This is my fifth prime bought the first when it was first released and bought and sold a few more since then I picked one up a few days ago for a crazy price i am now running virtuous prime and performance mode at 1.8 ghz and my galaxy note is still much faster with everything i don't understand this, i think the prime is the best 10 inch tablet i guess i just thought it would be faster when overclocked with a custom rom
for starters wrong section, should've been in QnA section. Second, you could've just posted that in one of the many existing complaint threads.
Not complaining just wondering why and how to make the prime faster
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Not complaining just wondering why and how to make the prime faster
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if you running a custom rom and overclocked it should easily run faster than what you claim. you must not of did something right. I'm stock, rooted, and overclocked n my prime runs circles around my Ipad n phone.
try a different rom and make sure its flashed correctly. virtuous is more of a stock base rom built for stability. you want performance, use AOKP or WSG rom or maybe even new gummy one. lots of different roms to try out. even still, virtuous overclocked should be running great.
OK thanks I will try another room btw my note is rooted running rocket rom lpy so it is not not stock, but it is faster then my current set up on my prime but i will take your advice and try another room thanks
Also remember that different chip setups use different speed tweaks. Are you running a third-party launcher? Any monitoring apps? What kind of widgets? What background services are running? I had virtuous with OC and it was great, but I changed to AOKP with OC and is much faster running the same apps.
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This is my fifth prime bought the first when it was first released and bought and sold a few more since then I picked one up a few days ago for a crazy price i am now running virtuous prime and performance mode at 1.8 ghz and my galaxy note is still much faster with everything i don't understand this, i think the prime is the best 10 inch tablet i guess i just thought it would be faster when overclocked with a custom rom
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Im runnin a custom ICS Rom on my Galaxy S2...Its overclocked at 1.5...And its pretty damn close side by side when I bring up stuff...I too am runnin the Gummy on performance 1.8...But its fast enuff for me...
And I just luv the view of a 10.1 compared to my 4.6 screen on the Epic 4 Touch...
why is my honda civic faster than a 18 wheeler? the 18 wheeler has a much larger engine and a lot more power!
The prime easialy outpowers the note however other things have to come into consideration: What kernel / rom is running on both devices, what device specific optimizations have been made for the specific hardware. What different chipsets, GPU's, screen resolutions, animations, versions of android, etc are there?
There are so many problems with this thread i dont even know where to start. As far as tablets go, the prime has the best HARDWARE. This does not mean, by default, the software will run faster. The same way that 18 wheeler has a much larger and more powerfull engine does not mean it will go faster than my honda civic with its 4 cylinder engine.
My suggestion is go on google and do some research on how android actually works. Learn about the hardware you complain about and maybe you might learn your answer for yourself.
Both are running ics 4.0.3. Both are running adw ex launcher and the same apps don't get me wrong the prime is great I am just surprised that my note loads webpages twice as fast on the same wifi network even on demand at 1400 MHz on the note vs 1800mhz performance on the prime - anyway I was just curious no big deal
lol im not surprised, wifi on the tablet sucks. try loading up some graphic intense games and see which has the fastest loading times. Its no secret the primes wifi sucks try a test that compares other things like the GPU or CPU.
And even if both devices have android 4.0.3 unless its stock google 4.0.3 they have been tweaked in one way or another. load AOSP on each and give er another shot.
just loaded up the gummy v1.2.3 and now it is as about as fast as my note on the internet - of course the prime has more power and gpu but i was more concerned with everyday apps like internet, etc. i currently dont play any games on the prime
i think i wil put an aosp rom on the note and see how it compares - thanks to everyone for their advice
btw i picked up this prime to test out the unlocked bootloader / customs roms, it was pretty scratched up when i bought it used but i put on a zagg screen protector and it covers up all the scratches on the screen and then i bought a nice leather case as well not bad for $100 total !!
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Im currently using CM9 latest nightly, but as much as I love AOSP, I never feels as smooth as samsung based roms. Why is that? Kernel? Drivers? Optimizations?
If its kernel, which is (Opinion based) the smoothest available?
thnx
Im looking for the smoothest experience, is there a kernel or any t
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ATM cm9 roms have a bit touch issue, so it feels like its not smooth
But when their wasn't any touch issue then people said its much smoother than stock
once you taste aosp ics you never go back
just wait till it hit stable and samsung rom wont even come close
^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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^^^ Thats how I feel. But im kinda picky, thats why I brought it up. I noticed the touch issue and its part of the issue IMO. But can Exynos drivers/optimizations also be contributing? because stock ICS roms get much better framerate in the GPU tests than CM9 (never mind the overall score) So maybe the CPU isnt being used to its full potential
I flashed a buddys Vibrant with Passion ICS and also noticed that a single core 512mb ram last gen phone felt smoother than my exynos monster. Same goes to the Vivid when i tried one at the ATT store that had the ICS update. When i flipped the homescreen carrusell in Sense, it was like when I first saw a motionflow 120hz TV
Hope things get sorted out because I love AOSP and would never want to go back to the cartoony TW
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most of the fixes like video recording were done in hurry ,noobes flaming etc
now the devs are working on cleaning and optimizing the code now
http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/03/30/cm9-status-for-galaxy-s-ii/
You can try with another ROM, I'm currently in Thebyani 3.7 it uses Siyah v3.0rc1 kernel and Vertumus Theme.
Its really smooth and fast and the look it's very AOSP, no TW bloat.
Truly is ICS better than Gingerbread in real life [on the EVO 3D]? I find myself flashing multiple ICS roms hoping to gain the smoothness of GB but I just can't find it.
I know the features ICS brings are great:
- Chrome support
- Better sleep management
- Better system/data management (cant confirm this)
- 32 bit color by default (cant confirm this)
** http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
But one thing GB has that ICS doesn't is complete capability with our phones. We were able to make GB fly and I feel since Sprint is dragging their feet to release the update, we will have some time before ICS flies like GB. By then Jelly Bean will be running. It's a vicious cycle.
I am all for trying out new software, I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. However, for example, when playing Max Payne on ICS, the joystick would stop responding or the framerate will drop dramatically. That never happened on GB.
So my question is, whats your reason for running ICS on your EVO 3D? It is because its the latest and greatest or is there a certain feature I am missing? Because I am starting not to see a benefit.
**Disclamer: I read a couple of threads related to this but this subject was never expanded on. Mods feel free to close if you think this is redundant.**
I run it because I'm yet to have 1 problem that's not a known ics general issue.
Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
For cdma phones yes, the 2.17 base was an excelent base for GB roms. Us poor GSM users had a crap base which when even overclocked was probably still slower than the current ICS.. for example low 2000 quadrants and 24fps nenamark
I just wish there was a way to use the 2.17 base roms on GSM, I would certainly use it. :good:
ICS runs fine on my phone. And I'm easily getting at least 24 hours per battery, as opposed to 12 hours with GB.
ICS definitely has better battery management. However, for me personally, I don't mind having less battery with more performance since I have multiple batteries I can just swap out. A perfect balance is what I look to achieve. ICS beats GB in terms of battery life but I have to give the best performance title to GB.
Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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There hasn't been an official ICS release? (For CDMA at least). Generally its been a 90 day or so time frame for source release. We should see GSM source in the next couple of months. While HTC isn't the fastest at releasing they haven't ever failed to release source that I'm aware of.
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Again this is for the GSM version, it may not be true for CDMA phones as i doubt you have one to compare...
I myself believe the fact that their phones run worse on ICS then ours because the same thing was happening to us on GB...
I think for me gb gave me problems with youtube....always skipping in the middle. But going to ics has fixed that. Everything is smoother. Battery life to me isn't much of a problem since I have about two extra batteries.
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ICS runs way better than GB did. side by side comparisons of Eternity 1.4.2 vs inbREDed 5.2 verify that for me in an instant.
apps load faster, menus react quicker, etc. I'll never go back to GB and can't wait for an Anthrax kernel for this.
I do wish that the Sense 4 ROM's had 3D and 4G though, because those things run really, really nice.. *sigh*
Interesting feedback, thank you everyone. This is definitely "food for thought".
Whats your feedback on game performance? I usually find myself playing one of the Rockstar or Gameloft games I have purchased and I feel ICS framerates drops much more than GBs.
I feel that since GB's kernel source has been released, devs were able to tweak it for maximum performance under heavy load vs a stock kernel which would be somewhat conservative on performance.
And yes I do have a CDMA version but input from GSM users are welcomed.
Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
I really wish we had a stable build of CM7 for CDMA to play with, htc holding the source on ICS kernels has made the ICS dev basically come to a crawl and it saddens me lol... My old Evo4G had a new ROM out everyday it seemed and IMO CM9 was more stable there than on the 3D. Nothing against the wonderful devs here as it's not their fault htc is being stingy with source.
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
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Many who use cm9 will lol
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Do not compair roms just on benchmarks... ICS is waaaayy better than gb even without overclocking. Solo many more features in ICS made it impossible for me to go back to GB
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I don't actually have an evo, but I've been using an HTC hd2 for a long time, until yesterday.
I was running the latest ics version mostly just to be on the bleeding edge of technology. Their were a few things I really liked more and reasons I wanted to run it because of, but mostly i wanted ics because it was new.
We also had gingerbread roms that were blazing fast and worked almost perfectly. In all honesty they were amazing.
Then ics came along. Many of the drivers were not there for our device and the devs start working like crazy to fix them or write them, just whatever needed to be done.
However even to this day ics does not run as well as gb did. It is very stable, not a lot of fc's but it still has some. In reality its just not yet the same quality gb was.
I think that until HTC releases the kernal source like for the evo and other phones that ics will not run as good as gb. In no way is this in offense to the devs. I just know that its hard to match a companies time and man power when your doing something for free.
In short, unless their is a lot of official support I do not think ics runs as well as gb either.
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I've been playing nova on my htc one x as well as transformer prime, problem is it gets laggy in some areas with full effects chainfire fix (no chainfire means no effects but no lag) however my gs3 plays it fine with chainfire and A 200 quid chinese tablet with dual core rockchip and quad mali400 with chainfire plays it full effects no lag???!!! And to help you understand this the antutu score on chinese tablet is 7560 and all tegra devices are just over 12500 so wtf?! I'm just so annoyed,
All devices running clean rooted ics no mods or tweaks only interactive governor
My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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He isn't a dev.... & well.. I'll end there.
As for Tegra 3 ULP Geforce GPU (with 8 spectacular cores)... it isn't a powerhouse GPU. It lacks raw power compared to Mali 400 (and basically all other GPUs)... however, it does have those "oozing" special effects that Nvidia patented.
Also, with single I/O memory controller... with the lack of bandwidth being channeled through during GRAPHIC intensive games... it can have some "FPS" issues.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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What's to lie about? Nova3 and all other games do play fine on my Nexus 7. The framerate not slow either. Like I said, it plays great on my NEXUS 7. now for Prime, Nova3 seems to like to crash on mines. So as of now, I honestly don't know how it plays on my prime. But I do have it for my Nexus 7. Even with full effects, nexus 7 handles it with ease. Prime has software shortcomings that is likely what you are experiencing. Plus you have to REMEMBER THIS, EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY. SO IF THE NEXT MAN SAYS THE GAME WORKS FINE ON HIS PRIME, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT. IF YOU DONT, PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE YOU EITHER. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES THE SAME AFTER AN UPDATE.
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ASSUMING THAT JUST BECAUSE YOUR DEVICE SEEMS to Run the game slower, everyone else's must also. PEOPLE ASSUME TO DAMN MUCH UP HERE. These devices are not all the same, unfortunately.
I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
Its just like all other Gameloft games, they are not optimized at all to run with QuadCores or Tegra3 devices. Order and Chaos has the same issues, it doesn't have mind blowing effects and still runs at 24ish fps. Hell even Asphalt 6 doesn't feel like running at 60 fps. While other games with far, far better graphics run smooth like butter even when connected to the TV.
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I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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Really? Which one do you have?
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Really? Which one do you have?
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latest Window N101 it also has a chinese name yuanduo n101 or something like that, for 200 bones its a good deal, capacitive multi touch 10 point ips screen, ics 4.0.4. rooted etc. hd screen and plays 720p files smoothly, not tested 1080p it has a dual core rockchip 3066 and quad core mali 400 gpu tablet itself is really nice, i thought the asus would have have performed better than the cheap chinese one, but obviously not in this case, its probably gameloft being lazy and not optimizing for tegra as all tegra games run really smooth even in high activity scenes, large environments, etc.
still peed off thogh
just figured i'd chime in again (because of the controversy,lol)...
i was running androwook 2.1 with motley's lite kernel, o'ced to 1.8
the last time i checked out NOVA3(actually the only time i played it).
i went through a couple of levels and didn't have any issues on my Prime.
lately, i have been running team EOS Jelly Bean, and benchmarks have been down,
even from stock ROM, so i haven't tried to run it lately.
i have been playing Riptide GP tho, and it is still smokin fast!
Since upgrading to JB and updating Dead Trigger, I have only noticed one hiccup right when loading a level, and then no more lag through the rest of the level. Before the update and on ICS the game lagged like crazy for the first 30 seconds then finally cleared up. I'm not sure which one fixed it, but perhaps you should check out the JB rom as well...
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I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
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1. Linux Kernel 3.1.1 vs 2.6.39.4 hardly matters.....
Perhaps you didn't know but Linux Kernel 3+ is really 2.6.40 but Linus Torvald simply renamed it to Linux Kernel 3.0...
The changes between the two kernel is minimal (of course, higher is always better in theory.. but here... it is extremely minimal)
If people want to discuss kernel & drivers..... and need someone to blame for multiple issues we have currently... look towards Nvidia FIRST & Asus 2nd (Asus is customer of Nvidia... and they are binded to their work.. sadly)
2. Tegra 3 SoC... no matter how much.. umm.. someone tells you... IS NOT A POWER SoC. It focuses mainly on battery performance (thus the 4+1 technology)... although.. sadly, it doesn't really perform that well in this category either if you look at smartphone sector (S4 HTC One X > Tegra 3 HTC One X).
Anyways, especially with single I/O memory controller, poor kernel/driver integration by Nvidia & Asus (this is assumption), and not very powerful GPU (yes, in terms of raw power... Tegra 3 is crap compared to other GPUs)..... IT CAN HAVE ISSUES during Graphic Intensive Games. IT CAN... as in... if we take Prime for example.... it behaves very radically from device to device.... thus... some will be unfortunate & some very fortunate.
3. I doubt Google wants Android to be portrayed as "tweaker" device. Google's trying their hardest to appeal to the mass public with Nexus 7..... Btw, all the updates & etc you speak of with Desktop.... going from Ubuntu 10.2 to Ubuntu 11.1 are OFFICIAL support. Custom ROMs are not....
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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Yup they all lag on my N7 and Prime, although there is some hope: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780587 hopefully its true they are working on optimizations for the Tegra 3 platform.
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My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
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Dude that is b.s.No offence.you can't install chainfire3D,hence no full effects.TEGRA 3 DOES NOT GET FULL EFFECTS ON NOVA 3.You don't see fire and smoke on the building at the right side in the first level, before you jump off the building you crashed into.Secondly it does lag very badly especially in multiplayer,I am on 620mhz GPU overclock with 1.6ghz CPU with smoothrom 4.1 android 4.1.2
I don't know about Nova 3, but I have to agree that Wild Blood for example is not smooth at all on my Prime.
Backstab on the other hand seems much smoother.
I'll try Nova 3 and let you know. ( Using Latest Energy Rom).
Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tell ya, I'm happy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
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Ten Quid said:
Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tenotificationappy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
P.S - Forgot my username and email address so had to make a new acount, doh!
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I hear you. The only slowness I am experiencing is the android notification bar. But its getting progressively worse. I disabled all animations and it sped the notification for a little but but now it's slow again. The device is very snappy but the ridiculously slow notification bar swipe is unacceptable. I am waiting for the Note 3 now......
sorry to hear you are having poor performance. Again I've only experienced iit when swyping down on the notification bar.
Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
numbnutsuk said:
Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
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I'm positive that a software update will fix the lags. I feel like Samsung rushed the software for the Mega 6.3 that's why it's not that optimized for the processor.
I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
I also use Nova Launcher and never had any slowdowns. I find my Mega smoother than my Nexus 7 and my original Note on custom ROM.
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I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
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Thanks, I'll have to update it then because right now, whether it's the launcher or ROM it's ruining the experience.
I tried Nova Launcher and it was equally as bad if not worse the Touchwiz, it was still jerky and laggy.
And I agree, the benchmarks for the Snapdragon 400 are great and beat the Exynos 4 alot, but for me personally at the moment in terms of everyday use the Note 2's performance is so much better and smooth. I'd really like to keep the Mega, but unless the performance improves dramatically within a new update then I'll be keeping the Note 2. I'll try a custom ROM and the latest update, fingers crossed.
I experienced the slow notification bar and I was running ADW launcher. I disabled animations and it still was slow. I returned my Mega because of this. It was a total deal breaker.
Yes your right it lags sometimes
But thats why I am waiting CM team hopefully or anyone to build AOKP or CM or AOSP
When it reaches the mega it will be awesome
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I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
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I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
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And maybe CM coming over on the big screen ^^
I don't know exactly why some mega 6.3 owners experienced some significant slowdowns.
Maybe because of the ff:
1. Outdated ROM. Try to install the latest available rom even if its not for your country (XXUAMG4).
2. Stock launcher from samsung. Use Nova launcher or any other payware launcher of your choice.
3. Use Seeder program. I may help speed things up.
4. Flash stock kernel after rooting and stop using vcore2 kernel
5. You may have a faulty slow microSD.
6. Some other apps you have installed maybe affecting your otherwise speedy JB 4.2.2
Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
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Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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Yup you were right depends on the level. First level plays pretty stable. Indoor levels are a disaster. The game is pretty damn optimized if it stays as stable as it does. It is playable on mine, just unpleasant to play, not a dramatic lag. I'm pretty pissed i waited all summer for this game, never released then, and now that it is it requires you to be connected to some sort of internet all the time to play. Groupers depend on wifi, i live in NYC where the best time to play is while on the buses. Buses don't have wifi?!?! How am I to play lol. And my Nexus 7 is mint but the wifi is pretty crappy compared to my girls which has some wear, so here at home even with a good connection i encounter issues playing and the loading also depends on internet believe it or not.
As for roms for the Nexus 7, go with SmoothRom 5.2. Its AOKP based instead of CM. If you've done your homework, AOKP is claimed to be glitchy, but that really doesnt apply to the Nexus 7. And SmoothRom is 99% stable, no crashes, no "Unfortunately BlaBlaBla has stopped working," no fluttering graphical glitches. The 1% instability goes to the fact that at times the stock AOSP browser's Back/Forward/Refresh buttons dissapear. Its stable for daily use. I have it installed on mine and my girls. Only con is that its still stuck on 4.2.2 but the preformance IMO exceeds 4.3 with the tweaks it has.
Kernel-wise, I use M-Kernel to reach the crazy 1.6GHz although I never really clock it that high except when testing preformance differences (it can reach 1.7GHz, the secret is it must be on a single core as NVIDIA points out on their Tegra 3). Franco Kernel gives nice battery life, but theres occasional slowdowns on the entire rom and freezes, at times complete system crashes (not sure if thats only with this rom, i know the latest updates to that kernel suddenly brought that).
So if your looking for a stable, fast, reaponsive rom for the Grouper, think SmoothRom. Kernel is up to you.
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
Sick graphics
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nolimit06 said:
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
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No problem! You wont regret it let me know how it works out! I'm now testing this on the LG Optimus G...wish me luck!
I'm using the Root Browser in Rom Toolbox. I can edit the value in the XML, and it says it's saving, but when I go back in to the file my edit is reverted back to the original.
How can I tell visually if the ultra high graphics are actually enabled?