Diztronic Matte Black HTC EVO 4G LTE TPU case available on Amazon - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Just wanted to get the word out to who ever is interested. They make great TPU cases!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00851NV6G

Nice big fan of tpu cases!
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Are these cases sticky like silicone, or do they slide out of pockets like hard plastic?
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Blue_Alien said:
Are these cases sticky like silicone, or do they slide out of pockets like hard plastic?
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tpu are harder. def not sticky.

Thanks, bought one! It looks nice, too

$9.90
It looks very nice.

Fyi, it will be impossible to use the pull out the kickstand with that case
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Fyi, it will be impossible to use the pull out the kickstand with that case
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Why would you say that? Works perfectly. I personally guarantee it I just got to test the case on my Evo last night and I honestly believe this is our best case to date. I just hope they release a white phone so we can make a clear case!

OneStepAhead said:
Why would you say that? Works perfectly. I personally guarantee it I just got to test the case on my Evo last night and I honestly believe this is our best case to date. I just hope they release a white phone so we can make a clear case!
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That's good to hear, mine should arrive tomorrow! I'm not activating my phone without it!

Not big on cases, but I ordered off of Amazon yesterday. Will use it when going camping, out of town, etc.

My case just arrived, looks very nice! Too bad I don't have a phone to put in it yet.

OneStepAhead said:
Why would you say that? Works perfectly. I personally guarantee it I just got to test the case on my Evo last night and I honestly believe this is our best case to date. I just hope they release a white phone so we can make a clear case!
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Just got the matte black from amazon last night. Any word on a compatible holster?

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Just got the matte black from amazon last night. Any word on a compatible holster?
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I heard someone on the Cases thread mentioned that the Seidio Surface holster works well with it and although I haven't purchased it yet, I'm definitely leaning towards doing so.
http://www.seidioonline.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-surface-holster-p/hlhtjetasc.htm

Is there some sort of rubber in between the phone and the hard plastic?

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I heard someone on the Cases thread mentioned that the Seidio Surface holster works well with it and although I haven't purchased it yet, I'm definitely leaning towards doing so.
http://www.seidioonline.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-surface-holster-p/hlhtjetasc.htm
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Yes the surface case works very well with pretty much all TPU cases. That is the setup i have been using on my last couple of phones.

Received mine from Amazon earlier today. Just got around to installing it. As always, Diztronic comes through again! I wouldn't use any other case! Fit and finish is superb, the camera protrusion is protected from getting scuffed up on the desk, and the kickstand is still very easily to get to.
I have used your cases on my Epic Touch 4G, my Moto RAZR Maxx work phone, and now of course on my EVO LTE! Great job guys and THANK YOU for another excellent product!
* No I am not getting paid to say this nor did I receive my case for free! These cases are just the S**TZ!!!

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Fyi, it will be impossible to use the pull out the kickstand with that case
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Is the camera button covered? The angle of the photo doesn't show that corner.
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The camera button is not covered on the Dixtonic case. The case has a nicely sized opening to allow access.

I'm In for one!
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Incipio Silicrylic Case

just saw this case
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http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=62902 and im thinking of getting it until seidio releases their active case.
Daydeal review http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2ZYmXQmUs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Great ...
... something to make sure this thing retains even MORE heat.
Sorry about yo luck, I got no heating problems here ;-)
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Closest thing I've seen to the Active case to date. I may pick one up as well. If you get one let us know what you think of it.
Cubs2008 said:
Closest thing I've seen to the Active case to date. I may pick one up as well. If you get one let us know what you think of it.
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Just ordered, should be here early next week.
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I love their cases, but why the hell don't they offer a holster?
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I had that case on my Droid charge for a while, but every time I pulled it out of my pocket it was covered in lint.
That drove me nuts, so I gave it away free to another XDA poster.
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Wow, this one looks awesome! I just ordered a case the other day, but I wish I had seen this one first. I got this one:
Empire Case
If I don't like it I make send it back and get this one. Thanks for sharing man.
Just got mine today in the mail. Went with the light/dark grey one to combat pocket lint. Feels good in hand, better than the Otterbox Commuter.
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That's the one I want, looks great. Any chance you have a holster to test fit?
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Does it collect lint?
x3demond3x said:
Does it collect lint?
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I heard silicrylic is more lint proof than otter, but it still does collect lint. I should be receiving my black on Black soon so we will see.
Here is a nice review by daydeal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2ZYmXQmUs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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That's the one I want, looks great. Any chance you have a holster to test fit?
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I don't have a holster, sorry
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With the light gray on the sides, it's barely noticable. The black Otterbox I had was terrible.
Got mine today, not as nice as the seidio active line. Kind of loose at the sides, but otherwise it's pretty nice. Didn't try the included screen protector cuz I have the halo anti glare installed. I'll be picking up the seidio tho once released, but this will suffice till then. Also very little lint build up.
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Just got mine today in the mail. Went with the light/dark grey one to combat pocket lint. Feels good in hand, better than the Otterbox Commuter.
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How is the quality of that one? I have a Commuter on mine right now, and the quality is really nice. The plastic just feels very solid compared to some others I've seen. Is the plastic pretty thick and sturdy? Btw, that looks sexy as hell.
I just bought the gray 1 on ebay for 22 dollars shipped prime, I've got both the holster that you can get from verizon that works with the extended battery cover, in the slim version of that 1 available on amazon.
I will try them both on the new case and let everybody know.
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Im about to order the grey and black case from amazon. Think i will still get the screen protector with it? I heard they are decent.
Yes, you'll get a screen protector in the kit.
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Yes you will, but the protector doesn't fit entire screen and has no cut out for front facing camera and light sensor tho :-\
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If anyone is interested I'm selling my black on Black incipio for $15 if anyone is interested.
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Seidio Active with kickstand combo (updated)

Just ordered 2 of these bad boys for my gnex and note, can anyone share pros/cons?
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So they finally arrived and I couldn't be any happier!
My first impression with both cases and holsters is that they're perfect, they're totally what I wanted. Rugged, easy, and cool.
Some pics of the gnex first and the note will follow. Took some outside shots from my balcony on the 3rd floor.
gnex
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This thread should help you a little with opinions, mate
Awesome, thanks man! Seems to be a good product, never tried Seidio before and I'm pretty excited about these cases
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jasg001 said:
Awesome, thanks man! Seems to be a good product, never tried Seidio before and I'm pretty excited about these cases
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Anytime mate.
They are a good-quality case, I don't think you'll be disappointed
jasg001 said:
Awesome, thanks man! Seems to be a good product, never tried Seidio before and I'm pretty excited about these cases
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Ever use the Platinum Cases from Best Buy?
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Nope, I've scoured a few Best Buys here in Vancouver and they don't have much for the note. Only saw a gel type case which won't do it for me so I decided to look online
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Nope, I've scoured a few Best Buys here in Vancouver and they don't have much for the note. Only saw a gel type case which won't do it for me so I decided to look online
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Reason I asked is from what I understand, Seidio makes the Platinum Cases for Best Buy. That'll give you a good look at what the Sedio will be like.
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Cool thanks, haven't had a chance to see the Platinum cases in person but my Seidios should be coming soon
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I had a Seidio Active case on my Skyrocket. Personally, I think it's the absolute best compromise there is for size vs. protection. For the Skyrocket, I used it as my everyday case. I just ordered one for my Note.
My only complaint is that the rubber is a little too grippy, which makes it a slightly harder to get in and out of pockets than a tpu case. And it will collect lint. The one for my Skyrocket got better the more I used it though.
Nice, glad to hear ur getting good use out of it. I rocked the otterbox commuter on my gnex for a long while and the rubber part definitely collects lint. Microfiber cloth once in awhile cleans it up pretty well. I'm definitely interested in seeing how the rubber from the active compares to the commuter
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The Seidio Active will be half the size of the Otterbox products.
Just received mine and I love it!! Kickstand is nice and sturdy and easily goes in and out of my pocket..
Now I just gotta get the holster and im set!!
Cool, I'm looking forward to using the kickstand too. I'm not a fan of docks and the kickstand will be nice for laying it sideways upright on the desk for sure
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I received mine and I like it. I just wish the entire kickstand was metal instead of plastic.
How does it hold up so far webdave? Does it feel flimsy or like it won't last long?
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How does it hold up so far webdave? Does it feel flimsy or like it won't last long?
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I actually decided to return the case for a few reasons.
1. The kickstand feels cheap. It is a very light plastic with a small magnet embedded on one side of it. I like how the magnet makes it snap into place but it feels like it could easily snap off when open.
2. I don't like the ridges on the soft silicone. It makes it too difficult for me to remove from a pocket.
MrDSL said:
Just received mine and I love it!! Kickstand is nice and sturdy and easily goes in and out of my pocket..
Now I just gotta get the holster and im set!!
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hey man, nice to see you here..I loved your stuff from the evo days..
I have a new kraaken which is too bulky for me, so I am gonna sell it;
ordered this guy yesterday, so glad to hear its a bit less bulky than the Trident Kraaken..
enter this coupon code on the seidio website for 15% off "SHOW2012"
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enter this coupon code on the seidio website for 15% off "SHOW2012"
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where were you last night when I paid full price for this thing!!
wase4711 said:
where were you last night when I paid full price for this thing!!
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LOL sorry! i just saw it today. i actually ordered mine of amazon just now and it still was a couple bucks cheaper than the seidio website with the discount. shipping price may differ tho.

Transparent Case?

Hey does anyone know of a case that I can get that's transparent and has a good build to it for this phone? I really want to have some good protection, but not cover up the beautiful device.
Thanks!
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I would like a rubber transparent skin myself.
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I am sure within a few weeks of release there will be a few clear or smoked tpu cases available, but I haven't seen any yet
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I am sure within a few weeks of release there will be a few clear or smoked tpu cases available, but I haven't seen any yet
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There are translucent TPU cases in-stock at htcpedia and Amazon. Colors available are blue, purple, and smoke.
Something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-AMZ9369..._1_9?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1337094728&sr=1-9
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Joey SR said:
Something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-AMZ9369..._1_9?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1337094728&sr=1-9
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yea but not for $10 bucks lol. Maybe $5. Just not used to paying so much for a tpu case.
Joey SR said:
Something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-AMZ9369..._1_9?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1337094728&sr=1-9
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Papichulo06 said:
yea but not for $10 bucks lol. Maybe $5. Just not used to paying so much for a tpu case.
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I got my TPU case for under $3. But I wouldn't pay more than $7. Personally, I would wait until the phone is officially out before purchasing.
I bought one on Ebay that's actually pretty cool, though it's my temporary case: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261025718944?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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I got my TPU case for under $3. But I wouldn't pay more than $7. Personally, I would wait until the phone is officially out before purchasing.
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That's my theory right now. The only thing I have bought so far are NFC tags but they should work on any NFC enabled phone.
I'm also curious if there is a truly clear tpu case (or otherwise).
Not translucent white, smoke, etc. A truly colorless clear case.
So far all I have is a skinomi shield which protects against scratches but not impact.
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I'm also curious if there is a truly clear tpu case (or otherwise).
Not translucent white, smoke, etc. A truly colorless clear case.
So far all I have is a skinomi shield which protects against scratches but not impact.
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I'm guessing that the one I bought on Ebay is as clear as they can get, for TPU. I can read through it,so it's fairly clear.
jamerican413 said:
I'm guessing that the one I bought on Ebay is as clear as they can get, for TPU. I can read through it,so it's fairly clear.
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Yeah, I'm looking for one that is colorless and clear. So if I were to put it over a black phone, it would still appear to be black.
I would consider the one in your link to be translucent white. To me, a clear case allows whatever color is below it to show through transparently.
I guess they can't make TPU transparently clear.
I have a clear case for the 3vo and after a while of use it turns brownish clear and looks awful but with the fact that they are cheap I guess $5 for a few months of coolness wouldn't be to bad. just don't expect it to stay clear clear forever
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mayfield103 said:
I have a clear case for the 3vo and after a while of use it turns brownish clear and looks awful but with the fact that they are cheap I guess $5 for a few months of coolness wouldn't be to bad. just don't expect it to stay clear clear forever
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That's a good point. I hate seeing that yellowish plastic. I think I'm going to go with one of the tpu-cases.com now. They look pretty good.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRYSTAL-CLE...617064?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc66616e8
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I bought one on Ebay that's actually pretty cool, though it's my temporary case: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261025718944?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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That's the one I ordered. For free shipping you cant really go wrong for 6.95, plus its clear like I wanted.
I ordered 3 of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/26102571894...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_1432wt_1410 earlier in the week. It looks like they might be shipping to me today, so with luck I can clue everyone in if it was worth the money.
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I ordered 3 of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/26102571894...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_1432wt_1410 earlier in the week. It looks like they might be shipping to me today, so with luck I can clue everyone in if it was worth the money.
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I ordered that same case... Not impressed. The inside is frosted causing it to not be clear. I'm also waiting on a perfectly clear tpu, which they CAN make....I had one for the the EVO 4G...
I want one soooo bad, I need to show this work off....
I guess were just gonna have to wait.
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Got this today was wanting mote transparency but also tpu. Tight fit power, volume, camera covered.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221038245339?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Can you post a few pics of it on the device please? I've been "watching" that case but feared it was just like the other I ordered.
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Which case

Im trying to find a good case thats not too bulky but has good protection. Any ideas? Thanks in advance
The Otterbox Commuter is a great case.
Also check this out. They don't add much bulk and are just plain cool
http://www.cruzerlite.com/cases/htc/evo
Thanks ima check em out
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The Commuter adds a good amount of protection and feels nice. The Cruzerlite or any TPU case will also add some good protection and has a great fit around a case, but adds significantly less bulk. It's very noticeable between the two cases how much thinner one is than the other.
Ok thanks. I think ima get the otterbox commuter case
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I got this and really enjoy it: http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=48_66&products_id=259
if your phone is a work phone, work in physical/weathering environments, if youre clumsy, if you have a history of dropping your phones.. then go for a more robust otterbox solution..
if youre like me, one who babys their phone and holds it tighter than a newborn out in public, then settle for a tpu solution like the cruzerlites. super thin, provide great protection, has no design flaws.
I have the Cruzerlite and Diztronic cases. Love them both. The Diztronic matte black is barely noticeable.
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I have the black androidify cruzerlite and the otterbox commuter. I love them both and rotate between them while at work. I go naked on weekends!
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+1 Otterbox Commuter, I really like it
The Otterbox Commuter is perfect the build is outstanding you wont regret it and the Seidio Active Holster fits like if it was made for it. That's if you need a holster. My other post here has pictures.
Does it add alot of bulk tho?
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My friend just got this one from Sprint and it adds almost no bulk at all which put me off all the others I looked at. Also has a nice ridged soft touch backing. I'm thinking I might get one too.
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Case mate just released their "barely there" case for the Evo LTE. My sister has the at&t one x version, and it's the nicest case I've seen on a smart phone honestly.
I ordered it, and will report back once I've got it.
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What case did you end up getting?
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Case mate just released their "barely there" case for the Evo LTE. My sister has the at&t one x version, and it's the nicest case I've seen on a smart phone honestly.
I ordered it, and will report back once I've got it.
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I've had the Barely There case on my Evo LTE for about 3 or 4 weeks now. Perfect for what I needed. Didn't add too much thickness to the phone, added a little more grip, and protected the screen if I put it face down.
Had one on my OG Evo as well, and knew that was exactly what I was going to go with on the new phone.
otter box defender here and compared to the defender for the 3d this one is much slimmer and IMO doesnt add very much bulk at all
I got the diztronic case but I might also get the otterbox commuter
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Got the "barely there" case finally. Definitely glad I went with it. If you are looking for a case that adds minimal thickness, this is it.
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TPU Case

Any word on a tpu case? I'm getting the device tomorrow and tpu is my favorite.
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jonah1234 said:
Any word on a tpu case? I'm getting the device tomorrow and tpu is my favorite.
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Talked to the guy from Cruzerlite, they will be making cases for this phone. There is also one on the VZW site.
Pretty sure Diztronic will have their tpu case out as well
Check out case - is - here . com (not allowed post links yet) they have a good looking tpu case for DNA.. I have no idea if this site is genuine though...
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Pretty sure Diztronic will have their tpu case out as well
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Any word on a tpu case? I'm getting the device tomorrow and tpu is my favorite.
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I ordered this one a couple of days ago from China - not the best-looking of cases, but under $3 including postage.
I'll likely replace it with something better once the accessory manufacturers get their act into gear and start making more products for the DNA, but in the meantime it'll do nicely for protection.
Just ordered Diztronic TPU case from Amazon.
Can't post links yet but if you search Droid DNA Diztronic case it will show up. Always have good luck with Diztronic TPU.
I just bought the blue tpu from Verizon its really sleek. I couldn't wait. I have the answer to the burning question and it is YES YOU CAN SEE the rear notification light through the case!
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I just bought the blue tpu from Verizon its really sleek. I couldn't wait. I have the answer to the burning question and it is YES YOU CAN SEE the rear notification light through the case!
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Can you confirm that the slash marks in the Verizon tpu leave marks in the back of the phone?
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Can you confirm that the slash marks in the Verizon tpu leave marks in the back of the phone?
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Hmm yeah when you take it off there are indeed criss cross marks on the back. However, they can easily be rubbed off as it appears to only be indented or pressed into the soft coating. You can't really see the pattern its not nearly as ugly on the website. I do not see this as an issue. I will report back if it becomes a problem.
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Diztronic's case will be shipping tomorrow
I got the tpu case from Verizon.
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jonah1234 said:
I got the tpu case from Verizon.
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Do you agree that the marks are not permanent ? What do you think?
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There's a guy in the cases thread below that said its been like 3 days and marks won't go away?
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leoingle said:
Diztronic's case will be shipping tomorrow
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Can you post pics when you get it? They don't show any photos of it
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Danzoman316 said:
Do you agree that the marks are not permanent ? What do you think?
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I think that they might stay but maybe after a year or so it will start to get worn out.
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I also got the TPU case from Verizon. I don't have any marks from it, but I have been using it off and on
bballboy32591 said:
I also got the TPU case from Verizon. I don't have any marks from it, but I have been using it off and on
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How long have you had it cause I've had it for 4 days and the marks are really annoying to see whenever you take your case off.
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jonah1234 said:
How long have you had it cause I've had it for 4 days and the marks are really annoying to see whenever you take your case off.
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I've had it for 4 days as well and I don't have any but I also constantly wipe off the back of the phone to get rid of fingerprints. I'm kind of anal about smudges
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?&action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=52127
Is this the case you all got from VZW?
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