[Q] Motorola Photon 4G Successor Ideas?

[Q] Motorola Photon 4G Successor Ideas? - Motorola Photon 4G

So its been a year since sprint released the "Motorola Photon 4G"
Its now 2012 and the Higher standard of phones are rising higher. After looking and comparing
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...rvices/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-PHOTON-4G-US-EN
and the
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ones/ci.DROID-RAZR-MAXX-by-MOTOROLA-US-EN.alt
random
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ide+-+Black&q_sku=sku5410297#fbid=rMiMoXUcNn2
I came to what i wish the next Photon will be like. This is all just opinions please just give your ideas,thoughts, and what u want the next photon to look like.
So we all know Verizon is having fun with the 3,300 Mah battery and the sleek design of the phone. So sprint needs to step up the game with its unlimited data.
My idea of photon Q
Design should be similar but where the edges curve they should be a little more sharper.
Screen size should be 5 Inches and be made of Gorilla Glass 2
Thickness this is the hard part i had to think of when analyzing the 3 Phones above so the phone maybe 3/4 inch or less. The reason is the phone maybe come a BIT too thick but all the space provided by the 3/4 inch thick chassis will allow addition of Monstrous Internal.
Lets see ill post a Quote to rethinking my idea

CoogiMane1996 said:
So its been a year since sprint released the "Motorola Photon 4G"
Its now 2012 and the Higher standard of phones are rising higher. After looking and comparing
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...rvices/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-PHOTON-4G-US-EN
and the
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ones/ci.DROID-RAZR-MAXX-by-MOTOROLA-US-EN.alt
random
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ide+-+Black&q_sku=sku5410297#fbid=rMiMoXUcNn2
I came to what i wish the next Photon will be like. This is all just opinions please just give your ideas,thoughts, and what u want the next photon to look like.
So we all know Verizon is having fun with the 3,300 Mah battery and the sleek design of the phone. So sprint needs to step up the game with its unlimited data.
My idea of photon Q
Design should be similar but where the edges curve they should be a little more sharper.
Screen size should be 5 Inches and be made of Gorilla Glass 2
Thickness this is the hard part i had to think of when analyzing the 3 Phones above so the phone maybe 3/4 inch or less. The reason is the phone maybe come a BIT too thick but all the space provided by the 3/4 inch thick chassis will allow addition of Monstrous Internal.
Lets see ill post a Quote to rethinking my idea
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Ok i remember now im just going to slap ideas continuing from what i was talking about from the post
So Basically i want the next photon to be a major powerhouse in the MoPho Line up
So yes the only drawback of my idea is the size and weight by a small bit
5 Inch screen made of Gorilla Glass 2
Made in Q3 of 2012 so it can have Tegra 3 Processor with LTE
Different models from 16 32 64 GB
16 MP Camera
5 MP (or more) front faceing cam
Same Design just a sharpen the edges a little and color to black
Beats audio
If possible remove moto blure
KEEP the SIM SLOT (PLEASE)!!
And ill add on when i have more ideas

CoogiMane1996 said:
5 Inch screen made of Gorilla Glass 2
Made in Q3 of 2012 so it can have Tegra 3 Processor with LTE
Different models from 16 32 64 GB
16 MP Camera
5 MP (or more) front faceing cam
Same Design just a sharpen the edges a little and color to black
Beats audio
If possible remove moto blure
KEEP the SIM SLOT (PLEASE)!!
And ill add on when i have more ideas
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Here's my take on that wish list, and I'll break it down by each line:
1. Easily achievable. And I couldn't agree more.
2. If you know Motorola as well as I do, it wouldn't be able to make Q3 of this year.
3. Fair enough, though most phones (except for the iPhone... yuck) don't have multiple storage options. They leave it up to you to buy the bigger microSD. There is a $100 difference between iPhone 16GB and iPhone 32GB when you could just buy a phone with 16GB and a 16GB SD card for cheaper. If they gave it 16GB internal storage, I think that would be sufficient, though I would never have a need for more than 8GB internal.
4. Now you're just dreaming... 16MP on a phone? The photos are huge, in fact they have so much resolution that even an HDTV couldn't display them without shrinking the picture. Besides Motorola wouldn't do that anyways. Not in 2012 or even 2013. I think 8-12MP is a good ballpark range (http://www.androidauthority.com/16mp-smartphones-not-useful-yet-88406/)
5. Another dream... given the LG Thrill 4G has one, it still comes down to the fact that too much of one thing can be a bad thing. I think a more fair resolution would be 3.1MP.
6. I like a sleek phone as much as you do. Kudos to thinking of design. I think a rigid design also helps here. Something that can take a drop and brush off like nothing happened.
7. Beats audio has been successfully ported. You can flash it (if you are rooted) to any device. You can find it at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226.
8. As I'm indifferent here, I guess to me this could go either way.
9. I agree to that as well. If my contract ends, I feel that I have a damn right to go to any service I please.
Here are some of my suggestions:
Stock ICS (with USB Mass Storage enabled).
Unlocked bootloader (see, I have crazy wishful thinking too!).
2nd SD slot (useful for on-the-fly data transfer, especially being a musician).
Waterproofing (if possible, don't you think?).
GSM & CDMA capabilities.
A nice big internal antenna for good service range.
Those are just my thoughts. Sorry for bombing your thread... xD
EDIT: #7... Can be flashed to any phone running 2.3+.

Dude its ok we hit similar ideas I reviewed you suggestions and I think yeah there good to .....ill write a full reply later I can't see your suggestions cause I can only read or type on thread
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worldindo1 said:
Here's my take on that wish list, and I'll break it down by each line:
1. Easily achievable. And I couldn't agree more.
2. If you know Motorola as well as I do, it wouldn't be able to make Q3 of this year.
3. Fair enough, though most phones (except for the iPhone... yuck) don't have multiple storage options. They leave it up to you to buy the bigger microSD. There is a $100 difference between iPhone 16GB and iPhone 32GB when you could just buy a phone with 16GB and a 16GB SD card for cheaper. If they gave it 16GB internal storage, I think that would be sufficient, though I would never have a need for more than 8GB internal.
4. Now you're just dreaming... 16MP on a phone? The photos are huge, in fact they have so much resolution that even an HDTV couldn't display them without shrinking the picture. Besides Motorola wouldn't do that anyways. Not in 2012 or even 2013. I think 8-12MP is a good ballpark range (http://www.androidauthority.com/16mp-smartphones-not-useful-yet-88406/)
5. Another dream... given the LG Thrill 4G has one, it still comes down to the fact that too much of one thing can be a bad thing. I think a more fair resolution would be 3.1MP.
6. I like a sleek phone as much as you do. Kudos to thinking of design. I think a rigid design also helps here. Something that can take a drop and brush off like nothing happened.
7. Beats audio has been successfully ported. You can flash it (if you are rooted) to any device. You can find it at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226.
8. As I'm indifferent here, I guess to me this could go either way.
9. I agree to that as well. If my contract ends, I feel that I have a damn right to go to any service I please.
Here are some of my suggestions:
Stock ICS (with USB Mass Storage enabled).
Unlocked bootloader (see, I have crazy wishful thinking too!).
2nd SD slot (useful for on-the-fly data transfer, especially being a musician).
Waterproofing (if possible, don't you think?).
GSM & CDMA capabilities.
A nice big internal antenna for good service range.
Those are just my thoughts. Sorry for bombing your thread... xD
EDIT: #7... Can be flashed to any phone running 2.3+.
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1.The purpose of me saying Q3 is cause i know sprint is getting LTE
http://www.androidauthority.com/nvidia-tegra-3-plus-lte-77954/
2.The reason for 16,32,64 GB is cause if you do rooting or any other hack related stuff you may appreciate a high internal memory with a expandable MicroSD slot
3.I know i meant 12 - 8 MP and then i saw this.....(16 MP....maybe?)
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Omni...ad-Full-High-Definition-video-capture_id30469
and about having too much good i'm just trying to brainstorm an idea maybe sprint will see and think about it cause they REALLY need a good phone
4.The design was predicted and a opinion gathers from comparing the MoPho & Droid Razr MAXX to the Samsung Captivate Glide. I had a hard time thinking that part cause i can see right now you and me simple customers who have nothing but opinions that influence cant do alot. I see we're thinking of PACKING THIS BI*** with BADA***!!!! TECH!!!!! Excuse my language im 16 but am highly tech savvy. Back to what i was saying For big specs we may have to make the screen bigger and raised the the thickness a tad little then try making the edges a bit more Sharper
5.i know about the beats audio but i was thinking stock from the company lol but you got me thinking maybe this guy is right i might change that cause DR.Dre over prices his stuff and if we add that price will go up -.- (Take it off keep your f***ing beats to your self...we can just get it for free and Flash it ) Meaning lower price.
6.Who knows if your different maybe are brainstorm is being used as a idea for motorola and sprint as we speak
7.Yeah the contract ending and stuff. If they get rid of GSM ill be mad cause the purpose of me saying keep it GSM Option-able is if are contract ends we can just root and flash Radio unlocking GSM of your choice
8. OFC ICS STOCK
9.2nd Micro SD slot? Hmmm you maybe on to something i know what your talking about but how as we gonna stick 3 chips in a mega pack phone....we'll brain storm my friend. (SD+SD+SIM=3 Chips)
10.Water proofing.....due to the material of waterproofing the phone maybe more thicker Here:http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=36210_9d234b3e0831494d94c32625f8296cc2 Thats a waterproof phone and you can see its already thickish
11. Again you didnt bomb since you were the first im greatful
12.Don't you think it should have a 3,600 MAh battery that is slim and REMOVABLE
13.Finally to close up my thoughts a Keyboard and non keyboard version.
Thanks again for being the 2nd Brain in this brainstorm.

CoogiMane1996 said:
SO here's some of my re-thinking
Tegra3 with LTE
16,32,64 internal Memory
12 MP Camera
8MP Front Facing Cam
Beats Audio (Debate Able)
3,600 Mah Battery Removable
GSM SIM Slot
Latest Android Software
MicroSD Slot
Powerful Exterior (WaterProof,ShockProof,ETC)
2 GB of RAM
Get Rid of Kick Stand so space for real hardware is usable
Gorilla Glass 2 with 5" Screen
Keyboard and Non - Keyboard Version
Made in Q3 cause around that time most of the best phones have been
unveiled
Slight Design Change
Upgraded Sound isolating Hardware
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not sure about 8MP front camera, I think 2MP is enough for videotalks!
the battery - best idea is to have 2 versions like razr and razr maxx: one will be thin with ~2000mAh, second will be bigger, but with 3600mAh. So, people can choose which version they want to use, because now I found that we have 90% crap extended batteries out the market.

olegfusion said:
not sure about 8MP front camera, I think 2MP is enough for videotalks!
the battery - best idea is to have 2 versions like razr and razr maxx: one will be thin with ~2000mAh, second will be bigger, but with 3600mAh. So, people can choose which version they want to use, because now I found that we have 90% crap extended batteries out the market.
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I got carried away on that LOL but thanks for joining PLZ continue adding ideas of what you think?

Ok so a Photo of the Rumored Phone is up now...
http://www.smartkeitai.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/sprint-motorola-photon-q-4g-lte.jpg
I need to re think specs cause of the phone's Size...

Could be waterproofed with liquipel technology. They already do it to quite a wide variety of devices. Nanopolymer thats chip resistant, adds no bulk, water resistant up to 100 feet I believe... Pretty awesome stuff! Google it.
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olegfusion said:
not sure about 8MP front camera, I think 2MP is enough for videotalks!
the battery - best idea is to have 2 versions like razr and razr maxx: one will be thin with ~2000mAh, second will be bigger, but with 3600mAh. So, people can choose which version they want to use, because now I found that we have 90% crap extended batteries out the market.
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So only #9 and #16 or the Prediction/Wishlist came true..... over time i did research and looked at Tegra Vs. Snapdragon and Snapdragon isnt half bad. Well due to this path they choose i think ill stick with the SSGS3 :good:

I would only go for galaxy NEXUS or Galaxy S3.

Photon q
Its official! the photon 4g lte is here! and it looks promising!

Except it has a damn keyboard lol, Cant stand that
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[Q] RAZR, Nexus or Vigor/Rezound?

My upgrade is up, as I'm sure other Eris owners are as well. Just wondering where all the Eris owners are going? I jumped ship to a used Incredible this summer. It's a great phone, but the forums and developers aren't the same as the Eris. There are virtually no AOSP developers(except condemned), like all the great ones on the Eris.
What do you guys think? RAZR, NExus or Rezound.(still a terrible name HTC)

Nexus here I come

If I weren't looking to dev, I would definitely get the Galaxy Nexus. The decision becomes more complicated for me though as I feel working on a Nexus device won't be as challenging, needed, or fun to work with. Since it will already be pure android and get updates quickly, many people don't need and won't use custom ROMs. The things I enjoy most about Android development has been figuring stuff out, improving on the stock experience, and sharing what I've done with others that find it useful. That's why I have yet to decide between the Galaxy Nexus and the Vigor/Rezound. I know either phone will be great so I can't really lose either way. The RAZR was out of the running once I heard it would have a locked bootloader.

I'm thinking vigor for myself..... Or whatever they end up calling it. Hopefully not rezound though. That's rather gay imo
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I'm heading to the nexus, updates from google and Samsung has been great on build quality lately
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After getting a Bionic, I spent 12 days frustrated with dropped data and battery life (which seems to be problematic with all of the 4G phones. Also, it was dropping 3G even when I had it set to CDMA only. Frustrating.) I also thought it was a little too big.
So, I went with a Droid 3. It's a solid, fast 3G phone, great size (a little thicker than I'd like, but it's actually the same as the Eris), and I can give the OEMs and VZW 20 months to perfect LTE. (I also wanted a phone with a solid radio, so I was staying away from HTC. Hopefully the Rezound will be better, though.)
I hope that this fascination with slabs that don't fit in your pocket is a temporary fad and the Nexus is the last phone that silly big.

MongooseHelix said:
The RAZR was out of the running once I heard it would have a locked bootloader.
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but haven't they already unlocked the bionic bootloader... not long after it's release?
i like the razr, just wish i didn't have to wait till january to upgrade

neederishelp said:
but haven't they already unlocked the bionic bootloader... not long after it's release?
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No, it's still locked.

Nexus for me :3. I just need to do a once over in the store when I can before I am totally set. I'm glad it was Rooted (or at least temp-rooted) today as I adopted the Eris early on and flash the 2.1 RUU only to be stuck without a root for months…traumatizing. That is also why I won't play the Motorola locked bootloader game. And I really don't want another skinned phone, just CM7 (or 8 I guess it will be).
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I'm thinking a Fascinate since I don't have money and it's been free at BestBuy.
Yeah it's EOL, but it is still a pretty decent phone.
They had the Pantech Breakout for $29 but it doesn't have a flash.

Stonent said:
I'm thinking a Fascinate since I don't have money and it's been free at BestBuy.
Yeah it's EOL, but it is still a pretty decent phone.
They had the Pantech Breakout for $29 but it doesn't have a flash.
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Dinc2 is free on tigerdirect.com and Tb is $39
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Yeah those are new-line prices. The TB isn't that cheap on an upgrade.
I made a spreadsheet of all the phones I've looked at that are free plus added the droid charge for comparison.
The list was:
Breakout - Good: LTE, 720P, Bad: Low memory (256+8GB), standard LCD, 5MP cam
Stratosphere - Good: LTE, Keyboard, SAMOLED BAD: 5MP, 480P, Low memory (4GB+4GB)
Revolution -Great: 4.3", Mem (16+16) Good: 480x800, 720P, LTE Bad: 5MP
Charge - Great - 4.3", Mem (2+32), SAMOLED+, LTE BAD: Not free
DX2 - Great - 4.3", 540x960, Dual Core Tegra 2 Good: (8+8), 8mp, 720p, Bad: no 4g
Dinc2 - Bad: Low internal memory, no LTE, 5MP Good: 16GB sd,
GzOne - Bad: low memory, 800Mhz cpu - (eliminated)
Droid Pro - Bad: Low resolution, Low memory (eliminated)
Continuum - Bad: Small screen, low memory, no 4g
Droid R2-D2 - Good: Keyboard, 480x854 Bad: no LTE, small SD (8gb)
Fascinate - Good: SAMOLED, 16BG sd Bad: no lte, low mem (2gb), 5MP
On the spreadsheet, teal means above and beyond, and pink means below what I want, but not yet a deal breaker. Green means what I want, and red is a dealbreaker. Yellow is a base line.
When I mean free, it means between Wirefly and Tigerdirect or some other place. (the revolution is .01 so I call that free)
The fascinate starts to look a little less desireable now.
It is looking more like it is down to the stratosphere, DX2, and revolution.
The Revolution seems to be the best free 4G phone and most memory, but the DX2 seems to blow it away in every other respect. I've sort of wanted a keyboard so the stratosphere is still in the running despite the other down sides (smaller memory)

Stonent said:
Yeah those are new-line prices. The TB isn't that cheap on an upgrade.
I made a spreadsheet of all the phones I've looked at that are free plus added the droid charge for comparison.
The list was:
Breakout - Good: LTE, 720P, Bad: Low memory (256+8GB), standard LCD, 5MP cam
Stratosphere - Good: LTE, Keyboard, SAMOLED BAD: 5MP, 480P, Low memory (4GB+4GB)
Revolution -Great: 4.3", Mem (16+16) Good: 480x800, 720P, LTE Bad: 5MP
Charge - Great - 4.3", Mem (2+32), SAMOLED+, LTE BAD: Not free
DX2 - Great - 4.3", 540x960, Dual Core Tegra 2 Good: (8+8), 8mp, 720p, Bad: no 4g
Dinc2 - Bad: Low internal memory, no LTE, 5MP Good: 16GB sd,
GzOne - Bad: low memory, 800Mhz cpu - (eliminated)
Droid Pro - Bad: Low resolution, Low memory (eliminated)
Continuum - Bad: Small screen, low memory, no 4g
Droid R2-D2 - Good: Keyboard, 480x854 Bad: no LTE, small SD (8gb)
Fascinate - Good: SAMOLED, 16BG sd Bad: no lte, low mem (2gb), 5MP
On the spreadsheet, teal means above and beyond, and pink means below what I want, but not yet a deal breaker. Green means what I want, and red is a dealbreaker. Yellow is a base line.
When I mean free, it means between Wirefly and Tigerdirect or some other place. (the revolution is .01 so I call that free)
The fascinate starts to look a little less desireable now.
It is looking more like it is down to the stratosphere, DX2, and revolution.
The Revolution seems to be the best free 4G phone and most memory, but the DX2 seems to blow it away in every other respect. I've sort of wanted a keyboard so the stratosphere is still in the running despite the other down sides (smaller memory)
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Not accurate whatsoever. The Droid Incredible 2 has an 8mp camera, and has plenty of internal memory for the average user, or even someone with several apps.
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I jumped to att and got the Samsung galaxy s2. Best phone out there, plus tons of Dev support, since it is Samsung's flagship phone and it's similar to the international versions. Incredible battery life too.
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Well, after the wonderful spreadsheets, a trip to Big Red and a look at the RAZR, ReZound, Tbolt, Charge, and Revolution I just bought a Bionic via Amazon.
It fits my current needs and I believe a great middle of the road choice. My brother has had one since day one and after a growing pain or two, loves his. LOL! At 62+ and retired, I am finally to a point I need reading glasses. The screen/font on the ERIS just got too small Yeah I know I can make it bigger but then I'm scrolling all over the place. I refuse to wear the glasses dangling around my neck. It's a PIA!
RAZR - Pricey, didn't care for the BS the salesman was touting about the non-replaceable battery. Who decides when the battery isn't lasting long enough
ReZound - I'm not a big "Sense" guy, that's one reason I rooted. The salesman even mentioned the radio.
TBolt - Too much said about the battery. Didn't feel as good as I thought it would in the store.
Charge/Stratosphere - Didn't care for the screen it was washy on both phones and in two different stores. Why is Charge stuck on FROYO?
Revolution - Unimpressive, slow and dodgy
My test, I went in to the store before the crowds hit. I insured the setup on the phones were the same tethering, hotspot and WiFi off, running on 4G. Opened maps and zoomed in on the Verizon store. Flipped the map left and right and around in a circle. Flipped through the apps, sent a text message to my wife then called her on each phone toggling the speaker. There was more. Anywho, when the day was done the Bionic won. It is a big sucker, but I'll adapt. Good luck to all on your choices!
Since a good deal of you that I need to say Thanks to are in or may yet view this thread....THANKS!....thanks for keeping the "Little Phone That Could" alive for me. You all taught me a lot and it has been an exciting ride ever since I first "rooted". The best to you all and I hope to be following a thread or two on the Bionic side.
Be well ERIS,
Decon

rezound for me can't handle such a small amount of internal space
Currently on an eris.

Waiting for the Nexus
I will be getting one of the following phones, Nexus, Razr or Rezound. I've played with the Rezound and Razr a little at the Verizon store but have yet to get my hands on the Nexus. I'll have to make my choice whenever they have it in the stores. For me it is between the Razr and Nexus.

Now this is more like it....HTC next for a google device

http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...e-to-be-selected-for-jelly-bean-nexus-device/
I will be all ears looking out for rumors of this if it turns out to be true. Im not high on a galaxy device at all. But if this comes to fruition and HTC steps up to the plate, I would definately be all over this. Possibly S5 processor, LTE and Jelly bean?? I would use one of my upgrades for this for sure.
BTW....notice how HTC states they will be upgrading current devices to Sense 3.6...What happened to Sense 4.0?

sign me up
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swaze said:
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...e-to-be-selected-for-jelly-bean-nexus-device/
I will be all ears looking out for rumors of this if it turns out to be true. Im not high on a galaxy device at all. But if this comes to fruition and HTC steps up to the plate, I would definately be all over this. Possibly S5 processor, LTE and Jelly bean?? I would use one of my upgrades for this for sure.
BTW....notice how HTC states they will be upgrading current devices to Sense 3.6...What happened to Sense 4.0?
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current devices do NOT have the hardware spec for Sense 4.0 features. the lack of the f2.0 camera lens, and the dedicated ImageChip to work with "imageSense" and improve the camera as drastically as they did were 90% of the selling point of Sense4.0...
makes sense(no pun intended) to be honest and you can't fault them for the decision.
BUT a HTC Nexus device would be cool for sure.....can we get a little Nexus SD card love please? lol

I would take this rumor with a grain of salt. Considering Google recently purchased Motorola Mobility.

sgt. slaughter said:
current devices do NOT have the hardware spec for Sense 4.0 features. the lack of the f2.0 camera lens, and the dedicated ImageChip to work with "imageSense" and improve the camera as drastically as they did were 90% of the selling point of Sense4.0...
makes sense(no pun intended) to be honest and you can't fault them for the decision.
BUT a HTC Nexus device would be cool for sure.....can we get a little Nexus SD card love please? lol
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That is a must. And I would take 2GB of RAM also.
@xplicit815
They said Motorola is a totally seperate company and get no special treatment involving the nexus. Think locked bootloader...Not happening.
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/new...la-acquisition-wants-nothing-to-do-with-moto/

no thanks, HTC already dropped the ball with the One X. Time to jump ship to a real phone, GS3.

bloodrain954 said:
no thanks, HTC already dropped the ball with the One X. Time to jump ship to a real phone, GS3.
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ha ur crazy. only thing they could of done different was make the screen even bigger, and add SD card access.
how did they "drop the ball?"
I consider "dropping the ball" something like the kyocera echo gimmick device Sprint spent time on having its own event for.

bloodrain954 said:
no thanks, HTC already dropped the ball with the One X. Time to jump ship to a real phone, GS3.
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What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?

bagelicious said:
What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?
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Because, someone can actually spend additional money on a 32GB SD card for their low-end device, while their higher-end device comes equipped with that amount of memory already.

bagelicious said:
What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?
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The One V is coming with 512MB and it makes sense if you have too many apps installed to have an sdcard so you can use A2SD and save memory.

bagelicious said:
What's really strange is that according to Android Central, the HTC One V will have a microSD card slot. Why would they put this in their low offering but not the higher one?
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While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."

nickmgray said:
While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."
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That sounds like an iphone owner.

No, it sounds like a general consumer who has never purchased a smartphone in their life. We have to remember that Android is taking over the world and most people buying these phones are upgrading from flip phones. These people have a hard time buying a new computer or choosing which iPod is right for them. Show them a selection of smartphones and they simply buy what the store sales rep says is the best option for them.

At the rate HTC is going now is that even a good thing?
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ha ur crazy. only thing they could of done different was make the screen even bigger, and add SD card access.
how did they "drop the ball?"
I consider "dropping the ball" something like the kyocera echo gimmick device Sprint spent time on having its own event for.
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Uh how about adding a bigger battery to improve their phones ****ty battery life?

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At the rate HTC is going now is that even a good thing?
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Uh how about adding a bigger battery to improve their phones ****ty battery life?
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Looks like they have gone up to 1800 mah and used lipoly not Li ion, my EVO 3d lasts a fair while even with good daily use, no custom kernel or Rom. I use WiFi 3g, music and have sync on 4 hour interval for everything. I'm pretty happy with my battery life to b honest. Miles better then my old dhd n e way
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While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."
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what it comes down to is 1 thing. COST to HTC. If they can offer more on board memory and the price of having the SD is more than the extra onboard then its clear what way they are going to go with to achieve a "minimum" amount of memory for the phone...

Well this is weird... LG was "rumoured" to be next google device. Hmm.. perhaps there is some mighty trolling on the go?

nickmgray said:
While we in the development forums may thing of an sd card is a "must-have" feature, the general public could care less. The public cares more about 16/32 GB of storage than the ability to have up to 32 GB of removable storage.
Typical consumer conversation with sales rep:
"How much memory does this phone have?"
"It comes with a 2GB card. But we can sell you another card which has 32GB for an extra $70"
"How about this other one?"
"It's got 16/32 Gb built in."
"Wow, that's a lot more! I'll take the one with more storage."
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That's short sighted and somewhat dependent on the demographic you are referring to as "typical consumer"...
My wife - just wants the phone to deliver her email, texts and phone calls and may not even know the Android Market exists.
My teenager - complains that she's out of storage space with all the music, movies, apps, wallpapers etc. I'm actually buying her a 32GB card so she can lose her iPod and just use a single device.
And me - i'm my teenager plus a flashaholic so these things are important.
Yes...there's google music but they haven't quite ironed out how my family can share my music like i can with my ipods so local storage is important (oh yeah..I also have sprint with **** network where i live so downloading is a house of horrors).
And anybody who thinks that an 1800ma battery is gonna suffice when you fire up some LTE is smokin crack.

I'm about done with HTC. Still upset about the s-off situation on my Evo 3D.
As for what they could have better on the One X...
S-off without needed to use their stupid tool.
Removable battery.
SD slot.
Add a kickstand.
Charging port on the bottom so you can use the kickstand (or case with one) while charging.
No buttons.
Did you guys see the rumored specs for the Galaxy S 3? Totally blows the HTC One X out of the water. And it will have s-off on day 1 too.

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That's short sighted and somewhat dependent on the demographic you are referring to as "typical consumer"...
My wife - just wants the phone to deliver her email, texts and phone calls and may not even know the Android Market exists.
My teenager - complains that she's out of storage space with all the music, movies, apps, wallpapers etc. I'm actually buying her a 32GB card so she can lose her iPod and just use a single device.
And me - i'm my teenager plus a flashaholic so these things are important.
Yes...there's google music but they haven't quite ironed out how my family can share my music like i can with my ipods so local storage is important (oh yeah..I also have sprint with **** network where i live so downloading is a house of horrors).
And anybody who thinks that an 1800ma battery is gonna suffice when you fire up some LTE is smokin crack.
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haha i had to read this twice here. lol
saw you say "my wife....my teenager..." and then thought i read "and me- im A teenager..." totally lost there shaking my head wtf is this guy a teenager, married, and has a teenager kid too? wtf is going on. lol haha

HTC evo 4g lte or sgs3

Which would you buy and which do you think will offer more roms. I'm available for an upgrade now.
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I had the same choice yesterday . I honestly picked the S3, HTC's UI gets boring and old after a while and i have an HTC phone right now. I wanna try something new and that 2gigs of ram is hard to pass on.

That's what I was thinking plus the larger screen is an added bonus on the s3.
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I wouldn't want to miss my 64gb microsd and an exchangable/extendable battery. So I'd go for a SIII. What a shame that HTC removed both.

Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
~Freshly re-acquired evo rockin' NRGZ; from the mogul up ta present, but then AOKP happened. P.S. f**k the police....

Both phones are very good. If you are on sprint then its a given, just go with the evo. If your not then you have more room to play. However I would recommend the evo over the Samsung GS3. First Sprint gives true unlimited data and already has the evo, not the GS3. Giving props to the GS3 for the slightly bigger screen is a no-no. It is only a tenth of an inch bigger. Besides the bigger the screen, the more cpu/gpu power used. Speaking of that the evo has a snap dragon krait @ 1.5 GHZ dual core while the Exnos is @ 1.4 GHZ dual core. The Krait is a fairly popular CPU and is extreamly fast and responsive for its generation. It also in many other devices with have a large development behind them, therefore the CPU will be better tuned and potently have a higher overclock the the exnos. If you are concerned about ram, why should you be? The evo can easily run all applications that can be thrown at it including games. For the record virtual ram is available now.... (ya it wont be as fast enitialy, but what if they were to mount it to the rom instead of the standard class 5 micro sd card...) And if you enjoy gameing your in luck Htc's one line is the first 3rd party company to exclusively be accepted by Sony's playstation, allowing you to be able to play some exclusive playstaion games. The evo, in my personal opinion has a far superior build quality then Samsung's cheap plastic mat finish. When it comes to Customer care, support and updates, htc will surpass samsung. There are a lot of cool new software features such as S Voice on Samsung though, although a lot of people say they are lousy, and just another selling point to compete with Apple's precious Siri app. IF you are conserned about the batterlife, the evo has a larger battery then the GS3, and even though its non removable, it last a long time. I own it and im a power user. I cant stop using it. If you look at the popular devices section you will see mainly samsung devices, although the evo is on there and shurely will reach #1 as its original, the htc evo 4g did ,witch was the #1 device for well over a year. Development will pretty much be even though, maybe the evo a little beter, having a starting chance. There is so much more info that i could talk about but im starting to ramble on and on. When it comes to picking a device I look for the best device weather it is a brand name or not and the amount of potential development it will receive. That being said I pick the evo and would recommend it as the best Smarthphone on the market to anyone looking to buy a new phone! I know this may seem very one sided, but i did my research before choosing between the two (yes these are the exact to phones i was comparing before making a final decision). I own many samsung products and am not saying the GS3 is bad, just not the best choice. Give me a thanks if I have helped anyone with this matter, and if not, be mature and do not flame me or others providing information to help the general public!
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Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
~Freshly re-acquired evo rockin' NRGZ; from the mogul up ta present, but then AOKP happened. P.S. f**k the police....
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It does have a micros sd card holder under the plastic portion under the top back of the phone that covers the camera, NFC, and all other antennas. You don't have to be tethered to a charger all day like many other smart-phones because the batter life is fantastic. Have you ever heard of Sedio? They are making a battery case for the evo right now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667613 (all thanks go to the OP!) Sense is so well optimized that you forget its even there. All of the features you loved remain. It feels like AOKP/AOSP but with the option of adding sense widgets!

Hi5josh man you need to do some research. First off they will both share the krait s4 processor that you think so highly of. Second of all the S3 has a bigger battery than the Evo LTE. Hey listen if you like the Evo LTE thats cool but dont post information unless you get it correct (no offense). One more thing honestly the whole Sony thing is a gimmick they didnt announce or show any games yet. Dont expect any ps1, or 2 games to be played on your EVO that would just defeat the purpose of the Playstation Vita. HTC will probably get some Homebrew games from third party developers through Sony. Samsung has already had a game center so not missing much there at all.

HTC picked his Side

HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad

Proz00 said:
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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Then they will fail along with Apple :good:. Oh wait.. *looks at HTC's profits*

Proz00 said:
HTC "stand with" apple against Samsung
no sd card unchangeable battery
pick one company to ship their elite produce
sound like HTC become more like Apple
and make a deal with them on patents
two giants making a war and HTC pick apple side
Very sad
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I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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djwalter said:
I was kind of thinking the same thing when final DNA specs came out. Maybe the next big thing will have a micro sd and removable battery when I'm eligible next year. If this becomes a trend I may have to get a tablet to go along with my phone down the line. Makes me appreciate my Rezound even more. Just my $.02.
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With the iPhone being the gold standard in phone design and Google's Nexus phones moving towards no external storage and non-replaceable batteries, I think the other OEMs are taking suit and following. It is a shame since I utilize two batteries (both standard) to keep me afloat when I don't have downtime to charge my Rezound around 12-2pm every day. Android/Android+UI skins and the hardware are not optimized enough to offer what the iPhone can - a 1440mAH battery and all day or longer battery life.
To OP:
I disagree with HTC picking "a side". They release phones on multiple carriers, unlike Apple's original stance with AT&T-only. A problem is the fact they are having an identity crisis at the moment. They're phones are labeled under carrier-owned franchises (DROID, EVO, etc) rather than their own (e.g.: one), although it seems like they're working on that...slowly. They're definitely the last one to the game out of the big 3, with Motorola reviving the 'RAZR' platform and Samsung running with their 'Galaxy' series. It's fragmented in a way for non-carrier branded phones, like the Thunderbolt to the Rezound to now Droid DNA. No consumer who doesn't have an interest in phones like we do will ever realize the successors and predecessors because these are all new phone names...not just a new generation (like iPhone 5 or the GS3 or even RAZR HD). They need to stick with the 'one' branding and work on only a couple of phones at a time and spread it across all carriers possible to grant the most access to consumers. Motorola tried the whole 'let's throw a bunch of phones against a wall and see which ones stick'...it didn't get them too far and then they were overwhelmed with phone updates (sound ... familiar?). Although exclusivity is excellent for the carrier, it's negative for the manufacturer...and with no manufacturer, no phone. In the US, the manufacturer needs carrier support more than the carriers need an individual manufacturer.
In reality, I think HTC realizes this mistake due to the falling bottom line and is hopefully getting plans to turn this sinking ship around. After enjoying AOSP on the OG Droid to despising MotoBlur on the DX (and going with CM7) to actually enjoying the aesthetics Sense 3.5 and now Sense 4 (seriously, the Rezound should have had an OEM upgrade to Sense 4), my phone has been rock solid since launch day, exactly one year ago today (oh shiz, my warranty expires today!). I enjoy HTC's build quality and having an OEM-supported unlockable bootloader and a community-supported S-OFF initiative and wish them the best in turning themselves around. Never have I ever been so content with a phone until I got the Rezound...and a year later, I still love this device. It does everything I want and then some.
TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.

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TL;DR - HTC needs to stick with the 'one' series and man the fudge up to the carriers.
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This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.

GrayTheWolf said:
This isn't reddit.
I am also disappointed with HTC. Only 16 GB? That's awful.
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I fail to see what's so Reddit about that post.
But I do agree that only 16GB of storage is a load of bull.

@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.

u mean more iFanboys like ?

AshtonTS said:
@OP the thing is 99% of consumers could give a **** if the phone has a removable battery/SD card. Only the techies do. HTC phones are aimed at consumers, not techies.
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With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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kyuubi08 said:
With me the deal breaker is that i can't get my music onto 16 gigabytes
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Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.

GrayTheWolf said:
Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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chrisjz said:
That's why they should come out with different models like a 16gb 32gb and a 64gb.
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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.

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I think they should just add a micro SD slot so stores don't have to carry 3 times the inventory.
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The weird thing is I saw a 32 gig sd card on ebay for the DNA. Which is weird considering no sd slot unless it's an internal sd slot like the early wp7 devices.

GrayTheWolf said:
Ashton is right.
There is only a very small percentage of people that actually care about more than 16 gigs if storage. You are one of them.
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Personally, at 11gb usable, I think this phone will have a hard time selling, especially when following the Note 2 (only reason I could see buying the DNA over the Note - price. That being said, people are picking up the Note 2, on AT&T, for $199. Yeah, the DNA has a better looking spec sheet...but, it is DEFINITELY not for me). I would buy a phablet so I would not have to carry a phone (to listen to my music) AND a 7" tablet to read/minor surfing. Still need a 10" Tablet... All that said...I love HTC products. Bought the Inspire, upgraded to the Vivid, downgraded to the Inspire again, bought the HTC Flyer tablet.
With all due respect, if so few people care about no "more than 16 gigs of storage", why did Google drop the Nexus 8 gig line? Why is their no 8 gig line? I think the people HAVE spoken by saying if you ARE going to take our storage cards away, at least give us the option to increase our storage space from the get go. My guess is, you will see other "options" available as time goes on. Also, though we are seeing more phones come available with no removable battery/no sd card, my guess is there will always be people wanting those features. As we become more and more mobile and phones become larger, we will change our viewing habits from TV at home to watching them via phone/tablet. There will be a need for larger and larger memory options. Add the clamp down on internet usage, throttling, etc., people are not going to WANT to use a cloud for their music/videos, especially as we are primarily an instant gratification society.
Today, there may only be a small percentage who care about more than 16 gigs (I would tend to disagree with that statement but anywho). Tomorrow, the numbers will grow...and grow...and grow. Apple is expecting to double the 7" tablet market every year for the next 2 years. The more I do away from my 10TB of HDD space at home, the more I am going to need when mobile.

I cant wait till I see all this blow over
Very simply said .
Google, apple and now HTC took away our SD card slots to put every thing on a cloud
Verizon took away our unlimited , even thought ATT let their old customers keep it with upgrading
The DNA takes away removable battery , so if you run out , well your not carrying a mobile any more
Then , to my surprise, this particular HTC phone (the DNA) doesent surf and talk on 3g like all HTC 4g phones . (DONT START THE ARGUMENT THAT 3G IS INCAPABLE OF IT, LOOK AT TBOLT, S3 AND REZOUND FORUMS).
to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
Where do you guys think this is going to go ? I simply can not predict an outcome, but i feel like not only are we just bending over, we just swallowed too

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to get what ? a quad core processor ( how many actually will use its full potential ) and a screen that our human eyes can not possible distinguish from 720.
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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.

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I don't know about you, but I can clearly see the pixels on the Rezound screen from over a foot away. Now it may or may not be practical to make higher-resolution screens - on the Rezound, for pixels to become a problem in reading text, the text would have to be way too small to read comfortably anyway. But a screen on which I cannot see pixels would look nicer. And I hear the DNA screen, like the One screen, also uses thinner panels or panels of a slightly different material, so colors should look better apart from the higher resolution.
About the processor, I hear it will greatly improve battery life by managing power consumption better. I don't know if any dual core processors manage battery as well as the S4, but even if the S4's full power will rarely be needed, anything that significantly improves battery life is welcome.
I would not get a device with less than 32 gb total storage, so I am hoping that when I do get another phone (probably in two or three more years, or when my Rezound dies and there is a better phone for under $100), there will be a good device with at least 32 gb.
My Rezound battery generally lasts me through the day, but when I will not have access to power for a full day or more, I carry an extra battery, so I'm fine with non-removable batteries as long as they last at least a little longer than the Rezound's.
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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good. Will the 1080 screen be nice, sure, worth buying another HTC device that will take 9 years to never see a update, not a snowballs chance in hell. HTC might could win me back as a customer if they actually start updating their devices and listen to their customers, but until then, no thanks. The rezound will be my last I believe. I damn sure am not buying a device that doesn't have a removable battery. And the only way I am giving up an SD card is if it comes with a 64 gb variant. Which it doesn't. Even apple realizes this, so this nonsense from google and HTC about not including SD slots is stupid if you won't at least give us ones with 32/64 gb internal memories.

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Ha. I don't believe you for a minute. I can see them if I put my eyes right up on the screen, but other than that they are almost indistinguishable. And even then I can't see them good.
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I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
Furthermore, I suspect you can too: one foot is quite close, and if I bring the screen closer than about eight inches, I can no longer focus my eyes on it, so one foot is close to the optimal distance for seeing pixels, and you said yourself that you can see then from some position.

Max725 said:
I normally can't see them either, but if I look at some diagonal line between contrasting colors that is not smoothed by making some pixels along the line colored between the two colors (such as the edges of the numbers in the status bar clock), I can see a distinct staircase-shaped edge.
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That's just poor anti-aliasing.

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That's just poor anti-aliasing.
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Yes, but it does make the pixels distinctly visible, and shows that at 720p, pixels are easily visible, which is all that I was saying.

Should I get this or the HTC One... Honest opinion please

I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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I had the HTC One before the S4 that I have now. All I will say is that as soon as the One drops on Verizon, I will be switching back. I test phones on a daily basis and the One is the best phone I've used to date. You won't be disappointed with either, but I prefer the One. Sense is much better than Touchwiz now IMO and the build quality and audio can't be beat. I prefer the screen on the One also
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I didn't buy the ONE (or wait for it) because of the reviews. You might like the HTC ONE based on if you want metal build, smaller screen (equals 468 ppi to 441 ppi in S4 slightly sharper text) and the BOOM sound (front facing speakers). With no SD expansion or removable battery, that was a deal killer for me. S4 has better specs and is already made for the AWS network for Verizon (faster LTE speeds). Also, HTC is by far the worst EVER of getting updates out for their phones (yes, even worse then Motorola at their worst)
for me S4 was the no brainer deal for me

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I currently have the Incredible 4G LTE Nd love but I need a bigger screen... I debated between both those phones... I know the HTC One comes out in the summer for us and the s4 will only be 16gb ... Is their a mod to put apps on the sd card since the s4 is limited... I know they coming with an update but we all know Verizon is bad with updates..
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If you will be rooting, the only thing the One would have over the S4 is BoomSound and a nicer case. Being unable to swap SD cards or batteries would bug me. If all you need is a bigger screen and you can wait, why not wait a few more months for a Note 3 or One Max?
I had an Evo 4G before the S4 (I never rooted it), so I've got nothing against HTC. HTC doesn't seem to offer (read, foist on you) the suite of apps Samsung does. Samsung seems to be trying to push their content store to compete with Google Play, so I hope future updates don't add tons of bloat related to the Samsung app store...

I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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Not a fan of HTC anymore. I had all the EVOs.

I'd take the S4 all day long over the One. Just a matter of personal preference.

Doesnt HTC take a lonnnnnnng ass time or never to release source? While Samsung does it on day 1, yea good luck with HTC and the handicapped Roms for it.

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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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The firmware update that allows apps to be moved to SD card makes your invalid argument invalid again.
I pick the S4 for the reasons stated. No expandable memory, no removable battery, HTC has garbage update schedules, and weaker specs.

But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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It all boils down to preference. Most people want good battery life and cool apps or software. I've used both and when the One releases on Verizon I will have both and use both,
... But to answer the question I will use the S4 more since the battery does last a bit longer and it can do some pretty cool stuff, but most of all I believe there will be more customization on the S4. Lord knows I am a customization fool,. Cheers!!!

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I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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This is certainly important if you do not want to root the S4. I bet there will be root apps that can redirect app installations to the SD card, if they don't already exist. And Samsung will probably get native full external card installation working eventually. Or they're going to see sales drop off as more and more people bump up against that limit, and scramble to fix it. Why they didn't do this in first place is beyond me - especially with such a small built-in card. Either they wanted to sell more of their own SD cards, they wanted an excuse to charge heaps more for just a little more memory, or Apple sued them into not doing it.
And batteries get old. It might need replacing. Sometimes.

I used to be a diehard htc fan since the original evo but after the one was put on hold, and the poor development and official htc support for the rezound, I doubt I'll go back. I will miss htc but they dropped the ball far too many times and I know it will happen again (maybe not for their current devices) even though they cannot afford to screw anything else up. So bottom line, do you want a pretty phone with nice sound and a slightly, yet not noticeably better screen? Or do you want a larger screen, insane amount of dev and Samsung support for years to come, and removable battery and storage?
Sent from my rooted S4 blessed with Cleanrom 1.2

wahoofan5 said:
I find the storage argument quite invalid. Internal storage comparison: 32gb on the One vs ~9 on the S4. I know that the S4 has expandable storage, but that only helps in terms of media (stuff that can be stored on the cloud anyways), not apps. Also, the One will no doubt be equipped with AWS technology, so that argument is invalid too if we are comparing Verizon phones. No removable battery but it makes it through a day of heavy use no problem.
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First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.

wahoofan5 said:
But that would require root, something the common user might not choose to do. And S4 users are currently unable to move apps to the SD card
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No, the update that is coming out will not require root. It's an OTA update that lets you move apps to the SD card again.

theresin said:
First of all, I apologize if it seems like we are "ganging" up on you - after all, the question at hand is a fundamental example of free choice and personal preference. With that said, I did want to make one (yet to be made) point specifically pertaining to your (above) comment on validity.
You mentioned that, in your mind, one of the factors that makes the removable storage on the S4 irrelevant is cloud storage - something that the major carriers frequently, if not enthusiastically offer up as a must-have storage solution. Cloud storage really is great, especially as their capacities increase, security strengthens, and prices drop. However there is one major, often overlooked problem with using cloud storage on your cellular device - DATA. Many (many) Verizon subscribers that have managed to hold on to unlimited data (myself) find themselves playing a game of "chicken" every time they want a new device. There's only so many tricks and hoops you can jump through to keep your unlimited data - just ask the countless hordes who've recently reached their "end of the road" in terms of unlimited data (Tip: These sad-sacks are easy to spot - just look for the gently sobbing individuals solemnly mashing their "Scan For Available WiFi Networks" button), The point is, last I checked; you need some sort of internet/data connection to peruse the "Cloud" - this is all well and fine if you're still rocking "Data God Mode", but wouldn't it make you feel a whole lot better if you knew all that cherished media you spent years collecting was ALWAYS available to you? I sleep better knowing all my Seinfeld episodes are safely at hand in my Samsung 64gb Class 10 MicroSD Card.
But all kidding aside - having to rely on cloud-based storage for your files is a great way to experience full blown anxiety and frustration first hand, believe me.
To the original poster: I'm bias. Why am I bias? Because my first-ever Android smartphone was the OG HTC Droid Incredible - after a year of countless "like-new!" replacements, I bought the Droid X and swore off HTC .... However ...Stupidly, the excitement over the HTC Thunderbolt being Verizon's first 4G device was far too tempting for me and I bought the damn thing. It took almost two whole years for HTC & Verizon to update the Thunderbolt to ICE CREAM SANDWICH, despite having been released AFTER the first ICS devices were already out. Sadly, I never got to see that wonderful update on my T'Bolt ..... you see, six months (and several rage induced ulsters) after buying my T'Bolt I threw the damn thing accidentally dropped it over the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. Too bad. Never again, HTC.
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Thunderbolt was released in March of 2011. The first ICS device was the Galaxy Nexus which was released November 2011. Does not invalidate your point, though. I was a 'bolt owner, too. It was out for about six months before viable LTE phones were releases (Rezound, Bionic), and even those were not all that great. It got truly usable when Liquid 3.2 was released for AOSP and SkyRaider Zeus was released for Sense. Those were a LONG time after the phone was released, though.
I view it as an early adopter thing, not an HTC thing. We are going to experience the same thing with AWS. Odds are this phone will suck for AWS...the hardware is too far out in front of the service release...no way there won't be issues that are patched around, etc.
S-off will really help get the dev work going on the One. I think it is a perfectly viable alternative to this phone really. Just a different flavor. I have never had a Samsung phone so for me, that was part of the appeal...something different.

if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.

YouTube benchmarks on comparisons... You may be surprised how much slower HTC one is.
If you don't like touch wiz, there's lots of options... I use nova launcher on cube mode and love it.
While many defend it, sense does eat up processor attention.
Main advantage with HTC is reading in bright sunlight, 95 percent of my reading is indoors, metal case is nice.
I like options for different batteries, external memory, better camera, better software.... To each his own but benchmarks alone mean little if those benchmarks don't depict real life use.
If you love the best camera you can get, go S4, if you listen to music through speakers then HTC, if through headphones S4 has nice equalizing software.
I personally feel real life pictures can be boring.. I like high saturation of Hd amoled screen.
The Hd mode on the camera makes a perfect picture in crappy lighting!
The S3 has up to a 7000mah battery avail, not sure what they will come up with for the S4 but I don't like bring limited. http://zerolemon.com/
Anyway, each phone is nice, but they both have things the other doesn't.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4

I own both and really like both. However, if I had to choose only one, it would be the S IV.
The main reason is battery life and how long the One takes to charge.

madsquabbles said:
if you really want screen size and don't mind the wait, the note 3 will be coming out this fall. 6" with 8 cores - though i don't think it's been confirmed. i'd like to get one, but the note 2's 5.5 inches is kinda pushing it for me, and i have preferred that the s4 to be 16:10 instead.
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Yea, that note 3 I have my eye on!
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4

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