeaks and creeks.
The storage gripe I completely understand. Personally it has had no effect on me, but I can sympathize for those who need/want more, especially in a day and age where file sizes are massive and people spend multiple hours on their phones.
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I could live with the "small" battery as I'm never far from a charger for long. The storage was the deal breaker for me. I work a lot of 12 hour shifts, no WiFi at work, and like to have plenty of music on hand. Also, having kids, it'd tick me off if in the middle of shooting a video I'd run outta space and lose recording a memory.
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If its multi carrier it might be worth looking at. I want the note 2 so bad but I don't want that low ppi. I'm hoping the note 3 will be 1080p. However, after this one, im never buying a carrier specific phone again. And I'd almost prefer not to buy HTC phones since other manufacturers are doing better with long tern updates now. But I do love the premium feel. Just depends. But those specs are sick.
So much for HTC sticking to their game plan of spamming less phones in the market. Company is going to be RIP at this rate.
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So much for HTC sticking to their game plan of spamming less phones in the market. Company is going to be RIP at this rate.
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Well I think this is a great opportunity for them. When has "spamming" the market really gone horribly for a manufacturer? I don't hear Samsung complaining about their Galaxy line up...or Moto complaining about their Droid Razr line up. I think HTC has been too conservative with releasing devices and I think it's time they change up their game. Anything for them right now would most likely be a saving grace
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How does everyone feel about this device? I'm a year away from an upgrade so I won't be getting it, that and its not on Verizon. I really love the look of the phone, and I like Sense, just not that new UI screen.
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After the Rezound I'm officially done with HTC for good, if it want for the developer community we (luckily) have I would have bought a GNEX off contract. It's not just the Rezz either, from the thunderbolt to the One X and S HTC is consistently lagging behind. Finally and most importantly they diffuse to keep yo with android as a whole, were the years into on screen nav keys and HTC still continues to use causative buttons ( so much more screen room, still on that ugly ass green color when the blue is much more inviting it also clashes with Google apps. It looks like Motorola and sammy have finally stepped it up so that's where I am going.
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I like the design and the SD800 processor, but that's about it. Once my contact is up, I'll be moving on to some Samsung device. They don't BS about their updates and product line.
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I like the design and the SD800 processor, but that's about it. Once my contact is up, I'll be moving on to some Samsung device. They don't BS about their updates and product line.
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Guess you never saw the droid charge incident with gingerbread update. One week the phone was getting it. Then next week it wasn't. It flipped flopped like that for a few months.
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Guess you never saw the droid charge incident with gingerbread update. One week the phone was getting it. Then next week it wasn't. It flipped flopped like that for a few months.
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Samsung has been on the ball the last few phones they have released yes the charge was an abysmal failure but as of late moto and Sammy are leaps and bounds over HTC which is a dam Shame because I love their cameras, radios, screens, and design.
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If it's true that a VZW version will drop as the DNA+ in a couple of months, that will be my next phone. Identical specs to the One and it's supposed to have microSd card support as well. Basically, what the DNA should have been in the first place.
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No way. Not doing the ril stuff anymore. Really delays Rom development.
Rezound, s-off, loving it.
Pretty tempted to go with Sammy for the next phone too..ive done the Moto/LG/HTC experiences..guessing its about time for me to join the sheep of the Android world and get a Galaxy (unless the rumored Moto X phone is really something beastly). Hope the SGS4 won't disappoint, not a fan of their design and build quality but hard to be disappointed with their hardware and software. I'll probably still be on the Rez for a bit longer anyway though..VZW will probably lag way behind again in releasing the SGS4, and I hate paying full upgrade pricing when I can wait 2 or 3 months and have the price halved or even better. Still love the Rez in its own right. I never had any real complaints about the Rez (and yes, especially because of the amazing devs we have here) but I hope my next phone is 1. Lighter (it's about the same weight as my old Droid 2 for god's sake) 2. is considerably better on battery life. Camera/reception/screen etc. I think have always been fantastic on this device.
I am VERY curious though to see a battery test on the HTC One..battery seems like it's fairly decent in capacity, but I wonder how much more (if even) that new cpu will get out of it.
Its nice to see community members react to a failing company ... What's a good phone with out good software and documentation... I mean look at the lg optimus age or the moto artix HD you'll understand
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Its nice to see community members react to a failing company ... What's a good phone with out good software and documentation... I mean look at the lg optimus age or the moto artix HD you'll understand
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I'm not understanding this. HTC is a failing company because they are failing the consumers that were once loyal. My first phone was the DINC and I love that thing, I still love my Rezound as well it's a great phone and I got so much more than with the GNEX and RZR. HTC even began unlocking boot loaders for those who wanted I was really high on my HTC horse but the more and more I hear about the update problems HTC is having while others are moving forward clearly shows that buying a new HTC device is a gamble. I mean the RAZR is getting OFFICIAL JB. Another thing to consider the incredible 4g came out after the Rezound with worse specs and that was it until the DNA came out? They move a step forward them two steps back it makes no sense. I will say however Motorola is also guilty of this in Some ways with the max line just like HTC + lines. Samsung is winning the battle because sadly they are just ding it properly. I hope I see HTC make strides over the year because I will be leaving Verizon sooner rather than later. Pretty sure I'm going to switch to T-MO everything unlimited plan no contacts or carrier chains sounds amazing and new nexus devices whenever I feel like it straight from Google. Sounds like heaven.
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While it sure does look pretty, the inability to upgrade external memory via sd card and untested battery life are so far keeping me from upgrading.
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I wish phone makers and carriers would stop pushing that cloud crap. Only reason phone makers likes it is because they can stop putting a SD slot in save money and then charge the same price. The carriers likes cloud because with no more unlimited plans on many of the carriers. That means more people will run the risk of going over and they can charge outrageous overage fees.
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Non removable battery or if the phone doesn't have more that 32 gigs no sale. I don't believe in the cloud for all my data or my music. I don't like to use the cloud for privacy reasons and it drains my battery faster. Only cloud I use is my own or ssh to my own computer and get files that way. I do like this phone but my rezound experience has been less than stellar. Thinking I'll give Samsung a try on there next phone.
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That horid sense 5 ui. Eeww I'd buy a Sammy just because of that. Plus the rumored exynos 5 octa sounds promising for battery life and performance in the sgs4
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I hate anyone here who says wah the battery wah wah.
GO ON THE DNA FORUM AND LOOK HOW WELL THAT BATTERY PERFORMS. god, do none of you people do research? it'll be the same, if not better, than the dna. good god
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People cries I want more power in the CPU. Gimme this and gimme that but then they cry about battery life. That's like saying I want to take my mustang gt and make it a 1,000 horsepower but I want the same gas mileage as it gets stock. Guess what not going to happen.
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People cries I want more power in the CPU. Gimme this and gimme that but then they cry about battery life. That's like saying I want to take my mustang gt and make it a 1,000 horsepower but I want the same gas mileage as it gets stock. Guess what not going to happen.
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#fact
we need a hybrid battery
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People cries I want more power in the CPU. Gimme this and gimme that but then they cry about battery life. That's like saying I want to take my mustang gt and make it a 1,000 horsepower but I want the same gas mileage as it gets stock. Guess what not going to happen.
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Its more about total range. Put in a bigger gas tank.
If moto could do 3300 battery why cant anyone else
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Its more about total range. Put in a bigger gas tank.
If moto could do 3300 battery why cant anyone else
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dude a bigger gas tank doesn't solve that at all hahaha you're still getting horrible mielage out of the engine with all that power. just bc you have a 25 gallon tank now doesn't mean you're going to get more than 10mpg lol
everybody cries about battery. i don't care; i carry my backpack with me where i go, which includes a charger, 2 spare batteries, and my 10,000mah external charger. and at home, i've got a 5500mah solar external charger by Joos. to me, battery life isn't a big deal. my DNA got the same/better battery life than my S3 does.
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dude a bigger gas tank doesn't solve that at all hahaha you're still getting horrible mielage out of the engine with all that power. just bc you have a 25 gallon tank now doesn't mean you're going to get more than 10mpg lol
everybody cries about battery. i don't care; i carry my backpack with me where i go, which includes a charger, 2 spare batteries, and my 10,000mah external charger. and at home, i've got a 5500mah solar external charger by Joos. to me, battery life isn't a big deal. my DNA got the same/better battery life than my S3 does.
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A bit of tact would flatter you, unless you're a teenie bopper, in which case I'll forgive you. You have a point and while the software and hardware has steadily improved in utilizing the batteries, I d still say it's still far from ideal.
I'm glad you don't mind carrying all that extra stuff around but I'd like to be able to rely on the device and the battery that comes with it, rather than having to resort to additional measures.