Well I had two choices last night, exchange my perfect transformer prime (working gps/wifi, no bleeding) in for another one due to averaging 4-5 hours of battery life after .15 on powersaving - or to unlock the bootloader and test to confirm it's not the battery.
I decided the more risky choice to void the warranty because I didn't want to gamble getting a bad unit. Installed CWM, flashed virtuous (.14 version) - battery is performing quite well so far.
Still need to test it a few discharge cycles but it's looking like .15 was a bad egg at this point.
Um, er... Battery life on mine is much better on .15. I can get 10 hours ebook reading, light browsing, etc. 7 hours on heavy browsing, video, etc. The only thing that would take me down to less than 7 hours is heavy gaming (e.g., Shadowgun). And this is all running on Balanced mode with auto brightness.
I haven't heard of poor battery life being a hardware-specific issue (although it's possible, I suppose). But it's also not specific to .15. I'd think that anything that limits to 4-5 hours is either than quite unusual hardware problem or some app or background service that you were running that was causing problems.
There were at least 3 reports that I'm aware of that .15 was a battery killer. My battery life was never amazing (think my tf101 gets better life) but on .15 it was just ridiculous - which lead to speculation that my unit may have a bad battery. As far as apps go - BBS said my browser was killing my battery - but I'm using the same browser on a different rom without as serious of a drain.
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There were at least 3 reports that I'm aware of that .15 was a battery killer. My battery life was never amazing (think my tf101 gets better life) but on .15 it was just ridiculous - which lead to speculation that my unit may have a bad battery. As far as apps go - BBS said my browser was killing my battery - but I'm using the same browser on a different rom without as serious of a drain.
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you have to think about it, that's only 3 reports out of over 320 xda prime owners here. I've got great battery life also with .15. well at least you getting good battery life with virtuous rom. that's all that matters.
.15 fixed all battery drain problems that all people experienced with .14. .14 caused significant battery problems for everyone without exception, and .15 fixed it for everyone, without exception.
If you're having battery problems, it's definitely not related to .15.
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.15 fixed all battery drain problems that all people experienced with .14. .14 caused significant battery problems for everyone without exception, and .15 fixed it for everyone, without exception.
If you're having battery problems, it's definitely not related to .15.
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You're joking, right? I would actually amend my own post to say that it COULD be .15, but likely if there's some app that a person is running that doesn't play well with .15 for some reason. My point was only that I would look hard at running apps and services before concluding either that the hardware is bad or that .15 is NECESSARILY bad, in and of itself.
Doesn't mean, though, that .15 couldn't be interacting with something on this user's machine that previous updates did not...
Why'd you do it, ickkii, why?
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Well I had two choices last night, exchange my perfect transformer prime (working gps/wifi, no bleeding) in for another one due to averaging 4-5 hours of battery life after .15 on powersaving - or to unlock the bootloader and test to confirm it's not the battery.
I decided the more risky choice to void the warranty because I didn't want to gamble getting a bad unit. Installed CWM, flashed virtuous (.14 version) - battery is performing quite well so far.
Still need to test it a few discharge cycles but it's looking like .15 was a bad egg at this point.
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Question. Why void warranty to find out? Why not just root it, and go back to stock .14 Asus official image, using the "replace the blob" process in the dev section? I had some issues with .15 myself - the very first FW update that did not agree with my Prime. Nothing disasterous, but some static lines, and bobbing of the screen a few times, but it blew away the best GPS numbers I had achieved to date (I know, I know, but I am stubbornly hanging onto the dream, LOL!) Anyway, I rolled back to stock 14 and all is well again. Unless you had issues there as well?
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Doesn't mean, though, that .15 couldn't be interacting with something on this user's machine that previous updates did not...
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And that is EXACTLY why we need Asus to provide SOME kind of documentation with these updates, otherwise, it's like we are all walking around in the dark, applying everything they put out there. I can see the logistic issues with changelogs, but really, this method is madness. I commend Asus for providing fixes, but without documentation, they have limited value to people trying to resolve an issue or 3
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Question. Why void warranty to find out? Why not just root it, and go back to stock .14 Asus official image, using the "replace the blob" process in the dev section? I had some issues with .15 myself - the very first FW update that did not agree with my Prime. Nothing disasterous, but some static lines, and bobbing of the screen a few times, but it blew away the best GPS numbers I had achieved to date (I know, I know, but I am stubbornly hanging onto the dream, LOL!) Anyway, I rolled back to stock 14 and all is well again. Unless you had issues there as well?
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that's what I trying to tell him in his other thread instead of going the drastic route. but if its working well for him then so be it. only thing is, flashing that rom wouldn't really tell you what the issue was. that virtuous rom going to get decent battery life anyways because its optimized, Zip aligned, and stripped of some stock apps.
I'm so tempted to try out Virtuous rom. all I here is good things about it. plus it has 1.6Ghz overclock built into Asus quick settings.
Kudos I guess? lol I'm having to resist that damn Unlock apk like crazy
I'm hitting on the second day on .15 with my dock At this moment the dock is at 17% and the tablet at 74%. Battery statistics are jacked up thanks to the dock so I can't provide a screenshot of my time off the charger
Hope ASUS or Virtuous and the like will somehow fix that so we can get an accurate look at our batteries even with the dock.
I have noticed though, that .14 was loving 102 MHz and .15 loves to sit at 475 MHz. Seems they put the same idea of a fix for .15 vs .14 as they did .13 vs .11, they're just leaving the lower states actually intact. I mean, they're being used, just not as much as they were.
Only problem I had with battery life was on .13 - .14 and .15 have been back to normal on my C1, no issues here...
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Question. Why void warranty to find out? Why not just root it, and go back to stock .14 Asus official image, using the "replace the blob" process in the dev section? I had some issues with .15 myself - the very first FW update that did not agree with my Prime. Nothing disasterous, but some static lines, and bobbing of the screen a few times, but it blew away the best GPS numbers I had achieved to date (I know, I know, but I am stubbornly hanging onto the dream, LOL!) Anyway, I rolled back to stock 14 and all is well again. Unless you had issues there as well?
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And that is EXACTLY why we need Asus to provide SOME kind of documentation with these updates, otherwise, it's like we are all walking around in the dark, applying everything they put out there. I can see the logistic issues with changelogs, but really, this method is madness. I commend Asus for providing fixes, but without documentation, they have limited value to people trying to resolve an issue or 3
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because i didn't feel comfortable with the brick rate. I still have 30 day exchange with gamestop anyway... I doubt they boot their exchanged units into recovery to check if the bootloader is unlocked - and even if they do, I'm exchanging it through gamestop's rules - not necessarily asus's.
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Kudos I guess? lol I'm having to resist that damn Unlock apk like crazy
I'm hitting on the second day on .15 with my dock At this moment the dock is at 17% and the tablet at 74%. Battery statistics are jacked up thanks to the dock so I can't provide a screenshot of my time off the charger
Hope ASUS or Virtuous and the like will somehow fix that so we can get an accurate look at our batteries even with the dock.
I have noticed though, that .14 was loving 102 MHz and .15 loves to sit at 475 MHz. Seems they put the same idea of a fix for .15 vs .14 as they did .13 vs .11, they're just leaving the lower states actually intact. I mean, they're being used, just not as much as they were.
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Do you think a tool similar to setcpu would work on tegra 3 to lower the minimal cpu speed? Perhaps that could be the problem. In sleep my unit purrs, but I'm thinking the tegra 3 could also be running too high on average for remedial processes, kind of like you said.
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Do you think a tool similar to setcpu would work on tegra 3 to lower the minimal cpu speed? Perhaps that could be the problem. In sleep my unit purrs, but I'm thinking the tegra 3 could also be running too high on average for remedial processes, kind of like you said.
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Yes and no. Others seem to successfully be using it.
Whenever I use my SetCPU I'm greeted with random reboots, especially if I use profiles to try and underclock.
You might could use ViperControl or the other in the dev section to at least manually set it through terminal emulator to run some tests as to whether or not that is your issue.
But the higher CPU states are definitely what were killing my battery on .13 and now .15 (although it's not nearly as bad... for me... but it did provide me with my first random reboot caused by the system).
I've used both SetCPU and Vipercontrol since picking up my TFP, and not once under any firmware so far have I had any random reboots.. AT ALL. Everything works fine.
Did you ever try a factory reset and run it stock for a day or two to see if it went away? It's an easy way to rule out an app causing it.
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Did you ever try a factory reset and run it stock for a day or two to see if it went away? It's an easy way to rule out an app causing it.
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I had it stock for 5 or 6 hours last night and it was still .15 and the battery usage didn't seem to improve.
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I had it stock for 5 or 6 hours last night and it was still .15 and the battery usage didn't seem to improve.
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That's quite odd as I have great battery on same firmware. Don't know what to tell you man.
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Yes and no. Others seem to successfully be using it.
Whenever I use my SetCPU I'm greeted with random reboots, especially if I use profiles to try and underclock.
You might could use ViperControl or the other in the dev section to at least manually set it through terminal emulator to run some tests as to whether or not that is your issue.
But the higher CPU states are definitely what were killing my battery on .13 and now .15 (although it's not nearly as bad... for me... but it did provide me with my first random reboot caused by the system).
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I think I may need to undervolt my tablet.
Oh absolutely. After undervolting, my phone went from 1 to 3 days use.
What am I looking at here though, what's that app? Just another way of looking at the percentages spent at each state huh?
That's a solid amount at the 1.2 GHz there. I only show that kind of usage if I forget and leave Shadowgun or GTA III running while I take one of my strolls around town. Even spending an hour and a half on Skype last night, the majority of my time was spent around 880 MHz.
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What am I looking at here though, what's that app? Just another way of looking at the percentages spent at each state huh?
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It's setcpu, info, time in state. thought you said it caused reboots for you. Are you using an old version
I went back a few pages and didn't see any specific topics on this. I've got a C1 prime and have had no issues with it until .15. Ever since I loaded the .15 update the Wifi speed had been atrocious. Is anyone else experiencing this or know of a fix? Is there a way I can roll my prime back to the previous build?
Yes. I had .11 since 2 days ago. Wifi Speed wasnt that good but better then in .15 and the reception of the Wifi was better in .11 then in .15
since i have .15 i cant receive Wifi in one of my rooms where i get reception with .11
So .15 didnt make Wifi better for me but worse.
went from bad to worst for me too
My wifi connection seems about the same as with any previous firmwares. But i'm looking forward to an update anyway... Hope they update the apps and overall stability (browser, task manager)^^
I haven't noticed any reception changes myself but my house isn't that large. Same rooms & same activities as before .15. I don't have before and after speed tests, but I have relatively small files I regularly pull off my local network (< 100MB) that would normally take seconds to acquire are now taking several minutes. Page loads are exceptionally slow and forget about watching anything on Youtube now.
I know my local network is fine. All of the other devices on my network (wired and wireless) are all performing normally.
Is there a way to see what was actually changed in .15. I'm hoping it's a config change(i.e. build.prop) that got altered that we can just set back to the .14 settings?
Same thing for me. WiFi was never perfect, but it's actually gotten slower with this last update.
I documented this is the 1.5 thread, but wifi speeds went up 18x with .15.
I was getting 1 meg down prior, but with .15 I was able to maxe out my home bandwidth at 18 megs.
I was pretty amazed.
For me the reception is much worse than before. The speeds are as bad as before !
I cant get over 30mbit even i have a 100mbit connection and router but i think thats router setting.
Is there a way to just flash a wifi an older wifi version?
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For me the reception is much worse than before. The speeds are as bad as before !
I cant get over 30mbit even i have a 100mbit connection and router but i think thats router setting.
Is there a way to just flash a wifi an older wifi version?
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Lol, you're getting 30mbit? Thats great!
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Lol, you're getting 30mbit? Thats great!
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LoL well only when im next to the Router :// Yea its not bad but sitting next to router i can use the PC^^
when i go to my sleeping room which is around 10 feet away i get only around 3Mbit and that Sux. With .11 it was better.
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I went back a few pages and didn't see any specific topics on this. I've got a C1 prime and have had no issues with it until .15. Ever since I loaded the .15 update the Wifi speed had been atrocious. Is anyone else experiencing this or know of a fix? Is there a way I can roll my prime back to the previous build?
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yes. my wifi is much worst. Thought it was just me. With .15 I can"t watch Youtube without constant buffering and I can hardy pickup my wifi at work. Previously, wifi was fine. I have the first models received in Dec. BCOKAS
Im not 20ft away from the router ( i can see it lol) and i'm getting one or two bars of wifi signal. 15mbps 20 ft away, 30mbps 3 feet away.
My ipod gets better reception, and it too has a metal back. I feel raped.
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Same here, .15 fixed the battery issues, but the BT and wifi really bad now!
I bt tether to razr phone and it's useless now. The wifi will not work with bt stereo device connected, which is one if the original ICS issues ... DOH ... boomerang bugs
I was sooo happy when the .15 update smoothed out so many issues, now I'm truly frustrated, you cannot screw with wifi on a non-wwan device. Now I have a $500 digital camera without zoom
I heard rumors of a hardware solution in the works, I hope so...
So roll it back then.
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I went back a few pages and didn't see any specific topics on this. I've got a C1 prime and have had no issues with it until .15. Ever since I loaded the .15 update the Wifi speed had been atrocious. Is anyone else experiencing this or know of a fix? Is there a way I can roll my prime back to the previous build?
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Guys - if .15 is that bad - roll back to .14 or whatever version gave your Prime the best overall performance. - I realize this is not an option for everyone, particularly those who had to overcome rebooting issues, but until ASUS decides to inculde a changelog, fixlist or ANY DOCUMENTATION AT ALL WITH THESE UPDATES - its the best we can do.
I know there is always variance in the field, but the differences between MOST customer units with Primes has just been awful - One guy get a fix, 3 guys get a new bug. GPS gets better, no wait, now its worse, - like the earlier post said: Boomerang BUGS!!!
At first I was impressed with Asus rushing out these updates. Until I realized that thats exactly what they are doing... RUSHING out updates without enough testing. .15 was tested, as far as I can tell from the thread, by XDA users for under 1 week, and ASUS pushed it to everyone.
That was when I pulled the reigns... ENOUGH! - I had a slew of issues with .15, the ONLY update that caused me ANY issues. Every other update had been fine. .15 had me witnessing screen static, bouncing bottom bar, and my best GPS to date that I had on .14was GONE with .15 - Not a single satellite view even outdoors, whereas I had 13 locks one day on .14 after someone commented how good their GPS was. Of course I couldn't maintain a lock, but it was the best to that point.
Anyway, if things have gone downhill or backwards after an update, use this method to roll back. ****, I don't even root since there is no driving need for it at this point, and I am NOT unlocking my remaining 10 months of warranty. I rooted to roll back, then let the root get lost on the flash to .14 - I am happy again. I just wish I knew how to blow away the .15 that's sitting in my notifications, waiting for me to accidentally hit it ,LOL
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Hey guys! This is my first post on XDA, though I've been using it for quite a while.
I'm not exactly looking for answers/solutions, but rather sharing my problem and see if someone else is having them too.
I have a Latin American version of the I91000 (TTT). I recently upgraded to ICS using the official firmware from Samfirmware (UHLPE). At first everything looked great. The performance improvement was noticeable from the first bootup. Not only was it faster, but the intro video was far smoother and looked nicer. The general UI changes are very nice, and I did notice an improvement in battery life.
However, I've been experiencing a couple of glaring issues that really mared the experience enough to make me want to go back to Gingerbread, which I will probably do.
These are the problems:
1. The mobile data connection is very unstable. Sometimes it just doesn't load anything, and sometimes I lose the signal altogether. The 3G/H/H+ icon disappears and all. I never had this problem in GB during the 6 months I've had this phone.
2. The Bluetooth audio connection also has problems. It's now more unstable and susceptible to interference, and the lag is also much more noticeable now. It was about .5 seconds before, but now it's more than a full second.
But that's not the worst issue. The media remote control functions just stopped working altogether, namely, the |<< , >>| , >/|| buttons on my headset. I have a Nokia BH505 Bluetooth headset, and I didn't have any of these problems before either.
So that's it. I would like to know if someone else is experiencing one or both of these issues. I'll also check the Samfirmware forums to look for replies on the matter. Thank you for your feedback.
Hi Guys!
I updated my Droid Razr to the official ICS update 2 days ago. Since then, I have encountered the following problems:
1 - Signal strength meter is still not reporting truth metered strength (I thought they would have this fixed by now since it's been a problem from day one)
2 - My 3G/4G is all most non-existent in areas where it was formerly VERY strong
3 - Battery life seems to drain faster (I guess since you can switch to 3G only like before with a 3rd party app)
My question is, what the heck is Google/Motorola/Verizon doing? It's not like they didn't have other phones/development to "take notes" from before releasing this to the masses. I'm one of 613 users in the NC area that is having the same set of problems. Anyone know when a fix will happen?
My next question, now that I'm back on the previous software, I'm considering using one of the leaks (so I can at least control what radio is installed and such), but I want to make sure I can revert to the previous software if I experience the same problems again. Any suggestions?
That's it. Thanks for all the great work you guys do! We users really appreciate it!
I had a major problem with battery life on gsm ics but it seemed to vanish after a week or so use, like the battery takes a while to condition itself or something. Now it's comparable to gb.
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