US ATT Atrix MB860 battery question - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know there are million battery threads and I have read through them all and still don't know what to do.
My Atrix is more than a year old - its out of warranty. I don't know when I got it but I have been using it for a while and love the phone.
Issue
Over the last month I have started noticing that battery would not charge to 100% indicator. Initially it would go to 95%, then 935 and yesterday it was 88%. I downloaded the battery app and it would show that the battery is actually fully charged 4205 mV.
I have used the following tempfix:
Delete data/system/batterystats.bin
delete cc_data, cc_data_old and powerup in data/battd
After doing above and rebooting it will show actual charge (100%) at 4205 mV. But in the next cycle same issue happens.
I am on NottachTrix 1.3.1 with N_01.77.37P radio and default US ATT kernel. I actually have great battery life. A single charge usually last 1.5 to 2 days on low use.
Questions What should I do?
Do the tempfix after every charge?
Go back to Stock AT&T from Motorola?
Sell the phone since it will only get worse from now on and there is no solution?
Is it likely that installing CM9 would have caused this? I installed it for couple of days (jokersax) and reverted soon. Did the installation delete/corrupt critical files?

My own opinion, if you can make it through a day with moderate usage, then is it really an issue?
If it's something that's really bugging you then you could probably get a cheap replacement battery off of eBay since you did most of the standard fixes to correct it already...

ccrows said:
My own opinion, if you can make it through a day with moderate usage, then is it really an issue?
If it's something that's really bugging you then you could probably get a cheap replacement battery off of eBay since you did most of the standard fixes to correct it already...
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I read all these thread and they mention that there might be a hardware flaw that starts roughly a year later (no warranty - good job moto ) that results in bricked Atrix. I am worried that the issues I am seeing are related to that. If that is not the case then I will keep Atrix around till SGS 4 is a announced and SGS 3 is a year old and I can buy it for 300

If your phone is fully charged (4205 mV), then it's fully charged. You've done the standard fixes to get the reported percentage back to reality, but there isn't really a permanent solution. It's not going to brick your phone, it's just an annoyance.
Mine caps at around 93% (with 4205 mV) and I get a day and a half with moderate usage. If you leave it alone over several cycles, like a week or so, does your max percentage quit changing drastically?

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[Q] Battery issues.........

I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
Recruiter1 said:
I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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happened with me also....10% battery drained overnight...
what app is using most of ur battery?
sometimes push service in some free market apps drains a lot of battery and it keeps running even when app is closed... check running processes... well i uninstalled that app with push service and all became normal
Thanks for that but i've had a look through and it would seem that there isn't anything happening over night that i'm not expecting or that is being very hard on the battery.
I'm pretty confident the battery is the culprit here. Sourcing a new battery however is proving to be a problem. Somebody somewhere must be selling them.
I've just been on to HTC in the UK, they have a service centre not very far away from me and they won't sell me a battery or even give me a part no. for the battery.
Come on, somebody must know where to get one.
I think i might have found somewhere in China...
Battery - BG41200
3.7v - 4000mAh
If the prices were cheap enough how many of you would be interested in buying a battery for your Flyer.
Perhaps do a group buy?
i thought flyers battery is not user replaceable?
It's very replaceable and easy to do.
Here......
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
I'm going to have to look at getting a new battery sooner or later. It's getting to the point hat the battery is always running low by the time I get home in the evening or even running out. With pretty much the same use it used to be good for a day and a half easily. Flyer was purchase may or june 2011 so it really needs to last another 16 months or so.
Well......I ask again. If anyone knows of where to buy an internal Flyer battery please post a linky.
I posted this thread earlier today
"I just wanted to know what people are getting out of their batteries. I unplug mine around 7:30 am when i leave for work. When I get to work i turn on my wifi (rooted thunderbolt) and leave that on all day. I have the setting to turn wifi off (flyer) when screen is off. When I get home around 5:30 i switch to my home network and by 8-10 my battery is pretty much gone. Is this normal battery life or are there any tricks I'm not aware of that will help with battery. My wife has an Ipad 1 and she seems to get days of use out of it before she needs to charge it.
Also, I don't watch movies or video at work... most of my use is surfing, twitter and email."
I'm trying to figure out if what is normal battery life and If mine came with a bad battery. If so Yes I would be interested in getting a new one.
The Ipad battery has much longer life and is a much bigger capacity battery. The new HTC Jetstream also has a much bigger capacity battery as well. I think HTC have learned lessons on how much battery power these flyers use, but unfortunately have used Flyer owners as guinea pigs, rather like the first Apple iPhone but that had terrible battery issues as well although they've gotten better over time.
When my Flyer was brand new the battery lasted for ages and i couldn't understand what people were on about the battery not lasting for very long. So up until a few weeks ago my battery was doing fine and then almost within a day or two the battery started to run down quickly and has been doing so ever since. I've since loaded/unloaded new ROMS and done all the usual procedures for deleting the battery stats etc..., and still no joy.
I think the problem is with the battery not being man enough for the job at 4000mAh, and the drain is such that the battery is being worked hard since September last year (in my case) to a point where it is now progressively failing. I'm not so sure either that it's all that good in terms of quality.
Most of that time it has been charging from one source or another. If my Flyer isn't in the car or in the house it's not often being used battery only unlike most other people probably use the battery only a lot, so i can't understand why the battery is failing when it's not even that old.
This is a big issue with the Flyer and for what the device cost i would have expected a lot better. I think the Flyer in itself is a fantastic piece of kit that i will no doubt keep for a very long time as i did my XDA IIi but i never had problems buying another battery for my IIi. HTC will not sell me a battery, they insist i send the device to them and they will swap it but will cost about £50-£60 for the pleasure. I flatly refuse to pay that!!
What is required is a bigger capacity battery (6000-8000mAh) in the same packaging as the current battery however, i think for now i would happily settle for another of the same battery if i could just get hold of one.
So far it's proving an impossible task!!
Just to add: Once you've made sure there aren't apps being opened at startup that don't need to be opened until you're ready to use them, also make sure wifi/bluetooth, mobile data is all off when not required, and all the usual tweakes to make sure animations are off, screen is on the lowest brightness etc..., then there is not a lot more you can do. I don't know how much use something like Juice Defender will be as that only makes sure your data connections are off at night and other times you specify. I've tried it and it didn't help at all so i don't know what else to suggest apart from turning the radio part of the phone off completely at night if it isn't on charge.
If i leave my phone off charge all night, having fully charged first, i wake up in the morning and it's down to around 86-88% battery.

[Q] Battery percentage reading incorrect - new OEM battery

I recently ordered two new OEM batteries for my Atrix 4G, equivalent to the battery I was replacing – at least they appear that way. When I installed the new battery, my battery indicator was showing that the phone was at 15% after only a few hours. I charged a couple of times with the same problem occurring, I tried the second battery. When the same thing happened, I decided just to let it die all the way and charge fully after. My battery level hit 1% and stayed that way for hours and hours of use. When I timed the battery life, it was actually very good and it appeared the battery meter was just reading wrong.
I tried several full discharge and recharge cycles and tried disconnecting the battery while the phone was plugged in until the ‘?’ battery appeared and reinstalled it. The same problem occurred again and again. Next, I rooted the phone and tried the battery recalibration app. Results were the same. I have followed this up with discharging and recharging the battery fully several times but the problem still remains.
I have now installed an app that reads the voltage on the battery. It reads ~4200mV when plugged in and fully charged. It will discharge to somewhere between 3200mV and 3300mV before the phone shuts off and it takes upwards of 30 hours for this to happen. This has proved to be a somewhat effective way to actually estimate my remaining battery but it is still driving me nuts that the meter is off. Is there anything I can do?
Thanks for your help!
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832470
barry_ said:
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832470
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Thanks for the reply. I installed the app a couple of days ago. I have tried the first option "Run the Fix" a couple of times, once with the battery stating it was at 100% while plugged in and once in the middle of the day while not plugged in. It has not seemed to do anything from what I can tell.
I have not run the second option to Fix battd yet because I had to figure out how to install Busybox, which I have now done. I will try that option tonight and report back.
Thanks.
You should also read about the purpose of the app and how to use it. It is all in the OP of that thread. There is no point in running the fix just whenever you feel like it, it is meant to be run only right after the battery is done charging. Running it any other time will most likely just mess up the stats/percentage even more (not irreversibly though).
ravilov said:
You should also read about the purpose of the app and how to use it. It is all in the OP of that thread. There is no point in running the fix just whenever you feel like it, it is meant to be run only right after the battery is done charging. Running it any other time will most likely just mess up the stats/percentage even more (not irreversibly though).
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I did "run the fix" when my battery was fully charged overnight and rebooted the phone. I used the phone for a couple of days and it did not improve the situation. Last night I charged to 100% again and did the "fix battd" option. Today, there has been no improvement in the meter. I will try charging to 100% again tonight and try the force calibration option with the "run the fix". Is there any other way I should try to run it?
It will always charge right up to 100% and 4200 mV, the problem is the percentage will drop rapidly once unplugged all the way down to 1%. Once it hits 1% it will stay there and I can keep using the phone through the rest of the day and even overnight and into the next day before it actually powers itself down.
Yeah, I've heard of a few other people having the same issue. Sadly the battery fix app isn't going to help in your case - I don't really know what will, I'm not sure if there is a fix. Try searching the forum, this has definitely been mentioned more than once.
Hi. I just started using the Atrix today. I flashed the official ICS leak. But strangely, my battery meter isn't going above 50%. Can i use the app (from the link given above) to solve the issue>?
thanks.
Dunno. Why don't you try and see for yourself?
BTW I don't think running the leaked ROM as a daily driver is a good idea at all, especially if you only just started using this phone...
ravilov said:
Dunno. Why don't you try and see for yourself?
BTW I don't think running the leaked ROM as a daily driver is a good idea at all, especially if you only just started using this phone...
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Oh ok. I will try it for a couple of days and see. So far, it is amazing. Fast, responsive, very very little lag. Just this battery thing is a little weird. BTW, it did go ahead of 50%...i hope it doesnt fall really fast.
And I have a NeXus 4 as my main phone. My office gives me one phone, hence the Atrix.
ravilov said:
Yeah, I've heard of a few other people having the same issue. Sadly the battery fix app isn't going to help in your case - I don't really know what will, I'm not sure if there is a fix. Try searching the forum, this has definitely been mentioned more than once.
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I have done some research and have found that this has been a common issue for users of the Droid X. There are two revisions of the BH6X battery, SNN5880A and SNN5893A. Many users of the Droid X purchasing the 5893 revision of the battery report having the exact same problem I am having. They have solved it by using the older 5880 revision. They suspected that the 5893 was made for the Atrix and the 5880 for the Droid.
The problem is, I have the newer 5893 revision on both new batteries which, according to that info, should work for my phone. I do not have my original battery that I was replacing with me at the moment but I can check that model number tomorrow night. I only found one other thread where a person had this issue with the Atrix here. There is no real answer on how to solve or work around the problem though and I am not having any luck finding others with this issue.
Is there any way to adjust the battery meter settings or simply hide the stock meter? I apologize if this is a dumb question.
Problem solved:
I tried the batteries in my girlfriend's Atrix and experienced the same problems. Convinced it was an issue with the battery itself, I contacted Motorola through live chat and explained the situation. After talking about (some of) the various troubleshooting steps I had taken, they told me they would send me a new battery. The battery came and has been working perfectly for the last week with the percentage showing accurately.
The two bad batteries I had were manufactured 04/08/11 and 04/12/11. The new one they sent was manufactured sometime in April 2012. Perhaps a bad batch of batteries was produced by Motorola. That would explain why Droid X owners believed that the battery was incompatible with their phones. The talk that the battery was incompatible started shortly after those batteries were produced (it looks like around August 2011), and mixed in there are reports of the SNN5893A working in the Droid X for some. Hopefully this info is helpful to others.
Thanks again to everyone who took the time to offer help.

Terrible stock battery life and won't accept non OEM batteries

Hey guys,
I've been lurking in the forums for the past year and lately I've noticed that my battery has been crapping out. I'm running CM 10.1-20130807-NIGHTLY-i777 (I update it once a month), i777UCLE5, with CWM 6.0.3.5.
With the stock battery I get just about 1.5 - 2 hours of active usage. If I listen to music on it for 45 minutes, the battery drains over 30%. This is with JuiceDefender on.
I invested in two Anker batteries which worked for about 2-5 months then started locking up my phone. When I rebooted, battery went from 98% to 13%. Happened to one of my two batteries in month 2, and the second battery crapped out in month 5. Then I got a so called "stock battery" from eBay -- had the same model # and everything but didn't have NFC on it. Crashes my phone and drains the battery instantly too.
I'm wondering -- is there any way I can make these after market batteries work with my phone? I'm guessing it has something to do with not having NFC. They probably have much better life than my stock battery but I just can't make use of them.
Any tips appreciated.
power86 said:
Hey guys,
I've been lurking in the forums for the past year and lately I've noticed that my battery has been crapping out. I'm running CM 10.1-20130807-NIGHTLY-i777 (I update it once a month), i777UCLE5, with CWM 6.0.3.5.
With the stock battery I get just about 1.5 - 2 hours of active usage. If I listen to music on it for 45 minutes, the battery drains over 30%. This is with JuiceDefender on.
I invested in two Anker batteries which worked for about 2-5 months then started locking up my phone. When I rebooted, battery went from 98% to 13%. Happened to one of my two batteries in month 2, and the second battery crapped out in month 5. Then I got a so called "stock battery" from eBay -- had the same model # and everything but didn't have NFC on it. Crashes my phone and drains the battery instantly too.
I'm wondering -- is there any way I can make these after market batteries work with my phone? I'm guessing it has something to do with not having NFC. They probably have much better life than my stock battery but I just can't make use of them.
Any tips appreciated.
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You need to search for the free xda version of Better Battery Stats so that you can take a more detailed look at what is causing your battery to drain.
You can find some great information by reading this thread.
You likely have something (or perhaps more than 1 thing) holding a wakelock that is not allowing the phone to get into a deep sleep and conserve battery power.
AJ Newkirk said:
You need to search for the free xda version of Better Battery Stats so that you can take a more detailed look at what is causing your battery to drain.
You can find some great information by reading this thread.
You likely have something (or perhaps more than 1 thing) holding a wakelock that is not allowing the phone to get into a deep sleep and conserve battery power.
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Thanks for the tip. I will try that out over the weekend.
Any advice to make non OEM batteries work with the i777?
power86 said:
Thanks for the tip. I will try that out over the weekend.
Any advice to make non OEM batteries work with the i777?
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You can use replacement batteries, but they will render NFC useless. Only OEM i777 batteries have the necessary equipment to make NFC work.
You may want to do a search in the Accessories forum here and see what people recommend.

[Q] How to check my 2y old battery for capacity ?

Hello fellow members.
My battery is almost 2y old. I think it's just gone bad already after this time.
5 days ago i changed my rom to newest ReVolt rom and kernel to newest Dorimanx.
Just before that (so i think it's not a case) i noticed significant baterry drain on screen on and off. Its about 1% every 3 min on screen on and about 20% slepp thru 8h in airplane mode (when i sleep)
But can i somehow chceck is my battery charging to the full capacity as new battery ?
If i'm not clear pls ask.
Without getting another battery to do a comparison or without dedicated battery testing gear, unlikely. However, I'd be getting a new one if one managed to last me two years without crapping itself well before that.
Edit - Having said, that, you can be fairly certain a two year old battery would either not be able to hold a charge/discharge as efficiently as a new(er) battery given batteries lose the ability to do these things the more you use them/the more you charge & discharge them
Buy a new one.
MistahBungle said:
Without getting another battery to do a comparison or without dedicated battery testing gear, unlikely. However, I'd be getting a new one if one managed to last me two years without crapping itself well before that.
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End of october im getting a S4 so wanted get thru somehow
But cant you check the real capacity with some app ? and whats the capacity of new original sammsung battery ?
Yep I hear you on the holding out for a new phone thing; I was going to wait until about then but my S2 started playing up hardware-wise & pretty much made the decision to go earlier for me.
From memory, a newish standard SGS2 battery holds around 4200mV full & about 3500mV close to empty (and I'm going way back in my memory here as I used a 2000mAh battery for all but the first two months), but that can be a little bit variable. I think given the age of the one you have, if it's significantly under that @ 100%, it's probably safe to say it's on its last legs (which is likely anyway purely because of how long you've had it).

First day battery drain very fast!

I thought a few hours ago the LG V30 Plus, i notice that the battery drain so fast. i'm really worried i spent so much money on this. I also read that the battery drain fast at frist days can come from proccess things or updates.
but i didn't update anything yet.
My question is: did you guys experience the same thing?
Thanks
Which version you have update 8.0 and turn off always on display option
We'll to make your battery last you need either a good rom or use apps like (greenify or L speed) because my battery was draining fast but using L speed last way longer
The V30 battery lasts forever ... find what app is dragging you down and remove it.
Johan_Khan said:
I thought a few hours ago the LG V30 Plus, i notice that the battery drain so fast. i'm really worried i spent so much money on this. I also read that the battery drain fast at frist days can come from proccess things or updates.
but i didn't update anything yet.
My question is: did you guys experience the same thing?
Thanks
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The V30 battery lasts forever ... find what app is dragging you down and remove it.
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Right. If you've got high drain then you have a rogue app.
I have had the chance to use two V30 H932s -- the one that @R800x_user loaned me to figure out root, and the one that I bought from eBay to continue development.
The loaner was new I assume, and it would hold a charge for *days*. The one I got from eBay (which I am returning due to this) will lose 25% overnight (6 to 7 hours).
Both phones were bone stock v20k, and both rooted -- they are identical. When I say bone stock, I mean literally I installed nothing else on either phone.
The only thing I can guess is that someone fried the battery on the one I got from eBay. Every battery app that I have installed all say that it is 100% health (3300 mAh), but something is different.
My V20, which is loaded with crap, loses maybe 2 to 3% overnight.
-- Brian
Thanks for all replays, Second day the battery looks much better now i see the value of this great battery
runningnak3d said:
I have had the chance to use two V30 H932s -- the one that @R800x_user loaned me to figure out root, and the one that I bought from eBay to continue development.
The loaner was new I assume, and it would hold a charge for *days*. The one I got from eBay (which I am returning due to this) will lose 25% overnight (6 to 7 hours).
Both phones were bone stock v20k, and both rooted -- they are identical. When I say bone stock, I mean literally I installed nothing else on either phone.
The only thing I can guess is that someone fried the battery on the one I got from eBay. Every battery app that I have installed all say that it is 100% health (3300 mAh), but something is different.
My V20, which is loaded with crap, loses maybe 2 to 3% overnight.
-- Brian
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Its almost been a year since i first got it. Holding up real good ?
Mines almost a year old now as well. After root, the memory usage seems to be better via the LG app and battery needs charged roughly every two days. That's with AOD and couple hours of wifi usage every day.

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