So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
Zori said:
So I came across this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAs3ZiPQl-U&feature=youtu.be&t=21m49s
It shows the sgs3 playing a video and running shadowgun at the same time seemingly flawlessly. I've always been pro-HTC, I went from the Touch Pro to the Evo and now I plan to get the EVO LTE. But despite my fanboyism, I have realized that HTC products usually don't perform as well as their samsung rivals in real world usage despite what the numbers and processors should theoretically be doing. I figured the Evo LTE and just about any high-end phone released in the past year can run everything on the market, who cares? Then I see something like this and it blows my mind. I'm almost tempted to jump ship.. but we'll see. What are your thoughts?
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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It's a new feature of the sgs3. It's a cool, novel feature I suppose. Maybe if you're playing a game and wanna watch a video of someone else doing it or something. But I'm more impressed with how well it did it all at once!
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thats neat how did he play the video on top of the game, ???
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click the link and you'll see. lol
thats honestly kinda cool there...not sure how often id use it but it brings PIP back in play but now on mobile phones.....though I hate TouchWiz with a passion so no way im going that route...
whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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Agreed. At least for mobile phones... Could have some usage on tablets like taking a timed class and watching a video to pass the time.
The 24nm Krait S4 Snapdragon is a very capable chip. It should have no problems doing what you're video is doing or even running 2 HD movies simultaneously while running background tasks all simultaneously even on a screen as demanding as the new Evo's.
Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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Samsung has done alot on the software side of things ..to me its more of a wow factor than something that I would ever use. If your in a store and stuck between two phones ..they show a gs3 doing pip and your sold ..not for me ..a cool but useless feature as well as the s talk or whatever it is ..I just don't imagine using it ..its a good phone tho ..you don't have to iuse those features ..to me the new evo is more desirable..and I believe the s4 is 28nm
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You sir are correct, apologies for the typo. The Krait s4 snapdragons are indeed 28nm.
I have no doubt the EVO 4G LTE could do this, and probably the galaxy s2 as well. What I really don't know is why you would need or want to do this other than to showoff.
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whats the real worl application for that function. i think its a pointless feature
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You could write notes, respond to a text, make an appointment, send an email, etc, without having to pause and back out of the video you are watching.
I think its far from pointless. People seem to assign the words "pointless" "useless" and "gimmick" to any feature that doesn't fit their personal lifestyle. Keep an open mind
Samsung says this is something new and groundbreaking that just came out with. BS!!! There is already an app in the Play Store that can do this on the phone in your hand right now. Check out app developers MBFG, I believe they may even be a XDA member. They have an app called OverSkreen that allows you to have a webpage on top of any other screen on your device. I use OverSkreen on my tablet and love it! They have another app that plays videos on top of any other screen just like the Galaxy S3, it's called Stick It! (and yes the "!" is part of the app's name, lol). Check it out. Funny Samsung lies saying how they created the idea an that the GS3 is the only phone that can do this, when in fact any Android phone with the app Stick It!! can do it!!!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.stickit
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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The PIP function on the SG3 is not new. There is an app in the market called stick it, for $1.49 that does the same thing. I bought it a couple weeks ago, and it works very well, even though honestly, there isnt really any practical use for it. Many of the software tweaks that samsung is bui8ldin ginto the SG3 are impressive, but not original. You can duplicate just about every functionality they bragged about at the announcement with apps found in the market, or on custom roms readily available for most phones. Ultimately, because the US version will not have the quad core processor, and because i have always found samsung phones to feel cheap in my hand, im going with HTC, whose build quality is usually very good. Oh yeah, that and the pen tile screen on the SG3.... thats a deal breaker for me too
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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Check out my post above the one you quoted. I mentioned that app as well, but commenting because you should also try out the web browser I aso mentioned. It's by the same dev as the floating video app. OverSkreen is the browsers name and it's awesome!!
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Back to the topic at hand...
Theoretically, probably. In reality, probably not, if the EVO LTE has the multitasking issue that the ONE X has, which it probably will as HTC customized the multitasking to be so aggressive/ineffective. Really bummed about this. I hope all this is not the case. Show me wrong, HTC.
This concerns me.
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Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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PsiPhiDan said:
Regardless of HTC botching the multi-tasking of Android, our EVOs will still be able to do this easily. Did you forget what website you're on??
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After custom rom kernel whatevers, sure. Out of the box, might not be able to. Dunno yet
I can Skype and surf the web!
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What an awesome app. Thanks for that!
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my first thanks! welcome!
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I'm a huge fan of illusion labs games for the iPhone and I was dissopointed to learn there were no games like TouchGrind or Sway for android, so I emailed illusion labs to see if they had any plans to port these games or something similar to android. This is the response I received:
Hello,
I'm glad you like our games. We have no plans at the moment to port those games to android at the moment. One of the reasons is that the performance is much lower on Android.
Best Regards
Marcus
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Low performance seems like a lame excuse to me coming from an owner of a beastly Samsung Vibrant. Also, my iPhone 3G under-performs most android phones by a long shot and plays these games perfectly fine. I think performance is a poor excuse with some of the top selling android devices having GPU's capable of pushing more pixels then the iPhone, like the Galaxy S line.
I think illusion labs is seriously underestimating android and the demand for high quality android games on the platform. My proposal? Show them there is damand! Download labyrinth (illusion labs only android port) rate it and leave comments demanding they port the other games! And email illusion labs at: [email protected]
Tell them how badly android needs quality games and how perfectly capable android is at games.
Some screenshots of what we are missing out on.
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Low performance? lol
I did my part. Sent an email. Please do the same and keep it civil.
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I did my part. Sent an email. Please do the same and keep it civil.
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Same Here.
"If Gameloft can do it, you can too."
Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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You don't need to move on to WinMo7, I'm sure you and Illusion Labs are un-aware of the new Hardware requirement list of Gingerbread and the new Gaming API introduced with it for high-end 3D Games. Since this is now going to be a standard requirement for all Android phones, the gaming scenario is soon going to change and be at par or exceeding to that of iOS 4 platform.
gatesmarch123 said:
Hardware fragmentation is going to be a major issue with Android for gaming. Look what happened with angry birds. They have to develop a light edition for low and mid range phones. When there is no hardware standard this is bound to happen. Sadly I may end up buying a win7 phone in place of my vibrant because of this one problem....which sucks balls. I like good games...not tile puzzles, bejeweled knockoffs and the like. What is the benefit of having the fastest gpu on the market when there's sh*t for games....other than Gameloft.
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They don't have to make games compatible with every android device. Newer idevice games don't work on older idevices, yet there are still 10's of millions of older iwhatevers in use. Android game devs could just target newer devices the same way. Fragmentation is a lame excuse.
I read an interview with John Carmack the other day and he said the lack of commitment to android was mainly do to market issues. Limited download size plus lack of built-in DRM means a lot of back end work. Building and supporting a drm system and servers to deliver the games. Not fun stuff. Makes more sence then fragmentation and hardware limits. Hopefully gingerbread fixes this.
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They don't have to make games compatible with every android device. Newer idevice games don't work on older idevices, yet there are still 10's of millions of older iwhatevers in use. Android game devs could just target newer devices the same way. Fragmentation is a lame excuse.
I read an interview with John Carmack the other day and he said the lack of commitment to android was mainly do to market issues. Limited download size plus lack of built-in DRM means a lot of back end work. Building and supporting a drm system and servers to deliver the games. Not fun stuff. Makes more sence then fragmentation and hardware limits. Hopefully gingerbread fixes this.
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Well said, I think looking at Market 2.2.6 and its later upgrades this will be resolved. Google is moving really fast on everything "ITS HIGH TIME".
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Well said, I think looking at Market 2.2.6 and its later upgrades this will be resolved. Google is moving really fast on everything "ITS HIGH TIME".
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Yeah Google is really good. Unfortunately the goodness of Google is useless because of T-mobile/Samsung.
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Yeah Google is really good. Unfortunately the goodness of Google is useless because of T-mobile/Samsung.
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Yea it seems HTC has lost its flare against the awesomeness of Samsung.
I got a reply to the email I sent and thought I should share it here.
Let me explain a bit further what I meant in the mail on the forum.
First of all I think the title of the thread is a bit misguiding. All I wrote in the mail was that we have no plans at moment for those two games. That doesn't mean that we don't have other plans for Android.
The comment on performance may have been a bit short formulated on my part. I know that there are many high performance Android devices that can run any high performance game. But there is also a lot of low end phones that have less performance. The problem is that we can't single out one group and have to release our games on all devices. We always try to get our games to run smooth on all devices they are intended for.
I hope my answer was helpful.
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Very simple, they make games for the high end and low end just like other developers. That is their loss if they choose not to.
Well, the new / upgraded iPhone has been announced. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't wait for the iPhone 4S and went with the unlocked SGS II. I can't believe they didn't upgrade the screen size!
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I was waiting for someone to post this.......
SGSII win!!
What a huge let down, samsung is releasing tons of sgs2 varients(att/tmo/sprint/intl/lte/hd lte/note/prime) while apple simply upgrades the soc and camera after all this time and says its new and magical.
Screen size
Micro SDXC 64GB+
MKV + others
drag n drop media/files
Better Customization
This is what's lacking for me to even consider changing sgs 2
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All hail s2
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No offence to the OP but YET ANOTHER damn iPhone thread on XDA there must be at least 10 already doing the rounds on the various forums
In a nutshell as ive already said i will never purchase anything Apple related regardless of the specs while they are "closed" and not open source.
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just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
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just been reading the article on MSN news about the the release and it has a 'APPARENTLY' new feature called the siri double tapping the home button and you can him/her whatever that is,a question... a simpler version was already implemented into sgs2 (vingo) and with all the sueing battles going on between apple and samsung....shouldnt samsung sue apple for this
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
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LOL true
in fact we had it since Galaxy S 1
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they just introduced the microphone button on keyboard LMFAO
they are no where near samsung
And they took the Android's roller blind notification.
Apple we're great for kicking the arse of the smartphone back in 2007, but they have fallen behind. Quite disapointing really. If they don't come up with something more "Magical" next year, they might become the new Nokia?
In graphic department the iPhone 4S wins even at a higher resolution (iPad for instance beats all other smartphone and tablets even if they have lower resolution).
Second it wins by more apps also iOS5 is pretty cool although it copied some Android features I guess. But they made it look more sexier, like the notification and widgets look alot better on iOS.
But the downside would probably be it being down clocked to either 700-800mhz since the iPad 2 is at 900Mhz.
But Samsung Galaxy S2 wins everything else
I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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Lol siri was free on thr app store and now that apple bought siri its been removed from the app store and its treating it as a exlcusive selling piont.. Typical apple making u pay for something that was free and making you believe its revolutionary.. The galaxy s 2 had voice input since day one.. That site is wrong because i can tap my phone and it will do wat ever i tel it to, wether thats writing a message or navigating me to a certain place i tell it to and it does it well
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I was waiting for someone to post this.......
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Snap me too lol
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I was very close to buying a iphone 4. Thank god i went for the sgs 2. What a beast of a machine.
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I was on that boat too SG2 for president!!!!
pr0n. can close the topic now. jk
Hmmm…..
Again some people bash out against Iphone and say hallelujah to the SG2. I don’t, to neither side.
But my personal view is that Apple has created a product that attracts tens of millions of people. And I believe that the majority of the buyers of the Iphone just want a telephone simple in use, and to show to the outside world that they are trendy.
Not everyone phone users are interested in flashing and tweaking, like us reading XDA. If people want to by a quite expensive Iphone, let them do so. I have been doing it and maybe I will do it again someday, but not the 4S.
Right now there is two SG2 and one TAB 10.1 in our family. And I’m not impressed by the build quality of none of them. On the SG2’s, random boots, loose home button. And the TAB with Newtons rings that has to be put in the freezer for 5-10 minutes, as a temporary fix. Never have I been using the freezer for anything other than food and ice cubes, before now.
Well, they have been sent for repair today, and I hope the TAB shelf in the freezer can be used for other things when I get it back.
So why did I buy Samsung you ask? Well, I bought these units within 45 days and I didn’t know it would be so many problems with 3/ 3 Samsung products. But I give Samsung a chance and hope they will be okay when I get them back.
Some years ago, in a social event, I met the national sales director of a Japanese car company. After a few drinks he started bashing out on the quality of the cars on his biggest competitors.
One other person asked this sales director if he regularly test drive these competitors’ cars? The sales director hesitated a few seconds before he answered ‘Yes of course!’ . But no one believed his answer, and I think almost everyone present didn’t feel he was credible.
And neither do I, when people are bashing out on products that never have been in their hands.
Love my sgs2 but it appears graphics wise the 4gs will trump the s2, based off how well the ipad 2 performs. Not something I care about that much because I don't use it for games or graphic intensive operations, but I know some people on here will secretively wish for that kind of performance.
If those battery stats are right it looks like it will trump the s2 in that department.
Although I wouldn't personally own an iphone, mainly due to the hype being over the top, anyone denying this will challenge or beat the s2 in a few departments is in plainn denial.
A lot of iphone users had already bought the thing before knowing what the specs were... Mmmm no comment. Mind you I'm sure there are some samsung users out there that would do the same
Hmm that's pretty boring because actually nothing changed (for my kind of user at least) : iOS is still the best platform for games and ease of use, Android is still the best platform in terms of actual choice of the hardware and freedom of use. An iPhone will work the exact same way with a dual core processor, the only thing that may change is the quality of the games, which i do not care about since i don't care about gaming on a phone in general.
It's also kind of interesting to see this pathetic attempt of Apple at convincing iFans that they don't need a bigger screen, good luck with that...no wonder Apple shares dropped by a nice 4% just a couple minutes after the 4s was revealed
Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
Personally, I am waiting for the t700 that is due in June. The wifi issue did it for me. All fixed in the t700 plus the hd screen will be nice.
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Personally, I am waiting for the t700 that is due in June. The wifi issue did it for me. All fixed in the t700 plus the hd screen will be nice.
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Well, people like you tend to wait a year or 6 month's for devices.. To me waiting 3 1/2 month's because something better is coming is pointless.
I Need a tablet NOW. My question is since the Prime's hardware is obviously superior to anything on the market is it worth purchasing even so many other issues.
I said I don't use GPS or Bluetooth on a Tab bc. it seems that alongside not-so-strong WiFi are the only problems.. O and the Serial # problems, light-bleed ... Am I missing nething? I am only asking as i'm purchasing my Prime in less than an hour from Staples..
Kolja Dunhamm (CM-developer) seems to have concluded that Tegra 3, which the prime is based on, is junk. Just like Tegra 2.
There's a few much better chipsets out there already and even better ones coming soon. Unless you want something now, I'm sure you will be able to get something much more worthwhile in not too much time.
If it will have the awesome keyboard dock built into the design from day-one, however, is hard to tell or predict. If a integrated keyboard dock is more important than processing power, the prime might be worth it.
Otherwise I say wait it out. See what else is coming.
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Kolja Dunhamm (CM-developer) seems to have concluded that Tegra 3, which the prime is based on, is junk. Just like Tegra 2.
There's a few much better chipsets out there already and even better ones coming soon. Unless you want something now, I'm sure you will be able to get something much more worthwhile in not too much time.
If it will have the awesome keyboard dock built into the design from day-one, however, is hard to tell or predict. If a integrated keyboard dock is more important than processing power, the prime might be worth it.
Otherwise I say wait it out. See what else is coming.
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Tegra 3 is junk? Link..?
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Well, people like you tend to wait a year or 6 month's for devices.. To me waiting 3 1/2 month's because something better is coming is pointless.
I Need a tablet NOW. My question is since the Prime's hardware is obviously superior to anything on the market is it worth purchasing even so many other issues.
I said I don't use GPS or Bluetooth on a Tab bc. it seems that alongside not-so-strong WiFi are the only problems.. O and the Serial # problems, light-bleed ... Am I missing nething? I am only asking as i'm purchasing my Prime in less than an hour from Staples..
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If your buying it anyway why are you asking if its worth it? If you want people on a forum to help you feel better about buying something then go ahead and buy it. You have the official blessing. But if you wanna be smart and you have to have a tablet now then get something a lot cheaper and wait for much better devices coming in the next few months for the same money.
I returned my Prime last month, and bought the 32GB original TF101. I saved $100, and everything on it works like it should. Although it doesn't have the raw processor power of the Prime, my WiFi range is about 33% better than it was on the Prime, which is more important to me anyway.
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But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here.
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What problems does Prime have with rooting?
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Tegra 3 is junk? Link..?
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Link:
https://plus.google.com/109560348209955703361/posts/hRmjKcP7MJj
You better click that link, because it took me one hours getting it here. From the G+ app. One hour. I'm not kidding. That one link = one hour of work.
Because the Google+ Android app has no way of sharing outside the G+ app (leaving no way to draw new users), no way of sharing with the Android mechanisms.
And the mobile web-pages you are forced onto does not work if you have more than one Google account on your phone. I can't have normal webpages pages? My phone has better resolution than most laptops sold these days?
And then when you enter the laptop Google doesn't find the page your are searching for because evidently Goolge started sucking on search and can't even search its own ****ing social network.
Absolutely pathetic. Absolute garbage.
But there you have it. A link. Clickable. It should work. Even on Android, it might even lead you to the G+ app itself. Where you again will be able to share it with noone outside the world of G+.
These are amazing times we live in.
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He probably means for ease of RMA, warrenty, etc. I haven't kept up with the latest since getting root keeper but the root situation ain't to terrible. All that is really missing is nvflash.
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Obviously it's the most "powerful" in terms of pure processing power and GPU as far as Android tablets go. But is the problems worth not buying? I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here. My question is if I leave it stock would I have some stupid issue's? I dont use bluetooth or GPS on a tablet so..
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If I have to unroot everytime there's a fw upgrade, it's not worth the bother. Android OS will continue to evolve so development will have to constantly catch up. I've had enough of the Prime, my next tab will have 1900x1200 res and Jelly Beans.
Well i got mine because someone mislabled it and put a $399 sticker on it XD so ya totally worth it for me.
At the price tag of $500.... the galaxy tab was about that when it first came out. The first transformer was close to that when it first came out as well... hell up to a few months ago it was STILL $500 in most stores, granted that was bundled with the dock.
In all, for what you get its a steep price but a cutting edge tablet. Sometimes the cutting edge cuts you tho, in the case of GPS and wifi. in 6 more months there will be a dozen tablets with the tegra 3, and by christmas there will be the tegra 4 or whatever comes next. theres always something bigger down the road.
The way i look at it: If you want a tablet you are going to push to the max get the prime. If you want a good tablet that has the problems mostly worked out, get the TF101 on clearance (at least in my area) for like, $300? Really it boils down to how much are you going to use it, what are you using it for, what are you willing to pay for it, and how soon do you need it. With all electronics, it pretty much doubles every six months. Quad core tablets now, watch us have a 8 core tablet by christmas XD
TLDR: This tablet does everything i want it to do, and more. amazingly fast for games, pictures, great for watching movies (tho not wirelessly), overall im happy with it and the price i paid. YMMV.
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I returned my Prime last month, and bought the 32GB original TF101. I saved $100, and everything on it works like it should. Although it doesn't have the raw processor power of the Prime, my WiFi range is about 33% better than it was on the Prime, which is more important to me anyway.
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He probably means for ease of RMA, warrenty, etc. I haven't kept up with the latest since getting root keeper but the root situation ain't to terrible. All that is really missing is nvflash.
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Never heard of someone getting their warranty denied due to rooting. I know it's in Asus's rules but I have enough experience to know that rules like that aren't always strictly enforced.
So what's the problem with rooting on Prime again?
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I will not be rooting the device as way to many problems I see on here
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Many problems?
Definitely worth it.
)Bought the prime yesterday.
It's really hard to explain the feeling when holding this device.
Asus gave a new meaning to the word "premium".
This device is absolutely amazing in all ways. Build quality is of the best I've encountered, screen is amazingly bright.
Speed, well it's tegra 3. Mulitasking is super smooth and just a pleasure with ics.
The keyboard dock, although being small, is very well made. I can type on it perfectly. The dock can also power an external hdd.
Gaming is awesome (tegra 3, duh).
Camera is nice, although not super necessary on tablets except for the front facing. Video quality is very nice.
Dont know about battery life yet. Ive only had it for a day.
I sold my ipad (and divorced apple thank god) and got this. I waited to see what would be the new king after MWC, but it seems that the TFP kept the crown for now.
All in all IMO this is the best value you can get for your money right now.
Truly amazing tablet.
For what it is worth, I read that quick thread in google+ and really put zero weight by what that guy said.....
OMAP5 wont be on the market in users hands for a year (!) and S4 devices wont be in customers hands until Q2/Q3 this year. So Tegra 3 is really compared to Exynos and S3 and OMAP4 which it does great against......and is the best chipset for the first 4-6 months of its life....
The chipset on Tegra3 is not a disappointment to me....it does everything you need and more. If you live to benchmark your tablet then wait...otherwise Tegra3 is fine
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For what it is worth, I read that quick thread in google+ and really put zero weight by what that guy said.....
OMAP5 wont be on the market in users hands for a year (!) and S4 devices wont be in customers hands until Q2/Q3 this year. So Tegra 3 is really compared to Exynos and S3 and OMAP4 which it does great against......and is the best chipset for the first 4-6 months of its life....
The chipset on Tegra3 is not a disappointment to me....it does everything you need and more. If you live to benchmark your tablet then wait...otherwise Tegra3 is fine
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There will always come things that better in the near future. Thats how this world works. If u always wait for the best thing u'll end up getting nothing!
tedr44 said:
If I have to unroot everytime there's a fw upgrade, it's not worth the bother. Android OS will continue to evolve so development will have to constantly catch up. I've had enough of the Prime, my next tab will have 1900x1200 res and Jelly Beans.
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Uhh... You don't have to unroot every time there's an update. The updates do remove root, but Voodoo OTA RootKeeper can just bring it right back if you made a su backup with it. Simple.
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I actually got mine off of ebay, Thursday and i haven't wanted to put it down yet. My wifi might not be full bars but i cant tell from the speed of the pages loading. I've tried ebooks, audiobooks, music, videos and games on here and haven't been disappointed yet.
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Uhh... You don't have to unroot every time there's an update. The updates do remove root, but Voodoo OTA RootKeeper can just bring it right back if you made a su backup with it. Simple.
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Also most developers will incorporate the updates in their roms so as to not break root.
Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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Watch the videos here for some good reasons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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but i hope that the SGSIII wont have these "On Screen Buttons" :/ i hate them somehow - i wanna get a feedback when i push a button and not just a vibration
You'd be happier without Android.
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If your okay with Apple's limitations and price point then the iPhone isn't a bad choice. What limitations you ask?
-Non-removable battery
-Non upgradable memory
-Proprietary charging cable (not a con if you already own some)
-Can't sideload apps without jailbreaking
-Device choice
-Custom launchers, keyboards, widgets, etc
Some people want something that just works, but others want something they can tinker with and personalize and don't mind dealing with issues. Sort of like the car enthusiast who buys the classic muscle car that might need some work compared to the average car driver who buys something new and reliable.
Also try checking this out.
I can't remember this list I came across at the moment but go to google and type in 20 things iPhone users can't do that android users can. If I find it tomorrow I'll post it.
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For me, the advantage of Android in contrast to Apple is that the most - and quite - Apps in the Play Store are for free.
One - and the almost - point is that you can change the battery in Android phones and in the iPhones series not. Also if your iPhone would be long used the memory effect takes effect and you can throw it away because repairing is more expensive than a new modell.
In Android phones you can change the battery if you have feeling that the battery lifetime is low.
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Hello all XDA Members
i wanted to know WHAT´s the reason why i should use an Android Phone instead of an iPhone.
iPhone got nice Apps ( high Quality ) & also the Phone itself looks nice. But im not sure if i should buy an iPhone or SGSIII
Hope you can gimme some good reasons
Greetz SpeedYY
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
You will love iPhone iOS if :
1.You want something that is working for you and you willing to live with the same thing for quite a long time.
2.You won't bother if your neighbour's phone, your school teacher's phone, your auntie's phone, your baby sitter's (if you have kids ) phone are having ALL THE SAME design for hardware and software.
3.If you think that a phone can represent your status in the social.
4.If you are a boss (just kidding... it might be true sometimes, at somewhere...)
5.If you always worrying people find out what you did in last summer.
You will love Android phones if :
1.You easily get bored with what the stock is having and wish that you can do something about it.
2.You can't sleep well for few nights thinking why your neighbour's phone UI looks exactly the same as yours.
3.If you think that a smartphone must capable of doing more things and having more freedoms than iPhone.
4.If you want to take control over the phone instead of letting it control the way you live with it. (e.g : remove system apps that you don't want from your phone)
5.If you don't mind someone knows what you did in last summer.
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Nobody mentioned that you can't use flash with an iphone and you can't just download things on the Internet
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You can use flash on an iphone.
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indeed! plus a 3.5" screen is just too small these days...
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Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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This is the way I've started describing it:
iPhone = Automatic transmission car: All you have to do is hit the gas and it goes, you don't have as much control but you don't really realize it because of how nice it feels and how easy it is to drive.
Android = Manual transmission car: You have way more control and the potential to have more speed and power if you are a good driver. But it's not nearly as easy as an automatic and not everyone can handle it.
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i own a WP7 right now xD so it´s comparable with that Automatic transmission car either - nearly not customization- but works and the user doesn't realize it. And im sick of WP7 because they don´t have as many apps as all other OS' got. The second thing i hate about it is the way how you have to unlock it... COMPLICATED :/ ( i bricked my WP7 :'D ) - The third thing i hate about WP7 are the high prices for apps... ( 2,99€ for Doodle Jump -.- )
Android: custom Roms ( Lite'ning Rom for example - but unfortunately non of my friends is using a custom Rom for Android -.- ), easy sideloading, cheap apps ( dunno about the quality of the apps - if someone could tell me how the quality is like i would thank that guy - )
iPhone: high Quality apps, nice design, MUST HAVE PHONE
MikeyMike01 said:
Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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You must be a troll
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Coffinfeeder said:
You must be a troll
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Having a 4.7" screen is great but 5.x" like the Note has just sucks...
MikeyMike01 said:
Beats the living hell out of a 4.5" screen. Or even worse, some bloated turd like the Note.
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Well the beauty of Android is you can pick the screen size anything from just over 3" to 5". Personally I don't want anything much over 4" and like a keyboard so the Droid 3 was my best choice. Phones shouldn't be one size fits all and manufacturers will build whatever size phones sell. Large screens has been an untapped market so 2012 is the year of large screens. But as long as there is demand for < 4" screens then they will still be produced.
Hello . So I've wanted a smart device for a while, and It looks like the galaxy Player 4.0 will be able to fill that gap quite nicely, when I have enough money to get one in a couple of months. Anyway, what I was wondering is if you guys have any tips for me about buying, or just about using the player. I'm thinking about buying from amazon, along with an invisible shield for the screen and a case by Ringke. Also, I've set up a Google voice account to use with GrooveIP to get a sort of WiFi phone thing going on. I'll have to test it, but I think it will work. Suggestions / tips / warnings?
-Thanks!
P.S. I'm hoping by the time I get the player, team SuperNova will have a daily usable version of their ICS port (Right now it has no deep sleep, so low on battery life).
(After seeing custom themes, I've been making a mock up in GIMP, but I can't post the link as I have less than 10 posts)
Go on ebay and u can find lots of cheaper cases for sale around 3-7USD.
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Just be sure its already a 2.3.6 version. Mine stucks at 2.2.2 nd git problem on connecting kies
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rockerblood said:
Just be sure its already a 2.3.6 version. Mine stucks at 2.2.2 nd git problem on connecting kies
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Interesting. Amazon lists it as 2.3.5
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Just be sure its already a 2.3.6 version. Mine stucks at 2.2.2 nd git problem on connecting kies
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Like the poster above me, i thought the SGP 4.0 came with at least 2.3.5? Mine did. Also, can't you use the OTA update via settings=>About Deviice=>software update?
da1writer said:
Like the poster above me, i thought the SGP 4.0 came with at least 2.3.5? Mine did. Also, can't you use the OTA update via settings=>About Deviice=>software update?
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It depends of the device variant. His is an internationnal one so it came with 2.2.2 or 2.2.1. He needs to use odin or heimdall to update his player.
The groove ip app looks good. I haven't tried it because google voice isn't available in my country.
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ps2owner said:
Hello . So I've wanted a smart device for a while, and It looks like the galaxy Player 4.0 will be able to fill that gap quite nicely, when I have enough money to get one in a couple of months. Anyway, what I was wondering is if you guys have any tips for me about buying, or just about using the player. I'm thinking about buying from amazon, along with an invisible shield for the screen and a case by Ringke. Also, I've set up a Google voice account to use with GrooveIP to get a sort of WiFi phone thing going on. I'll have to test it, but I think it will work. Suggestions / tips / warnings?
-Thanks!
P.S. I'm hoping by the time I get the player, team SuperNova will have a daily usable version of their ICS port (Right now it has no deep sleep, so low on battery life).
(After seeing custom themes, I've been making a mock up in GIMP, but I can't post the link as I have less than 10 posts)
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All I have to say is don't buy a Ringke case. I had mine for exactly 3 months, and on the upper left and right hand corners it ripped lol. I suggest getting a TPU gel case or HIGHLY recommend getting a Nillkin case seen here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nillkin-Sof...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3a79b544cb. They both cost about half the price of the Ringke case and are way better in terms of durability. All I have to say is make sure that the screen protector you choose fits. Mines I had to trim a bit off lol, but it is reusable (water install) so that is fine.
I can vouch that GrooveIP and Google Voice work very well on this device. I use it as a wifi phone all the time. At college it connects to the internet easily and calls are clear and loud. I can text using the Google Voice app too so it is all good. My only issue with this device is the limited ram. So if you have too many apps open be prepared to deal with some extreme lag. So I suggest having like 1-3 open at a time, and going to task manager and closing out the ones you are not using.
guys help i tried odin nd kies but it doesnt detect my sgs player even i installed usb driver.. whats the possible problem?
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Don't get the 4.0
My advice get the 5.0 more deb support and a ton more real estate for games and movies, I know youll say it's only for music but you WILL use it for more, just do yourself a great favor and get the 5.0
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Reventon319 said:
My advice get the 5.0 more deb support and a ton more real estate for games and movies, I know youll say it's only for music but you WILL use it for more, just do yourself a great favor and get the 5.0
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My main concern about the 5.0 is the larger screen is the same resolution as the 4.0. Does the DPI/pixel resolution look good on it?
ps2owner said:
My main concern about the 5.0 is the larger screen is the same resolution as the 4.0. Does the DPI/pixel resolution look good on it?
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I can't exactly remember how it looked, but it wasn't really bad. If you're used to some of the newer Amoled displays on the high end Samsung devices, you might not think it's very good, but I do know that the 4.0 screen IMO looks great, I loved it. I own a Galaxy S2, and I honestly couldn't tell any real difference from just glancing at them.
Well, I guess I'll wait till I buy to decide whether to get the 4.0 or the 5.0. If hanthesolo's build is far enough along. (HW acceleration/Deep sleep)
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My main concern about the 5.0 is the larger screen is the same resolution as the 4.0. Does the DPI/pixel resolution look good on it?
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the galaxy player 5.0 has the same resolution and stock build.prop dpi setting as the 4.0 but the 5.0 has a lower physical ppi.
I've got the 5.0, and you can see the pixels if you look for them, but it's not bad. If you plan on using the micro sd card slot a lot, the 5.0 has easier access I think (I Belle the 4.0 has to go through the battery panel). The screen size is great for sharing text and video, letting two or more people see it with ease. My wife has regularly preferred top read off my player than her Samsung Stratosphere.
As far as a case, I'm not sure you need one. I've had mine since February, and while it's taken some heavy falls, the worst it has to show is a little marring of the plastic where it hit the concrete and a hairline crack in that corner. (You really have to squint to see the crack).
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I can vouch that GrooveIP and Google Voice work very well on this device. I use it as a wifi phone all the time. At college it connects to the internet easily and calls are clear and loud. I can text using the Google Voice app too so it is all good. My only issue with this device is the limited ram. So if you have too many apps open be prepared to deal with some extreme lag. So I suggest having like 1-3 open at a time, and going to task manager and closing out the ones you are not using.
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Just piggybacking off what Obscuresword said. Google Voice is fantastic on the Galaxy Player. GrooveIP sounds better on my end than my cell phone, but I have heard some callers complain that I echo and no amount of playing with the settings has changed that. Also, he is spot on when mentioning the multi-tasking. For a device that no one really cares about it can do some pretty amazing stuff...but when it gets bogged down don't expect any amount of snappiness whatsoever. It was sold as a media player and has barebones hardware to match that description. This is no SGIII.
Knocks on the hardware aside the end result is this: I leave a dumb phone in my car(for emergencies) and take my 4.0 with me wherever I go.
I have a 5.0 and my dad has a 4.0 and here are the differences.
5.0 has more battery life than the 4.0 and usually lasts longer.
The sound chip on the 4.0 is much nicer than the one of the 5.0.
Both of them can do the same job, although I would suggest using LCD Resolution to make it look better.
You have two speakers on the 5.0 rather than the 4.0.
That aside, the main difference is the form factor which can turn some people off. My local best buy has the 4.2 and 5.0 on display so I would suggest going there to see how big they are. The 4.2 is like the 4.0 only with a newer Android OS 2.3.7?. That adds docking features and updates some of the Google Apps but nothing big.
I would suggest getting case and screen protector when you can get it. They help a lot. Also check out the roms and kernels and see what you like. That might persuade you one way or another. I wouldn't suggest the 3.5 as its screen resolution is bad but its very small.
Apps
Groove IP/Google Voice (You can make calls on your tablet)
HeyWire (txting app)
With these two you have mostly a phone, except it can't get on 3g networks and the like.
Titanium Backup Very useful since you can downgrade your apps, make backups of your apps and freeze system ones that you don't really use without uninstalling them.
PowerAMP Great music app that I use. I love it but try it before you buy it.
Hope this helps.
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If you plan on using the micro sd card slot a lot, the 5.0 has easier access I think (I Belle the 4.0 has to go through the battery panel).
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