The german TV magazine "Monitor" has already uncovered many corporate scandals. They have once again on the Locust "Nokia" reported here has already shown its true colors in Germany.
After the company in the city Bochum took over € 60 million subsidy to support the work there, soon they have closed the factory and refunded only under pressure of about 30 million €.
Reason: too expensive jobs (2500 - $/2000 € average earnings), too far from the new markets.
They moved to Romania, where they roundabout also conceded 30 million subsidy for the creation of jobs, especially because a new infrastructure was created by the subsidies. After three years some time ago the factory was closed, no money refunded.
Reason: too expensive work (300 $/ 250 € average earnings), too far from the new markets. The merit was too small even for Romanian conditions, working conditions and times much harder than in Germany.
They moved to India, conceded there an estimated 100 million subsidy for the creation of jobs. Then again, relocating is planned.
Reason: jobs and working conditions in Vietnam are still cheaper (in India: 160 $/ 125 € average earnings). The achievement was even by Indian standards not sufficient to feed the family, working conditions and times are harder than in Romania.
Read carefully in advance to find out where your devices are manufactured and under what conditions. There is even a famous company from Cupertino who enjoy making similar headlines. Because cash investors and managers get (including tax) billions and rub their bellies and their staff can produce under unhealthy and inhumane conditions your smartphone.
Also HTC is in conflict, because the displays were produced by a company, where children shall work without earning money. Questions about these problems were not answered. HTC says, they don´t know something about the produce conditions.
A boycott of these companies would be decent, rather than ride on the "hip" wave, if they don´t change their politic.
For an emerging company that starts in the new markets, there are such companies guidance how it should (not) run, if they want to be successful.
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As much as I agree that inhuman working conditions are not good, everyone does it. Let's take an example: I start a company and I want to make smartphones, but I want them to be made in good, healthy, human conditions. That would easily cost me double the production price compared to other manufacturers. As a result, my model to compete with the Lumia 800 would cost around €800 to €1000 (compared to the €400-500 for a Lumia). What would happen? Nobody would buy it, because they get almost the same for half the price if they buy the Nokia phone.
There's only one thing driving this situations: money. As long as there are no international laws to prohibit this sorts of activity, it will continue, just because otherwise your products cannot be competitive in the market.
On the other hand, if such laws would come, you would have a lot of unsatisfied customers, because we would have to pay a lot more, for the same device. Then again, it would be very important that the law is international.
It's all about the money...
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As much as I agree that inhuman working conditions are not good, everyone does it. Let's take an example: I start a company and I want to make smartphones, but I want them to be made in good, healthy, human conditions. That would easily cost me double the production price compared to other manufacturers. As a result, my model to compete with the Lumia 800 would cost around €800 to €1000 (compared to the €400-500 for a Lumia). What would happen? Nobody would buy it, because they get almost the same for half the price if they buy the Nokia phone.
There's only one thing driving this situations: money. As long as there are no international laws to prohibit this sorts of activity, it will continue, just because otherwise your products cannot be competitive in the market.
On the other hand, if such laws would come, you would have a lot of unsatisfied customers, because we would have to pay a lot more, for the same device. Then again, it would be very important that the law is international.
It's all about the money...
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I don't think that a HTC-phone would cost €1000 if they made sure that their displays wasn't produced by children without salary.
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I don't think that a HTC-phone would cost €1000 if they made sure that their displays wasn't produced by children without salary.
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True. But it's pointloss to only do it for the display. You should do it for ever single part in the phone, and don't you worry, costs will go up dramatically.
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Asus has the worst customer service I have ever encountered. I sent back my charger to Asus on Febuary 16. Not only was I told it would be a 14 business day turnaround, but I was also told I had to send in the cord as well. After about 20 calls to Asus, speaking to numerous supervisors, being told they had no idea where my charger was and I had to just wait, I finally recieved a tracking number a few days ago. I was beyond excitement when I heard the knock from FedEx today. I opened the box up and what do I see? A plain charger, no cord, no outlet plug adapter. NOTHING. What am I suppose to do with just the plain charger without anywhere to plug it in. Every time you call asus they tell you they have to contact another department and someone will contact be back. Which no one ever does. They also say that contact takes up to 48 hours. I just stayed on hold for a supervisor 20 minutes which never came on the phone. I'm at my witts end on what else I could do. Needless to say I will probably never buy Asus again. This is completely unacceptable. If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it.
Throw it in the trash and buy an ipad. Then you can swap it out at an apple store if there is a problem or buy any number of third party accessories to charge your device.
Although a great suggestion, I would like to keep this one and not spend another $500
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Although a great suggestion, I would like to keep this one and not spend another $500
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Not exactly positive.. but.. this should work with Transformer Prime.
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i honestly wish i had never sold my A500 for this tablet. i can't unload it without selling it at a significant loss. my gps still doesn't work despite asus having it for 21 days, 6 days after it came to me on dec21 ( yes i was one of the Neanderthals that thought this tablet was worth preordering for). i will NEVER buy another asus product again. I'm stuck with this tablet for at least 6 more months before I can think of getting a new one.
Found a different number which I assumed is some sort of corporate office. The nicest guy I've spoken to in this whole ordeal. He is overnighting me the parts I'm missing. Hopefully I will receive it tomorrow or the day after. Thanks
Great its resolved. Thats why I insert photos (time/date stamped) of what condition the items are and everything included, I also make sure all the components going in the package are checked off on the RMA request. Then I take a video of me wrapping all the items, packaging, and finally closing the package in case i need to resort to it.
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Great its resolved. Thats why I insert photos (time/date stamped) of what condition the items are and everything included, I also make sure all the components going in the package are checked off on the RMA request. Then I take a video of me wrapping all the items, packaging, and finally closing the package in case i need to resort to it.
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This is good advice in general, and I do it EVERY TIME I'm sending ANY product in for service, refund, exchange, or whatever. I have a horror story like this for almost every technology manufacturer or vendor I've purchased a product from over the years, including HP, Dell, Toshiba, HTC, Samsung, and some now-defunct companies that few people here would recognize.
Pretty much the only company I never have problems with in this regard is Costco, which is why I buy everything I can from them. Although, seriously, I've found ASUS to be pretty good comparatively, which just goes to show how different peoples' experiences can be and how sweeping generalizations shouldn't be made based on a relative handful of complaints.
Oh, and since Apple was mentioned in this thread, it's maybe valuable to add: yes, they provide good customer service, at least as far as getting product replaced in-store. But, one pays for that luxury, either in higher prices (MacBooks), in a locked-down environment, or at least SOMEONE pays for it (in the case of the iPhone, that would be the cost-shifting that occurs when carriers take a loss in subsidizing the iPhone). Maybe the iPad is decently priced, or maybe it's not--but even if the iPad is reasonably priced, it's because the costs are merely shifted to other Apple products. Apple couldn't make their absolutely phenomenal profits if they weren't getting the money from someone.
Wait, if you were without a charger all this time... were you not able to charge your Prime and thus not able to use it?
Sucks lol
OH and the iPad bit-- the OOW replacement cost for an iPad 3rd gen is $299 regardless of what model. iPad 2 and original, $249.
What does this mean? Apple's OOW replacement costs for iOS devices are usually posted at a 20% or more profit. That means that Apple makes at 50% profit on each sale of its devices, and an additional 20% on each OOW repair.
Apple makes plenty of money to support each product with each unit purchased. This is not including returns from AppleCare protection sales.
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Maybe the iPad is decently priced, or maybe it's not--but even if the iPad is reasonably priced, it's because the costs are merely shifted to other Apple products. Apple couldn't make their absolutely phenomenal profits if they weren't getting the money from someone.
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Shifting money from other Apple products wouldn't increase their profit. Apple makes phenomenal profits cause they do things like, sell 3million tablets in 3 days.
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Shifting money from other Apple products wouldn't increase their profit. Apple makes phenomenal profits cause they do things like, sell 3million tablets in 3 days.
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I mean, Apple can afford to sell the iPad for lower margins (if they do, and maybe they don't) because their margins are inordinately high on their other products. Of course, ultimately, that reduces overall profit margin a tiny bit (more so as more iPads are sold as a percentage of their total sales, of course) and total profits as well. But, again, Apple's margins are already so high that they can afford to take a bit of a hit--it becomes something of a rounding error on their quarterly statements. Also, Apple makes a bit of profit from iTunes and the App Store, which also helps.
The point is, anyone buying an Apple product should expect a much higher level of customer service, because they're paying for it. Kind of like buying a BMW vs. an Infiniti--I hope nobody who buys a BMW and gets the included maintenance actually thinks that maintenance is free...
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I mean, Apple can afford to sell the iPad for lower margins (if they do, and maybe they don't) because their margins are inordinately high on their other products. Of course, ultimately, that reduces overall profit margin a tiny bit (more so as more iPads are sold as a percentage of their total sales, of course) and total profits as well. But, again, Apple's margins are already so high that they can afford to take a bit of a hit--it becomes something of a rounding error on their quarterly statements. Also, Apple makes a bit of profit from iTunes and the App Store, which also helps.
The point is, anyone buying an Apple product should expect a much higher level of customer service, because they're paying for it. Kind of like buying a BMW vs. an Infiniti--I hope nobody who buys a BMW and gets the included maintenance actually thinks that maintenance is free...
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That's weird cause I paid 650 for the TFP + dock but only 500 for my iPad. You just can't match the support of physical Apple stores to call centers like ASUS. Besides, I've dealt with HP warranty a few times and they were much better than what ASUS is giving me ATM. My Prime has arrived since two weeks ago and it is not even in their system yet.
In the end, as a end user, we don't care the reason why a certain company can provide better service, we only care that one company provides better service period.
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Found a different number which I assumed is some sort of corporate office. The nicest guy I've spoken to in this whole ordeal. He is overnighting me the parts I'm missing. Hopefully I will receive it tomorrow or the day after. Thanks
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Thanks for sharing the happy ending.
It's nice to know that Asus operates an environment where its employees have the latitude to be helpful if that's their nature. Perhaps the first group you talked to was an outsourced support center...
One thing I've learned is to always ask for a supervisor, and then their supervisor if you're unsatisfied. You need to get to a level where you can get their FULL name, not just a badge number. If they won't give you their full name and their direct number, you've not gone high enough. The real key here is to remain FRIENDLY, CALM, FIRM. If you start getting hot, you'll get nowhere.
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Thanks for sharing the happy ending.
It's nice to know that Asus operates an environment where its employees have the latitude to be helpful if that's their nature. Perhaps the first group you talked to was an outsourced support center...
One thing I've learned is to always ask for a supervisor, and then their supervisor if you're unsatisfied. You need to get to a level where you can get their FULL name, not just a badge number. If they won't give you their full name and their direct number, you've not gone high enough. The real key here is to remain FRIENDLY, CALM, FIRM. If you start getting hot, you'll get nowhere.
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Unfortunately I believe the key point in your statement is the outsourced call center. I believe this is exactly where my call would get forwarded. Unfortunately no matter how calm, friendly, firm, or insistent that i knew it wasn't the reps fault but i just needed help, none was given. I was even insulted at one point by a general rep saying I wasn't paying attention and wasn't listening because he told me his computer listed the charger as not received by the facility, and that meant they didn't have it. So when I inquired where it was if FedEx marked the package with information given to me by Asus was, he said I wasn't listening. I asked for a supervisor multiple times and more than half the times i was placed on hold for 20 minutes, told I would be called back and I am still waiting for the phone calls back. The few I did speak to said they were the highest up. Fortunately the last number I called, which was a USA number, not 1800 I spoke to someone who not only had an American accent (not trying to come off racist) but was extremely helpful. Promised he would over night me a charger over night and it was waiting for me today at my doorstep. I will call the same number tomorrow and hopefully find the same helpful individual and personally thank him. The general customer service from Asus was horrible beyond belief, but at the very least there is at least 1 person somewhere that was helpful and to him I thank.
Sorry for the long read.
The Nexus 4 costs a mere $299 and the Nexus 7 tablet only $199. Many analysts think Google is heavily subsidizing these products, selling them at break-even or even losing money (to an extent, that may depend on some cost-accounting assumptions--suffice it to say, they aren't believed to be profiting from the hardware sales).
My question is--will this pricing be sustained? I care both for theoretical reasons--it's just an interesting question--and personal reasons--I am going to switch to T-Mobile's Value Plan, which offers cheaper rates in exchange for eliminating hardware subsidies.
Thanks for your opinions.
Yes for me yes
I've seen an article like 3 months ago where some chinese company made a 4,7 inch phone with such specs that it could beat the Galaxy S3 and the price.....only 199 US dollars. =)
Samsung, Sony, HTC and every other major OEMs OVERCHARGE their products. $ $
But in my opinion yes Google will stay with the prices as their goal is to make phone affordable yet powerful.
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The Nexus 4 costs a mere $299 and the Nexus 7 tablet only $199. Many analysts think Google is heavily subsidizing these products, selling them at break-even or even losing money (to an extent, that may depend on some cost-accounting assumptions--suffice it to say, they aren't believed to be profiting from the hardware sales).
My question is--will this pricing be sustained? I care both for theoretical reasons--it's just an interesting question--and personal reasons--I am going to switch to T-Mobile's Value Plan, which offers cheaper rates in exchange for eliminating hardware subsidies.
Thanks for your opinions.
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dont forget that google's gains from ads, searches, datamining, play store sales and in-app sales and ads.
they dont really need any hardware revenues, they got into phones and tablet sales just to shock the market which (mostly for tablet) was growing stale and lazy.
I'm pretty sure they don't make a loss.. they might be making a slight profit in their hardware but the main profit comes in the software
Updated Thoughts on Nexus Pricing, Ref Moto X
Most of the predictions and pundits said the Moto X would be very affordable off-contract, perhaps even below the (very impressive) $299 price point of the Nexus 4. What a bust that turned out to be. The announcement didn't even talk about off-contract, then later in the day it came out that off-contract will be typical high-end pricing.
But while disappointed, I'm not really that surprised. I've had my doubts about whether Google will continue low Nexus pricing. It would seem to cause a lot of relationship conflict, with carriers (in U.S.) but especially with manufacturers. The handset makers are, understandably, touchy enough about Google owning Motorola. Having Motorola become the disruptive, low-cost competitor would only fan the flames. Thus, not surprised that the Moto X doesn't impress on price.
So back to Nexus. There are those who believe the Moto X is the Nexus 5...meaning there is no real Nexus planned for this year. If that proves true, it reinforces the point. I also predict a phased rise in the price of Nexuses when they do come out. The next one, whenever it comes out, will be $375-$400 for the low memory configuration. Then the next one will increase by another $75-100, at which point they will have reached their equilibrium price. Also, there may not be a Nexus device every year--only when Google has a reason for releasing one.
I really hope I am wrong. A few months ago I switched to Tmo's new "un-carrier" plan. We have data for a family of 5 for $120/month (the kids have to make do with 500 Mb, which really isn't that bad). Depending how often you buy new phones, and whether you get BOGOs, etc, it is about break-even
at full retail pricing. But if you can get Nexuses for $299, it offers very compelling savings.
(P.S. Yes, I do understand Google makes money off ads, not devices, and if they really wanted to, they could sustain low Nexus pricing forever. I didn't mean sustainable in the pure profit margin sense, I meant it in the marketing and partner relationships sense. )
Simple answer: yes!
But: there is always a "but"
Unless you're into tech and knows the product offering then this will be a steal, however for 90% of the consumer shopping for a phone looks at features which they never use. Samsung, HTC, Sony etc. All can charge $600 because they have justify their developer team also the money spent on marketing.
Sammy has Touchwiz, HTC has Sense, etc. which try to differentiate then self from other manufacturers. Nexus products were intended for developers however Google saw the potential of gaining market share from Apple and jumped on the opportunity.
Unless other manufacturers pressure Google to change their price point we will continue to receive great products at low cost and for that thank you Google.
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How in the Holy Hellz is Samsung getting a free pass on the Note 7 debacle?? I even see mainstream Android pundits saying they did about the best they could. That's horseradish. Does anyone else notice how this is being kind of swept under the rug...and quickly too, so they can move on to the Next Big Thing???
Samsung is only offering 100 dollars to people who buy another Samsung phone. The only Samsung phone that is even remotely close to the Note 7 is the S7. So Samsung is trying to entice its customers to buy a phone that is about to iterate in 2-3 months.
What of customers that traded their phones? Many did so comfortable in the knowledge they had a new, functioning phone. Now they have nothing if they choose a straight up refund. Nobody can really "refund the transaction," because to truly redo the transaction they would need the traded phone back...(I was okay with giving up my Note-4 for 40 dollars as long as it was going toward a brand new Note 7. I am not okay with just giving up my phone for 40 bucks and now having nothing but crappy choices).
At best, users came in looking for an upgrade, only to loose everything. Many had to go back to their original phones (if they still have them), and eat the costs of any accessories over 25 dollars.
At a minimum, Samsung should give users a substantial credit toward the next new Samsung phone that is coming very soon.
You're lucky. Here in the UK we've been offered sweet FA.
Well not strictly true, we've been offered a S7 or S7 Edge and a refund on the difference or a chance to cancel the contract free of charge.
Can't really complain. Already got full refund. Also got 2 gear fit2 out of this. They said they'd refund note7 specific accessories, too.
It's going to cost Samsung $30-50 billion dollars - that's BILLION WITH A B - before all this is finally resolved. It will probably hurt them drastically for the next 12 to 18 months so, no, they're not getting a free pass over this.
They're paying for it, substantially.
I really don't care what it's costing them, as a consumer who feels pretty burned (sorry) I don't see why I should. They wasted a lot of our time and in some cases money for a product they apparently didn't test enough.
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There's no reward without risk - in today's world, everything is a risk, absolute consumer safety is 100% impossible and they do the best they can given the situation at hand. iPhones have caught on fire and exploded also, lest people keep forgetting that. Other brands and manufacturers have had issues with their products of various kinds as well.
You can't test for the random events that happen, the world is just too damned complex for that and small compact incredibly complicated electronics technology just takes that to levels magnitudes greater further making it effectively impossible to be able to predict what will actually happen in any given situation.
Two Note 7 devices rolling off the assembly line one right after the other are not identical, none of them are to be honest, when you really break it down.
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There's a tone in the past few posts I've read where people sound like they're still negotiating. The Note7's over. Talking about what Samsung should have or could have done is pointless. They've lost billions and trashed their brand image. Some people will stay with them (I did) some people won't. It would be a good idea to do something special for previous Note7 owners when the next generation of Galaxy's are released but I wouldn't count on it. Just like I wouldn't count on getting anything anyone hasn't gotten in the mean time. In the U.S. they had always been offering a $25 carrier credit for people that exchanged or returned their Note7's. They upped it by another $75 if the phone people exchanged in to was a Samsung phone. And that as they say is that.
In the warranty it describes the procedure for disputes and claims. Unless you request an opt out, YOU WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO A JURY TRIAL AS WELL AS PARTICIPATING IN ANY CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS. "Neither you, nor any customer, can be a class representative, class member, or otherwise participate in a class, consolidated, or representative proceeding without having completed the opt out requirements above."
Seriously you all, in light of all of the boot-loop issues, this is very important as if you do not opt out of this agreement then you will HAVE NO LEGAL STANDING IN A COURT OF LAW
So... what are the opt-out requirements?
But if you opt out you don't have a warranty?
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Opt Out. You may opt out of this dispute resolution procedure. If you opt out, neither you nor LG can require the other to participate in an arbitration proceeding. To opt out, you must send notice to LG no later than 30 calendar days from the date of the first consumer purchaser's purchase of the product by either: (i) sending an e-mail to [email protected], with the subject line: "Arbitration Opt Out" or (ii) calling 1-800-980-2973. You must include in the opt out e-mail or provide by telephone: (a) your name and address; (b) the date on which the product was purchased; (c) the product model name or model number; and (d) the IMEI or MEID or Serial Number, as applicable (the IMEI or MEID or Serial Number can be found (i) on the product box; (ii) on a label on the back of the product beneath the battery, if the battery is removable; or (iii) from the settings menu via the following path: Settings > General > About phone > Status). You may only opt out of the dispute resolution procedure in the manner described above (that is, by e-mail or telephone); no other form of notice will be effective to opt out of this dispute resolution procedure. Opting out of this dispute resolution procedure will not affect the coverage of the Limited Warranty in any way, and you will continue to enjoy the full benefits of the Limited Warranty. If you keep this product and do not opt out, then you accept all terms and conditions of the arbitration provision described above.
I'll admit it, worst case scenario I'll send them a few emails and ring them a dozen times. But I'm not going to court over a phone.
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I'll admit it, worst case scenario I'll send them a few emails and ring them a dozen times. But I'm not going to court over a phone.
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I have to agree here as well.... This will be due to the G4 and G5 law suits people have been taking out against Lg in the last 12 month.. I bet its Samsung fanbois trying to kick LG to the curb because they know the S8 is just an S7 edge with a bezel-less screen.. and theyre upset
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I have to agree here as well.... This will be due to the G4 and G5 law suits people have been taking out against Lg in the last 12 month.. I bet its Samsung fanbois trying to kick LG to the curb because they know the S8 is just an S7 edge with a bezel-less screen.. and theyre upset
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:laugh: but oooh it has a curvy screen! It's a nice phone but I got too good of a deal on the G6 to turn it down. Plus I'm already seeing S8's everywhere.
Meh. If the phone goes kerflooey and I don't get treated right, I wouldn't mind arbitration at all. It's a pretty fair process.
Generally, those class action lawsuits tend to get tied up for years and years before the consumer sees any benefit, as the lawyers wring every last legal fee they possibly can.
Bought a 2013 Kia soul in 2012. Class action suit filed for mileage misstatement. Kia settled right up that year, and all the owners were to get 600 bucks. Then, it got held up over all kinds of issues, blah, blah... then last year, a totally new law firm filed an objection and extensive appeal to the fairness of the first settlement, and will now proceed to rake it for legal fees again for the next few years into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Meantime, the folks who these lawyers say they are fighting for might get 25 more bucks at the end. Maybe.
Bought the car 5 years ago. Kia settled 4 years ago. Lawyers will milk that cow til 2020 or longer if they can. Same thing probably will happen with the bootloop stuff, where you'll get 60 dollars from LG in 2025.
I'd arbitrate any day over doing that, and go home with a new phone or a substantial credit on the next phone, etc., and be light years ahead.
Your mileage may vary
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How serious is it? Is that source reliable?
Seems legit. There are more sources that sustain this fact . In the second link you can listen Trump's speech about Huawei.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidp...-s-companies-can-sell-to-huawei/#67e34b2f1e21
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...de-tariffs-xi-jinping-g20-japan-a8980181.html
As expected once the trade negotiations are made suddenly the global security threat is forgotten.
Sounds like Trump may also understand how it affects American companies supplying Huawei at last.
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As expected once the trade negotiations are made suddenly the global security threat is forgotten.
Sounds like Trump may also understand how it affects American companies supplying Huawei at last.
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On June 29, 2019, US President Donald Trump confirmed what could only be speculative: Huawei is the pawn he can ingest to see how China reacts. Americans have two words for this: "bargain chip".
"US companies can sell their equipment to Huawei. There is no big problem, national emergency. It's okay, we'll continue to sell products. American companies were not happy when they found out that they could not sell anymore to Huawei. '', said Trump earlier today. The disagreements between China and America have been summed up as "tariff war". The dispute is on what rates countries practice in their economic relations. Trump has to prove that America does not bow to others and China, well, has grown enough to say also that it does not bend.
Where this company was a danger to national security has now become "okay, we can do business with them." Sure, that no longer surprised anyone, but i think that we, the end user should not be involved in their politics.
Money makes the world go round. A good trade deal is what Trump exactly wants.
I'm surprised some people took it personal and thought this ban would be permanent and would be the end of Huawei.
Less than 1% of the P30 Pro's components originate from the US anyway and I for one was looking forward to seeing Ark OS.
These stupid companies you sell phones to will have to increase the price they buy Huawei phones now.
Ridiculous. £100?!
That was expected quite frankly. As much as this ban was going to affect Huawei, in the long run, they would've been able with their gigantic pocket, to build their own components and eventually run android without Google. But this would have a bigger impact on these American companies that was banned from working with Huawei, as when the next president was to come and lift the ban, Huawei would've been dependable by then and these companies would've been the biggest losers coming out of this.
I don't remember who it was, but one of the Democratic presidential candidates talked about this, he didn't mention Huawei, but he gave an example about soybeans, saying that if this tariffs war was to go longer, the biggest losers coming out of it will be the Americans, as China with time would have been able to find other sources to work with.
I never was worried about this, for Trump he treats this as a game, eventually it was predicted that he will back off. I saw no reason to sell my P30 Pro based on this war, nor did I lost interest in the upcoming monster in the Mate 30 Pro.
It might be a bit early to celebrate..
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/30/kudlow-huawei-has-not-received-a-general-amnesty-from-trump.html?__twitter_impression=true
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It might be a bit early to celebrate..
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/30/kudlow-huawei-has-not-received-a-general-amnesty-from-trump.html?__twitter_impression=true
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That will affect Huaweis attempt to build 5G in the US, but it looks like Qualcomm and Google as well as ARM will now be able to keep Huawei on board
Its a good thing for Android providing Huawei sticks with it
Still on the fence. But good to see the allowance return. I am really missing my huawei. I went S10+ after b&h failed to acquire.
Only thing I like about my S10+ is MST paying. Literally can pay anywhere and not require NFC to be turned on.
I feel my signal is weaker almost everywhere too. My mate 10 pro pulled 74 down and 21 up on tmo and the S10+ pulled 43 and 22. Same spot. Same sim. Both unlocked outright bought.