I have a problem when using some specs hungry apps especially when im using iOnroad even if its plugged in my battery discharges
At home i saw the same problem also while using facebook and some games
My car charger is a ipad certified usb charger and at home im using the stock samsung charger
Is it normal??? Is there a fix??
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If by fix you mean somehow increase the charging power, then no, there is not a software fix for this.
Alternatives which might help include lowering brightness, throttling CPU or disabling one core.
dj_m said:
I have a problem when using some specs hungry apps especially when im using iOnroad even if its plugged in my battery discharges
At home i saw the same problem also while using facebook and some games
My car charger is a ipad certified usb charger and at home im using the stock samsung charger
Is it normal??? Is there a fix??
Sent from my I 9100 Galaxy S II using XDA
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well you could get a custom rom with CM kernel or siyah and enable fast charge mode
cheers
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pan7her said:
well you could get a custom rom with CM kernel or siyah and enable fast charge mode
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And then after 3 months throw battery into trash
I am already on siyah
But fast charge does it damage the usb port
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i used my phone while charging an i dint have drain prblm,wat rom,kernel u on .iam experimental but now on stock wiv neak krnel
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well you could get a custom rom with CM kernel or siyah and enable fast charge mode
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Or spout random crap that doesn't mean anything. There is no such thing as fast charge mode on the I9100, stop spreading nonsense.
im usin deter rom lp9 --->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634770
with siyah 3.2 and ld3 modem
i dont think its rom related because i was on neat and galaxyMod roms and i had the same problem
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Or spout random crap that doesn't mean anything. There is no such thing as fast charge mode on the I9100, stop spreading nonsense.
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its not crap i saw that charging ''overclock'' but it can do some damage to the ports on both end
dj_m said:
its not crap i saw that charging ''overclock'' but it can do some damage to the ports on both end
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I'd like to request that you stop spouting nonsense too.
funny
oinkylicious said:
Or spout random crap that doesn't mean anything. There is no such thing as fast charge mode on the I9100, stop spreading nonsense.
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you are quiet the pretentious prick are you?
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555259
and a quote from the thread
"[..] Faster charging for misc and USB modes. There are 3 modes (AC, Misc, USB) and normally last two of them support only slow charging. You can have charging speed of AC by increasing it (especially user while charging in car or using USB port) [..]"
oh and look its for the I9100, well obv siyah must be lying and the guys from cyanogen mod as well, lucky enough we have you to tell us what kind of reality we ought to believe in.
and as someone with a masters degree in computer science i can tell you that you can program a AC controller to charge more cycles, however it is usually not done because it has side effects like you cant charge and access the files at the same time also speed suffers and also it causes more heat to the battery which in turn lowers its lifecycle
so do us a favor will you? gtfo if you dont have anything useful to say and just come to spread YOUR nonsense without any knowleadge whatsoever
cheers.
pan7her said:
you are quiet the pretentious prick are you?
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555259
and a quote from the thread
"[..] Faster charging for misc and USB modes. There are 3 modes (AC, Misc, USB) and normally last two of them support only slow charging. You can have charging speed of AC by increasing it (especially user while charging in car or using USB port) [..]"
oh and look its for the I9100, well obv siyah must be lying and the guys from cyanogen mod as well, lucky enough we have you to tell us what kind of reality we ought to believe in.
and as someone with a masters degree in computer science i can tell you that you can program a AC controller to charge more cycles, however it is usually not done because it has side effects like you cant charge and access the files at the same time also speed suffers and also it causes more heat to the battery which in turn lowers its lifecycle
so do us a favor will you? gtfo if you dont have anything useful to say and just come to spread YOUR nonsense without any knowleadge whatsoever
cheers.
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Not to be argumentative... but that says:
Faster charging for misc and USB modes. There are 3 modes (AC, Misc, USB) and normally last two of them support only slow charging. You can have charging speed of AC by increasing it (especially user while charging in car or using USB port)
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Seems to me this says it increases USB and misc charging modes up to the same level of AC charging. Not that it increases AC charging, which is what the OP seems to be asking for.
EDIT: I'm sorry. Guess he was asking about car charging... it was a bit hard to read his post though.
i read that 650ma is the max that this phone will allow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468834&highlight=voltage+control
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blah blah blah epeen stuff blah blah blah
so do us a favor will you? gtfo if you dont have anything useful to say and just come to spread YOUR nonsense without any knowleadge whatsoever
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done arguing *hug*
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Glad to hear it. After you're done hugging Pikachu, have a read through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468834
pan7her said:
you are quiet the pretentious prick are you?
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555259
and a quote from the thread
"[..] Faster charging for misc and USB modes. There are 3 modes (AC, Misc, USB) and normally last two of them support only slow charging. You can have charging speed of AC by increasing it (especially user while charging in car or using USB port) [..]"
oh and look its for the I9100, well obv siyah must be lying and the guys from cyanogen mod as well, lucky enough we have you to tell us what kind of reality we ought to believe in.
and as someone with a masters degree in computer science i can tell you that you can program a AC controller to charge more cycles, however it is usually not done because it has side effects like you cant charge and access the files at the same time also speed suffers and also it causes more heat to the battery which in turn lowers its lifecycle
so do us a favor will you? gtfo if you dont have anything useful to say and just come to spread YOUR nonsense without any knowleadge whatsoever
cheers.
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Unless you are charging off your computer, the phone already uses AC charging mode, even if you are charging in car.
It's also one thing what you can program, entirely another what the battery will take. Your run of the mill NiMH battery can tolerate high charging current up to 1C relatively well, even higher just make it heat up and shorten lifetime. When it comes to lithium ion there's a specific charge algorithm you need to follow, and any faster you will risk literally having a ball of fire on your hand. This is why all the OEM li-ion charger takes 3 to 4 hours to charge at quickest.
Unfortunately this also means if you are using very power intensive app you will lose charge even if plugged in. The phone cannot take "extra" power from the charger to supplement the power requirement even though the charger can supply it.
THANKS GUYS
i didnt know that there was an app for siyah kerne i was downloading his kernels from his site and he never mentionned it only on this forum
im gonna try it
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why doesn't the battery charge while it is plugged in while I'm watching a movie or talking to somebody online it's ridiculous amber light never turned green only when it sitting idle
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Most likely because what you're doing, especially the movies is drawing more power than what's actually being pumped into the battery. Get battery monitor widget by "3c" in the market. Very very detailed info about your battery. Ish you never even thought about/existed. Haha. Its very helpful.
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How is it being charged? USB or AC... The answer is important, as USB only charges half as fast as AC.
Regardless, the reason is that if you are using the phone heavily, you are using a lot of power. If you are using a lot of power, you may be using all or almost all of the power coming from the charger just to operate the phone.
I have seen power use rates when using the phone heavily that are around 700mA, that is more than the 500mA that you get when charging via USB, and almost as much as the 1000mA that AC provides.
Heck, I have seen power use rates that are up to 1100mA a few times. That is higher than even the AC input.
Here is a screen shot of my charging over the last 12 days. I have NEVER gotten 1k+ (results may vary. As to why, stated in the following) you can see on the bottom screen the max mA peeked at 972. USB doesn't charge at "half" the mA as wall chargers. I thought that too, but did some tests (while VERY bored at work. Haha) and have seen 600 to around 800 mA. It varies on a number of things.
Ie: the USB cord itself. As some are designed for data only or faster transfer rates rather that charging taking priority. (charging light may be on, but thats just because it knows somethings plugged in. Or you could just have a Bonk one. They're are MANY different USB cables today.
The phones kernel, because you'll notice when the phone is damn near dead, USB or wall, will charge at a higher mA and fluctuate at different battery percentages.
A good/stock kernel will charge super fast when battery is very low to get you somewhat charged quickly. Then in the upper percentages it should slow way down especially in the high 90%'s to effectively complete/finish out the charge rather than just throwing rediculous power into the battery across the whole process. Also what other stuff you may have turned on, on the phone like "enable always on mobile data" may be detrimental. Hope this helps man.
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dopediculous said:
Here is a screen shot of my charging over the last 12 days. I have NEVER gotten 1k+ (results may vary. As to why, stated in the following) you can see on the bottom screen the max mA peeked at 972. USB doesn't charge at "half" the mA as wall chargers. I thought that too, but did some tests (while VERY bored at work. Haha) and have seen 600 to around 800 mA. It varies on a number of things.
Ie: the USB cord itself. As some are designed for data only or faster transfer rates rather that charging taking priority. (charging light may be on, but thats just because it knows somethings plugged in. Or you could just have a Bonk one. They're are MANY different USB cables today.
The phones kernel, because you'll notice when the phone is damn near dead, USB or wall, will charge at a higher mA and fluctuate at different battery percentages.
A good/stock kernel will charge super fast when battery is very low to get you somewhat charged quickly. Then in the upper percentages it should slow way down especially in the high 90%'s to effectively complete/finish out the charge rather than just throwing rediculous power into the battery across the whole process. Also what other stuff you may have turned on, on the phone like "enable always on mobile data" may be detrimental. Hope this helps man. View attachment 895606
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It was only a few times I noticed the power use that high.
USB can vary, but general rule is 500mA can be counted on as that is the max that the standard provides.
All charge rates will vary. The main problem is the fact that we usually charge a device that is powered on. The varied power use will cause fluctuations in charge rate.
I need to research more into how Li-Ion charges when the device is still in use. I do know how they charge when not in use, and all the little details of it. The biggest problem is that powered on really messes with how a Li-Ion battery can charge.
I need to get out my stand alone computerized Li-Ion battery charger and do some testing. I have been wondering exactly how much these batteries hold if actually charged properly. Too bad that the Stock OEM batteries are 3.8v nominal, they charge to a higher overall voltage and my charger is not set up to handle the new voltage so I couldn't charge the stock to a real 100%.
if u charge by AC with a 1000 mA you should be fine
Are you watching the movie on your phone or do you have it connected to a TV? The screen being on will draw a lot of power I believe.
Always always wall charged; only used USB to adb stuff never let it charge via usb
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If you're charging by USB, forget it.
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I recently switched to the Galaxy Note from the Xperia Play... I've noticed that with full charge, my Note gets around 5-6 hours of battery life after medium to heavy usage.. I was wondering if this is the norm for most of you guys? I have my screen dim and I usually turn wifi, bluetooth, and GPS off when not in use...
cutthroat31 said:
I recently switched to the Galaxy Note from the Xperia Play... I've noticed that with full charge, my Note gets around 5-6 hours of battery life after medium to heavy usage.. I was wondering if this is the norm for most of you guys? I have my screen dim and I usually turn wifi, bluetooth, and GPS off when not in use...
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Mine is fantastic. All day easily even overclocked to 1.83. I'm rooted, Saurom, bloatware removed.
This was like the 2nd or third day I had mine. Lots of tweaking and setting up and "Oh yeah, I forgot about that app". Also over an hour of voice calling, 100 or so texts, and Google Listen to and from work (around 45 minutes total).
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39% after 11 hours of fairly heavy use.
Edit - That is also rooted/rom'ed/overclocked.
cutthroat31 said:
I recently switched to the Galaxy Note from the Xperia Play... I've noticed that with full charge, my Note gets around 5-6 hours of battery life after medium to heavy usage.. I was wondering if this is the norm for most of you guys? I have my screen dim and I usually turn wifi, bluetooth, and GPS off when not in use...
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Mine is fantastic 22 hours and heavy use 3-4 hours display time at 50%, 200 emails.
Download CPU Spy from the Market and see if your phone is going into Deep Sleep (known and documented issue). If not search for deep sleep follow the steps and enjoy awesome battery life..
Earthdog said:
Mine is fantastic 22 hours and heavy use 3-4 hours display time at 50%, 200 emails.
Download CPU Spy from the Market and see if your phone is going into Deep Sleep (known and documented issue). If not search for deep sleep follow the steps and enjoy awesome battery life..
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Thanks I'll definitely check that out right now..
Mine is great - been unplugged for 7 hours already, and with moderate use it's at 72%.
phone is decent over the course of a day but I notice that battery drain is pretty severe when the screen is on. I leave it on auto brightness so I'm sure I can save juice reducing to minimum as much as possible but that makes my phone less than ideal. I need it to automatically work and not having to fiddle with brightness just because I stepped outside.
baudilus said:
Mine is great - been unplugged for 7 hours already, and with moderate use it's at 72%.
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What's your definition of moderate? While I don't doubt that you're experiencing solid batt life, terms like "good" and "bad" and "moderate" are SUPER subjective, and because no two phones are truly the same (as are no two coverage areas), I'd really be interested to know how you qualify the way you use the phone.
Not breaking stones here, just saying that you might possibly hold the world Note record for best battery life if you really are using the phone for more than just a minute or two here and there, and for more than just text, email and the occassional website or P2P word game and in a solid coverage area (not WiFi)....
Please advise-
Ryan
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flintdragon said:
phone is decent over the course of a day but I notice that battery drain is pretty severe when the screen is on. I leave it on auto brightness so I'm sure I can save juice reducing to minimum as much as possible but that makes my phone less than ideal. I need it to automatically work and not having to fiddle with brightness just because I stepped outside.
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same with me....
Earthdog said:
Mine is fantastic 22 hours and heavy use 3-4 hours display time at 50%, 200 emails.
Download CPU Spy from the Market and see if your phone is going into Deep Sleep (known and documented issue). If not search for deep sleep follow the steps and enjoy awesome battery life..
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Sounds like I have to check this out.
Is anyone getting battery drain while charging in the car while using the GPS?
I'm using the stock rom, with the overclock kernel but the cpu isn't touched as far as overclocking is concerned. I wasn't sure if it was the overclock or not... and its not the overclock. Anyone else have this issue?
keilbaca said:
Sounds like I have to check this out.
Is anyone getting battery drain while charging in the car while using the GPS?
I'm using the stock rom, with the overclock kernel but the cpu isn't touched as far as overclocking is concerned. I wasn't sure if it was the overclock or not... and its not the overclock. Anyone else have this issue?
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What kind of car charger are you using?
Turn off wifi when the screen is off automatically; go into your wifi settings, hit MENU, then choose 'advanced' and go into 'WiFi Sleep Policy.'
Set it to when your screen turns off, or alternatively 'Never when plugged in.'
If you normally leave Wifi on and you drive a lot (say, to work), you're constantly scanning WiFi signals. This will cut that out.
It's made my LG Thrill quite a bit more usable, and the Note went from good to great battery life.
Earthdog said:
What kind of car charger are you using?
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A dual USB cigarette lighter adapter, and using my data cable. It worked fine with my old Captivate without draining it.
wireless almost has no effect on battery. and if any of you is interested in a good car charger, here you have a deal Roadpro 100W DC to AC Power Inverter http://mobile.dailysteals.com/
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What steps? cant find the info!!!
Downloaded cpu spy, see the results but dont know what to do next..
Mine is showing 69% in deep sleep
Is it ok . If not how can i correct this.
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wireless almost has no effect on battery. and if any of you is interested in a good car charger, here you have a deal Roadpro 100W DC to AC Power Inverter http://mobile.dailysteals.com/
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Let me see if I can find a high end AC to USB charger adapter. I need two, my iPod battery is dead and it needs power to turn on for longer than 10 minutes.
That is a steal though, that's a REALLY good price for that. I, however, already have a dual AC 400 Watt adapter. I am just trying to make it as simple as possible.
EDIT: I found something that I am going to order, and hope for the best.
http://www.scosche.com/consumer-tech/product/2318?gclid=CJLJsZSU9q4CFQ7sKgodfUk2Mw
It has 2.1A across each usb port. I know for a fact that my dinky little $10 usb adapter that I got, does not pull that. I will test with a multimeter before I go ahead and order this, but I can imagine if the USB is 500mAH or less, that's exactly why I am having this issue.
I'll post more info tonight or tomorrow.
I got a Scosche portable battery charger. It came with a special usb adapter that fools the Note into high current charge mode (960mah). Unless pins 2 and 3 are shorted, the Note will not accept more than 500 mah from even a 2.1 A usb port.
You can modify a usb cable to do this but I use the Scosche adapter that came with my battery 5000 mah to charge Galaxy TABs.
If it supports the Galaxy TAB, I presume that it will support the Note.
Ipaqman01 said:
I got a Scosche portable battery charger. It came with a special usb adapter that fools the Note into high current charge mode (960mah). Unless pins 2 and 3 are shorted, the Note will not accept more than 500 mah from even a 2.1 A usb port.
You can modify a usb cable to do this but I use the Scosche adapter that came with my battery 5000 mah to charge Galaxy TABs.
If it supports the Galaxy TAB, I presume that it will support the Note.
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I just did a bit of research after reading this, and soldered pins 2 and 3 together on my griffin jolt duo. Works like a champ now
Thank you
Decent use. Enough for me
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Best usage out of my phone was 13 hours off charger with 6 hours of screen time.
Check my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23560201&postcount=54
My battery life was great until I started using kindle app at work. Cant even make a whole day now with screen using majority of battery.
has anyone so far tried changing the voltage input to the battery, to try and charge it faster? i know the kernel sets voltage limits on how much it will accept, so a custom kernel could allow even higher voltages to be accepted.
thoughts?
soraxd said:
has anyone so far tried changing the voltage input to the battery, to try and charge it faster? i know the kernel sets voltage limits on how much it will accept, so a custom kernel could allow even higher voltages to be accepted.
thoughts?
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Pretty sure the battery probably have hardware safeguards against it too.
I use HTC Sensation wall charger to charge my wife's SGS2, while they both have 5 volts, HTC has 1 amper and Sammy has 0.7 amper. I think it charges faster than using original charger
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I use HTC Sensation wall charger to charge my wife's SGS2, while they both have 5 volts, HTC has 1 amper and Sammy has 0.7 amper. I think it charges faster than using original charger
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actually it wont, the option is explored in siyah kernel for sgs2 and they finally concluded the sgs2 has hadware wall
most android is 5v
That's right, I've been comparing all my friend's phone and most the android devices are having 5v of current charger, but different in amp which is describes the speed of current. I wonder if I could find the app to increase it's amp. Because it really bother me to always using power bank whenever my battery's running low, the original charger is having insufficient power each time I charge the phone while playing game or surfing the web.
Increasing current by a bit won't do any harm, but increasing voltage could well lead to cell damage/component damage
Necro whatsit alive and well today .
jje
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Necro whatsit alive and well today .
jje
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Ha ha, just noticed it was another necro-poster, well spotted
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Ha ha, just noticed it was another necro-poster, well spotted
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I really really like that definition .
jje
I'm using SiyahKernel S3 with STweaks. I've got my voltage set to max on both USB and Mains (Even though I've never used a mains adapter on this phone...)
And I can say it charges pretty quick. I'll send a screenshot in a mo.
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Edit:
Here's the screenshot. Sorry for the delay, the XDA app didn't want to upload it, so I had to wait for my PC to reach it's working temperature.. (Sounds weird, don't it?)
Oh. I accidentally wrote "voltage". Meant "Current"
familyguy59 said:
I'm using SiyahKernel S3 with STweaks. I've got my voltage set to max on both USB and Mains (Even though I've never used a mains adapter on this phone...)
And I can say it charges pretty quick. I'll send a screenshot in a mo.
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I thought siyah increased current, not voltage?
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I thought siyah increased current, not voltage?
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I guess it does, but I'd think that it also tweaks the voltage. I'm sure just putting up the amps ain't good for the hardware.. If I'm wrong, please correct me ^^
Lg
familyguy59 said:
I guess it does, but I'd think that it also tweaks the voltage. I'm sure just putting up the amps ain't good for the hardware.. If I'm wrong, please correct me ^^
Lg
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I think the voltage stays the same, but the current restrictions are adjusted, basically it overrides the charging current limiter
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I think the voltage stays the same, but the current restrictions are adjusted, basically it overrides the charging current limiter
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Hmm. I'm not sure. Like I said, it seems like if you only increase the amps without changing the voltage, you'll:
A: - Bugger up the phone's hardware
or
B: - Bugger up the power supply..
I'll have to take a closer look, at some point in time.. (Yay! Playing hide and seek with Linux system files! Awesome!)
Lg
familyguy59 said:
I guess it does, but I'd think that it also tweaks the voltage. I'm sure just putting up the amps ain't good for the hardware.. If I'm wrong, please correct me ^^Lg
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Since when "mA" is voltage value? Maybe "V" from Volt? Look at screenshot and think again, it's basics.
Increasing Voltage will burn your device, no doubt about. Current is calculated to power consumption based on Voltage. (Basics of Electrics & Electronics)
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slaphead20 said:
I think the voltage stays the same, but the current restrictions are adjusted, basically it overrides the charging current limiter
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You're right. It's exactly how it works
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Since when "mA" is voltage value? Maybe "V" from Volt? Look at screenshot and think again, it's basics.
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Read the post again and look if you miss-read anything. "It's basics"...
Edit: Wow. That picture is bigger than I thought. Rofl I'll hide it..
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Read the post again and look if you miss-read anything. "It's basics"...
Edit: Wow. That picture is bigger than I thought. Rofl I'll hide it..
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I haven't miss-read anything, you've NO clue about electricity. I'm not going to waist my time and explain what is what and how it works.
Look at your screenshot, there's No Voltage setting ffs, it's Current in "mA"!!! But never mind......
Good luck.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/105231980/XDA/Screenshot_2013-03-04-20-32-35.png
djembey said:
I haven't miss-read anything, you've NO clue about electricity. I'm not going to waist my time and explain what is what and how it works.
Look at your screenshot, there's No Voltage setting ffs, it's Current in "mA"!!! But never mind......
Good luck.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/105231980/XDA/Screenshot_2013-03-04-20-32-35.png
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Dude, I understood what you said, but you didn't understand what I wrote and you edited your post, so stop being childish.
I'm the last person you'd need to try and "explain something" about electronics, current, voltages and amps. Especially as I modify and tweak hardware and circuitry...
All I was saying, is that I can't imagine that it'd only set the amps, because the hardware (Not necessarily the device's hardware, but that of the computer/Xbox/Mains socket) would go putt. You'd have to set up the voltage by a few mV, and that wouldn't harm the hardware in any way, especially as we do the same to our processors in PCs, tablets, phones and any else which is overclockable so the the hardware can actually perform the performance desired by the overclocker (The human being).
I hope you now understood and learned something.
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ixyak said:
That's right, I've been comparing all my friend's phone and most the android devices are having 5v of current charger, but different in amp which is describes the speed of current. I wonder if I could find the app to increase it's amp. Because it really bother me to always using power bank whenever my battery's running low, the original charger is having insufficient power each time I charge the phone while playing game or surfing the web.
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SiyahKernel comes with STweaks. Or you can (I think) use Voltage Control.. CHeck the Play Store
Okay guys,
I have reallly strange problem now ! I know battery discharges when you play games or run high processing apps but the story is a little different here. My phone rather discharges faster when it is plugged-in then unplugged, it is weird right ? Unfortunately this happens anytime on my phone, ex:- while switch on-screenon , switchon - screenoff , in recovery , even when it is power-off and charging! I have tried fleet of different charges like wall chargers (3 of them), travel adaptors with different usb cables. Wall charges are rated at 1A and travel adaptors at 0.7A. All of them are official samsung equipments (including usb cables) At the moment only one wall charger is able to charge my phone properly that too seems to be dying! Rest of these chargers are now penniless for my phone although they are working fine on others samsung devices at home.
One thing I have noticed that when my phone is been discharge while plugged-in it doesn't become hot and temps vary between 29c-34c. On the other hand when it is actually charging while plugged-in ( which is a rare case now) it becomes a little hot amd temps vary between 35c-41c.
On both occasion I can see the charging sign. So, to tackle this weird behavior I had recently downloaded battery monitor widget.
Despite, it won't show mA readings. It is still usefull. I started monitoring voltage and came to conclusion.
● When my phone battery actually getting charged, voltage vary between 3, 730 to upwards of 4, 000mv
● When it discharges while plugged-in (showing me fake charging sign!) Voltages hover around in 3600 - 3660 range.
I don't think voltage has anything to do with battery % ( like some people says, voltage would be around 4200mv when it 100% charged) my voltage used to be around 4000mv even when it is 100% charged.)
These mV reading fluctuates alot ! Like at 20% sometimes it shows 4082mv but sometimes it show less than 3600mv. Why is this ?
There is no dust or whatsoever in the microusb port of my phone. I just have to push charger cable down to charge my phone (which sometimes don't work --you know it also discharges most of the time while plugged-in)
Seriously what should I do ? Is there any kernal where I could raise voltage to something steady like 4000mv ?
I am lost ! Please help !
Let me know if you need any additional info !
-chairmansaab
UPDATE: So, I have found a temporary solution. Thanks to GM Siyah kernal I was able to get mA reading support on current widget.
It seems like when I push down the charger cable a little bit, it doesn't provide enough current to charge phone , so battery level decreases instead.
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But when I push cable real hard to the right side. It gives out reasonable current. It is a pain in @$$ to charge this phone now, I had to put some weigh on the cable to charge it to 100% !
I guess usb port is the culprit ? Anyone know how much it would cost to replace the USB board ? (Out of warranty now!)
Chairmansaab said:
UPDATE: So, I have found a temporary solution. Thanks to GM Siyah kernal I was able to get mA reading support on current widget.
It seems like when I push down the charger cable a little bit, it doesn't provide enough current to charge phone , so battery level decreases instead.
But when I push cable real hard to the right side. It gives out reasonable current. It is a pain in @$$ to charge this phone now, I had to put some weigh on the cable to charge it to 100% !
I guess usb port is the culprit ? Anyone know how much it would cost to replace the USB board ? (Out of warranty now!)
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first try to see u can get hold of another battery (may be on from ur friends S2) and see if the same issue persists for u on that batt also, so that u can conclude its not a batt issue for u
if there is the same issue, then u can try replacing the 'microUSB' port which might cost u around 500~800 Rs for sure (please verify with a nearest samsung service center for the exact cahrges).
Replace the USB board yourself. Quick/cheap/easy to do. A number of threads on here over the past month or so about this (what part you need to order for which SGS2 variant/pics/etc), search for those & then look on eBay/Google search to find someone who sells the part.
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first try to see u can get hold of another battery (may be on from ur friends S2) and see if the same issue persists for u on that batt also, so that u can conclude its not a batt issue for u
if there is the same issue, then u can try replacing the 'microUSB' port which might cost u around 500~800 Rs for sure (please verify with a nearest samsung service center for the exact charges).
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Damn bro, you are the only one who always reply my post !
Unfortunately, there is no one around me having Galaxy S2 or R.
Even the "nearest service center" is 50KM drive. I guess its only microusb that is giving me this problem cause I can charge battery 100% without any issue (just have to position it in wierd angle)
Are you sure its around 500-800Rs ? Last time I heard someone said it is 6500Rs !!
@MistahBungle yup bro, but I don't know which revision of usb port os installed on mine. I think there are 3-4 microusb board out there.
Is there any way to find board rev with software?
I just told you how in my PP. Search through KeithRoss39's recent posts.
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As long as @pnin believes in Old-school stuff, and he has made for us map for Guides index of poco x3 threads on XDA. I believe too that there is many users not knowing about The battery killer or To be more realistic "killers".
There Is Med-kit stuff you must follow to avoid bad battery life because:
Unhealthy battery = - performance & - life usage
Healthy battery = + performance & + life usage
So, I will set up to you tips that's makes your POCO X3 battery better.
I can be the science man and explain to you all the tips that I will mention it, but I won't just want to be easy on you and get you on the boat.
NOTE: This thread not tellings you how to optimize your rom for better SOT this about take care of your battery life.
As long as we have non-removable "Li-ion" battery, We need to:
1- low voltages is recommended for a battery’s lifespan, According to british university research, charging up your phone in that 30% to 80% range keeps the voltage lower and prolongs the battery lifespan.
2- Never play Games or watching videos while charging is bad because they distort charging cycles.
3- Try to not use your device while charging, and if you can turn it off while charging till get charged enough.
4,1- Don't ever makes your device temperature get higher because it's will kill your battery in long term. there is many ways to get your device temperature higher, such as: play while charging, put device on charging in hot place under pillow or whatever and using wrong bad kernel -_-...etc
4,2- It's recommend to take off your device case while charging, that's help to decrease temperature degree.
5- This device is not flagship device or has an expensive CPU & GPU, so stop playing heavy game with over 60 frame rate for hours ! this bad habit and will kills your battery in long term. when you feels your device get hot stop what you doing till temperature get normal.
6- If you are traveling or storing your device charge it to 80% and leave it switched off but not for more than 5~6 months. and for your knowledge you can store your device for 10 years and your battery can works after because the lithium-ion batteries shalf life 10~12 years.
7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Now, maybe you asking "Can I get step back to get my bad battery healthy again ?"
Answer : half yes ! You can't restore the water you droped on sand but you can save the rest that left
Glad to tell me If I had missed something.
Thanks in advance.
regards
any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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If I understood you, There is "smart charging" feature on some AOSP roms for poco x3 such as: Arrow os,Pixel extended,...etc
let your device when to stop charging and when to charge. It's really helpful for life spin.
I don't know if this feature same as Pixels phone that lower battery refresh rate or something common. Because there is no explain to how it's really works.
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any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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There are a couple of Magisk modules for that. YMMV.
Valuable Information thanks
From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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Thanks for this reach info. Yes it's important but you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
We can tell as you showed.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
which I believe hardcore gamers that playing games all the time using they are 33 waat charger for more than 4 times a day.
which it's a killer habit for the battery indeed.
for a normal users one charge would be enough for a full-day.
I'm charging once a day and If I playing for more than 1 hour then day and half to charge.
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[...] you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
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We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
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No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
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We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
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What I meant that there is a lot of users ( Gamers ) whom always playing (always heating) which they are don't care about temperature and charging a lot per a day will make heating most the time and will end the cycle life as soon as possible .
anyway it's not hard it easy steps and advices.
my regards
Thread Updated!
After researching I had changed common habit these days and updated number 7:
"7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries)."
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