LTE question - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

So my girlfriend is going to be getting a note.
But we don't get lte in our area. We hardly get 4g.
Do we absolutely have to add a lte data plan on to our account or could we get like a 3g/4g data plan?
Basically don't want to pay for something we are never going to use.
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eyeisdasteve said:
So my girlfriend is going to be getting a note.
But we don't get lte in our area. We hardly get 4g.
Do we absolutely have to add a lte data plan on to our account or could we get like a 3g/4g data plan?
Basically don't want to pay for something we are never going to use.
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You can call ATT to verify but I'm pretty sure you can use a normal data plan. Your account needs to be provisioned for LTE for it to work (and with the SIM iirc), but you should still be able to pull hspa+ with no issues.
I wasn't charged anything extra for having LTE provisioned on my account, but I'm also grandfathered unlimited.
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Yeah, it will depend greatly on the actual AT&T person who sets you up. Bottom line is that technically, you can use the Note without being provisioned for LTE. My girlfriend and I both had our Notes set up on our old data plan for a couple of months before a store realized the error while fishing in our account for other stuff.

Ok. I actually just called them.
The guy basically said that no matter what I get for data 3g/4g/LTE its all the same price.
It just depends on how much data she wants.
Can anyone confirm this?
She had a 2gb data plan from like 2 1/2 years ago. They don't offer that so they said regardless we are going to be charged more once we upgrade the contract.
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Yeah the 2gb plan is no longer available, it's now like 500mb for 20 3gb for 30 and i dint remember how much the 5gb plan was cause i went with the 3gb

The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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xshaftx said:
The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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OK sweet. Thanks.
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Just keep tabs on your usage with *3282# SEND. These phone are capable of allot of data even if you do not stream audio and video. 3GB is nothing with Play updates, a little web, FB, Twitter, FourSquare, email and Maps... Youtube can easily chew up a few hundred MB in a session.

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Just keep tabs on your usage with *3282# SEND. These phone are capable of allot of data even if you do not stream audio and video. 3GB is nothing with Play updates, a little web, FB, Twitter, FourSquare, email and Maps... Youtube can easily chew up a few hundred MB in a session.
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I have sprint so I don't worry about it. But I always check for my gf. She is always so close to going over. Lol.
Then I'm like " No more internet". Haha.
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xshaftx said:
The plans and prices are all the same regardless of what smartphone u have. Currently they are $20/300mb $30/3gb $50/5gb with tethering. if u already had a smartphone on an older smartphone data plan you are grandfathered in to that for the time being.
At&t sales rep here.
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Why do you say for the time being? Are they trying to do away with the grandfathered unlimited? Honestly...that's the only reason I stuck with ATT
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No i haven't heard that they will, but they can at any time. The way things are going its bound to happen at some point.
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What did they do to my account

What does this mean
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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I went through that during the time I activated my phone and I'm still clarifying some AT&T screw up on my account right now. Make sure that your grandfathered in data plan is transferred over and no "pro-rated" addition $10 is added.
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Means you changed data plans to the lte unlimited. Because it's two different plans they will show twice on your statement and when checking data usage
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You didn't notice. The unlimited deactivated is still growing while the new unlimited is still at zero. I will stop by att after work and see about that and the messaging color not changing. Ill see if it changes on the demo and request a new one if it works on that. Hate white background
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Figures, went to att and asked them about it. Tried it again as they looked thru system and it fixed durring the day today some how.
That's a lot of messaging.
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There's nothing wrong with any of that.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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That's a lot of messaging.
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That messaging is 5 phones on a family plan. 3 kids typing away
ifalldownalot said:
my little sister has her messaging that high. she has her twitter/social media updates sent to her through text. saves on the data, I guess.
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My kids do the same thing because they have data blocked
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How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
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How do you have unlimited LTE? Is this like that VZ work around? Im thinking of getting a VZ phone as a holdover if the Journal comes out, since you can trick the plans into giving you unlimited data!
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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He was most likely grandfathered in, the same way I was and all the rest of us grandfathered.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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They say they start throttling but I've yet to go over that lately anyways, but there are ways around that too. I have no idea about what vzw users are doing to cheat the vzw system lol. I've thought about going back to vzw, but at the moment its like leaving one thief for another.
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O, but your throttled at 2GB right? Theres people tricking the VZ system who werent grandfathered to unlimited LTE, one guy said he used 400GB last month!
tempteed to see if i can get it, because I have a feeling this will come out on VZ. Worst comes to wortst I would still get the 10GB plan. I really wouldnt mind just he 10GB
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It seems to be like how Comcast does throttling. They nab up a hand full of people and smack them down. Who knows. I've broke past the 4GB mark a few times.

New att throttle policy really not affecting my usage

after being throttle to .6 mb this cicle i have to say im not seing a difference in my usage
i currently am at 9gbs of usage this month and am able to still stream my nba games live at throttled speeds still.
i currently am doing my parctice were i use my phone a lot for video chat and photo taking for price checking and inventory.
I aint tryying to denfend att in no way in fact i did start a complaint here in puerto rico fcc equivalent when this whole five percent thing started to the point of having to talk to there customer service manager.
But is it really affecting you guys as much?
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I am at over 7GB, and have not been slowed down a bit. Not sure what the whole fuss is about!
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wish I could of kept my unlimited plan
It got all messed up last year
I tried to call and get it fixed but they didnt wanna help. Went up a few levels and still no unlimited plan =(
blazeplacid said:
wish I could of kept my unlimited plan
It got all messed up last year
I tried to call and get it fixed but they didnt wanna help. Went up a few levels and still no unlimited plan =(
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That sucks. That almost happened to me this time when I changed my phone to GNote from Atrix. ATT tried to pull a fast one by charging me the same price for 3gb of data. It wasn't a difficult process but they did have to make a claim. Nowadays even supervisors can't change the plan... Thankfully, i keep a good eye on my usage.
I wonder if you guys can get the unlimited data plan back with the iPhone 2G (aka Original iPhone) trick. Get an old iPhone, activate it on iTunes and it will get you the unlimited data plan since that was the only plan available for the iPhone 2G. Don't know if that loophole was closed but some people have claimed they tried it in December and it was still working as of then.
EDIT: Looks like that loophole has been closed and no longer works
Beats getting overcharged i guess buat am able to use my phone normally so maybe now att is using there heads
or you can go the verizon way and have an 10gb plan (20gb if ya bought it at christmas time)
now theres a plan i dont think anyone will cross
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The new policy did say 4G LTE users would not be slowed down as much as hspa +/3G users, of course they did not specify speeds.
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OkNewMedia said:
I am at over 7GB, and have not been slowed down a bit. Not sure what the whole fuss is about!
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What are you guys doing to hit 7GB , tethering lots of streaming? I think I need to get out if the house more and get off wifi lol.
So far I've only used 232 MB 7 days in lol. But that will change soon when I start to travel and such this summer. I plan on using my note to tether to my iPad and Transformer Prime.
they are only throttling iPhone users, not other unlimited plan users
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Im not tethering but i.dont have access to wifi also and i watch nba games all the time on my device and use google music as my main music player
gb of data will soon mean nothing with all the cool.stuff coming out for phones
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All unlimited users within the top 5% have been throttled since october '11
They published the policy online last month
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they are only throttling iPhone users, not other unlimited plan users
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All unlimited users within the top 5% have been throttled since october '11
They published the policy online last month
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Don't say that. Gez. Its only in certain areas. There are still plenty of people that haven't been throttled. You just don't hear from themes much
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What are you guys doing to hit 7GB , tethering lots of streaming? I think I need to get out if the house more and get off wifi lol.
So far I've only used 232 MB 7 days in lol. But that will change soon when I start to travel and such this summer. I plan on using my note to tether to my iPad and Transformer Prime.
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i used 2gb after 10 days into billing cycle
all i do is play games / browse website
i didnt even tether / stream / youtube once
When I get throttled I just get myself unthrottled. The ImEi trick always works
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Change APN, don't get throttled?
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carhigh said:
Don't say that. Gez. Its only in certain areas. There are still plenty of people that haven't been throttled. You just don't hear from themes much
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They've been doing it for months and its everywhere not just in select areas but most people wouldn't ever use enough data to get throttled.
The only real change is that now they've set the throttle cap at 3gb for HSPA+ phones & 5gb for LTE phones. Up until last month they were basing the throttling on being in the 'top 5%' of other users in your area, which resulted in people on 'unlimited plans' getting throttled under 2gb.
Whoops I hitbthebthanks button. People are not getting throttled like they are supposed to. Its pretty easy to see. They are being selective
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Whoops I hitbthebthanks button. People are not getting throttled like they are supposed to. Its pretty easy to see. They are being selective
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Well thanks for the thanks anyway lol.. I was always suspicious of how they were throttling but now that they've set some actual numbers in stone I feel a little better about it. I'm a little irritated though that I pay for two identical unlimited data plans (for the past 5 years) and now one gives me 3GB while the other gives me 5GB.. even though I pay the same for both.. Oh well, its better than randomly being throttled at 2GB I guess.
At about 6.5gbs (which is pretty low for my average monthly usage) and have not been throttled even after reviving notification.
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Well...it is true that they are supposedly trying to only throttle in areas that are congested
That could explain the lack of throttling of some.
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Amaze on simple mobile

OK I have the amaze with the 60 dollar unlimited 4g plan and I only used about 989 mbs of data I started from the 13 of this month to. Today I received a txt saying that I was abuse king the data service and was throttled now my speeds when down to below edge witch is like 0.12 mbs down 0.4 up I think it crap service has this happened to anyone on here with simple mobile before.
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Yup. My gf has simple mobile and when you hit around 1gb, they will throttle you or shut off your internet.
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Today I received a txt saying that I was abuse king the data service...
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"Abuse King" I certainly hope it said this. It would be epic... All hail the King of abuse!
$70 "T-Mobile Monthly 4G" pre-paid will give you unlimited talk, text, and 5gb of data before they throttle.
They also offer 100 minutes, unlimited text, and 5gb before throttling for $30 a month (which is what I use)
Sorry, I can't speak to Simple Mobile and their throttling, I just had to quote the abuse King.
I read through their ToS. It says
Protective Measures
To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. Additionally, in the event that a customer is in violation of the Permissible and Prohibited Data Uses listed above, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle or terminate data service without notice or refund. We may also suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, Plan, or service if you use your Data Plan in a manner that interferes with other customers' service, our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or that otherwise may degrade service quality for other customers.
Update: Now this is just funny. I went to check if Simple Mobile is a BBB accredited Business, they are not. Look at what the BBB rated them though.
http://www.la.bbb.org/business-revi...ail/Simple-Mobile-in-East-Irvine-CA-100094297
Yup welcome to the scam that is Simple Mobile. Because all their customers are month to month, they give not two ****s about retention - in fact retention goes AGAINST their business model...they suck you in with false advertising and blatantly lying to consumers, lying about unlimited data, then turn you off COMPLETELY at about 1gb. And when you call to complain they LITERALLY CANT WAIT to drive your business away. Cuz they in know the next chump just bought his 60 card...they basically push you out once your usefulness is up end of month.
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Yup welcome to the scam that is Simple Mobile. Because all their customers are month to month, they give not two ****s about retention - in fact retention goes AGAINST their business model...they suck you in with false advertising and blatantly lying to consumers, lying about unlimited data, then turn you off COMPLETELY at about 1gb. And when you call to complain they LITERALLY CANT WAIT to drive your business away. Cuz they in know the next chump just bought his 60 card...they basically push you out once your usefulness is up end of month.
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Seriously man I have just cut my service I'm about to got to T-Mobile and get prepaid with them cuz someone stole my in foe and committed a fraudulent account in my name so I can't even go back to them as a postpaid contract. Omg I hate when I get jimpted
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I've never had a problem with simple mobile with any device I've owned, I'm currently using my Galaxy Nexus and I used 4 GB of data last month with no throttle
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Do it man, Simple Mobile is bad news, they suck and I sincerely hope they and their ****ty ways are out of business...soon.
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AttachedSilver said:
I've never had a problem with simple mobile with any device I've owned, I'm currently using my Galaxy Nexus and I used 4 GB of data last month with no throttle
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You Sir are the very big exception....
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You Sir are the very big exception....
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I've seen videos on YouTube that show data caps and throttling but I guess I'm lucky its never happened to me
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I've seen videos on YouTube that show data caps and throttling but I guess I'm lucky its never happened to me
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You are very lucky I called again today to talk to some from corperate and they were will to send a tickek. Whatever the hell that means but seriously tho like I hate the facted that I get throttled from not even using a 1gb of data
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Read the small print, if its one GB then its one GB every one knows unlimited is not unlimited anymore. At least you should if you know enough about phones to be here. I'm on contract and have 5 lines (not all mine of course, me, wife and kids) but my unlimited data is 5 GB & i expect if i hit that which i make sure i don't that i'll be throttled. So if your plan throttles at 1GB and you get throttled at 1GB what's the problem? You didn't read the small print? I just dont get it. I don't like it, i mean on 4g i get close to 20mbs & i can connect 8 devices they love to advertise that. So i could eat up my cap in a couple hrs. But thats how it is. Look how fast our phones are and oh yeah your capped but you can hit your cap faster with our network then any other lol. & buy a HTC one series phone will give you no sd card slot but 50GB of drop box storage. I laughed in the reps face when he told me that i said so with a 5GB cap in ten months i can fill up my drop box lol. Should have seen his face. I know, i know, wifi but still. I swear its a conspiracy, speed up the networks and phones lower caps and raise data prices, & now send us all to cloud storage wtf!!!! SORRY END RANT
Oh yeah & XDA premium but simple mobile? Spend your $ on a good plan.
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You are very lucky I called again today to talk to some from corperate and they were will to send a tickek. Whatever the hell that means but seriously tho like I hate the facted that I get throttled from not even using a 1gb of data
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Not that I'm trying to bash simple mobile... but as some one that helped launched the service... run away from simple mobile.
so shady.
but yea they will need to make a ticket to send to T-Mo for the T-Mo NOC team or one of the tech departments to undo the throttle so it's going to take a few days. .
Dude it still hasn't been fixed I'm thinking of just going prepaid T-Mobile at least I get my correct 3g speeds with them
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I didn't even notice the date of when this started... But simple mobile or any MNVO's Tickets are so low on the priority it takes for ever for a resolution. Going pre paid T-Mobile is the best idea.
True that's what I'm going to for right now
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I sincerely hope they and their ****ty ways are out of business...soon.
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Well somebody somewhere heard my plea...Simple Mobile purchased today by Tracphone. Good ****ing riddance, enjoy your new 711 overlords, you piece of dog**** mvno. Simple is dead..THANK GOD.
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Damn it well I have to wait till the next month to finish out my moneys worth and switch to T-Mobile next month
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You don't really have to unless you are grandfathered in for unlimited data... VZW shared everything, includes the hotspot feature and you don't have to have 2 devices... I switched my plan to it and I'm actually saving $10+ more a month... Just a thought.. and in case others didn't know
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I'm sure most of us knew that..
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I'm sure most of us knew that..
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Umm, I didn't.
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I'm sure most of us knew that..
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Thats cool if you did.. if others didn't, I was giving them a heads up... I didn't know it til earlier today. So I wanted to help others out
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I've been considering mentioning it. Because of the spectrum that Verizon bought, they cannot "double dip" into our pockets and are not allowed to charge twice for the same data, thus we're allowed to tether. This does not apply to unlimited because the data you use on unlimited is dictated by usage rather than by purchasing a set amount of data per month.
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I've been considering mentioning it. Because of the spectrum that Verizon bought, they cannot "double dip" into our pockets and are not allowed to charge twice for the same data, thus we're allowed to tether. This does not apply to unlimited because the data you use on unlimited is dictated by usage rather than by purchasing a set amount of data per month.
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That's true, the thing I meant about unlimited was that if they switched to this they wouldn't have it anymore. And instead of tacking on $30 extra to there bill for the hotspot that the root for wifi is better for them.. but if a person doesn't have unlimited, this plan would be one to think about
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That's true, the thing I meant about unlimited was that if they switched to this they wouldn't have it anymore. And instead of tacking on $30 extra to there bill for the hotspot that the root for wifi is better for them.. but if a person doesn't have unlimited, this plan would be one to think about
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I was just explaining why tethering is free for share everything users, and how it differs for unlimited. Personally I can live without unlimited without a problem so i'm looking forward to the free tethering without root or any exploit.
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I was just explaining why tethering is free for share everything users, and how it differs for unlimited. Personally I can live without unlimited without a problem so i'm looking forward to the free tethering without root or any exploit.
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Oh ok.. yea I understand that, I'm the same way
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So do you have to be on a share everything plan? I have the 4gb promotional data plan for the price of 2gb. Would l be able to use Wifi teether free? Thanks
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So do you have to be on a share everything plan? I have the 4gb promotional data plan for the price of 2gb. Would l be able to use Wifi teether free? Thanks
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Unfortunately, no. You would have to add it for the $30.. I had that too
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I was about to convert my unlimited data plan to a 6GB plan since I only use 4.2 on average and thats without the tons of reliable wifi hotspots I have around me. But then I realized this phone kicks at 1080p, so things like youtube/netflix streams are going to be coming in at higher bitrates. I'll also probably use the phone more than my thunderbolt for general web-surfing since it look so much better. Basically, this phone is going to kick up my consumption levels several factors. 6GB is barely enough for my thunderbolt, I have a feeling I'm going to break the bank with the DNA. So I paid full retail just to keep unlimited.
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I was about to convert my unlimited data plan to a 6GB plan since I only use 4.2 on average and thats without the tons of reliable wifi hotspots I have around me. But then I realized this phone kicks at 1080p, so things like youtube/netflix streams are going to be coming in at higher bitrates. I'll also probably use the phone more than my thunderbolt for general web-surfing since it look so much better. Basically, this phone is going to kick up my consumption levels several factors. 6GB is barely enough for my thunderbolt, I have a feeling I'm going to break the bank with the DNA. So I paid full retail just to keep unlimited.
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Nice. Yea I heard about that too. VZW is doing away with unlimited completely. The only way to keep it is if you buy all phone from now on at full retail prices. If you use the upgrade you don't get to keep your unlimited
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Data

Looks like Verizon finally took my prepaid unlimited data away. Would use the 1 gb they gave me but if your rooted and use an app for tethering it appears to be the only work around. Just their way of trying to suck the money from us poor folks.
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Can you be more specific? What did you do to loose unlimited?
^^ Right because they can't just take it away out of nowhere. Did you upgrade or change your plan in anyway?
Were you on a contract? If not, taking it away abruptly could be well within Verzon's rights (sadly). Between payment times they could just be like "well, we're done with this tough ****". I truly hate that. Not a lick of obligation to the customer on their part.
Nope. I paid for the X2 straight out for prepaid and I haven't changed anything to my plan. Instead of unlimited data now I get 1gb.
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Maybe it just depends on the phone you traded for. A prepaid phone, I believe, wouldn't get the unlimited data plan. I could be wrong though.
I'm not really sure what the prepaid plans offer.
If you previously had unlimited data and made no changes to your plan, they will allow you to keep you current plan and be "grandfathered in."
Throwing the word "prepaid" into the equasion makes me wonder if there is more to it.
I took a phone, not on my line or belonging to me, and had it activated on my account. I still have my unlimited data. The phone was actually an upgraded phone from my wife's account. She took my X2 and I took the Gnex.
If you changed your plan in any way, that will definietly cause you to loose your unlimited data.
I haven't change anything since I bought the phone last year. Same plan and all.
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where are you seeing the change
verizonwireless.com, your paper bill.....
Through the myverizon app
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I would go in thw store and talk to them the people ine person are korw apt to help.
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