Hi all,
Thinking about making the jump to Verizon again. My Sprint service is gotten really bad in Greensboro, NC. Sounds like the closest thing to my phone would be a Rezound in size and looks and having played with it at the store, I like it but up in the air about whether I should just hang tight for the new Incredible LTE that is coming soon or making the jump now. What would you do? Any major issues other than battery not lasting all day with this phone? I have read a lot of the threads and there does not seem to be any wide spread issues but just checking to see if I am missing something.
The Rezound has the higher resolution screen. You should be able to get it cheaper than the Inc 4G.
If you meet further conviction then check this thread out. It's a great community
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646778
Oh, I think the rezound is the best phone out.
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I also made the switch from Sprint and the Evo to the Rezound. I am happy I did because I think the 4.3" screen is a perfect size along with it being an HD Screen. I don't like how they are making all these gigantic screens now. Initially I switched for the Razr but found the bezel to way to big around the screen which made it very wide and uncomfortable to hold. The Incredible LTE also looks great and I could get by with a 4" screen as well but I would probably go with the Rezound in your situation. One thing I am not impressed with on the Rezound is the the creaky back cover which is annoying and not built well. The Evo definitely had better build quality and I hope they addressed this with the new Incredible.
I had an evo 4G and 3D. I made the switch and could not be happier with my rezound. More storage for your apps and faster processor. Getting s-off is a little more tricky but it's not that difficult. Ultimately the choice is yours but just my $. 02.
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Get the rezound! Screw the inc 4g. It would be like a downgrade. (but damn that s4 makes me jealous!)
I would wait for the inc. The battery life will likely be phenomenal. The rez gets about 2 hours of lte browsing maximum. If the inc is anything like the Att one x with the snapdragon S4 I would wait for that. The Att one x gets like 9 hours of lte browsing on a single charge.
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I would wait for the inc. The battery life will likely be phenomenal. The rez gets about 2 hours of lte browsing maximum. If the inc is anything like the Att one x with the snapdragon S4 I would wait for that. The Att one x gets like 9 hours of lte browsing on a single charge.
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Well, y'all did not make my choice any easier. Maybe I should wait for the INC LTE and take a look at it. I love my EVO with some Swag love but Sprint service is killing me.
As others have said, the Rezound is a way better screen. It is just perfect. Not microscopic like the iPhone, and not massive like the Note. Perfect size. But, if you want to get more than a few hours with 4g on, you need the extended battery.
I came from Sprint on the EVO4G to the Rezound. No regrets whatsoever. It's a sizable upgrade in terms of hardware.
The only thing you might find to your disliking is the lack of a functioning AOSP ROM like the EVO4G had. If you don't care for it, then there's nothing that should hold you back.
Just wait it out. See what you like better with both of them next to eachother. It is unwise to buy a phone that has been on the market this long. This phone has been out for about 6 months now which is AGES in the tech industry. Everything on the INC 4G will be better except the screen resolution and size depending on how large you like the screen to be.
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The INC 4G will have a qHD (960x540 display) @ 4". This is a density of 275.36 DPI
The Rezound has a 720p (1280x720) @ 4.3". This is a density of 341.54 DPI
If the Rezound had a qHD screen @ 4.3" it would be 256.15 DPI.
This all means that the qHD screen will look better in 4" than it would in 4.3" by a decent amount. So if you like a 4" screen the resolution is probably worth the trade off. Also, since you are coming from an EVO 4G @ (480 x 800) your display size was 2.21" × 3.69". This is a different aspect ratio than the qHD and 720p screens. The Rezound screen is 2.11" x 3.75." The INC 4G screen will be 1.96" × 3.49." This means that with the aspect ratio change, the INC 4G 4" screen won't be as small as a 4" inch screen that is the EVO 4G's resolution/aspect ratio.
Wow, I hope someone can make sense of that lol.
Personally the stock battery works great for me, and I do a bit of 4g browsing but you will most likely be on WiFi the majority of the time anyway. It lasts from 7 am to when I hit the hay, around 11 or 12. If you do need a bigger battery mugen has an extended that will fit in the same back cover. Check review probably of that I was going to get it but I don't really need it.
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Just wait it out. See what you like better with both of them next to eachother. It is unwise to buy a phone that has been on the market this long. This phone has been out for about 6 months now which is AGES in the tech industry. Everything on the INC 4G will be better except the screen resolution and size depending on how large you like the screen to be.
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The INC 4G will have a qHD (960x540 display) @ 4". This is a density of 275.36 DPI
The Rezound has a 720p (1280x720) @ 4.3". This is a density of 341.54 DPI
If the Rezound had a qHD screen @ 4.3" it would be 256.15 DPI.
This all means that the qHD screen will look better in 4" than it would in 4.3" by a decent amount. So if you like a 4" screen the resolution is probably worth the trade off. Also, since you are coming from an EVO 4G @ (480 x 800) your display size was 2.21" × 3.69". This is a different aspect ratio than the qHD and 720p screens. The Rezound screen is 2.11" x 3.75." The INC 4G screen will be 1.96" × 3.49." This means that with the aspect ratio change, the INC 4G 4" screen won't be as small as a 4" inch screen that is the EVO 4G's resolution/aspect ratio.
Wow, I hope someone can make sense of that lol.
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thanks that actually made sense after i read it twice
I was in the same boat but when I saw the rezound on sale for $50 on Verizon's website, I jumped on it. Network is great, call quality isn't as good as sprint but internet is amazing but I do miss my EVO. But I don't regret it
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I seriously dont think you would be disappointed in anyway with the Rezound. If you are a picture taker, no other camera compares to this one.
Good luck with whatever you pick.
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I seriously dont think you would be disappointed in anyway with the Rezound. If you are a picture taker, no other camera compares to this one.
Good luck with whatever you pick.
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I agree it has an 8mp camera like the EVO but it just blows the evos camera outta the water. Amazing camera. Battery life is sub par unless rooted though
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Inc 4g lets me down, I have little faith in Verizon to ever get anything up to date ~ by this I mean they do the smallest iota of change every new phone they accept and release
Wish I had my unlimited data plan on At&t haha
that S4 means practically nothing to me considering nothing lags on the Rezound thus far, battery life is what needs to be focused on, and camera =) I do like my camera on the go. The maxx got the battery I wished for, but Motorola is just too evil
Oh yeah... the Rezound is an awesome choice and you can't regret it
more years to come before 4g can be used off of a charger
Great phone. Fantastic specs, you can get the phone for short money. Perfect size and most importantly the radios in this phone are the strongest of all Verizon phones.
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I'll chime in as a former Evo (and Photon) user on Sprint who spends time in Greensboro; I just switched to Verizon and the Rezound, and couldn't be happier, I'd definitely recommend it. You'll definitely love the phone, and the consistently fast data speeds in NC with Verizon.
(Now I just have a ton of reading to do, since rooting/unlocking/s-off/etc seems much more complicated than with the Evo).
One other thing: since the Evo name still holds some clout, you can probably still get a decent price if you sell it - and then with that to cover part of the cost, it couldn't hurt to shop around on craigslist or swappa for very gently used Rezounds if you want to just start a line with Verizon without using the discount just yet (that's what I did, although I'm so happy with this phone I may not need that upgrade for quite awhile).
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My contract was up in July but until now there haven't been any phones worth buying. Now the RAZR is out and the Nexus is coming. My phone is literally falling apart and doesn't charge anymore, I have to the wife's phone to charge my battery.
I went and looked at the RAZR and I was really impressed. I liked it a lot but I'm still not sure I want it more than the Nexus.
Do any of you guys have buyers remorse? Do you wish you had held out for the nexus? Originally I thought the nexus would be out by now and I would simply be able to compare the two devices, but now its not clear if the Nexus will be out before december and I really don't think my phone will make it that long.
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My contract was up in July but until now there haven't been any phones worth buying. Now the RAZR is out and the Nexus is coming. My phone is literally falling apart and doesn't charge anymore, I have to the wife's phone to charge my battery.
I went and looked at the RAZR and I was really impressed. I liked it a lot but I'm still not sure I want it more than the Nexus.
Do any of you guys have buyers remorse? Do you wish you had held out for the nexus? Originally I thought the nexus would be out by now and I would simply be able to compare the two devices, but now its not clear if the Nexus will be out before december and I really don't think my phone will make it that long.
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You can buy it now (Nov. 15th-Dec. 28th) and be able to return it until Jan. 9th. If the Galaxy Nexus comes out by then, I'm probably going to return the Razr because of the Super AMOLED HD screen and Ice Cream Sandwich. Gonna miss the build quality though, Samsung and their plastic, lol.
I would never go back to a Samsung again, ever, if at all possible. Had the fascinate & had so many missed call issues that vzw gave me the Droid x2 as a free upgrade only 9mos into my contract w/o interfering with my last yearly upgrade eligibility. The x2 has been flawless & the only reason I cashed in my upgrade was because my wife's Dinc crapped out & she loved my x2, so she has that now & I have the Razr & everyone's happy.
Seriously though, if you are in any type of marginal signal area & you need your phone to be a phone, I'd go Razr.
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No regrets here. Really like the phone.
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Went from BB to Fascinate to ThunderBolt to Razr. I really like the weight and thin ness of the Razr. I prefer the size of the Fascinate as it is overall smaller but thicker.
No remorse, love the phone.
Totally loving this phone, had it yesterday. I have nothing really as a downside, had an Xperia X10 before so I feel like this phone is way more snappy and quick than the other! I chose it because I have no idea when the Galaxy Nexus will come to Canada and we get the candies always late lol. Now once it's in Canada, I have to wait for Rogers to get it.. so probably the Ice Cream Sandwich update will be out at this time for the RAZR. Totally not regretting my choice!
Came from Droid X to Razr, I would never look back. I just rooted it with zero issues! No citation roms yet but that's ok, this phone is crazy fast and so thin! Yes, battery life is not great but hey, its 4G LTE!
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so far the only thing holding me back from buying the razr is the screen. I want to know how it compares to other screens, especially the new HTC <stupid name I can't remember but has something to do with audio>. I heard HTC has a very impressive screen.
compared to the other current phone , razr's screen can't really compete in terms of ppi.
What I want to know is if this is really something I would notice or should care about?
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so far the only thing holding me back from buying the razr is the screen. I want to know how it compares to other screens, especially the new HTC <stupid name I can't remember but has something to do with audio>. I heard HTC has a very impressive screen.
compared to the other current phone , razr's screen can't really compete in terms of ppi.
What I want to know is if this is really something I would notice or should care about?
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You mean HTC ReZound??
Yea, this is the highest DPI out in the market. BUT, HTC is infamous for giving a very high dpi with an equally bad battery life... the HTC Desire (or was it Desire HD?) needs to be charged at least twice a day...no matter what others say, thats bad...
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You can buy it now (Nov. 15th-Dec. 28th) and be able to return it until Jan. 9th. If the Galaxy Nexus comes out by then, I'm probably going to return the Razr because of the Super AMOLED HD screen and Ice Cream Sandwich. Gonna miss the build quality though, Samsung and their plastic, lol.
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The reviews of the Rezound for the "HD" screen states theres not much difference between its screen and the RAZRs screen. Also its like 13.7 mm thick, so it's your choice on what you want to do.
well, i regret buying the razr because for some reason my razr has the green tint problem on low brightness, and black spots inside the screen when viewing something black, maybe a defective screen or a pre-release model, but sent it in to motorola to check it out, but other than that, if it was a pre-release, its a perfect phone.
as far as the ppi goes, its more than anyone needs, honestly, the only ppl who care about ppi vs ppi are spec whores, this phone is great and gives ppl the ;'wow'factor, and makes the iphone4s boys go jealous =p
CanI ask why screen res and ppi is really that important? Movies and games look perfect to me on the gaint razr screen and crappy on the tiny retina iphone screen.
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Coming from an Atrix 4G, no regrets. This is super fast,thin, stylish, strong and yet feels like a feather.
Looked at a Rezound next to my Razr at a vzw store yesterday & I feel totally vindicated for buying the Razr. The difference in ppi was not immediately noticeable under normal lighting & text looked fine on both. The color reproduction on the Razr's amoled screen was better & it was brighter overall @ low brightness. What got me was how much snappier the Razr seemed. Ran smartbench 2011 on each & the Razr scored better as well. The Rezound looks like a bigger Incredible2 & doesn't have the heft of the Tbolt or Evo.
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Came from Droid X to Razr, I would never look back. I just rooted it with zero issues! No citation roms yet but that's ok, this phone is crazy fast and so thin! Yes, battery life is not great but hey, its 4G LTE!
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Root was easy? Do you know if wifi tether apk works with rooted Razr? May upgrade from my dinc soon
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well, i regret buying the razr because for some reason my razr has the green tint problem on low brightness, and black spots inside the screen when viewing something black, maybe a defective screen or a pre-release model, but sent it in to motorola to check it out, but other than that, if it was a pre-release, its a perfect phone.
as far as the ppi goes, its more than anyone needs, honestly, the only ppl who care about ppi vs ppi are spec whores, this phone is great and gives ppl the ;'wow'factor, and makes the iphone4s boys go jealous =p
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Your screen shouldn't have a green tint, I'd look into getting a replacement. AS for the black "blotches" during load screens and some black screens that has been confirmed as "normal" per motorola. They stated it will not get in the way of your viewing pleasure. I've only had the black blotches on like scene changes in some netflix movies/load screens. So really it's not a big deal at all, as it doesn't interfere with anything. If you see it all the time, then it just reaffirms that you have a defective screen.
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Looked at a Rezound next to my Razr at a vzw store yesterday & I feel totally vindicated for buying the Razr. The difference in ppi was not immediately noticeable under normal lighting & text looked fine on both. The color reproduction on the Razr's amoled screen was better & it was brighter overall @ low brightness. What got me was how much snappier the Razr seemed. Ran smartbench 2011 on each & the Razr scored better as well. The Rezound looks like a bigger Incredible2 & doesn't have the heft of the Tbolt or Evo.
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Rezound benches lower than RAZR on pretty much every test. Even in everyday performance RAZR > Rezound. Rezound gets choppy/laggy with live wallpaper, slapped some on my RAZR and no choppiness at all. I guess that's why they added the $100 headphones with it! To make up for the poor performance in todays smartphone market.
How is the thickness from left to right of the screen? Is it as hard to hold as some of the reviews are saying? Do any of you have a case on it, I would think that would make it even wider.
It is pretty wide. I just got mine today. Thought I'd try it out, see how development progresses for the first month or so, and see how the Nexus pans out in real life. The Verizon extended return period really helps.
But, like I was saying, it's pretty wide. I have a case on it - the kickstand case/holster combo from vzw - because I want it to be in good shape if I decide to return. It's slightly wider with the case, but even naked, I have a hard time reaching down to the menu button. That's the one that seems to be hardest to me. Other than that one button, it feels good in the hand and I can touch the rest of the screen.
Thanks, I always need a somewhat thick case on my phone so I don't think the Razr will work for me. Appreciate the feedback. I'll probably end up going with the nexus even though it is a fairly wide phone it self...
Just got mine, it is wide, if you have McD's hands then yea you will have a hard time, even though I got Burger King hands this phone took a lil to get used too. Once you hold this phone you don't want to put it down. My wifes ryme feels like a brick compared to this machine, in fact every phone feels heavy. Was waiting for the G-Nex but really happy with the Razr. One bug found so far, nothing major. This thing is FAST!!! Waiting to root, but even w/o root it's still fast. Motorola did a good job with this one.
Hi bro.
It looks like Rezound is the best spec of HTC 2011, but not really that good for my expectation (Display PPI or battery or SW ICS....). Just wonder which main feature you guys look forward to most for your next HTC phone?? HTC should hear our voice for better strategy!
Seems like you have unrealistic expectations.
I'm a big fan of the call button since it is a phone.
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
I'm confused. Are you saying the display has too many PPI, or are you saying it doesn't have enough?
Idk how the displays ppi isn't up to your expectations... I think it's beautiful. What were you expecting, 4k x 2k?
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It has 342 ppi, higher than any phone that curre.tly exists. How can you complain
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It has 342 ppi, higher than any phone that curre.tly exists. How can you complain
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Cause he's a nexus fan boy and likes dem pixelated displays.
For me, I think the resolution of the display is about the max you could need in a phone for at least the foreseeable future. Finding individual pixels on this screen is very difficult.
The current performance level is good as well, though who can complain if given more. LOL
All I really want now is better battery life, and a 4 inch screen with a design that fits the hand well. (large screens plus thin profile is uncomfortable to hold and use one handed... think Razr)
I find that the large screens are just getting too big for day to day use, comfort, and ease. 4.3 inch is really the largest I can stand (or really the overall phone size for this range. the Rezound reaches the max size I can be comfortable using) If I could have a device that was similar in size to my old MT4G with a 4 inch screen, current gen dual core, good battery life, and 720p resolution I would be ecstatic.
Even the battery complaint is puzzling. All top shelf Android phones stink in the longevity dept. That problem definitely wouldn't be solved by going to the nexus or razr. From the inspire on att to the droid charge, to the droid bionic, to the rezound, battery life hasn't strayed too far, regardless of specs. But i would definitely like to see all the manufacturers, and Google work on battery management and capacity.
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Even the battery complaint is puzzling. All top shelf Android phones stink in the longevity dept. That problem definitely wouldn't be solved by going to the nexus or razr. From the inspire on att to the droid charge, to the droid bionic, to the rezound, battery life hasn't strayed too far, regardless of specs. But i would definitely like to see all the manufacturers, and Google work on battery management and capacity.
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Yeah better efficiency in both hardware and software is needed.
And getting back to reasonable size screens would help too.
I would like to see the next best come with an unlocked bootloader :-D and have the HTC hub and such
I might prefer a 4" in the past, but only because I hated that all the larger screens had the same resolution as smaller screens making them pixalated, though I can say I do enjoy the extra screen space on the rezound thanks to the high dpi and rez.. I would maybe like to see an led screen without any lines/banding that doesn't over saturate colors. But the SLCD completely satisfies me anyway because it does not have those issues
Everyone wants better battery life of course. I'm impressed by the life I get from my phone. I can easily go all day without charging it...
Maybe an optical rear camera, and a next generation processor and GPU? Hell idk what else other than continuing to optimize android OS and making it even better.
Oh and I guess nfc options lol
Edit: it would also be nice if the re-designed the LED notification light to something a little more visible and multi colored, possibly maybe make one of the soft keys glow or something neat.
As well as multi color soft keys. Though if they moved away from softkeys, I wouldn't mind if they did others might have preference, they should also make on-screen keys color changeable as well.
This is my first HTC phone and honestly might be my last since Verizon doesn't like their stance on unlocking phones. Besides that, when I'm up for a new phone I'm going to compare the specs of all available manufacturers/models instead of being a brand whore and taking up whatever my "fave" is dropping in that time frame.
Battery issues will be over in a few years. Researches are developing a new way to build l-io batteries. These batteries will take 15 to charge and last a few days. Search my posts , I linked the article a few weeks back
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I would like to see the next best come with an unlocked bootloader :-D
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+1!
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I like how you addressed the entire forum as "bro"
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Why can't all phones come unlocked and bloat free?
I would like my next phone implanted into my brain. Unlocked of course
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On the PPI discussion, I would be curious to know the theoretical maximum beyond which the unaided human eye can no longer discern a difference. I'm sure someone has done the research.
Unlocked bootloader and nfc
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This phone is absolutely awesome. The ONLY drawback it has (and its a MAJOR one unfortunately) is the S-ON lockdown.
After doing a little research, I have discovered that our Rezound quite possibly boasts a higher screen quality than any other device on the market (even the One X's screen isn't as good).
Although a handful of phones share the same resolution as ours, nothing comes close to the 342ppi that we have.
If someone can inform me otherwise, I'd love to know, please!
Thank you for your time,
Jim
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According to this, the only other phone that matches are our is the Xperia S by Sony. Everything else the Rezound has the edge on.
Awww man
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Hell, tied for first is fine by me!
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Ours was released like 4-5 months earlier too so we were way ahead of the curve.
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Ours was released like 4-5 months earlier too so we were way ahead of the curve.
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Lol HTC is always ahead of the curve... Jk
Resolution is not the only thing which goes into screen quality, and "quality" itself is largely subjective. Although the Rezound isn't included, this article shows some things other than resolution which go into screen quality.
You got a great phone!!! I am just as guilty, but there is always something better coming around the corner. As for all-around solid, radios, CPU & GPU, sound (not just beats), and display, rezound is hard to beat. Throw in the great dev community, I wouldn't trade it for any other phone.
Yeah our phone has a higher ppi, but would you rather have a bigger screen or better ppi which is unnoticeable after 300ish.
I'd go for a bigger screen any day.
Fujiwutisuwabasabi made a phone that crammed a 1080 display in a 4.6in display, making it have an amazing 478.89 PPI
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/fujitsu-quad-core-phone-hands-on-video/
I have a One X now that I'm returning due to the gray strobe problem and I'm considering the Incredible 4G instead.
Can anyone comment on the screen technology? The One X screen, other than the flicker, is fantastic looking. Almost like an image floating on water.
Looking at the specs, it seems like the Incredible doesn't have the same screen technology as my One X, perhaps something lower end (S-LCD vs. Super IPS LCD2).
Any comments on how different the Incredible 4G's screen will look next to a One X? I can't find a YouTube review that talks specifically to this aspect.
I still think the Dinc4G has an SLCD2 based on what reviewers have said about the screen. A lot of people compared it to the One X's screen. SLCD2 is A LOT better than SLCD. Colors won't be as vibrant as a SAMOLED's though. It should definitely be better than the Rezounds even if its just plain SLCD. Perhaps your issue was just with the phone? The Dinc4G might not have this problem even if it has SLCD2
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I still think the Dinc4G has an SLCD2 based on what reviewers have said about the screen. A lot of people compared it to the One X's screen. SLCD2 is A LOT better than SLCD. Colors won't be as vibrant as a SAMOLED's though. It should definitely be better than the Rezounds even if its just plain SLCD. Perhaps your issue was just with the phone? The Dinc4G might not have this problem even if it has SLCD2
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The problem with the One X, if hardware, was probably related to the Tegra 3 chipset or maybe the backlight or something. A lot of people were saying it was software, but my return window was running out so I didn't want to take any chances.
In general, I don't like SAMOLEDs and I would prefer something with IPS, like the One X, just no flicker.
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I still think the Dinc4G has an SLCD2 based on what reviewers have said about the screen. A lot of people compared it to the One X's screen. SLCD2 is A LOT better than SLCD. Colors won't be as vibrant as a SAMOLED's though. It should definitely be better than the Rezounds even if its just plain SLCD. Perhaps your issue was just with the phone? The Dinc4G might not have this problem even if it has SLCD2
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I would be really surprised if it was SLCD2, since the press release specifically said SLCD and did not tout the display in a manner that would be consistent with an SLCD2 display. Also, I've seen zero rumors that it might be SLCD2.
That said, it still should be pretty nice. As you said, some of the people that went hands-on with it at CTIA compared it favorably to the One X's display. The guy at the Verge said: "the screen seems to match the high bar set by the One X, just at a smaller size and resolution"
Also, I'm not sure where you're getting the "It should definitely be better than the Rezounds even if its just plain SLCD" statement from. The Rezound is SLCD too, and it's got a crazy-high pixel density of 342ppi. The Inc 4G is better than the Rezound in a lot of ways (mostly everything), but the display is not among them.
Getting back to TheAndroidSwap's original issue, it doesn't really sound like a display problem... more likely a problem with software and/or other hardware (although I'm not that familiar with this issue, and I suppose that's not really the point anyway).
I am curious what carrier he's on where both the One X and the Incredible 4G are options. Kidding of course... but I'm sure he'd have to pay some sort of exorbitant cancellation fees to switch to Verizon, no?
Also, I think you (TheAndroidSwap) should probably consider more than just the display technology... The actual size of the display could be a factor if you're coming from a One X. I know, for me, the 4" screen on the Inc 4G is perfect. But if you got a One X with it's 4.7" screen, it would appear that a large screen is something that you value. Even though I don't quite understand how you can change carriers so easily (perhaps you just have a lot of money), I would certainly recommend spending a few minutes with a phone with a 4" screen to make sure that's a jump you can really make.
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I am curious what carrier he's on where both the One X and the Incredible 4G are options. Kidding of course... but I'm sure he'd have to pay some sort of exorbitant cancellation fees to switch to Verizon, no?
Also, I think you (TheAndroidSwap) should probably consider more than just the display technology... The actual size of the display could be a factor if you're coming from a One X. I know, for me, the 4" screen on the Inc 4G is perfect. But if you got a One X with it's 4.7" screen, it would appear that a large screen is something that you value. Even though I don't quite understand how you can change carriers so easily (perhaps you just have a lot of money), I would certainly recommend spending a few minutes with a phone with a 4" screen to make sure that's a jump you can really make.
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I bought the Tegra3 HTC One X unlocked on newegg and used it on my existing out of contract AT&T account. If I get an Incredible 4G, I'll probably sign a new contract to get the double data plan.
Screen size is less of an issue for me than technology. I do agree the screen on the One X is kinda big, and made using the phone one handed pretty rough, but I just can't stand lower rez / pentile screens.
I looked at the Rezound but I think it's kind of thick compared to the Incredible 4G. I'm also hoping the smaller screen will improve battery life too.
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I bought the Tegra3 HTC One X unlocked on newegg and used it on my existing out of contract AT&T account. If I get an Incredible 4G, I'll probably sign a new contract to get the double data plan.
Screen size is less of an issue for me than technology. I do agree the screen on the One X is kinda big, and made using the phone one handed pretty rough, but I just can't stand lower rez / pentile screens.
I looked at the Rezound but I think it's kind of thick compared to the Incredible 4G. I'm also hoping the smaller screen will improve battery life too.
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OK, that sounds fine then. Just wanted to make sure you didn't get disappointed by the 4" screen after having used the 4.7", but it sounds like you didn't particularly care for larger size anyway.
Battery life should be good. How good is difficult to say, but it shouldn't disappoint in that regard (especially considering the fact that it's removable!)
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I would be really surprised if it was SLCD2, since the press release specifically said SLCD and did not tout the display in a manner that would be consistent with an SLCD2 display. Also, I've seen zero rumors that it might be SLCD2.
That said, it still should be pretty nice. As you said, some of the people that went hands-on with it at CTIA compared it favorably to the One X's display. The guy at the Verge said: "the screen seems to match the high bar set by the One X, just at a smaller size and resolution"
Also, I'm not sure where you're getting the "It should definitely be better than the Rezounds even if its just plain SLCD" statement from. The Rezound is SLCD too, and it's got a crazy-high pixel density of 342ppi. The Inc 4G is better than the Rezound in a lot of ways (mostly everything), but the display is not among them.
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I, personally, don't like the Rezound's display. Pixel density makes little difference to me because I can barely tell the difference between qHD and HD on anything lower than a 4.3" screen. The Rezound's display is far too dim for me, and colors are washed out, unlike SAMOLED where colors are vibrant and bright. The Incredible 4G's display has been called "very bright" so I'm not worrying about it being too dim as much as I'm worrying about the color quality. Gaming and watching movies look better on a SAMOLED screen as opposed to an SLCD screen.
The reason I think it might be SLCD2(or some other improved technology), is because people compared to the One X's screen, as opposed to the Rezound's screen. Now if the Incredible 4G and the Rezound had the exact same screen technology, why wouldn't they compare those two phones as opposed to the One X? Reviewers remarked that the image appears to be very close to the display, like the One X, which is a feature of the SLCD2 technology.
I think the reason people compare the Inc 4G to the One X is because the Inc 4G is basically the One series phone on verizon. It makes more sense to make that comparison.
I'm skeptical that its SLCD 2 but who knows.
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pentile screens.
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Just because it's qHD doesn't mean it's Pentile, which it isn't.
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I think the reason people compare the Inc 4G to the One X is because the Inc 4G is basically the One series phone on verizon. It makes more sense to make that comparison.
I'm skeptical that its SLCD 2 but who
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Yes, that, plus the fact that the One X's display is essentially the gold standard right now.
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Just because it's qHD doesn't mean it's Pentile, which it isn't.
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I'm not sure that he was trying to imply that it was. I think he was mostly just saying that, in general, those are some of the things that he looks to avoid.
(or maybe you are right and he was confused)
So I got my DInc4g this past weekend and I'm loving the phone, I chose it over the new GS3. Today I was playing around with a coworkers Google Nexus and it's pretty damn nice. I have been an iphone user since my XPeria X10. So I'm not hip on the whole current android universe.
Looking at specs... The nexus and the DInc4g seem pretty close, except the camera. I like the size of the nexus, it's the middle ground between the two other phones. And JB runs super smooth on it.
I'm still in my window to exchange this phone for the nexus. So I'm reaching out for opinions.
Nexus or DInc4g? Or can somebody convince me to wait 2 days for the SG3?
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So I got my DInc4g this past weekend and I'm loving the phone, I chose it over the new GS3. Today I was playing around with a coworkers Google Nexus and it's pretty damn nice. I have been an iphone user since my XPeria X10. So I'm not hip on the whole current android universe.
Looking at specs... The nexus and the DInc4g seem pretty close, except the camera. I like the size of the nexus, it's the middle ground between the two other phones. And JB runs super smooth on it.
I'm still in my window to exchange this phone for the nexus. So I'm reaching out for opinions.
Nexus or DInc4g? Or can somebody convince me to wait 2 days for the SG3?
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its all personal preference really, i think the biggest 2 things are this:
1) what screen size/form factor is best for you
2) what version of android do you like running? if you get the nexus you ll always have the most up to date (well for 2 years or so) stock versions of android..and you can get miui w/ it to....if you get the gs3 you ll (probably) get aosp versions and have tw roms...witht his (hopefully) we ll have aosp at some point, but primarily sense roms
and price is a factor to some extent (if using an upgrade to purchase)
I can't give you any info on the SG3 but I can give you a direct comparison on the Inc 4g and the GNex.
I purchased both phones at the same time as I was curious on which would be better for my needs. I was a little on the fence about the Inc with it having a smaller screen than my current phone (Rezound). So I played with both over the weekend and the Inc 4g won me over hands down.
The GNex is a very nice phone, don't get me wrong, but the battery life is absolutely abysmal. I thought the Rezound had battery issues! The GNex had really bad signal as well. The Inc 4g had about 2 bars of signal and the GNex was telling me to connect to wifi sitting next to each other. So I played around with some kernels and different roms for the GNex to see if it would get any better on signal and battery life. Nothing helped in a serious manner. The amoled screen on the GNex is pretty nice as you dont get the washed out blacks like you do on an SLCD screen. But comparing the two screens next to each other, I preferred the Inc 4g as far as overall color and sharpness was concerned.
The lack of an SD card was a major drawback for me as well, by the time I copied my music over to the GNex my left over space was very limited. The dev community on the GNex is huge though. If you're a flashaholic...the GNex is for you. If you want your phone to last a full day and then some...get an Inc 4g.
Would also like to point out that the speed tests I ran on a 4g connection, the Inc 4g won on every test. Usually by 5Mbps on the download and 2Mbps on the upload. This was consistent on every test.
Screen size is your other determining factor. If you prefer a large screen...GNex. The Inc 4g has a smaller screen but there are no issues with reading anything on it. It's very clear, so don't assume a smaller screen is a harder screen to read. I've found the larger the screen, the worse off the battery life is. GNex takes it to a whole new level on battery drain though. I have used many phones over the years and the GNex is the absolute worst on battery life I have ever seen. Even with an extended battery you more than likely will not last an entire day with moderate use.
As far as the Inc 4g, I really don't have any complaints. Its extremely responsive, no lag that I have noticed and the battery life is the best I've seen from a smartphone to date. There is only one thing that in my opinion could make this phone better...Amoled screen. But the only thing you'd gain is the pure blacks you just don't get with LCD technology.
Hope it helps a little. I like both phones very much. Really it comes down to screen size and what your willing to put up with from your battery.
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and price is a factor to some extent (if using an upgrade to purchase)
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GNex and Inc4g are the same price ($149)...GS3...omfg
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GNex and Inc4g are the same price ($149)...GS3...omfg
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depends on where you buy it...directly from vzw yes, but its still 40 for inc on letstalk...not sure what the best gnex deal is...and havent really seen any sgs3 deals (cuz it was preorder) just 199/249 from vzw
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depends on where you buy it...directly from vzw yes, but its still 40 for inc on letstalk...not sure what the best gnex deal is...and havent really seen any sgs3 deals (cuz it was preorder) just 199/249 from vzw
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Good point there, you are absolutely right.
I haven't heard good things about the Nexus on Verizon. 2 of my coworkers has it. One with Verizon, he complained about it. Idk if the other is on Verizon
The galaxy nexus is horrid on Verizon... I had and the phone battery is the worst I have ever expierenced... Mind u I have had the thunderbolt and the original Razr... Yes nexus now has JB but soon we will too... Remember this phone just came out last week lol... Without any hacks and scripts this phone is crazy fast... Just imagine what will happen a few months from now and we could really hack into this thing and bring out its true power... Galaxy S3 is a power house don't get me wrong but people who talk on in looks like they talking on a Gameboy lol
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My coworker has a JB nexus with 3 hrs screen on time. I've only heard people complain about battery life if they don't use custom roms. Also, it's sort of asking for poor battery life if you don't use system toggles. Does anybody have a fully modded nexus that can comment on the battery life? Or even with the extended battery?
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I don't have either the Nexus, or the INC 4g, but I do have the OG INC, and I think what the guys said above should spell it out, pretty clear.
I actually went in a VZ store yesterday to ask the folks about some changes to my plan coming up, and while I was there I wanted to see what the INC 4g looked like compared to my OG INC, and maybe even the GS3.
Well, the INC 4g was the same size as my phone in an otterbox, so I figure it will be even slightly bigger, if I get it and will get an otterbox covering it. It was a little laggy though, but hell, the store model had so many dang icons on the top, with gps and everything going on, it didn't suprise me, guess the clerks have downloaded everything under the sun on that thing. I liked what I saw though, and sense 4.0 looked kind of refreshing, nice. The viewable screen is a little more than I currently have with the OG INC, which was cool.
Now, I was disappointed I couldn't actually lay my hands on a GS3, I wanted to compare the two, and they don't have one in the store, but yet you can preorder the damn thing, well that to me sucks.
However, I did see a Nexus, and my first reaction was,. WTF, that damn thing needs a saddle bag strapped on my waist to hold it, lol. I mean, I thought it was just too damn big, and if I've read the information on here right, the GS3 is even slightly bigger. Well that concluded my interview, I do not want a tablet for a phone, and that was the impression I got, so if you like em big, then you might just dig the GS3 or Nexus.
Funny though, I was listening to a sales rep, talking with some potential customers, and I don't consider myself to be an expert, but, this fool was talking about how in another two days the new Nexus was hitting the store, and I had to laugh at that. Also, he compared the Droid 2 to the INC 4g, as far as speeds and overall phone similarities, oh brother, these guys are really up to snuff on their products...
Haha wow... Some reps really need to learn what they talk about before opening their own mouths smh
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I just noticed after playing around a little, if you remove the tabs at the bottom of the app launcher you could fit 6 rows in there easily...
...there's a dev somewhere going "you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you have any idea what that involves?"
Don't shoot!
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Haha wow... Some reps really need to learn what they talk about before opening their own mouths smh
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I learned a loooong time ago not to listen to reps in the store.
I was swapping out the GNex i had for the Inc 4g today and the girl told me I shouldn't do that cause the HTC phones are much worse for battery than the phone i had...all I could do was sigh at her. She then proceeded to tell me that the SG3 was a great phone and couldn't understand why I was trading it in. Some people were just born at the wrong end of the stupid meter.
Don't get me wrong, there are some great reps out there, but they are extremely few and far between.
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I just noticed after playing around a little, if you remove the tabs at the bottom of the app launcher you could fit 6 rows in there easily...
...there's a dev somewhere going "you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you have any idea what that involves?"
Don't shoot!
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I learned a loooong time ago not to listen to reps in the store.
I was swapping out the GNex i had for the Inc 4g today and the girl told me I shouldn't do that cause the HTC phones are much worse for battery than the phone i had...all I could do was sigh at her. She then proceeded to tell me that the SG3 was a great phone and couldn't understand why I was trading it in. Some people were just born at the wrong end of the stupid meter.
Don't get me wrong, there are some great reps out there, but they are extremely few and far between.
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Haha indeed... I freaking love this phone... It's so fast and speedy and the battery has been great so far.. imagine how our device will be once nodded or JB is installed
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I also pre-ordered a SG3 to keep my unlimited and have been thinking of (probably will) exchange for an Inc4g.
I've been reading alot of reviews of the Incredible 4g and SG3 and find it strange that the Inc4g is mostly described as a disappointment, under-powered and not much of an upgrade where the SG3 is mostly described has a flagship top-of-the-line phone. However when I look at the specs, they look "pretty much" the same.
CPU: Same CPU model, 1.2Ghz vs 1.5Ghz, I doubt 300Mhz is a noticable difference especially since you're probably running at a lower freq most of the time anyways
Screen: GS3 has slightly higher pixel density (306 vs 275)
Dimensions: GS3 is thinner but larger
Battery: GS3 has larger but as long as I can get through a day, whats the difference?
Skin: Sense vs TouchWiz, I think most people prefer Sense
Camera: Both 8MP, Inc has a F2.2 vs F2.6 lens, but GS3 may have a better chip?
Everything else, GPU, weight, etc, is almost exactly the same.
I would use the same argument to choose the Inc4g. People say the Inc4g isnt worth it because it is too much like the rezound. I say the SG3 isnt worth it because its too much like the Inc4g and I dont want to give up the ability to use my phone with one hand or fit it in my pocket. If they were both 4in, I might go for the GS3 since its thinner and slightly higher speced, but it doesnt seem worth it.
I walked around to verizon, sprint, tmobile to compare. I hope that verizon finally has a SG3 now so I can compare them in the store side by side.
First time posting on XDA, been watching and learning for a long time...
I was in the same boat as the op, until this morning at my local VZW Corp store. First, I love my Rezound, the screen is top notch, accurate color representation. With an art and photography background, this is number 1 thing I look at and require, a great screen. But because of the hype, I had to check out the SG3 to see for myself. Talk about major letdown. Dim, dim ,dim screen is all I can say. Google home page is white, not gray like I saw this morning. The LG models looked crisper sitting next to it. And brightness was at max. Touch wiz is ok, too muddy and jumbled.
Next I looked at the Dinc4g, and man what a difference. No lag, great feel in hand, and a clean, crisp, bright screen. Really felt like the little brother to my Rezound, only snappier. If the Dinc4g had a screen in the 4.3 - 4.7 inch size, I would have left the store with one. Not a big dealbreaker, but would need more time to adjust to the size.
Ram size, proc speed really is not an issue, unless you are doing video editing, photo editing, etc in which case that is what a desktop is for. I personally like the Dinc4g for its clean UI, snappy feel, build quality, and clean/bright screen. May end up getting it to replace my old dx the wife uses.
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Welcome aboard!
Yeah, the screen size is definitely smaller, but really I don't even notice it until I hit websites in desktop mode. But the pinch/zoom fixes that up nicely. Overall I wouldn't be happier with any other phone. The battery life is amazing on the Inc 4g. I honesty don't know how they did it...it's just...remarkable.
Really? Dim? I did not notice any difference in the displays. Ofcourse I had to look at the SG3 in a sprint or tmobile, then goto a verizon to look at the Inc4g so I never saw them side by side.
I'm thinking the two phones are pretty much equal. If you prefer a larger phone, the the SG3, if you prefer a smaller one, then the Inc4g.
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Really? Dim? I did not notice any difference in the displays. Ofcourse I had to look at the SG3 in a sprint or tmobile, then goto a verizon to look at the Inc4g so I never saw them side by side.
I'm thinking the two phones are pretty much equal. If you prefer a larger phone, the the SG3, if you prefer a smaller one, then the Inc4g.
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Agree, 2 phones are equal, comes down to UI and size.
Regards to dim screen, next to my Rezound and Dinc4g in store, yes sg3 not nearly as bright. The whites were not white. There is an article also confirming screen illumination. Sorry, can't post a link yet. Not nit picking, all a matter of personal preference. Still both are good devices and no matter which one folks go with, they will be more than pleased with the experience.
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I'm thinking the two phones are pretty much equal. If you prefer a larger phone, the the SG3, if you prefer a smaller one, then the Inc4g.
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Agree, 2 phones are equal, comes down to UI and size.
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I'm quoting these parts of these two posts in particular because I feel like we need to start seeing that sentiment expressed more often. The way people on the internet seem to talk about this phone versus the GS3 is ridiculous. They make it seem like they're two totally different phones and the SGS3 is so ultimately superior in every way, when they have the same operating system, the same chipset (with the Incredible underclocked by 0.3 GHz which only serves to extend battery life and is not noticeable in everyday tasks, not to mention the fact that it can easily be overclocked to its original 1.5 GHz), and roughly equivalent-performance battery capacities when you take into account the SGS3's dramatically larger screen. This phone has been panned in multiple reviews I've read about being "stuck in the past" or "not up to the standards expected at the $200 price tag today" but the only phones out right now at the $200 price level in the same class as this phone are the SGS3 and HTC's own One series of phones, both of which have significantly larger screens. It all seems like Samsung's shelling out a lot of dollars to get major media outlets to make this phone look like a dinosaur when it just isn't.
(Also, one review called this phone "too thick and bulky"--seriously? I'm not really interested in carrying around a sheet of window glass. This phone's thickness will do just fine.)
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I'm quoting these parts of these two posts in particular because I feel like we need to start seeing that sentiment expressed more often. The way people on the internet seem to talk about this phone versus the GS3 is ridiculous. They make it seem like they're two totally different phones and the SGS3 is so ultimately superior in every way, when they have the same operating system, the same chipset (with the Incredible underclocked by 0.3 GHz which only serves to extend battery life and is not noticeable in everyday tasks, not to mention the fact that it can easily be overclocked to its original 1.5 GHz), and roughly equivalent-performance battery capacities when you take into account the SGS3's dramatically larger screen. This phone has been panned in multiple reviews I've read about being "stuck in the past" or "not up to the standards expected at the $200 price tag today" but the only phones out right now at the $200 price level in the same class as this phone are the SGS3 and HTC's own One series of phones, both of which have significantly larger screens. It all seems like Samsung's shelling out a lot of dollars to get major media outlets to make this phone look like a dinosaur when it just isn't.
(Also, one review called this phone "too thick and bulky"--seriously? I'm not really interested in carrying around a sheet of window glass. This phone's thickness will do just fine.)
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Is the Inc4g actually underclocked 1.2ghz or is it an actual 1.2Ghz cpu? I know the difference is minimal, but it makes a difference when overclocking and stability. If I recall, most phones run at a lower frequency to save power and only jump up to the max speed when you need it (launching an app, games, etc) so they may literally be running the same speed most of the time. As for the battery life, I haven't been able to find a review of both phones where they used the exact same technique to measure battery life so I have no idea how much of a difference it is. I assumed that the GS3 is better because its larger. Yes the screen is larger, but it is probably also off a majority of the time. I do wish the phone were thinner and lighter but I guess that is a personal preference just like how some people want a bigger screen.
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Is the Inc4g actually underclocked 1.2ghz or is it an actual 1.2Ghz cpu? I know the difference is minimal, but it makes a difference when overclocking and stability. If I recall, most phones run at a lower frequency to save power and only jump up to the max speed when you need it (launching an app, games, etc) so they may literally be running the same speed most of the time. As for the battery life, I haven't been able to find a review of both phones where they used the exact same technique to measure battery life so I have no idea how much of a difference it is. I assumed that the GS3 is better because its larger. Yes the screen is larger, but it is probably also off a majority of the time. I do wish the phone were thinner and lighter but I guess that is a personal preference just like how some people want a bigger screen.
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HTC claimed that the processor was "totally different" when the phone was originally announced, but it has since been confirmed that the Incredible 4G has an MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 chipset inside, which is the same chipset as the one clocked at 1.5 GHz in the SGS3 and other phones. Obviously, we will know better once the development on this phone moves forward how stable this phone is at 1.5 GHz, but since there is no record of a 1.2 GHz MSM8960 being produced by anyone, the assumption (and the repeated statement in many reviews/articles about this phone) is that it is an underclocked processor.
The GS3 has a 2200 mAh battery versus the Incredible's 1700 mAh battery, which would be a big difference if the two phones were comparable, but due to the GS3's higher clock and bigger screen, the difference is much less pronounced. The GS3 probably does have better battery life in real-world usage than the Incredible 4G, since, as you say, the screen is off most of the time, but the difference is not as pronounced as some reviews may lead you to believe. A 4.8" screen has to light up significantly more area than a 4.0" screen, and given that these phones are a lot more efficient CPU-wise than previous generations thanks to the S4, the screen is now by far the biggest pull on the battery (62-80% on my Inc 4G depending on how many voice calls I make).
The only benefit to a thin phone for me is that you can put a bulkier case on it without worry of the phone getting too thick. I don't really like how overly thin mobile devices feel in hand, especially phones--I like my palm to be able to rest comfortably on the back of the phone while holding it one-handed without my fingers awkwardly hanging off the side, which requires a bit more bulk.