http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/sprint-cancelling-early-upgrades/
(memo is in the link above)
Like dominoes, Sprint's consumer-friendly policies continue to fall one at a time. Citing "high costs," the Now Network will begin discontinuing its practice of allowing customers to upgrade their phone 10-14 days prior to the official date of eligibility. According to the memo leaked by TechnoBuffalo, the program will cease to exist as of June 1st. It sounds like this policy change is an unfortunate consequence of the company's large investments in iPhones and its still-dormant LTE network. It may not be enough to convince many Sprint customers to jump ship, but this isn't the first cost-cutting measure put forth by Dan Hesse's team -- and we have a hard time believing it will be the last. We've reached out to Sprint for official comment and will update you as soon as we have word.
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Next thing you know they will start limiting data...
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not sure why this is that big of a deal? is that really that much of an incentive?
unless your early eligibility window directly coincided with a major phone release (like the iphone5 which i hear has the same cloaking capability as Predator and is run by cold fusion with a display that beams directly to your brain) and you HAVE to be the first one to get it...then who cares if you have to wait until you are actually eligible for the upgrade to get it??
yousefak said:
Next thing you know they will start limiting data...
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Not happening
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You waited 20+ months, what is another 10-14 days?
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Yes it will definitely happen at some point. everywhere the iPhone goes eliminates the "unlimited Data Plan".
Verizon today also said that they're no longer allowing people to be grandfathered in. So no unlimited for anyone.
But i agree, this isn't that big of news too me but it is somewhat heartbreaking to see. First they destroyed the Premiere Members plan and now this.
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IMO that'd be their kiss of death. It's the ONLY advantage they have compared to ATT and VZ. With all the other niggling changes (the change in how discounts are applied, the change in how shared plans are accounted for, etc) they are barely ahead of VZ in price for me (4 4G phones - what where's 4g?? - and 1 basic phone, and i can get away with 4gb data most months no problem) and if the network doesn't get better, i'm gone, let alone how fast I'd bail if they limited their unlimited...
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Joey_UFC said:
Yes it will definitely happen at some point. everywhere the iPhone goes eliminates the "unlimited Data Plan".
Verizon today also said that they're no longer allowing people to be grandfathered in. So no unlimited for anyone.
But i agree, this isn't that big of news too me but it is somewhat heartbreaking to see. First they destroyed the Premiere Members plan and now this.
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here's an idea - TIER THE ISHEEP
leave us real smartphone users alone and limit/tier/throttle the iSheep users.
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IMO that'd be their kiss of death. It's the ONLY advantage they have compared to ATT and VZ. With all the other niggling changes (the change in how discounts are applied, the change in how shared plans are accounted for, etc) they are barely ahead of VZ in price for me (4 4G phones - what where's 4g?? - and 1 basic phone, and i can get away with 4gb data most months no problem) and if the network doesn't get better, i'm gone, let alone how fast I'd bail if they limited their unlimited...
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here's an idea - TIER THE ISHEEP
leave us real smartphone users alone and limit/tier/throttle the iSheep users.
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I still do not believe that iPhone has made connection slow for others and Sprint has said (if their truth to it or not) that iPhone has not slowed down data speeds for us other phones.
iPhone is not the problem, it's people who are with VZW who obviously don't mind paying a premiere price for their phone bills. Sprint is playing catch up with these other companies and becoming more and more of a elite company. no more of this VZW>ATT>SPRINT crap. they will be the 3 headed monsters in due time
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You waited 20+ months, what is another 10-14 days?
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True but reverse the question, does it hurt Sprint to keep something that small of a perk?
It probably cost more money to update the staff & the system on the few minutes they took to address it.
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Joey_UFC said:
Yes it will definitely happen at some point. everywhere the iPhone goes eliminates the "unlimited Data Plan".
Verizon today also said that they're no longer allowing people to be grandfathered in. So no unlimited for anyone.
But i agree, this isn't that big of news too me but it is somewhat heartbreaking to see. First they destroyed the Premiere Members plan and now this.
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With the burden that is iPhone I think sprint would dump the ifrown before the only ace sprint has
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Next thing you know they will start limiting data...
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Very possible it will. I've read an article (PCWorld, I think it was) that explained it clearly. Each carrier purchases/rents a certain amount of data spectrum. Verizon and AT&T started throttling and limiting data because usage on their respective spectrums were getting close to the limit. NOW, taking that into consideration, Sprint very literally owns/rents half of the spectrum that Verizon and AT&T do. So, what does that tell you? Eventually, even though they are not ready to state it publicly, chances are Sprint will abandon unlimited data.
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See above.
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You waited 20+ months, what is another 10-14 days?
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True story, sir.
The thing is that Sprint always releases their flagship HTC phone in about the middle of May. Many people's upgrade date is June 1st, so that 14 days allows people who want to upgrade have the ability too pre-order. Now I hope that Sprint and HTC work together and make their flagship phone released on June 1st.
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Honestly guys do you really think the Iphone is what pulls in the data? I'll give you an example. With my evo 3D, I pulled in over 9GB's last month on 3G and a little 4G(no torrenting) but both of my sisters own the iphone and they used 4 GB's together on our shared plan. One is somewhat tech-savvy but is on it constantly while the other uses it mainly for phone and pandora. Most iphone users don't know how to rape the unlimited data plans like I do. It's only going to be unlimited for so long so why not use it up. You want to complain you should complain to the average user on this site. We are the people using up the data not most of the iphone users.
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Honestly guys do you really think the Iphone is what pulls in the data? I'll give you an example. With my evo 3D, I pulled in over 9GB's last month on 3G and a little 4G(no torrenting) but both of my sisters own the iphone and they used 4 GB's together on our shared plan. One is somewhat tech-savvy but is on it constantly while the other uses it mainly for phone and pandora. Most iphone users don't know how to rape the unlimited data plans like I do. It's only going to be unlimited for so long so why not use it up. You want to complain you should complain to the average user on this site. We are the people using up the data not most of the iphone users.
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I'd rather not look at it as a "use as much as I can while it's still free" situation. If I need to download something significant, I'll use my home computer on broadband. I rarely download new ROMs directly with my phone. I'd rather not contribute to Sprint even having to consider throttling by only downloading what I need to with my phone so I can use more when I really have to.
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I'd rather not look at it as a "use as much as I can while it's still free" situation. If I need to download something significant, I'll use my home computer on broadband. I rarely download new ROMs directly with my phone. I'd rather not contribute to Sprint even having to consider throttling by only downloading what I need to with my phone so I can use more when I really have to.
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sprint shouldn't consider throttling because people are downloading things with their phone, thats the whole point of havnig an unlimited data plan, to not have to nit pick when and which files to download
it'd be different if i was downloading movies to my phone, to then transfer to my computer instead of just using my computers broadband, but why wouldn't a user with unlimited data download a file through the phone, when the file is for the phone?
lets all stop streaming music also, i mean we could download it with our computers, then transfer it to our phones, then make a playlist, that'd save sprint from having to throttle!
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VZW>ATT>SPRINT crap. they will be the 3 headed monsters in due time
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How do you fit a gsm head on a cdma dragon body?
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http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
u wiggin on us dood?
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http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
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http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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no kidding. I checked and will clear 20 gigs this month...lol
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Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
NewZJ said:
u wiggin on us dood?
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Lol...maybe! But I have a couple buds who moved to ATT, and I tried a phone out there myself....and that 2G cap is ridiculous! Seriously.
I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
Its going to happen eventually regardless.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
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The fact that they don't limit or even slow you down when you reach 5 gigs of services is why I switched back to sprint.
You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
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You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
The few screwing it up for the rest of us...go figure.
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It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
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I won't say it'll never happen.. But, the unlimited data is one of the few perks that brings in/keeps customers for Sprint. I haven't been treated badly by Sprint, but I've got no reason to remain loyal for loyalty's sake.
I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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100% agree on all fronts.
Their CS is fantastic, bar none...but without truly unlimited data I no longer give a **** about that. If I have to pick between the big 3.....AT&T would have the fastest 3G and most pervasive 4G...Verizon would have the best "all around" pricing and fastest 4G and Sprint would have....what? The worst coverage AND crappy plans but pleasant customer service? No thanks. I'll take verizon.
...I hate AT&T with a passion. I have them for home internet service. I have never in my life been treated so poorly by a service I pay for....paying a bill over the phone or online is a gigantic pain in the ass...and I have never ever had a service shut off for paying a service IN FULL, EARLY until I had the modern-day incarnation of AT&T....and I am far from alone on that.
This is Sprint's ace in the hole...well, that and Google recently buddying up with them....but...lacking unlimited data they have no compelling reason to stick around.
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I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
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I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
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This pretty much describes my tethering usage, except the kids part.
I like the leaked plans from AT&T for their LTE pricing. This is based off of what Lulsec stole today, but apparently AT&T is going to go with speed tiers when their LTE is released instead of bandwidth caps, you just pay for how fast you want your internet. To me that makes more sense.
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
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Yeah, umm, unless that torrent download is an absolute emergency (and I actually have been in that situation before...on the road at a trade show....needed a kinda huge file I had hosted at home....) you are just torrenting tethered off your phone to show off...even 4G sucks relative to even a basic cable-modem connection.....
I think the people who use 10+gb a month tethering illegally should take a step back and think about what they're doing. Just pay the price every month to tether the right way. Because once you guys really piss Sprint off, that 20gb you use every month is going to cost a fortune thanks to the tiered data policy they will enact. Then you'll be paying MORE than you would have if you had paid for the tethering.
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I have been with sprint since 1999.
I am finally fed up with abysmally slow data speeds. .010 up and down. On my 3rd 4g phone and still no 4g, even paying the extra $10 a month for "premium" data. I think the $10 is just to make the little icon turn on on the phone, and thats it.
I was looking at verizon. Does anyone recommend any phones or plans?
I hear great things, except for the data cap.
But I am willing to suffer the data cap. Even though I have an unlimited data plan now, I still would be nice to have DATA.
Sprint needs to update their network from smoke signals to dial up speed. I hear thunderbolt is the phone to get? Is it rootable? Can you tether on verizon?
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I hear thunderbolt is the phone to get?
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yeah, like last year.
IF you're going to switch, get the Galaxy Nexus. otherwise.. you can wait for sprint's nexus.
I am thinking of doing the exact same thing. Only problem I have is I am still in contract until the end of this year. I have a co-worker who owns the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus and it is VERY nice. I have also heard good things about the Moto Razr. Verizon is currently offering their doubling their caps on data. I think the 2gb is now 4gb until Jan. 15th but double check.
It is difficult to switch to Verizon because it costs around $40 more per month but I feel like I am paying $100 too much per month with Sprint. The data speeds are horrific. I get no more than 300kbps down and my co-worker gets 1.5meg on Verizon 3g and at LEAST 8megs on Verizon LTE. It is embarrassing and extremely annoying how slow my data is.
Anyway...good luck to you on your switch. I will make the switch at the end of this year.
Switch if you need to switch, but before try asking some knowledgeable sprint employees about any planned network improvements in your area, because if you leave and then the forever promised upgrades start really happening you might be regretting your decision
But then again if you got the cake go head and switch
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How do you find someone knowledgeable at Sprint? I cannot find anyone dialing the customer service number and tech numbers that can give any definitive info on tower upgrades.
Trying not to be sarcastic.
I switched one month ago to Verizon after being with Sprint for 9 years. Even though I have a data cap and my bill is about 30 bucks higher. I am so glad I did. I didn't realize how bad sprints data service was until switching. Sure the price is a bit higher, but I am ok with it since I actually have 4g.
I did go with the Thunderbolt even though in cell phone age it is old. The reason, because it is rootable. I had a hard time not going with the Rezound because it was pretty slick, but it's only temproot capable. If you couldn't tell, I prefer HTC...
Anyways, Verizon has a deal online you can get double the data for the same price. So I have 22 gigs of data to use. I live in the country and have no other source of highspeed internet than my phone. While using tethering, using my xbox360, youtube, and netflix I have only hit 12 gigs so far... Of course 8 gigs of that was in one weeks time.
If you don't want to sign up online. Go to a retail store and show them that you can get double data by buying online and they should be able to hook you up with the same deal. That is what I did without any problems. They even matched the price of the Thunderbolt to what it was going for online with contract.
Hurry up and switch if you are... Verizon has 4gb of data for the same price until the 15th... just a suggestion.
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I switched to Verizon after having sprint for over 4 years. I got the galaxy nexus. There's a loophole to get unlimited data,but that might be closed. There's a thread in the rezound forums about it. I had originally got the 10 gig plan but got unlimited data using the loophole. With my discounts its actually cheaper than what I was paying on sprint and I actually have awesome data speeds on top of 4g.
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I made the switch been happy ever since lol I still have one sprint line
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spencer88 said:
I switched to Verizon after having sprint for over 4 years. I got the galaxy nexus. There's a loophole to get unlimited data,but that might be closed. There's a thread in the rezound forums about it. I had originally got the 10 gig plan but got unlimited data using the loophole. With my discounts its actually cheaper than what I was paying on sprint and I actually have awesome data speeds on top of 4g.
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Can you post a link?
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I was thinking about switching to Verizon but I don't know yet, I'm still on the fence. I kind of want to wait and see how Sprint's LTE do first.
i am currently on two lines one with sprint and the other with verizon.
i took over another person's old unlimited plan so there's no way verizon will drop my plan. I am not too sure how verizon will react to all the people using the loophole.
450mins unlim data iphone 4 32gb right now and they upgraded the line early for free! i have a 4s getting ready to be sold online. i havent really been able to use data much. but verizon is definitely alot faster thats for sure.
i also have sero premium. using the evo 3d. is it true i can use the marqueee and not pay the additional 10 bucks a month?
No advice here but let us know how it is over there
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I switched to Verizon after having sprint for over 4 years. I got the galaxy nexus. There's a loophole to get unlimited data,but that might be closed. There's a thread in the rezound forums about it. I had originally got the 10 gig plan but got unlimited data using the loophole. With my discounts its actually cheaper than what I was paying on sprint and I actually have awesome data speeds on top of 4g.
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I read somewhere they had a "Team" that was auditing accounts and shutting this down. Like actually removing it from accounts that found the loophole.
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I read somewhere they had a "Team" that was auditing accounts and shutting this down. Like actually removing it from accounts that found the loophole.
<Edit> Heres a link: http://consumerist.com/2012/01/veri...ophole-returns-account-to-tiered-pricing.html
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Its closed and my unlimited data didn't get removed
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sad thing is, alot of people seem to be on the same line of thought, used to be that you could justify the crappy signal cause you were paying 50-75 less than any other carrier. Now they just keep closing that price gap making it harder to stay with it. Myself, I'm about ready to take my 4 lines to att or vzn. if I lower my minutes (which I never use) I can actually get it cheaper.
sad, paid for 4g never saw it..for either montgomery, ny, and now I'm near DC.. now lte pipedreams...
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Can you post a link?
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Wouldn't hurt to try it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370720
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KB112 said:
I read somewhere they had a "Team" that was auditing accounts and shutting this down. Like actually removing it from accounts that found the loophole.
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I doubt they are auditing 100 million accounts.
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Its closed and my unlimited data didn't get removed
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Mine isn't removed as well. I've had it almost a month.
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ekz13 said:
sad thing is, alot of people seem to be on the same line of thought, used to be that you could justify the crappy signal cause you were paying 50-75 less than any other carrier. Now they just keep closing that price gap making it harder to stay with it. Myself, I'm about ready to take my 4 lines to att or vzn. if I lower my minutes (which I never use) I can actually get it cheaper.
sad, paid for 4g never saw it..for either montgomery, ny, and now I'm near DC.. now lte pipedreams...
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Dude. Make the switch. I always thought I couldn't justify paying more for less perks than I had with Sprint. The coverage and data speeds are worth every penny. To my surprise I actually pay less with my employer discounts. I had every intention to go into Verizon paying more though.
The difference is night and day.
My 4g on the galaxy nexus is 15down minimum unlimited $30
Dude. Make the switch. I always thought I couldn't justify paying more for less perks than I had with Sprint. The coverage and data speeds are worth every penny. To my surprise I actually pay less with my employer discounts. I had every intention to go into Verizon paying more though.
The difference is night and day.
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I hear ya.. I probably should. I'm just afraid of a whole new set of issues when switching. I've read a good share of their horror stories too, I may try a single line and carry that around and see how it does.
I've been with Sprint for >10 years now, mainly because it was the best overall deal around. However, lately they have been getting rid of the perks that made them a better choice for me over Verizon or AT&T. I have been toying with the idea of moving my 3 lines over to Verizon, actually visited a Verizon store over the xmas break. Now I hear that Sprint is cancelling their employee discount on all lines except the primary line and that has done if for me. Feb 1 I am going to fight to get out of my contract based on the "adverse material change to my contract" and switch to Verizon. If Sprint is going to charge me as much as Verizon and AT&T then they need to provide the same level of service as the others. My 150kbs speeds are a joke, especially when I'm paying (and have been for going on 2 years now) a $10 surcharge for "premium data".
why is Sprint still advertising and selling WiMAX phones? especially for my zip code that not only dose not have it and never will! why on earth should someone pay $99.00 for evo3d, marry sprint for 2 years knowing darn well they will be forced to break contract! where is the FCC or there consumer groups?
seriously, there has to be a law. now if they gave them away, no contract, and no $10 data monthly, that would ale sense.
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They still sell them cuz their wimax is still in use and they don't have any lte phones yet. So no it isn't illegal.
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They're juuuust beginning to roll out LTE, and Wimax is in far more places right now.
Besides, sprint can't just throw all their existing phone inventory in the trash, especially when there are so few (if any?) LTE phones available yet.
No LTE phones, WiMax is still up. LTE won't even be large for another two years.
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No LTE phones, WiMax is still up. LTE won't even be large for another two years.
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what happens when I sign 2 year marriage and you shut down in 1.5 years? sucks cause that are what they are doing!
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They are keeping WiMax up until 2015. They've already nixed any new WiMax phones this year. Everyone will be out of contract by the time they bring WiMax down.
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They are keeping WiMax up until 2015. They've already nixed any new WiMax phones this year. Everyone will be out of contract by the time they bring WiMax down.
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This is exactly right. WiMax will be up until everyone's contract is up. I believe they stopped bringing more WiMax phones also.
So by 2015 WIMAX will be completely down?
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No idea. All we know is that they signed agreements with clearwire to keep it running until 2015.
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so the question remains, what happens to my Photon (or any WiMAX device) in 2015? What if I want to keep Photon? I used to work with a guy that had a 10 year old Sprint phone with SIM card (I know cause I lost 10 bucks to him!), maybe I want to keep photon for 10 years.
my point is, your double screwed by Sprint!!! You get screwed by Sprint by paying for a phone that everyone knows will be worthless in 2015. Then in 2015 your forced to pay them (or another carrier) again because what you have is junk?
im fairly sure what its gunna turn into (look at iden for proof) is that all the towers with wimax will have it until either they need that slot for something else, or the wimax card dies...
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so the question remains, what happens to my Photon (or any WiMAX device) in 2015? What if I want to keep Photon? I used to work with a guy that had a 10 year old Sprint phone with SIM card (I know cause I lost 10 bucks to him!), maybe I want to keep photon for 10 years.
my point is, your double screwed by Sprint!!! You get screwed by Sprint by paying for a phone that everyone knows will be worthless in 2015. Then in 2015 your forced to pay them (or another carrier) again because what you have is junk?
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Why would the Photon be junk/worthless just because of no Wimax? If what you are saying is true then my Photon (along with many others) is worthless right now because my area never has had nor will ever get Wimax. I still find it very useful and a great phone without it.
Sprint cannot continue to support older products forever. If they did then there wouldn't be enough money to put into newer technologies and therefore could not stay competitive. This is why everyone offers upgrade credits/new devices to customers after a few years. Sprint is no different than say, for example, Samsung, which released new model TVs every 4 months and drop support for older models around 6 months - 1 year. It sucks for the consumer but to keep up with competition they must pursue new technology and provide it to the public in a timely fashion. Old products don't make the money, newer products do.
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Old products don't make the money, newer products do.
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That theroy is wack and I can prove it!! I'm 50 years old and went to Vegas and my "Old Product" worked just fine with and without the blue pill upgrade!!!!
It would be nice if we were offered the option to upgrade Photon, even if it cost $$$If you notice, you rarely see me in the Development Section here. I dont change ROMS every other day like some. Once I get my phone how "I" like it and it works, I leave it alone!
Well, maybe I'm missing the point here...but...I'm in the Midwest in a city (of almost 1M people) that was promised Wimax 4G 14 months ago. Sprint 4G has never come here. We even were shown on their coverage maps as 'Coming Soon'. My Photon works just fine on 3G & Wifi...I turned my 4G radio on once just to see if 4G was here, nada.
After 2015, when Wimax is turned off, my Photon will work just as it does today.
(BTW...I'm happy to continue to pay $10/mo so Sprint can build out 2 4g networks for all of you, while ignoring us entirely. Sarcasm intended.)
So...you might feel screwed in 2015...every bill I pay today...I pay to build out 2 4G networks that I might see by 2015 when you've started to feel pissed off. At least you'll have options for 4G phones that will work, and likely Free Phone options by then...I don't even have that option.
I mean, 3 years from now, who knows what technologies will be on our phones by then? Phones will likely be completely different, making our Photons dinosaurs, just like the Pre in my desk drawer...
The photon would become a 3g only worldphone until Sprint converts all of its spectrum to LTE.
You are paying the extra $10 for unlimited data. Sprint is the best bang for buck national carrier. Once you put it in those terms, you'll feel better about it.
All of the carriers are migrating to LTE-only. You're not going to have a mobile phone last you 10 years anymore regardless of carrier.
The good news is that your wireless experience is going to improve more often.
Stop crying about it.
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@dorelse, exactly my point! I buy a new car with navigation system, when car arrives it dose not have it and im promised they will get it. then you tell me that option is not available?
the above would not be bad BUT, by selling WiMAX sprint knows for a fact people in areas like ours don't have it and never will! take out the 4G promise. cool but now they are false advertising!
JMO!
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You still get WiMax wherever it's available. It's not false advertising. You have a choice. Would you rather pay $300 for a Verizon phone that has bloatware, overpriced plans, unstable 4G network that goes down every month, data caps, and crappy battery life? How about an AT&T phone with data caps and crappy service? Maybe a t-mobile phone with throttled data speeds from a carrier that might not exist in 2 years?
You bought a phone that can be used anywhere in the world. You got a WORLDPHONE for the same price as any other top-shelf device Sprint offers even though it has the capability of having superfast data speeds in certain areas. You are paying a relatively low price for unlimited phone data which no other US carrier offers anymore. You can even use this phone as a netbook, nettop, and media center without paying extra plan charges.
Seriously, get a grip.
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I will tell you this and that's that I agree with you 110%. As someone who lives in an area that was promised 4G service by the end of 2010 and still does not have it and never will, I think Sprint sucks balls and has a lot of guts charging "premium data" charges. I pay the same amount as someone in L.A. who has 4G but they get much faster service. Is it fair? No. is there anything that the FCC or anyone else will do about it? Probably not but I do have a suggestion and I am willing to bet would work at some point. Someone needs to find a lawyer that is willing to take on a Class Action case and then the print customers who dont truly receive any "premium data" can join in and get compensated. If anyone wants to do it I'm in for sure.
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You still get WiMax wherever it's available. It's not false advertising. You have a choice. Would you rather pay $300 for a Verizon phone that has bloatware, overpriced plans, unstable 4G network that goes down every month, data caps, and crappy battery life? How about an AT&T phone with data caps and crappy service? Maybe a t-mobile phone with throttled data speeds from a carrier that might not exist in 2 years?
You bought a phone that can be used anywhere in the world. You got a WORLDPHONE for the same price as any other top-shelf device Sprint offers even though it has the capability of having superfast data speeds in certain areas. You are paying a relatively low price for unlimited phone data which no other US carrier offers anymore. You can even use this phone as a netbook, nettop, and media center without paying extra plan charges.
Seriously, get a grip.
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He's got a valid point especially about the premium data charges we all pay and dont all receive service for. Sprint claims they are because of the phones capabilities but they have phones that do not incur the charges and have some of the same data results on 3G. Premium data should only apply to 4G areas. Bottom line.
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He's got a valid point especially about the premium data charges we all pay and dont all receive service for. Sprint claims they are because of the phones capabilities but they have phones that do not incur the charges and have some of the same data results on 3G. Premium data should only apply to 4G areas. Bottom line.
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Makes a point but the $10/month extra is not for WiMax but unlimited data whether it be 3g/4g. At least, that is what Sprint tells us even though the WiMax data is what really costs them the most.
As far as I know there is only one Android phone in Sprint's lineup that doesn't incur the extra charge which is the Samsung Replenish and that was set to change anytime if it hasn't already.
But put all that aside for a moment, even with the extra 10/month it is still a cheaper plan than anyone else. If they weren't already charging the extra 10 I would bet their rates would have been raised already to cover it so the point is basically moot.
The stock part of my phones says 3g .. But the custom rom says 1x ... Sucks when it says you're covered but really not.. And please let's not start on 4g..
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So there's been a rumor going around that is with unlimited data will be pushed into the share all crap April 2013
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So there's been a rumor going around that is with unlimited data will be pushed into the share all crap April 2013
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probably not true, but i'll jump ship to sprint if that happens
I have nobody to share my data with lol
I'm still on contract till 11/13 . But yeah I can totally see myself sharing data with myself. Sounds legit!:good:
If that does happen, they have to let us out with no ETF. More likely, they'll just stop letting people keep it when their contract expires or when they renew, even if they pay full retail for a phone. They stand to lose an awful lot of customers if they were to just yank it from everybody that still has it, not to mention the internet and media backlash. Then again, it's just that: a rumor.
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Then again, it's just that: a rumor.
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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Even if it is true, April, 2013 isn't all that soon. But the Verizon CFO hasn't blabbed about it so it can't be true.
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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If they just change your data plan during your contract.. Hello cancellation w/ no ETF!
I'll tell you someone's who getting out of his contract for free if that happens.
Me.
I'm supposed to have unlimited until January of 2014.
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If they just change your data plan during your contract.. Hello cancellation w/ no ETF!
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That's exactly what I said. And not only that line but every line on your account can cancel if they force them into a shared plan since it affects every line. But I seriously doubt they will just yank them. They have millions of customers with grandfathered plans and millions of those customers will just pack up their phones and leave if that happens. Overnight they could shrink to the number 2 service provider. I'm not saying they'll let us keep our data plans forever, but they're not going to yank everybody at once either because it doesn't make a bit of business sense. It makes a ton more business sense to just let contracts run out and in less than 2 years they won't have any grandfathered subscribers. They may not be making as much money off of people with unlimited data plans but I'm sure that the vast majority of them are still profitable customers and therefore it's better to hang on to them.
To the people that say it's going to happen soon, proof or GTFO.
To reiterate what others have said. I don't think they can just do that, without the contract becoming null and void, if that is the case, then its a breech of contact on their part. They would have to let us out of the contract withput paying ETFs.
My contract is up Nov 2013 and I was told as long as I don't upgrade then I will.be fine.
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So were you guys gonna go? Sprint? Good luck with that you forget how fast Verizon's network is and what 3G is like.. Remember you get what you pay for. Just saying...
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So were you guys gonna go? Sprint? Good luck with that you forget how fast Verizon's network is and what 3G is like.. Remember you get what you pay for. Just saying...
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But April 13 is a long way off. The networks or even companies can shift. Remember there for like 2 years every phone company either sold or bought each other out? In the next year I see companies merging to combat Verizon and not to mention Google's allegedly planned network.
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So were you guys gonna go? Sprint? Good luck with that you forget how fast Verizon's network is and what 3G is like.. Remember you get what you pay for. Just saying...
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Not that I'm leaving but sprint has lte where I live and so does at&t. If Verizon forces me off unlimited, then I would have to weigh my options.
Doubt we would hear anything about that until closer to next summer.
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I am starting to think about Tmo $30 monthly plan. Only 100 minutes, but who cares with groove ip and Google voice. Unlimited data, 4G speed for first 5 gigs. Order a sim for $1 and flash a gsm rom and I am half the price I am paying now.
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damn, if verizons 3g network is as slow and ****ty as it is where i am, i can only imagine how bad sprint etc are...then again, verizons is pretty awful, and i get like full service with under 1mbps download lol
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Its not a rumor... its very true and going into effect very soon...
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So, ICS for the Rezound was a rumor? Because that hasn't happened?
Oh Wait, though, you might be right. Anything to boost profits will happen, so let's see... ICS OTA for the Rezound makes no money for Verizon (Except back when we were promised it and people bought the phones based on that promise. Shared data plan makes astronomical profits for Verizon, so, likely to happen.
UGH. When will the day everyone would be willing to band together and call Verizon and say "Cancel my contract for your lack of commitment and services and promises for updates." The only action that would ever change Verizon's mind on doing what they do. It all comes back to the idea that Verizon has no incentive to give back what they've took and to make ridiculous plans. People continue to buy, buy, buy their phones and sign contracts.
In the end, it's not Verizon's fault. It's the fault of American Greed. no one does anything about it, so companies, like Verizon, continue to play the game and profit off the lack of revolt for practices.
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disclaimer: this was not any sort of personal attack of any comments quoted, or by any persons making such comments. It was a perfect statement to make my point. My opinions are those of my own and may not reflect those of others.
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damn, if verizons 3g network is as slow and ****ty as it is where i am, i can only imagine how bad sprint etc are...then again, verizons is pretty awful, and i get like full service with under 1mbps download lol
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Sprints 3G was around 56k or less. My old dial up modem would have kicked its ass.
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But April 13 is a long way off. The networks or even companies can shift. Remember there for like 2 years every phone company either sold or bought each other out? In the next year I see companies merging to combat Verizon and not to mention Google's allegedly planned network.
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Its tough out there I joked that my cell bill is like a car payment. Really you could, you could lease a car for what cell phones cost.
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UGH. When will the day everyone would be willing to band together and call Verizon and say "Cancel my contract for your lack of commitment and services and promises for updates." The only action that would ever change Verizon's mind on doing what they do. It all comes back to the idea that Verizon has no incentive to give back what they've took and to make ridiculous plans. People continue to buy, buy, buy their phones and sign contracts.
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When more carriers become available more widespread in areas . The only reliable coverage I get in South Dakota where I live and travel to visit back home, is Verizon. Sprint / AT&T are spotty. T-Mobile doesn't exist.
When T-Mobile or Sprint finishes rolling out their LTE networks, will the Rezound be capable of running on either of them?
well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
I only avg 20 GB a month or less. I pay $20 a month for udp
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
agreed. I live out in the boonies, I am on 1x and sometimes 3g. my internet is only dsl at 2.5Mbps (3g speeds) ... so whenever I hit 4g on my phone, I do everything with it. so i sometimes rack up 70gb+ a month. especially when im at work ..teamviewer, netflix, streaming cameras setup at various locations, music is always going, showbox, kodi (tends to use a lot more data than other streaming apps)... the data rack up quick.
Has anyone actually reported receiving a letter yet ?
I use it as primary internet. Been paying for it for so long. Screw paying $60+ a month for cable that is the same speed but doesn't offer the same capabilities that cellular data does. I rack up over 100gb a month but it's a business account so i doubt they will cut me off.
The fcc does nothing about the internet monopoly in my area because it's not considered a monopoly because wireless internet is considered an option. When verizon charges what they do for internet it clearly isn't an option. We all know verizon can afford to give you more GB's at a lower price.
Most of the infrastructure is already in place and they are paying purely for maintenance at this point. And when they are talking about faster speeds with xlte and lte-a they are expecting you to use more data but have no plans on reducing the cost per gb. Faster speeds means a larger resource pool to tap into. The excuse that heavy udp users are decreasing the speeds for others is basically a thing of the past at this point.
Honestly it's all bs marketing and political manipulation. Tell me why countries in the EU can offer unlimited lte data for 35 euoros a month, which people use as their primary internet source, if this isn't the case?
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Ummm?? "UNLIMITED DATA" Do know what that means? Lol, prompted!!! $$$$
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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Maybe on average.. Some months around 500 and others 100. Feb 17th I say "GOOD<--->BYE" to VZW (they terminate unless I select a plan) after 10 f*$#ing years... not too sure what I'm going to do yet but obviously I cannot afford to stay with VZW..
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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You should send Verizon Customer Service this coherent, well thought out argument...I'm sure they will reconnect your UDP in no time....lol
Wait a second, I am currently experience a minor heart attack! They are CANCELING your UDP?!
I have not received a letter regarding this, is anyone else receiving this letter?
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/09/verizon-unlimited-data-200gb-limit/
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
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I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
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I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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They will regret it, T-Mobiles service, at least here is so spotty its not even worth paying for. When my wife had it she had to use my wifi tethering just to use her phone half the time we went anywhere.
200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
I am sticking with my Verizon UDP for now, but i have also bought my wife a new phone on at&t's DirecTV unlimited plan that's up to 4 devices just incase verizon pulls out more bs. Figured id jump on that and get grandfathered on that also, since in my area at&t is second best if not identical to Verizon's coverage.
Sprint and T-Mobile are out if the question for me, been there done that.
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200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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Oh I feel insulted for you as well. 12GB is not that bad at all. I average 45gb and have not received a letter yet. This whole ordeal is ridiculous. I would rather they implement a cap on the unlimited, like say 100GB or even 40GB and then slow us way down instead of just straight up removing us.