I don't understand the reason why Samsung, like others, launches the higher capacity devices later than the smaller one.
Is this a marketing thing or a production thing?
If it's a marketing thing I don't understand what they gain of it, and if it is a production issue, I can't understand why it so difficult to make different devices at the same time. The difference in the device itself is small and the packaging can't be that hard to differenciate?
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I don't understand the reason why Samsung, like others, launches the higher capacity devices later than the smaller one.
Is this a marketing thing or a production thing?
If it's a marketing thing I don't understand what they gain of it, and if it is a production issue, I can't understand why it so difficult to make different devices at the same time. The difference in the device itself is small and the packaging can't be that hard to differenciate?
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It has to do with the operators.
All the operators offer contracts with a low monthly cost accompanied by high end devices.
When the hype is still high the operators want to commit you for like 2 years with a contract that has a low monthly fee and in order to keep that fee low the device has to be the cheapest possible.
It's rather hard to find cheap contracts with high end devices on their highest capacities. They started doing that with the iPhone and they continue with every brand.
Until the hype is calmed the factories are focusing on production of the cheapest devices because its obvious they are gonna have higher demand(most people dont even know what GigaByte means) since the operators manage to give away good deals with internet and even free calls including the phone.
m33ts4k0z said:
It has to do with the operators.
All the operators offer contracts with a low monthly cost accompanied by high end devices.
When the hype is still high the operators want to commit you for like 2 years with a contract that has a low monthly fee and in order to keep that fee low the device has to be the cheapest possible.
It's rather hard to find cheap contracts with high end devices on their highest capacities. They started doing that with the iPhone and they continue with every brand.
Until the hype is calmed the factories are focusing on production of the cheapest devices because its obvious they are gonna have higher demand(most people dont even know what GigaByte means) since the operators manage to give away good deals with internet and even free calls including the phone.
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Thanks, sounds reasonable.
But still, the operators could still offer 16GB with a contract, and operators and others 32/64GB SIM free devices?
nilste said:
Thanks, sounds reasonable.
But still, the operators could still offer 16GB with a contract, and operators and others 32/64GB SIM free devices?
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I don't think that operator locked devices will have capacities higher than 16GB.
The first wave of phones will mainly be operator locked(hence the contract).
Then the SIM-Free version of 32 and 64 GB will eventually come but right know my guess is that Samsung wants to cover the demand from the operators worldwide first and then move to the unlocked phones.
Either way an android device is unlockable much easier than an iPhone so...
Because probably as always with samsung devices they will never launch 32 and 64gb devices even if they say yes on press releases.
My take is they no people will opt for 32 or 64 so by releasing the 16 first itl help them sell a lot more 16s as people just cant wait and buy just to have
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Because probably as always with samsung devices they will never launch 32 and 64gb devices even if they say yes on press releases.
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Hi!
Sadly there seem to be some truth to this statement. Look at the Galaxy Note. It was originally promised available in 16 & 32 gig versions as well. Handtec actually has it "due in soon"
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5587/samsung-galaxy-note--32gb--sim-free-unlocked--blue-
32 Gig SGN has been "due in soon" for a long time. Evidently the term "soon" covers everything between "now" to "never" including both.
What i don´t understand is the reason for making a firm promise when you might end up reconsidering. Wouldn´t it be better to present the product "as is" and state something like "higher capacity devices might follow later".
If i preordered the 32 gig version, waited 3-6 months, and then finally was told that the device wouldn´t be available after all due to "manufacturer reconsidering". I might tend to have eehh-- a somewhat less than positive opinion of said manufacturers truthfullness
Regards ELO
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32 Gig SGN has been "due in soon" for a long time. Evidently the term "soon" covers everything between "now" to "never" including both.
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I was under the impression that the 32GB international version of SGN had been officially cancelled? I remember reading that on several sites a few months back... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22528962&postcount=92
I won't settle for less than 32gb, 16 is to little
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I was under the impression that the 32GB international version of SGN had been officially cancelled? I remember reading that on several sites a few months back... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22528962&postcount=92
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I hadn´t seen that but it might very well be true. This illuminates the "meat of the matter" Samsung proudly annunces a 32 GB version at the original product presentation and then cancels somewhere "down the road".
Sadly this behavior is self-amplifying. Look at the SGSIII. why would you want to wait for a 32/64 GB version when you can be fairly sure it´ll never hit the shelves anyway, regardless of nice and pretty promises at the presentation. Subsequently if sales statistics show that the market is saturated with the 16 GB version because the potential customers knew the 32/64 GB versions were "made of hot air", then there is no feasible basis for production and Samsung "regrettably cancelles - so sorry".
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I hadn´t seen that but it might very well be true. This illuminates the "meat of the matter" Samsung proudly annunces a 32 GB version at the original product presentation and then cancels somewhere "down the road".
Sadly this behavior is self-amplifying. Look at the SGSIII. why would you want to wait for a 32/64 GB version when you can be fairly sure it´ll never hit the shelves anyway, regardless of nice and pretty promises at the presentation. Subsequently if sales statistics show that the market is saturated with the 16 GB version because the potential customers knew the 32/64 GB versions were "made of hot air", then there is no feasible basis for production and Samsung "regrettably cancelles - so sorry".
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I know, it really sucks and is annoying. I ordered the 16GB version because I just can't wait. I guess the 32GB will be a Vodafone exclusive and then after that there will be 32GB unbrandeds on the way, but nobody knows when...
I've bought a 64GB SDXC so 16GB should be enough. I don't listen to music using my phone anyway, I have a separate player for that.
I'm guessing that the 64GB version of the SGS3 might pop up sooner or later (my money is on later) and my personal guess is that when/if it is released, it will come in black. I'm not holding my breath though, and I'm definitely not waiting for it. I don't think very many will wait for it, and I think Samsung knows that, and to me it feels like the risk of them cancelling it is pretty big.
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I think I'd prefer the International version instead of the S4 processor. I'm mostly if not always on Wi-Fi so I don't think 4G LTE will matter much to me.
I'm wondering what others have done in the past and am curious about your experience on buying international phones? Did you guys wait a few months for the price to go down? Where did you purchase your international version of your phone? Etc.
Any advice would be great. Thank you.
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I think I'd prefer the International version instead of the S4 processor. I'm mostly if not always on Wi-Fi so I don't think 4G LTE will matter much to me.
I'm wondering what others have done in the past and am curious about your experience on buying international phones? Did you guys wait a few months for the price to go down? Where did you purchase your international version of your phone? Etc.
Any advice would be great. Thank you.
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I have purchased two SGS IIs and my Note USED from US buyers after they had been around a few months. I would not be considered an"early adopter" by any stretch. More of a "wait and see" who is unhappy with their device and wants to sell. I usually buy when the price hits $150 - $200 below retail new.
I don;t worry about warranties because I am going to void it anyway if I purchased new.
Seems this one will have a few more available. LOL I like it and will lilkely get one later this Spring or early Summer. Development will be in full force and the ROMS should stabilize and the major issues will be resolved .
Not until a device gets in the MAS market do the warts show up. Samsung cannot possibly beta test like thousands of early adopters.
My advice would be WAIT....and see how the people who LIKE it now will feel about it after a few months and What developers develop for it. .
Don't be swayed by those who hate the "design" Use your phone from the inside out not the outside in. I ended up with a White Note because it was available and priced right and hated how attention getting it was and skinned it with a dark decal. Made it look less obtrusive.
Personally I think its better to wait a couple of months for the price to go down. Money isn't something we should spend so lightly, especially on a phone that will be as capable as others.
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Also wait for people to start posting problems with their screens like the Note which was a huge headache.
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In my experience, eBay is overpriced for international version. Craigslist is cheaper but unlikely you find an international version. I never tried buying from overseas websites.
I'm lucky enough to visit Hong Kong every summer. Probably pick up s3 there. Though the prices are high I might have to wait... (expecting $600 s2 was about that when I went last year) Annoyed it might not work with T-Mobile though.
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Has anyone heard of the 32 or 64gb coming to Verizon?
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Has anyone heard of the 32 or 64gb coming to Verizon?
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Why do you need one?
SD card is always cheaper.
I agree, I want something bigger than 16gb (10 usable) as well
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Why do you need one?
SD card is always cheaper.
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Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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Yes, I have tons of data, including files needed for school, work, entertainment since I'm gone almost all day, every day.
50gb of dropbox data is nice, but I like to be able to always access the files physically on my device. Additionally, I have tons of data and this is barely 1% of what I have. Also, for obvious reasons, it is better to have apps installed on the internal opposed to the SD, but 10gb is not that much. The point is Samsung/or the carriers should have delivered on this. Aside from KR and JP, it doesn't seem like any one else got the 64gb version. If that is the case, Samsung may as well say they have a 1tb version of the phone.
I have a macbook ultra, as well, but loathe lugging it around all day. Sometimes it is just nice to have one device that does it all without having to constantly hook it up to the computer, delete files, etc. etc. Aside from that, I don't really question how others use their phone, but can see the need for more data. I know I wouldn't be a [email protected]@ss and tell others to reevaulate their phone usage, though, especially when Samsung makes variants with more available data.
The Verizon Rep said that Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon, like with other USA carriers, will be only 16gb internal storage for right now.
But I do agree that these devices are our computers on the go. So even with 16/32gb SD card the 16gb internal storage is really not much when you see it that way.
Why Samsung thinks that Americans only want 16gbs of internal storage? I don't know. But the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still the most awesome device at this point in time. Just which service provider do I want (stay with Verizon or go for T-Mobile?).?
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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If you use 50gb or more per month on Verizon to access that 50gb Dropbox your bill will be sky high. Until we truly get true unlimited data, data storage within your device/s becomes vital. I understand that you have SD card. But system internal memory is much faster. That is where you want as much data for your apps to be. So the more internal memory the less of a need for your apps to store its data within your SD card and the faster the apps can get to its own data. This allowing you to use your SD card space to store music, podcasts, videos, documents, etc. This way you won't have such of a high bill accessing your data in the cloud.
When it comes to rethinking the usage and needs of any PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer aka Smartphone, I don't see limiting the usage with the device but I see using the device to benefit me. These devices are really PPC aka Pocket Personal Computers with both cellular and WiFi radios. So why not use these devices as a Pocket Personal Computer? A computer you can listen to music, Internet radio, podcasts, watch videos, video podcasts, create and edit documents, manage your daily life, communicate and keep up with other people, give your self a relaxing break, store your data, and so on... So why not use your PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer the same way? The only difference is that your PPC is a mobile device with cellular radio that is with you at all times and is smaller. Smaller size and having a cellular radio (for voice and data) allows the computer device to be mobile for you. And having a mobile Pocket Personal Computer allows you to manage your life and do the other stuff on the go where you need and want them. That making these Pocket Personal Computer devices even more important to have the local space for your stuff and for the applications' data.
I would have to say to you "Rethink what these Android devices really are and what you can do with them having more data storage space, including more internal memory space." And don't be fooled by the fact that these devices have cellular radio. They are really Pocket Personal Computers aka PPC. I personally feel that Samsung Galaxy Note 2's features really makes that point clear.
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The Verizon Rep said that Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon, like with other USA carriers, will be only 16gb internal memory for right now.
But I do agree that these devices are our computers on the go. So even with 16/32gb SD card the 16gb internal memory is really not much when you see it that way.
Why Samsung thinks that Americans only want 16gbs of internal memory? I don't know. But the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is still the most awesome device at this point in time. Just which service provider do I want (stay with Verizon or go for T-Mobile?).?
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If you use 50gb or more per month on Verizon to access that 50gb Dropbox your bill will be sky high. Until we truly get true unlimited data, data storage within your device/s becomes vital. I understand that you have SD card. But system internal memory is much faster. That is where you want as much data for your apps to be. So the more internal memory the less of a need for your apps to store its data within your SD card and the faster the apps can get to its own data. This allowing you to use your SD card space to store music, podcasts, videos, documents, etc. This way you won't have such of a high bill accessing your data in the cloud.
When it comes to rethinking the usage and needs of any PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer aka Smartphone, I don't see limiting the usage with the device but I see using the device to benefit me. These devices are really PPC aka Pocket Personal Computers with both cellular and WiFi radios. So why not use these devices as a Pocket Personal Computer? A computer you can listen to music, Internet radio, podcasts, watch videos, video podcasts, create and edit documents, manage your daily life, communicate and keep up with other people, give your self a relaxing break, store your data, and so on... So why not use your PPC aka Pocket Personal Computer the same way? The only difference is that your PPC is a mobile device with cellular radio that is with you at all times and is smaller. Smaller size allows the computer device to be mobile for you. And having a mobile Pocket Personal Computer allows you to manage your life and do the other stuff on the go where you need and want them. That making these Pocket Personal Computer devices even more important to have the local space for your stuff and for the applications' data.
I would have to say to you "Rethink what these Android devices really are and what you can do with them having more data storage space, including more internal memory space." And don't be fooled by the fact that these devices have cellular radio. They are really Pocket Personal Computers aka PPC. I personally feel that Samsung Galaxy Note 2's features really makes that point clear.
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Alright everywhere has wifi now. Why use 4G LTE when it drains the battery and really isn't anything special. Maybe when you're on the road and can't access it, or if you don't have wifi at home. Not everyone is going to use their data on accessing that dropbox,
I never go over 2-3gb and i'm constant checking email, facebook, netflix, etc. On and off data.
Maybe it's just me, but i dont see how people use so much data or space.
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Alright everywhere has wifi now. Why use 4G LTE when it drains the battery and really isn't anything special. Maybe when you're on the road and can't access it, or if you don't have wifi at home. Not everyone is going to use their data on accessing that dropbox,
I never go over 2-3gb and i'm constant checking email, facebook, netflix, etc. On and off data.
Maybe it's just me, but i dont see how people use so much data or space.
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Because there are people on the go. That means that you are not at home at your WiFi or sitting at the Cafe shop w/ WiFi. And most work places don't allow to use their WiFi, if they have it. That is the reason for the cellular radio to have access to voice and data where & when you need and want it. These device are not for people that stay at home. That is what tablets are for. These PPC devices are for the busy people on the go. That is where you need and want the data and other stuff when you want it without having to pay the large bill to access it. That is where large local data storage on the PPC devices becomes valuable and vital.
If you are just using the device to check email, facebook and watch netflix only, then why use such a powerful productivity and power user device as the Gallaxy Note 2? The features of this device is really designed for the busy people on the go, heavy business users, gamers, heavy media users, artist types, and for the geeks (basically for the power users).
This is where I find the divide between the casual users and the power users. Casual users don't really do anything with their device that they couldn't do with a feature phone. This makes PPC aka Smartphone a true waste for the casual user. While the power users really need the storage space and functionality of the PPC aka Smartphone devices. Another issue is calling Pocket Personal Computers as "Smartphone" devices. Microsoft was trying to compete with Apple's, back then as the new, iPhone. So Microsoft came up with the term "Smartphone" to dumb down the cellular Pocket Personal Computers to be more marketable to the casual user as a more friendly device. That was the big mistake that caused people to think of these devices as more of a "phone" than a computer. This also causes this same divide in the current world of Android.
There are number of true power users that need the functionality, large storage, high CPU power, large RAM, and the power of having a true computer in their hands at all times to need the PPC device. And there are a much larger number of casual users that don't need the PPC devices, more of a feature phone types, that uses PPC devices because they cooler to use. Those casual users are the ones that bring the sales higher, but still can't relate to the power users. This is the same story with laptop and desktop computers.
But just understand what you are holding is really a computer and not just a phone with features.
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Does it matter? There are a variety of reasons someone would want more than 16gb internal. Even with the extra 64gb, I am pretty sure I will max mine out almost instantly when I get it. Some people use more memory than others.
And no, no word on the 32gb model yet.
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I agree. I'm worried that as soon as I start downloading all of my apps, I will be out of storage. On my 16GB Nexus 7, I couldn't download all of the apps that I have on my Galaxy Nexus before I got a low storage warning. I have the basic apps I use daily, and then several games that are rather large. I don't like being limited by the storage, but there is supposedly a work around that can switch the internal memory to the SD card memory so that storage isn't an issue.
The only thing I've heard about the 32GB and 64GB is that Verizon will most likely not sell those versions unless the 16GB versions sales warrant adding those models. However, that could just be rumor. I doubt that if they do decide to release those versions, it wont be any time before the New Year.
I ask because I'm trading up from a 32gb gs3. I just don't want to feel like a step back. I know I could not be lazy and move rom files and stuff to the 64gb card I have but I can't help but feel it's a step back... Blah.
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64 gb that quick? May want to re think that and see what you actually need on your phone.
Also, there is 50gb of Dropbox space. You won't run out.
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No, there isn't. Verizon and AT&T's Note 2s won't get the dropbox promotion.
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297/en
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No, there isn't. Verizon and AT&T's Note 2s won't get the dropbox promotion.
https://www.dropbox.com/help/297/en
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Someone said on another forum that they have AT&T and got the free Dropbox promotion.
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Someone said on another forum that they have AT&T and got the free Dropbox promotion.
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Once rooted, it may just be a build.prop edit, really.. The free space stays afterwards anyway.
I had a Tmo Note 2 for a week, canceled the service and returned the phone due to service issues, and still have the space.
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I don't load up that many Apps for 16gigs to be a concern. The only time I run into problems is when I want to load up a 4gig plus movie on my Nexus 7. With the Note 2 sd card slot the majority of people will not have this issue.
Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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Once rooted, it may just be a build.prop edit, really.. The free space stays afterwards anyway.
I had a Tmo Note 2 for a week, canceled the service and returned the phone due to service issues, and still have the space.
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I'm already so tempted to take out a Sprint Note 2 without the intention of keeping it or the service - don't give me more reasons to do it. lol
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Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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I'm sure they'll bring one out eventually and lower the price of the current Note 2 when they do. My guess is it will be $250/$300 and happen around February, but it's just a guess.
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I don't load up that many Apps for 16gigs to be a concern. The only time I run into problems is when I want to load up a 4gig plus movie on my Nexus 7. With the Note 2 sd card slot the majority of people will not have this issue.
Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
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It isn't an Apple product, lol. I would expect the 16gb only to be $50 more. 349.99 which imo, is still a bit much, though. I think the Note2 should've been priced at 249.99 and 300 for the 32gb.
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I'm sure they'll bring one out eventually and lower the price of the current Note 2 when they do. My guess is it will be $250/$300 and happen around February, but it's just a guess.
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I wouldn't count on that for a few reasons:
1.) as advertised the msd slot will make it so many people do not have this issue.
2.) i don't know why you think that'll happen around feb. the s3 hasn't had a price drop yet either and that phone has been out approx. 3-4 months. so in feb the note 2 will have been out 3-4 months, so i don't know why they would slash the price just so they can give us a phone with more memory for the same price.
3.) they are already talking about the S4 in March 2013, so if the phone releases in <1 year, there will be no point for upgrading the memory to 32gb on the N2 since anyone looking to upgrade probably will just wait for the N3.
4.) as said, depends on the #'s of N2's they sell. i don't think this phone will sell extremely well compared to iP5/S3, so i don't see why they would even care about releasing the 32/64 variants since it won't bring in that much extra revenue.
5.) so far, isn't jp and kr the only countries that have different variants in terms of memory? last time i was on the international n2 board, it seems like almost people only had the 16gb version.
6.) vzw sucks
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I wouldn't count on that for a few reasons:
1.) as advertised the msd slot will make it so many people do not have this issue.
2.) i don't know why you think that'll happen around feb. the s3 hasn't had a price drop yet either and that phone has been out approx. 3-4 months. so in feb the note 2 will have been out 3-4 months, so i don't know why they would slash the price just so they can give us a phone with more memory for the same price.
3.) they are already talking about the S4 in March 2013, so if the phone releases in <1 year, there will be no point for upgrading the memory to 32gb on the N2 since anyone looking to upgrade probably will just wait for the N3.
4.) as said, depends on the #'s of N2's they sell. i don't think this phone will sell extremely well compared to iP5/S3, so i don't see why they would even care about releasing the 32/64 variants since it won't bring in that much extra revenue.
5.) so far, isn't jp and kr the only countries that have different variants in terms of memory? last time i was on the international n2 board, it seems like almost people only had the 16gb version.
6.) vzw sucks
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1.) The GS3 has a slot and they still have the options. Onboard ROM is faster and also some people would want the extra storage for music.
2.) I wouldn't be surprised if they lowered it around then due to competitor's phones - and to entice people to buy it that haven't. Just like they are adding color options to the S3. The success of this phone will definitely lead to other manufacturers getting in on the 5.5" scene.
3.) Most people aren't going to wait 6 months or so to upgrade.
4.) They already sold over 3 million before AT&T (and Verizon) got it. This phone is selling more than they expected, I'd bet.
5.) Since they already have the added memory in the GS3, putting it in the Note 2 won't cost much - it's not like they'll have to use anything new.
It shouldn't surprise anyone if a 32GB eventually comes out. I wouldn't wait on it or anything but it's definitely quite possible.
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1.) The GS3 has a slot and they still have the options. Onboard ROM is faster and also some people would want the extra storage for music.
2.) I wouldn't be surprised if they lowered it around then due to competitor's phones - and to entice people to buy it that haven't. Just like they are adding color options to the S3. The success of this phone will definitely lead to other manufacturers getting in on the 5.5" scene.
3.) Most people aren't going to wait 6 months or so to upgrade.
4.) They already sold over 3 million before AT&T (and Verizon) got it. This phone is selling more than they expected, I'd bet.
5.) Since they already have the added memory in the GS3, putting it in the Note 2 won't cost much - it's not like they'll have to use anything new.
It shouldn't surprise anyone if a 32GB eventually comes out. I wouldn't wait on it or anything but it's definitely quite possible.
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1.) gs3 is a lot more marketable. even though we all love n2, most likely will not appeal to the masses. it is like if they made an iP5 that is 5.5", i wouldn't expect it to outsell the iP5.
2.) i would. vzw touts superior coverage + better LTE speeds. they will just say this comes with the territory.
3.) 6 months? who knows when the N3 will be announced. if all goes according to the rumor mill about S4 we could expect that as early as march 2012. if they announced the n3 on the same timeline as the s4 (which obviously i doubt) then i bet many people will wait out for the n3. of course people who don't know may snatch up the note, but i'd bet those people are just up for upgrade and i'm placing my money on more people having upgrades available to them during late q3/early q4 opposed to early q1 where we see a lot less phones being released. obv. companies want to cash in during the holiday season.
4.) still not over >30 mil like the s3. the #'s are good for a phone this size, but then again maybe some people will switch after having a 5.5" phone on next upgrade since there are not many phones available on this size. i think the sweet spot now seems to be around 5"... the n2 is huge in comparison to most phones, even the s3.
5.) like you said, 10 mil sold and the only place you can really pick up a bigger variant is in kr/jp. samsung has advertised it in various nations in various sizes, but there is little to no reason why they advertise it coming in those sizes/not having any stock available. there was a guy who got torn apart in another part of this forum for creating a petition for samsung to release the bigger sized variants. i would say with the expandable memory most people will not care about this. i don't think many people are going to wait to upgrade 3-4 months for a bigger sized variant/it might not be worth it to release it later in terms of sales. it isn't like i said an ip5 or s3 which sell like hotcakes.
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/11/19/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-and-note-2-gain-three-new-colours
not confirmed. it doesn't say us, either. positive step in the right direction though, even though i don't think any carrier in the usa offers the 6 variant colors of the s3
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During the past two weeks I have spoken to two people in upper management at Verizon Wireless regarding the GN2 release. This post is for those that care about the conversation.
Both conversations happened with individuals no further than 3 levels down from the CEO. Keep in mind that many of the same questions were asked or mentioned multiple times and the same answer was not always repeated and thus I had to read between the lines.
Here is what I gathered.
Verizon did not sell the Note 1 (as we know) and was not confident enough that it would work on their network as planned so instead of releasing it when other carriers did, it instead allowed 1) field testers to use it for the past month as they have with much success and 2) allow US Cellular to sell the gray version (to test) since they share many towers.
Realizing the white version is much more popular, US Cellular is not allowed to release it until/after Verizon does (to avoid customers switching to US Cellular). Apparently Verizon and US Cellular share A LOT of towers and if you are in an area without VZLTE, USC may be a better option.
The release is targeted for Christmas shopping and VZ did not see enough demand to warrant releasing it any earlier (ie: prior to Thanksgiving). Given the comment that was made about needing to test the phone, I'm not sure this would have even been an option.
Throughout both calls, both mention that the phone will be released on the 27th and also will be shipped on the 27th but also mentioned that it will be released on the 29th. I purposely did not try to pin down a date since what we have heard is that it will ship by the 27th and release on the 29th. I'm not familiar with Verizon so I'm not sure if a Tuesday release is possible. The Droid DNA is to be released on November 21 so we know Wednesday is an option.
All of this does not help us get our phone any sooner but I ended both conversations felling more aware of why Verizon postponed the release and confident that it will be my next carrier on the 27/29th of November."
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Real?
Fake?
Would it make you mad?
I think that it's for a S4 like phone that's set to launch in Europe. Reason being they did the same thing with the note 2 and galaxy mega. However contrary to this point the mega had much lower specs than the Note 2.
Given that it's an S4 that still retails for 200$ I'm convinced that Samsung did this in the interest of sales.
This might be an S4 variant that retails for 300$+ under a different name.
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It's real, but only being released in South Korea, so no one anywhere else should worry. This is because of the LTE-Advanced capabilities which currently only exist in South Korea
Real or vaporwear, I wouldn't worry about it. us Verizon folks will never see it on our network.
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Real or vaporwear, I wouldn't worry about it. us Verizon folks will never see it on our network.
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Probably the most accurate perspective, considering Verizon is in milking mode strategy with a mid device level offering and 16gb only option for the S4. Such a device would compromise their strategy. Other carriers probably will offer it in the US, just like 32gb S4 and the recent LG Pro.
The new 800 is not just a new LTE radio only, but the same radio versatility of the 600 with better fabrication process and much faster performance. We will not notice an LTE difference, but will notice "cooler" running 4g and much faster device performance.
pretty depressing that we won't ever see the 32gb s4
There is still a sliver of chance in late July, but by then we might hear more about 800 devices. HTC, LG and Samsung have already mentioned they will have devices with the chipset by Q4.
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Probably the most accurate perspective, considering Verizon is in milking mode strategy with a mid device level offering and 16gb only option for the S4. Such a device would compromise their strategy. Other carriers probably will offer it in the US, just like 32gb S4 and the recent LG Pro.
The new 800 is not just a new LTE radio only, but the same radio versatility of the 600 with better fabrication process and much faster performance. We will not notice an LTE difference, but will notice "cooler" running 4g and much faster device performance.
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I'm not surprised if Verizon is going with the "milking mode", but I feel Verizon's device strategy to be archaic.
It almost seem like Verizon is afraid that the customers will get confused if there are 2 equally good devices out at the same time. Perhaps this is why we don't have the HTC One yet.
Back when I was on T-Mobile, I would buy, then sell phones every few month. Simply because there are a ton of great phones to choose from. Now on Verizon, I change phones like once a year, not because I can't afford it, but because there's simply a lack of pones to choose from. Although, it all works out, since I need the money to pay the huge phone bill!
Unless there are massive power savings, i am not horribly bothered (got mine Sunday). The 600 is more than blowing me away with its power compared to my rezound.
Lets face it, when it comes to technology, there is ALWAYS something better right on the horizon. We face this every day, be it with phones, tvs, or computers. If you enjoy what you have, and it does what you need, i wouldn't dwell too much on what you might be "missing out" on..
True dat.
Thoughts? Look at the pricing and availability towards the bottom of the page.
Says October 11th and $498. Seems like the legit Samsung site.
http://www.samsung.com/sg/news/local/samsung-gear-s-and-gear-circle-enhances-the-smart-wearable-experience
Is that only a Singapore date?
That's what I'm wondering, either way gives me hope of a US October release. Personally I'd like to grab my 4 and Gear S at the same time, like I did last year with my Note 3, Gear and Note 10.1 2014 in one purchase, made for an overwhelmingly good, fun night lol. But I'd like to kick start my Note 4 with a Gear S attached to it.
that`s about what $400 US?
No idea, I'd pay it though! Just need some US info, I'm more excited about the watch than any other device right now.
As much as I want one. I need to see a full review with a production model.
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As much as I want one. I need to see a full review with a production model.
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Eh, most product reviews are usually by idiots in my opinion that have no idea what they are looking at, I realized this last year with the Gear 1, people are still referencing uneducated early reviews about the Gear 1 when talking about the Gear S, I'm still using my Gear 1 that was "so horrible on battery" lol and its awesome on battery.
The reviewers usually know much less than we but occasionally proved useful information.
We still need to know full specs and capabilities.
Agreed, I'm a huge fan of reviews and unboxing videos prior to a purchase but I take them with a grain of salt and worst case scenario I just most stores return policy.
I find it odd that this watch is released before the Note 4 or Edge.
Based upon the leaked Australian pricing, the Gear S USA would be around $375. My guess is they round that to $350 which would make it about $15 a month on a 2 year non-binding agreement or maybe $100 on a 2 year contract.
Finally read the give print on the att site and got an idea of how they plan to set up the gear s. Figured I'd share for any that didn't know.
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Finally read the give print on the att site and got an idea of how they plan to set up the gear s. Figured I'd share for any that didn't know.
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I think that is a bit misleading. If the watch is 3G and has a sim card, you will be able to receive SMS directly without a cell phone. I think what they are trying to say is that you will be able to add your Gear S to an existing Smartphone Contract but you won't be able to have the Gear S as your only phone.
We'll see. A lot of confusing info out there. Would be nice of them to just give a for sale date and price though.
Saw a UK site (Sky News) saying they are taking pre orders at £349 !!!
Yes £'s
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Saw a UK site (Sky News) saying they are taking pre orders at £349 !!!
Yes £'s
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That includes VAT and of course everything always costs more in England. We also don't know if that site is gouging people or not. My guess is $350 USD.
Lol I'm just getting frustrated with the mobile carriers and Samsung, Samsung did this last year with the Note 10.1 2014 all hush hush until a week before it's for sale, stupid move in my opinion especially for high end expensive products, if someone doesn't make a lot of money and they try to save they don't know how much or for how long, or if they are really in the market for something (ie; like me with a tablet last year, I really wanted the new note 10.1 but had to wait almost two months for just a release date, and I almost bought a different non Samsung tablet instead, luckily for Samsung and myself I held out) but to think that most people can just drop $4-500 on a watch or $7-800 on a tablet on their next paycheck like that, is just stupid and is what's killing their first week sales. I've had my Note 4, VR and especially my Gear S money sitting in a jar just piling up since IFA I've probably accumulated double what everything will cost, but then again I'm not sure lol, I'm sure I'll find out 3 days before it's time to finally get one and hopefully I have enough, or still want it.
I'm not sure who, Samsung or the cell companies, lol but for Christ sakes give people time to plan and not string them along for months with not even a rough estimate of price or what were in for as far as if it's another monthly phone charge. We're 25% through October and still nothing, I'm all about Samsung products so I'll hold out, but how many people do you think won't? And Samsung wonders why their profits are down 40 something percent since last year. Hate to say it, because I hate Apple as a whole, but they were shipping a week after announcing, hit em while it's hot, Samsung yet again announces and let's the oven cool, most people would of scooped this off the shelves soon after IFA because of all the buzz, wait two months and hear nothing about it again most people will move on and probably grab a Moto 360 or something, so Samsung is just hurting themselves.
I personally am not the type who gets more excited over months of anticipation, I get annoyed and frustrated, but I swear by Samsung products, how about the people who don't? That are willing to try them out over the new iPhone, but weren't willing to wait forever and just say screw it and grab the iPhone? There's your numbers Samsung, there's your profits.
I wish they'd Stop trying to beat Apple and worry about stealing their users, it won't happen, they're brainwashed and are not worried about specs or bang for their buck, spoke could release the iTurd and those kids would ready it up, so worry about the people who are diehard Samsung fans, they keep the lights on, I've personally converted about 5 iPhone users to Samsung s5's and Note 3's and will continue to do so.
If they keep us happy, we'll do more marketing then any reviewer or competitive release date will.
Lol so let's get some friggin' info already.
Side note (no pun intended):
I fear the day Samsung stops making removable backs with swappable batteries and micro sd card slots! they did it on the alpha, which I almost considered picking up to have as a side phone to my Note 4 until I saw no expandable memory, next goes the removable back and then we got an android (or Tizen) iPhone which is the opposite of what I want in a smartphone. I honestly won't buy a phone that I can't remove the battery or especially doesn't have expandable memory. The only ones really complaining about the plastic are people that use iPhones and don't plan to buy a Samsung anyways, 3 Notes deep, 4th in a few weeks and I've never had a problem with the plastic. We don't want iPhones Samsung, and iPhone users don't want anything besides an iPhone.
Nice!!!!
The at&t site has full specs up but no release date yet. We know that it'll be a "connected device" meaning $10/mo on mobile share plans & I'm guessing you'll have you have a phone on the plan even if you don't want it. The samsung ppl hinted that the calling/sms features will be tied into GVoice but that's just conjecture. It sounds like it'll either have something to do with hangouts, or an app on your phone that forwards everything to the watch under certain conditions.
I'm not saying i know, just guessing based on all the bits on info I've been given by the 2 companies. I'm wondering how it'll be added to grandfathered family plans, if at all.
But can we just use it like we use the 1st gear and gear 2 connected via Bluetooth?
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
I'm pretty sure, I don't think om understand how much people will buy their stuff if they quit messing around and actually make an excellent product.
Heard from ZTE stock is ready, should be back on sale very very soon!
They have been in business since 1985. I am pretty sure this was a marketing ploy used to generate interest and demand for their product. It is human nature to want what we cannot have. Just be patient.
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
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Well it was first released in the Chinese market. From what I can tell, due to carriers and a bunch of restrictions with selling stuff in the US, some companies are very cautious. First Axon needed to test the waters with a lower scale launch.
Also don't hate on the OG Moto X. It's seriously one of the best devices ever, up there with the Nexuses.
I'm glad I pre-ordered for the first run. This is one of the best phone values I've had in a long time, comparable to the Oneplus One when it released. Keep the prices low and specs high, engage the xda community, keep the warranty, and I will continue to be a customer.
I think it should be getting MORE attention. It is time the big name brands take a hit in their pricing and provide affordable flagships, however they need to do s, otherwise I will continue to buy the high value chinese brands.
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I'm glad I pre-ordered for the first run. This is one of the best phone values I've had in a long time, comparable to the Oneplus One when it released. Keep the prices low and specs high, engage the xda community, keep the warranty, and I will continue to be a customer.
I think it should be getting MORE attention. It is time the big name brands take a hit in their pricing and provide affordable flagships, however they need to do s, otherwise I will continue to buy the high value chinese brands.
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I agree, for $400 (especially + giftcard and headphones) its a great deal. The two major cons of the device are the reception, and camera. Minor quirks with software can be fixed, and the capacitive button locations can be gotten used to. As a device I'd give it a 7.5/10, as a device that costs $400, 8.8/10. I am still surprised that it has an s6's amoled, audio that is easily top 3, etc. To me, the only thing that is making me question this phone is the reception, other than that I am completely happy with it even with the other issues.
Galaxy Note 7 on back order also so cut ZTE some slack. I can name several flagship phones that sold out or back ordered in the first month or 2 and no one lost their mindss like people are doing with ZTE.
ZTE just told me that the phone came to the USA market officially before the EU market so the USA version may seem better than EU.
The Official EU release is coming very soon though this month it looks like.
They promise that they provide good service to all users around the world and not just the USA
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ZTE just told me that the phone came to the USA market officially before the EU market so the USA version may seem better than EU.
The Official EU release is coming very soon though this month it looks like.
They promise that they provide good service to all users around the world and not just the USA
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Dude, "good service" for me includes unlockable bootloader for everybody, not just americans. Ordering a oneplus 3 next week, once the graphite color is available. Gold is ugly as hell. Don't only women buy gold phones? I only have seen women and gay dudes with gold phones
I received my ZTE Axon 7 Gold Colour today in Frankfurt, Germany.
I ordered on the 31st of August and picked it up at Media Market this afternoon (02.09.)
It was sold out in a day once it appeared on the German price comparison website idealo.
I am loving the sleek build of the phone so far and its speed but funny enough, the listening sound appears to be too low even on high volume and I cannot find any theme store anywhere as the stock UI is ugly as hell.
I will keep going through it to see its strength and weaknesses.
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ZTE just told me that the phone came to the USA market officially before the EU market so the USA version may seem better than EU.
The Official EU release is coming very soon though this month it looks like.
They promise that they provide good service to all users around the world and not just the USA
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What are the versions available in the EU or UK market?
I'm planning to buy a Chinese version, 4GB+128GB for about 2900RMB, 330 GBP, during my China trip later this month. But I'm slightly concerned that I wont be receiving OTA updates for EU markets afterwards.
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What are the versions available in the EU or UK market?
I'm planning to buy a Chinese version, 4GB+128GB for about 2900RMB, 330 GBP, during my China trip later this month. But I'm slightly concerned that I wont be receiving OTA updates for EU markets afterwards.
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OTA updates aren't based on where you currently are located. They're based on the region of the device. A Chinese A7 will only be getting the Chinese OTAs.
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I'm glad I pre-ordered for the first run. This is one of the best phone values I've had in a long time, comparable to the Oneplus One when it released. Keep the prices low and specs high, engage the xda community, keep the warranty, and I will continue to be a customer.
I think it should be getting MORE attention. It is time the big name brands take a hit in their pricing and provide affordable flagships, however they need to do s, otherwise I will continue to buy the high value chinese brands.
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I think this may be like the OnePlus One in that it's an exceptional package for the price. The Axon 8 or whatever going forward will likely have less bang for buck as with OnePlus Two/X because of demand.
I'm hoping that for once being an early adopter (albeit waiting 6 weeks) will pay off with a phone that I will get a good two-three years out of.
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
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my local best buy has the grey version in stock today, less than 3. im really contemplating exchanging my nexus 6p for it. its a tough decision because i love android 7.0 but the battery life and lcd is subpar on the 6p. your getting more bang for buck with the axon. the only concern i have is getting ota updates and any rom development.
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my local best buy has the grey version in stock today, less than 3. im really contemplating exchanging my nexus 6p for it. its a tough decision because i love android 7.0 but the battery life and lcd is subpar on the 6p. your getting more bang for buck with the axon. the only concern i have is getting ota updates and any rom development.
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If you go to the local ZTE USA website, you can order the phone. According to their website and this device will ship prior to 9/9. That is but a few days, but since they already know when it will shipband this has been on their site for several weeks, this was probably a marketing ploy more than likely. The hope to be to increase demand by reducing supply. I am quite sure, this company of professionals, that has been in business since 1985, did not make a rookie mistake like this.
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If you go to the local ZTE USA website, you can order the phone. According to their website and this device will ship prior to 9/9. That is but a few days, but since they already know when it will shipband this has been on their site for several weeks, this was probably a marketing ploy more than likely. The hope to be to increase demand by reducing supply. I am quite sure, this company of professionals, that has been in business since 1985, did not make a rookie mistake like this.
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I suspect that Best Buy is getting first dibs on the latest batch, possibly to make up for not receiving any units from the August batch (they all went to ZTE/Newegg/B&H and some to Amazon).
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The damn phone is on backorder every where in the US at least. Looked online at amazon and eBay's uk sites and they don't even have any period. Not sure if the phone has even hit Europe yet. I've been holding out for the 6GB model but I am tired of my GS6 Edge and it's broken screen and my backup phone is like a 2013 Moto x and yeah it sucks.
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I was just in Germany last week and it wasnt in stock at all
Untill I ordered it on media markt and it arrived on the day after
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Picked up my Grey from BestBuy yesterday from pre-order. The retail launch ones are supposed to go on sale later this week.
I managed to get the grey one today at a Best Buy 45 miles from me, they only had one and no idea when or if the store will get more stock.
It's mighty nice though, I bought to replace my Note 7, seems much faster