Do the S3 still using 2gb partition for system and 12 as virtual sd?
kersh said:
Do the S3 still using 2gb partition for system and 12 as virtual sd?
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system partition is 1 gb afaik, not sure about the data partition.
I would really like to know this as well.
S2 had a 2gb partition for apps. 11-12 gb for user data.
I wish Android didn't need separate partition for apps. If the device advertise 16 gb of data, give us 16gb of data to use for anything. I find that ridiculous.
I hope they got rid of the partition for apps. If not, I hope they increase the space limit.
bala_gamer said:
system partition is 1 gb afaik, not sure about the data partition.
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Yes, sorry, data partition I wanted to say.
ekjl said:
I would really like to know this as well.
S2 had a 2gb partition for apps. 11-12 gb for user data.
I wish Android didn't need separate partition for apps. If the device advertise 16 gb of data, give us 16gb of data to use for anything. I find that ridiculous.
I hope they got rid of the partition for apps. If not, I hope they increase the space limit.
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I need the same, specially after the infinite reboot bug of the S2 and the note.
Galaxy nexus have only one daat partition of 16gb but.. i dont want a nexus.
I too hope the SIII have one partition, but looking at SII and Note running ICS, I don't think it is likely.
P.S. HTC One X (ICS) also have 2GB for apps and 25GB for user storage.
ekjl said:
I would really like to know this as well.
S2 had a 2gb partition for apps. 11-12 gb for user data.
I wish Android didn't need separate partition for apps. If the device advertise 16 gb of data, give us 16gb of data to use for anything. I find that ridiculous.
I hope they got rid of the partition for apps. If not, I hope they increase the space limit.
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Most new ICS devices only have one partition, the only downside to this is they can't use UMS, only MTP, yes there are mods but well, there mods
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Anyone actually owning the phone can answer this?
kenkiller said:
Anyone actually owning the phone can answer this?
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Its not out yet
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Its not out yet
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Not in your country....but some places already have it.
I bought the phone last night. Installed 16gb class 10 sd card. Can access it only throught builtin file manager not OIbrowser. Also can't shift apps to SD card even after rooting and using app2sd. The optino to move doenst show.
There is single partition now with about 10gb available and 1.1gb in use.
sak500 said:
I bought the phone last night. Installed 16gb class 10 sd card. Can access it only throught builtin file manager not OIbrowser. Also can't shift apps to SD card even after rooting and using app2sd. The optino to move doenst show.
There is single partition now with about 10gb available and 1.1gb in use.
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as per supecurio's report the whole internal sd is shared for both user data nd data, so we will be having the whole 11.5 gb for data, there is no need for app2sd afaik
bala_gamer said:
as per supecurio's report the whole internal sd is shared for both user data nd data, so we will be having the whole 11.5 gb for data, there is no need for app2sd afaik
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what about installing on extSD? Any option or software?
Unless you install 11 gig of apps there's no news. Move your files to the as card and keep the nand memory for apps.
I saw one at store a few days back, and to me it seemed that on a 16GB model, it shows approx 14GB space in applications management. At that time it showed 0.9GB used and 13+ GB free.
Here is the output of df -h, I am using Omega v7.1, don't think it messes around with the partitions, hope it helps:
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Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mmcblk0p9 1.5G 1006.9M 505.0M 67% /system
/dev/block/mmcblk0p12
11.3G 1.7G 9.6G 15% /data
/dev/block/mmcblk0p8 1007.9M 17.3M 990.6M 2% /cache
/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 19.7M 8.3M 11.3M 42% /efs
/dev/fuse 11.3G 1.7G 9.6G 15% /mnt/sdcard
kersh said:
Do the S3 still using 2gb partition for system and 12 as virtual sd?
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No, they belong physically to the same partition. The internal sdcard is a subfolder inside data, so you can't actually use Mass Storage mode because you won't be able to unmount data partition while the operating system is running.
Take a look here:
[GUIDE] MTP and PTP (Media Transfer Protocol) vs UMC (Mass Storage Class)
/sdcard is mounted to /data/media and can totally be "umount" ed....
it's a different file system. They use FUSE to put an exFAT fs inside ext4
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/sdcard is mounted to /data/media and can totally be "umount" ed....
it's a different file system. They use FUSE to put an exFAT fs inside ext4
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I said that you can't umount data, not sdcard, which can do umount, but can't access it from the computer in Mass Storage Mode, right?
Mass storage mode is not an option on the S3. The fact that you cannot umount /data is irrelevant. You wouldn't need to because /sdcard is its own filesystem
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Sorry if a question is repeated, but found nothing that was clear about this, how I wish. I would use hardlinks or softlinks in my sdcard, but the vfat does not support this, as I am linux user, I want to format my sd for a standard ext2 / 3 or 4 that the best fit, you can format the entire card for this format ? Because I found many people talking about the need for a vfat partition, but it is really necessary or changing the fstab I can use a card purely ext2/3/4??
thanks
Did it work? Because I am also a linux user and also want to get rid of vfat on sdcard. Stupid vfat does not allow my to even sync with dropbox since I have filenames which would blow the brains of microsoft out
Yes, according to a thread in nexus s, you can do it. The writing speed is faster that vfat too.
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Actually that thread looks at internal sd card. I do not care much about that but would like to have external sd as ext2. I tried to plug it in but the system that that it is not recognized and asked for formatting.
snovik said:
Actually that thread looks at internal sd card. I do not care much about that but would like to have external sd as ext2. I tried to plug it in but the system that that it is not recognized and asked for formatting.
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Use "gparted"
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melvinchng said:
Use "gparted"
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use it for what?
my problem is that I have an exf2-formated sdcard which android spits out saying that it can eat it only in vfat way. And I can not use vfat because I have filesnames with : and ? and so on. gparted is not going to solve my problem
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Actually that thread looks at internal sd card. I do not care much about that but would like to have external sd as ext2. I tried to plug it in but the system that that it is not recognized and asked for formatting.
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snovik said:
use it for what?
my problem is that I have an exf2-formated sdcard which android spits out saying that it can eat it only in vfat way. And I can not use vfat because I have filesnames with : and ? and so on. gparted is not going to solve my problem
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You said your system asked you to format, so I recommended gparted.
And I Don't understand >>> And now what is android can "eat"it in vfat?
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So i haven't used link2sd but i've read many good things so i'm trying it out on my OG evo while I wait for best buy to call me and tell me my evoLTE is in. For those that already have the phone can you give me a simple walk through for partitioning and which format to use, ext2, ext3,ext4, etc
i just did a partition using amon's recovery and made a 2gb ext3 on the OG evo. about to download link2sd and give it a try
edit...i have my evoLTE but I'm hesitant to partition my 32sd card.. any input anyone??
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I don't think you'd need to use link2sd. Maybe phones with 1gig of storage like on the OG EVO but the LTE has 16 gigs internal.
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16gigs internal but i thought only 2gigs was for app data...did i read that wrong, i'm pretty sure only 2gb are allocated for apps
yep i triple checked....2gb for apps
for anyone interested Link2SD works fine if you make the partition ext2, I made a 8gb ext2 partition on my 32gb card and moved apps over to the sd just fine. I saw multiple posts about people wishing they could store their apps on the external sd, well this is one way
As of version 2.1.1 Link2sd will NOT work on El Tevo. It doesn't recognize the external sdcard. It only recognizes the internal flash ram - which is not something I want to partition at this time.
Particularly since I'm waiting for a non-HTC method of unlocking the bootloader and I have no custom recovery/nandroid.
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As of version 2.1.1 Link2sd will NOT work on El Tevo. It doesn't recognize the external sdcard. It only recognizes the internal flash ram - which is not something I want to partition at this time.
Particularly since I'm waiting for a non-HTC method of unlocking the bootloader and I have no custom recovery/nandroid.
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i have v2.1.1 and it works just fine...i moved apps to my partition on my external sd card just fine and i saw the memory on my internal memory get larger as i moved. All the apps that i moved work just fine as well
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i have v2.1.1 and it works just fine...i moved apps to my partition on my external sd card just fine and i saw the memory on my internal memory get larger as i moved. All the apps that i moved work just fine as well
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Hows performance? Most of the time you take a hit on that area when you run any type of apps to SD programs ...
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I haven't noticed any change in the apps i moved to link2sd....i didn't move any apps that deal with music or video though like Netflix, slingplayer, YouTube. so just be smart about which apps you move, but it works great
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dahray02 said:
i have v2.1.1 and it works just fine...i moved apps to my partition on my external sd card just fine and i saw the memory on my internal memory get larger as i moved. All the apps that i moved work just fine as well
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I finally got around to downgrading my partition from ext3/4 to ext2. It works just fine now - just like dahray said.
I also haven't noticed any major performance hits.
How would you change the partition? I've been trying to figure out how to save my apps on my 32gb since I got this phone. Link2SD doesn't detect my external at all.
sbjohnny said:
How would you change the partition? I've been trying to figure out how to save my apps on my 32gb since I got this phone. Link2SD doesn't detect my external at all.
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Use a programm like Minitool Partition Wizard, there are others that are similar but i like this one because it is simple to use and allows youcreate a second partition on your SD without having to format it. So you don't have to backup and then put everything back on the card again.
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Use a programm like Minitool Partition Wizard, there are others that are similar but i like this one because it is simple to use and allows youcreate a second partition on your SD without having to format it. So you don't have to backup and then put everything back on the card again.
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i have a 32gb card. i want a 4gb partition for apps, so i need to make one ext2 that is 4gb...does the exact size matter? also, does the 2nd partition need named? if so, what should i name it? i downloaded minitool partition wizard and it looks easy enough.
The exact size doesn't matter and it doesn't have to be named.
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step by step instructions here....just use ext2 for your partition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
dahray02 said:
step by step instructions here....just use ext2 for your partition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459
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that took a couple of minutes. super easy. thank you for the link to the tutorial!
I'm not sure what's going on here. The storage use page in settings is reporting a total space of 5.50 GB. However when I run fdisk -l on mmcblk0 is says 15.9 gig. How can I fix that?
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I'm not sure what's going on here. The storage use page in settings is reporting a total space of 5.50 GB. However when I run fdisk -l on mmcblk0 is says 15.9 gig. How can I fix that?
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mmcblk0 is the entire hard disk of your NT, so it should be right near 16GB.
The internal storage is only 1 partition of the disk. There are 9 or so other partitions that are being used for other things that contribute to the storage adding up to the 16GB.
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm going to have to adb into the device to find out how the disk is partitioned. I should have more than 5.5 GB of storage on the 16GB model. I use parted print to look at that, correct?
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Zuul86 said:
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm going to have to adb into the device to find out how the disk is partitioned. I should have more than 5.5 GB of storage on the 16GB model. I use parted print to look at that, correct?
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Yes, you can use the Parted tool. If you got your NT second hand, it may have already been manually repartitioned meaning the rest of available user space would be in the /mnt/media partition.
Or if you're running a ROM from an SD card currently, the "Internal Storage" would actually be just one of the partitions of the microSD card.
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Yes, you can use the Parted tool. If you got your NT, second hand, it my have already been manually repartitioned meaning the rest of available user space would be in the /mnt/media. Or if you're running a ROM from an SD card currently, the "Internal Storage" would actually be just one of the partitions of the microSD card.
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So I used the parted tool to look at my Nook partitions. I'm still a little confused. Storage, in Settings, is reporting 5.5GB total in the data partition, and 1 GB in the media partition. See attached screen shots.
When I run (parted)print I get the follow output. Shouldn't the media partition in the Settings>Storage screen read ~7.8GB?
Number Start End Size File system Name
1 131kB 262kB 131kB xloader
2 262kB 524kB 262kB bootloader
3 524kB 16.3MB 15.7MB recovery
4 16.8MB 33.6MB 16.8MB boot
5 33.6MB 83.9MB 50.3MB fat32 rom
6 83.9MB 134MB 50.3MB fat32 bootdata
7 134MB 522MB 388MB ext4 factory
8 522MB 1164MB 642MB ext4 system
9 1164MB 1611MB 447MB ext4 cache
10 1611MB 9630MB 8020MB fat32 media
11 9630MB 15.6GB 6004MB ext4 userdata
Shouldn't the media partition in the Settings>Storage screen read ~7.8GB?
Yes, it should. It should also have that section titled "/mnt/emmc" or "Additional Storage". It could very possibly be an error in the build.prop of the CM10 ROM where the additional storage isn't set up correctly.
If you want, you could take a look in the build.prop to see what's there. I'm away and didn't bring my NT with me or else I would look.
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Solar.Plexus said:
Yes, it should. It should also have that section titled "/mnt/emmc" or "Additional Storage". It could very possibly be an error in the build.prop of the CM10 ROM where the additional storage isn't set up correctly.
If you want, you could take a look in the build.prop to see what's there. I'm away and didn't bring my NT with me or else I would look.
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build.prop has the following setting.
ro.additionalmounts=/storage/sdcard0;/storage/sdcard1;
This makes sense as sdcard0 points to a folder that contains B&N Downloads and MyFiles. This is the 1GB B&N content. sdcard1 is my external sdcard, that also makes sense.
What I don't get is where the other ~7GB is. Is the 1GB B&N content just a part of the media partition? Where is the root mount point for the media partition?
Do you recommend to get rid of the media partition, and add the space to data partition since I'm running CM10 and not using the stock rom?
Zuul86 said:
build.prop has the following setting.
ro.additionalmounts=/storage/sdcard0;/storage/sdcard1;
This makes sense as sdcard0 points to a folder that contains B&N Downloads and MyFiles. This is the 1GB B&N content. sdcard1 is my external sdcard, that also makes sense.
What I don't get is where the other ~7GB is. Is the 1GB B&N content just a part of the media partition? Where is the root mount point for the media partition?
Do you recommend to get rid of the media partition, and add the space to data partition since I'm running CM10 and not using the stock rom?
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Don't be mistaken, you still have the ~8GB of /mnt/emmc storage available to you, as seen using the Parted tool.
You could check this by trying to transfer a file bigger than 1GB to that partition.
It just seems to me like the Settings -> Storage menu is pointing to the wrong place.
Solar.Plexus said:
Don't be mistaken, you still have the ~8GB of /mnt/emmc storage available to you, as seen using the Parted tool.
You could check this by trying to transfer a file bigger than 1GB to that partition.
It just seems to me like the Settings -> Storage menu is pointing to the wrong place.
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When I plug the nook into the computer and browse to the removable storage I see two drives appear. One is the external SD card and the other is labeled myNook with a size of 1GB.
Zuul86 said:
When I plug the nook into the computer and browse to the removable storage I see two drives appear. One is the external SD card and the other is labeled myNook with a size of 1GB.
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You've already done a manual repartition, correct?
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You've already done a manual repartition, correct?
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No, used the method from this post to recover from a bricked state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836
Zuul86 said:
No, used the method from this post to recover from a bricked state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836
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Ah I see. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what to tell you.
It could be that you need to repartition and make that entire 10th partition usable to you. Because the way it looks now, only 1GB of that space is usable currently.
It might be worth looking into a little more.
Ok, thanks. I'll dig into it and figure it out. I'll post my findings when I figure it out.
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RESOLVED
I've fixed my storage issue. I'm not sure why the media partition looked like it was 1GB when parted read
10 1611MB 9630MB 8020MB fat32 media
I ran (parted) resize on 10 with the start and end positions above and resolve my storage issue. One thing I did note is that the partition now has the flag msftres. I don't know what that is though.
Zuul86 said:
I've fixed my storage issue. I'm not sure why the media partition looked like it was 1GB when parted read
10 1611MB 9630MB 8020MB fat32 media
I ran (parted) resize on 10 with the start and end positions above and resolve my storage issue. One thing I did note is that the partition now has the flag msftres. I don't know what that is though.
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I'm pretty sure that stands for Microsoft Reserved. And there should be a way to clear the flag in Parted, but I'm not entirely sure.
Is there any way I can mount a folder from the internal sdcard as USB mass storage?
( I am aware that I can mount an external sd but I don't happen to have one.)
jhonwds said:
Is there any way I can mount a folder from the internal sdcard as USB mass storage?
( I am aware that I can mount an external sd but I don't happen to have one.)
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Once I connect my phone it shows internal and external as two drives. You just can't mount e.g. the system folders if I am right.
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No.
jhonwds said:
Is there any way I can mount a folder from the internal sdcard as USB mass storage?
( I am aware that I can mount an external sd but I don't happen to have one.)
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No.
And here is why:
On the newer phones there is no seperate phone memory and internal SD, its just one big memory. The good thing about ir is, that you can install a lot more apps, because the whole memory is usable for the phone. The bad side is, that you can only access it through MTP.
In order to make it available as USB mass storage it needs to be unmounted, but this is not possible, because it is used by the phone. If you do it, the phone will crash. Its just like pulling a memory chip out of a running PC.
A filesystem can be mounted on different locations. If more than one location has write access, it will cause irreparable damage though.
The main problem here is that that the device uses the ext4 filesystem which Windows cannot process.
As a fix (sort of) you can
- swap internal and external storage.
- use a Smb over Wifi app and mount the share in Windows
- use a pseudo-filesysem such as sshfs from your computer
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No.
And here is why:
On the newer phones there is no seperate phone memory and internal SD, its just one big memory. The good thing about ir is, that you can install a lot more apps, because the whole memory is usable for the phone. The bad side is, that you can only access it through MTP.
In order to make it available as USB mass storage it needs to be unmounted, but this is not possible, because it is used by the phone. If you do it, the phone will crash. Its just like pulling a memory chip out of a running PC.
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I dont think so and disagree with you... galaxy s i9000 and galaxy s2 i9100 also same. But they can mount internal and external as UMS or MTP.
Maybe the different in filesystem is the main cause.
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On the S3, the whole internal memory is one big chunk (called /data). How would you go about mounting that as UMP when android is running? Android is using /data, therefore you can't unmount it and remount is as UMS.
If I'm wrong (which I may very well be), then post valid proof.
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On the S3, the whole internal memory is one big chunk (called /data). How would you go about mounting that as UMP when android is running? Android is using /data, therefore you can't unmount it and remount is as UMS.
If I'm wrong (which I may very well be), then post valid proof.
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Understood.. thanks for the info.. just found it out...
So internal sdcard is a mount point of folder /data/media
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syamsoul said:
Understood.. thanks for the info.. just found it out...
So internal sdcard is a mount point of folder /data/media
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HI there, by chance are you able to recover from the "internal memory" after a factory reset, on a galaxy s3.
I am not sure what the consensus was-
-i recently thought google had all my photos backed up and did a factory reset, and lost everything.
Am hoping if I keep the phone that I can find a way to recover the photos.
Thank you.
resetrebel said:
HI there, by chance are you able to recover from the "internal memory" after a factory reset, on a galaxy s3.
I am not sure what the consensus was-
-i recently thought google had all my photos backed up and did a factory reset, and lost everything.
Am hoping if I keep the phone that I can find a way to recover the photos.
Thank you.
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i myself never try but you can try this
XDA post
techiesstuff
Both same way
syamsoul said:
i myself never try but you can try this
XDA post
techiesstuff
Both same way
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I just wanted to say thanks for posting that second link. I've been looking everywhere for a way to export the raw mount to recover files from internal /sdcard.
Oh and in response to the first thread, I believe the reason they were getting that error (the thread is locked unfortunately) is because they used -1 (the number one) rather than -l (the letter L). I made this mistake too.
Edit: Probably should have used the 'thanks' button, sorry. Can't delete post.
If you have a custom recovery installed boot into that and mount ums from there, as recovery doesn't depend on the data partition it can unmount and remount it
Why does my i777 show two partitions a 2gb and 12 GB? All my apps are installing to the 2 Gb partition and it looks like I reached my limit? Did I make a partition by accident in kernel settings? Can I revert back?
Dimatchka said:
Why does my i777 show two partitions a 2gb and 12 GB? All my apps are installing to the 2 Gb partition and it looks like I reached my limit? Did I make a partition by accident in kernel settings? Can I revert back?
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USB storage is partitioned that way by default on our phones.
dsmboost said:
USB storage is partitioned that way by default on our phones.
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That's weird because on my nexus 4 I have one partition and I can use it to install apps and use it for what ever else I need. So when I fill up those 2 GB with apps I can't do anything else to install more?
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Dimatchka said:
That's weird because on my nexus 4 I have one partition and I can use it to install apps and use it for what ever else I need. So when I fill up those 2 GB with apps I can't do anything else to install more?
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By default, apps install on the 2gb partition. If there is separate data that needs to be downloaded (like for games), it will install on the 12gb partition. If you're running out of room, go to the app manager and move some apps to the "sd card" (which is actually the 12gb partition, not your external sd card).