Hey guys, anyone have advice on whether or not to use HtcDev unlock method or wait for another method? I have a protection plan through Best Buy and they don't even check to see if its been "tampered" or not if I need a replacement. I am coming from EVO 3D and had hboot v1.4 so I never needed to use the HTC method. Just curious if it is harder to flash Roms and kernels with HTC method I guess. Thanks for the help in advance and its great to see such great devs working on this great phone already.
For the 3d it was a little harder, but not sure if that's the case for the LTE. I am personally gonna wait for s-off, but there is an app that let's you flash kernels without going through fastboot. Flashimage GUI I'm sure it will have to be updated to work with the LTE if It's even needed.
Sent from my EVO LTE!!
There is no s-off right now, but there are custom recoveries that work with the HTCDev unlock. Which means, custom roms and backups.
So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
jirafabo said:
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
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When you dev unlock HTC keeps the sn of your phone on file as being unlocked, I doubt they say anything to Sprint though. Even if you relock HTC still knows. I would give it a couple weeks and see if we get s-off if not then you might want to reconsider htcs method.
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So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
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Not sure about s-off after unlock though I don't see why you couldn't, but on the 3d with the HTC unlock method you had to either fastboot into recovery through adb or use flashimage GUI to flash kernels.
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First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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Yeah I heard it was terrible on the 3D, luckily I had hboot 1.4 so I had s-off... Is it as terrible with the LTE? It seems to me that with clockworkmod recovery and htcdev unlock you are able to flash zips the same as with s-off. Don't know if I am correct on that though...
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
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I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
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Yea me too, I have already registered with the htcdev website just awaiting confirmation that I can flash zips as usual...
Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Yea thats what I seem to be reading. It seems if you just flash the ruu that it will re-lock the phone as if it was never done. Sounds great, I will try it out tonight! Thanks guys
HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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Cool Ryan thanks for the confirmation I will be rooting and unlocking tonight!
Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Flashing different radios, I believe. Can't do that without S-OFF.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Just to clarify: So unlocking via the HTC method, installing this and then un-rooting with the RUU (if necessary) won't show any evidence of 'tampering', correct?
It might not show any evedence but HTC will know, they keep track of what phones are unlocked. That's why you go through the whole process with the unlock codes.
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I dont understand what anybody cares if you register with HTC or not. I have insurance with Sprint and I have taken my phone to them to get repaired without any problems.
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I was trying to perma root my EVO 3D with the revolutioary tool but it didnt support my bootloader (HBoot 1.5). Is ther another way I can perma or at least temp root my phone?
If I'm not mistaken you have to use htc's method of unlocking your phone with the hboot you have. Its quite a few threads on this particular subject in q & a. I don't think rev supports that hboot as of yet. If you want the link here it is
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
But I strongly suggest you read the method htc provides to be sure its the route you want to take. Also you should.definitely read read read the q & a to gain a better understanding of what it is and to get users feedback and experiences. I don't personally recommend this method htc uses but I think its the only way to unlock and gain root to your phone with your particular hboot. Hope this helps.
Locked & Loaded
" Shooter on Deck "
Thank you. I have unlocked my boot loader using HTC's method and now I'm confused on how to root my phone. I'm new to this as u probably can tell. Thanks again.
You have to flash a recovery. Either twrp or clock work mod. If you choose clock work mod then you can download rom manger from the market and flash it from there. If you chose twrp the you can look Here for the latest
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Also here a guide that might help you with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Hope this helps
Locked & Loaded
" Shooter on Deck "
1.5 was an ambush ! It plugged the temp root hole, it has also jacked up installing any roms so far on mine...
Do not go near the latest 2 sprint updates !!!!
As for htc unlocker, its a peice of crap and doesnt work on about 40% of phones spring tech support mgr told me when i called to demand a defination of an error code it gives...
And they refuse to support it
sprint bastages are as bad a apple scum...
HTC method works just as well as regular unlock.. it doesn't not work with 40% of phones either. 40% of people just can't follow a simple tutorial...
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Actually jlear3 it does not ! If you read the htc unlocker page it directly tells you that evo 3d is exempt from the working unlocker pgm
With 1.5 you cant do jack ! No recovery , no temp root, no roms, nothing !!!! What part of that do you not understand....
My phone came with 1.5 and have been able to use htc unlock and flash anything I want.
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Malikione said:
My phone came with 1.5 and have been able to use htc unlock and flash anything I want.
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I agree. It's not hard to follow a tutorial. My replacement phone shipped with hboot 1.50, I was unaware that the original root method I used on my original 3D wouldn't work, which directed me to htc's unlocker. I unlocked, and was able to get TWRP recovery as well as superuser, flashed a ROM and have been pretty good so far. The only thing I'm aware you can not do is flash radios. Custom Kernel's are available via fastboot, but I haven't delved into that yet.
-Slevin
Some great news.. the evo view 4g is now officially unlockable from HTC via htcdev.com. hope to see some magic happen now
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This belongs in general.
Thx for info ThoughtHalo, the skilled dev above me (globatron) actually brought us to the dev game in HC before HTC.. That's the greatness of XDA, were always ahead of the game.
So what does this mean for us with stock GB looking to go to HC but want root?
It means now you should be able to flash a recovery and install a superuser zip
this still sucks compared to s-off. really wish HTC would stop shafting it's loyal customers so hard. It's like they want us to buy galaxy tabs :-(.
at least all of the updaters have a way to root now.
contradude said:
this still sucks compared to s-off. really wish HTC would stop shafting it's loyal customers so hard. It's like they want us to buy galaxy tabs :-(.
at least all of the updaters have a way to root now.
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It means more than that, they've given us a way to roll back to GB, which in turn means that OTA updaters can get S-OFF after all.
It means now we can also just fastboot flash everything regardless of what firmware we are on which is even better.
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It means now we can also just fastboot flash everything regardless of what firmware we are on which is even better.
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If you rollback to GB and S-OFF then yes, otherwise you are way off the mark, it doesn't even come close to allowing you to do that.
With an unlocked bootloader, you should be able to flash new recoveries and other things...unlocked from HTC is the same as S-off. It allows the flashing of unsigned firmware. Unless this device is unlike every other device I've had from HTC, I'm pretty sure I'm correct.
Although since I never had to use it on any of my devices (Never had something like Evo 3D) then I might be incorrect. However, based off my thoughts as an unlocked bootloader means you can flash new recovery, boot, and OTA updates that are unsigned / have broken signatures.
If you're happy with it fine, but you're misinformed. It's really not the same as S-OFF at all as many including myself have already explained. I can't be bothered with repeating the explanations again.
I apologize for being mistaken but provide information so I can be correct in the future
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I apologize for being mistaken but provide information so I can be correct in the future
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Well one difference I know about between soff and htc unlock is that you have to fastboot flash kernels and recoveries you cant flash them through cwm when the device is only htc unlocked, however you can get fastboot to flash them, at least thats how it is on the evo 3d.
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Well one difference I know about between soff and htc unlock is that you have to fastboot flash kernels and recoveries you cant flash them through cwm when the device is only htc unlocked, however you can get fastboot to flash them, at least thats how it is on the evo 3d.
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10 points for mark
flashing radios;custom(or stock) RUUs when unlocked; downgradability (not blocked on stock view hboot this time);but the s-off hboot protects itself from getting replaced so no nasty OTA surprises;bypassing CID restrictions, there are a few more but they are probably of no interest to most people.
EDIT: Yeah, also forgot HTC unlock erases your DRM keys.
That's good news... I'd assume I need to be back to the stock RUU S-ON to unlock it? As I already have the Rev. S-Off on my View now.
If it's not going to break it then I'll just go have it unlock it now.
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10 points for mark
flashing radios;custom(or stock) RUUs when unlocked; downgradability (not blocked on stock view hboot this time);but the s-off hboot protects itself from getting replaced so no nasty OTA surprises;bypassing CID restrictions, there are a few more but they are probably of no interest to most people.
EDIT: Yeah, also forgot HTC unlock erases your DRM keys.
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But all root apps work right? And you can still flash radios and custom RUUs through the bootloader, correct? And taking OTA's isn't smart when rooted either way. So what are the consequences of losing the DRM keys?
GadgetMonger said:
But all root apps work right? And you can still flash radios and custom RUUs through the bootloader, correct? And taking OTA's isn't smart when rooted either way. So what are the consequences of losing the DRM keys?
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Correct, you can root and all apps will work, Wrong; go read, can't do radios or RUUS, Normally it's perfectly fine with a stock recovery and a protected hboot.
DRM keys are not really a problem unless you bought from watch or some other built-in thing like that.
Honestly, I couldn't care less which people do, but unlock is a pain for developers to deal with and frustrating when flashing roms. But I dislike incorrect statements like saying S-OFF and unlock are the same thing.
While its a "half assed s-off through fast boot, its still technically an s-off. Just not proper. So they aren't the same, just similar. They aren't however what people WANT on their devices.
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While its a "half assed s-off through fast boot, its still technically an s-off. Just not proper. So they aren't the same, just similar. They aren't however what people WANT on their devices.
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Do this. Unlock with the HTC method then boot to bootloader. You will notice that your device is telling you that it is unlocked but still s-on. As far as I know s-on means exactly that and not "half assed" s-off. I dont think you're understanding the difference.
No I understand the difference. S-off means the entire device is no longer secured at all. You can flash anything from the device. With unlock, you can only flash using fast boot and you can't flash certain things like radios etc. Only kernels, recovery, and downgrading RUU's
Therefore, its a "halfassed" s-off
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Hi all, I had an OG Evo and and Evo 3D. Both were rooted using various methods. HTCDEV unlocks became available right around when I rooted with Revolutionary.
I have been seeing some weird questions and comments in the forums. So if anyone can help out with some clarifying (links for me to read on my own are very welcome) it would be great.
- I have seen some posts stating that ROOT was achieved in the Dev forum, but S-OFF was not achieved. Don't you need S-OFF on HTC devices to achieve full root status? If not, what is the point of getting S-OFF then?
- HTCDEV only allows you to flash custom ROMs as I understand it. I assume that you can then flash SuperUser as well. Going this route looks like it voids the warranty. So why in the world would you do this? Many of the ROMs I used on the Evo 3D had special instructions for these people. It looked like it caused a headache. I understand this doesn't allow for custom kernels or to upgrade the radios without doing something (I have no idea what) special. Is this right?
- With Sprint now supporting rooted devices, why would you use HTCDEV (I have a feeling the answers to this will be...colorful)?
Thanks people!
S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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Yeah, the only reason I disagree with this is cause when I got me replacement 3d it came with hboot 1.5 and I htcdev unlocked it and put 4ext and tried to flash roms and nothing worked ever. It worked perfectly with 1.4 and the eng hboot but htcdev was horrible for me s-off way beats htcdev s-on
alainater said:
Yeah, the only reason I disagree with this is cause when I got me replacement 3d it came with hboot 1.5 and I htcdev unlocked it and put 4ext and tried to flash roms and nothing worked ever. It worked perfectly with 1.4 and the eng hboot but htcdev was horrible for me s-off way beats htcdev s-on
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Damn! I wonder why it didn't work. It took me a while to get used to all its features but worked flawlessly. I was in the same boat had no choice received hboot 1.5 but if I was given a choice I would want the security flag OFF. Hopefully this can be achieved this time around.
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S-OFF was meaningless ever since 4EXT recovery came out. I was able to flash anything without problems on the go using 4EXT recovery. The recovery can be found on the play store and I highly recommend buying the full version for $3 bucks. Best app I ever payed for.
I had the 3D unlocked HTC dev S-ON.
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S-OFF is not meaningless. There are quite a few reasons why it is better than htcdev crappy boot unlock.
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THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR REGAINING S-OFF
DO NOT PERFORM THIS METHOD IF YOU WISH TO KEEP S-OFF
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So i didnt want to wait for the devs to update thier roms, and i wanted the radio updates as well. for all those ppl say not to do the OTA you will losew root until a new method is found are not correct. Yes you will lose root, but you can get it back. and its easy. Here are the steps
1. Relock boot loader
2. apply RUU for the same rom version you are running http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645890
3. rerun RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter
3a. It will sucessfully unlock and flash the recovery on your phone, but it will fail to root it.
3b. Download the rooting files http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/HTCEvo4GLTE/rooting/Evo4GLTERoot2.zip
4. Extract the contents of the zip file
5. Copy the file CWM-SuperSU-v0.87.zip to your SD card
6. Reboot to recovery
7. Flash CWM-SuperSU-v0.87.zip
8. Reboot to system and Viola you have have a rooted install
But can you still unlock with Lazy Panda?
EDIT: I realize you can unlock with the RegawMod unlock, but I have no doubt HTC's unlock tool will work.
Try to lazy panda your new hboot
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Try to lazy panda your new hboot
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This is really the main(only?) concern.
Sent from my LTEvo
You are not correct. People are not saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose root", they're saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose the ability to S-OFF".
This happened with the Evo 3D. We had S-OFF for HBOOT 1.4, and then an OTA comes that upgrades to HBOOT 1.5. The S-OFF exploit was patched with 1.5, making it damn near impossible to S-OFF.
Seriously. If you're even remotely considering S-OFF, don't bother with applying the OTA. Wait for ROM devs to incorporate the OTA into their custom ROMs, because they will do it in a way that doesn't change your HBOOT or any other sensitive partition.
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You are not correct. People are not saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose root", they're saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose the ability to S-OFF".
This happened with the Evo 3D. We had S-OFF for HBOOT 1.4, and then an OTA comes that upgrades to HBOOT 1.5. The S-OFF exploit was patched with 1.5, making it damn near impossible to S-OFF.
Seriously. If you're even remotely considering S-OFF, don't bother with applying the OTA. Wait for ROM devs to incorporate the OTA into their custom ROMs, because they will do it in a way that doesn't change your HBOOT or any other sensitive partition.
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Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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Dude, just listen to LiquidSolstice on this one. DO NOT OTA an already S-OFF PHONE! Literally in a few hours we will probably have a stock / rooted ROM posted. Just have patience.
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Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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The compelling reason to S-OFF is the fact that HTC and Sprint are never made aware in the slightest that you have done anything to your phone. The Dev unlock runs and tells HTC and Sprint that you are messing with your device. If done correctly, S-OFF gives you complete unfettered access to your phone, and with the proper tools, you can ensure you don't have to deal with the warning text on the screen that almost criminalizes you for having the audacity to unlock your phone.
People who are S-ON and HTC Dev unlocked ultimately run into strange issues down the road. You just wait until full AOSP comes around. On the Evo 3D, it was a nightmare. Even on the One-X, they're having issues because their boot partition is still locked and they can't use custom kernels (though I don't think that's as much of an issue with our phones).
S-OFF is so easy to perform, and the ONLY type of soft-brick that sometimes happens when performing it can be easily fixed with a dedicated tool. There is literally no downside to being S-OFF.
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with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF
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I'd love to see you have the H-boot say S-ON and ***locked*** while still rooted
While your at it, go ahead try to remove the red HTC text as well.
HseloMein said:
Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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Lol so much fail. Good luck with that bro. I'm keeping my s-off
No one should follow this guy. You better hope it doesn't come back to bite you in the ass.
And you sir are in denial.
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Rxpert said:
I'd love to see you have the H-boot say S-ON and ***locked*** while still rooted
While your at it, go ahead try to remove the red HTC text as well.
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And although this may seem like just a visual thing, I have a friend who sent his phone in Dev unlocked and they denied his Google Wallet claim to replace the phone.
He then got his phone S-OFF'd through LazyPanda, changed the bootloader text, and sent it in again, and granted, I didn't think it would go through, but they accepted it that time.
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And although this may seem like just a visual thing, I have a friend who sent his phone in Dev unlocked and they denied his Google Wallet claim to replace the phone.
He then got his phone S-OFF'd through LazyPanda, changed the bootloader text, and sent it in again, and granted, I didn't think it would go through, but they accepted it that time.
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Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
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Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
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While I respect your choice, I must also respectfully disagree with it. Regardless of what I think, you did take the time to explain how to re-root, and for that, I can't fault you. Thanks for your contribution.
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Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
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A recognized developer warning us should be enough reason.
OMG pbedard thanking my post? The world has just ended, lol.
Nice to see you again pbedard
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if you do accept the new update and lose S-OFF can you not just run the original RUU to get back to the release image which allows you to S-OFF again?
Once you apply the ota it installs a new hboot that blocks the current s-off method so keep that in mind. I don't know if running a ruu reverts the hboot.
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
RoidPusher said:
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if you do accept the new update and lose S-OFF can you not just run the original RUU to get back to the release image which allows you to S-OFF again?
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Nope. Keep your hboot. It can be difficult if not impossible to downgrade hboot.
Sent from an EVO 4G LTE using Tapatalk 2.
HseloMein, would you mind editing the title of this thread (maybe add [S-ON] at the beginning) to indicate that it may affect the ability to get S-OFF in the future.
david279 said:
Once you apply the ota it installs a new hboot that blocks the current s-off method so keep that in mind. I don't know if running a ruu reverts the hboot.
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
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Is this fact or assumption on the HBOOT Update? I'm S-off and no damn way am I taking the update BUT I thought I'd ask just for general knowledge. Back on the 3D, while we did get the HBOOT update, at least if you were S-off before the HBOOT update you held on to that and weren't stuck like chuck with HBOOT 1.50.000, what a nightmare. We were able to downgrade the HBOOT as long as you were S-off but why go through all that pain. I guess the saving grace here is that we really do have a pretty good "official" Dev unlock that doensn't totally screw you like the half baked unlock we got from HTC for the EVO 3D.
I need to get the word out to any and all LTE owners I know to not take it before I can S-off their phones.... might be a busy rest of the week! :laugh:
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I want to root my phone badly and install cyanagenmod 10.2 on my rezound. But I'm afraid to, I mean I've read everything and I'm pretty sure I could do it easily, but it just scares me of bricking my phone, I upgrade sometime this year, should I wait till I upgrade? And by the way, if I do, do it, its on a Mac...
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There's very little if any chance of bricking unless you go S-Off. Keep it S-On and you'll always be able to recover to stock as long as you have a PC (something that works with Fastboot such as Windows or Ubuntu) and the latest RUU
Thank you, I've read that multiple times, but should I wait till I go for a upgrade? Or would you say root it sometime soon? And is it possible on mac though... I have the SDK, and all the necessary stuff on my mac, or at least I think...
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scy1192 said:
There's very little if any chance of bricking unless you go S-Off. Keep it S-On and you'll always be able to recover to stock as long as you have a PC (something that works with Fastboot such as Windows or Ubuntu) and the latest RUU
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ruu requires s-off bud...also if you soft brick while s-on there is no fix what so ever...all soft brick fixes work in s-off only.....but yes you actually root via a custom recovery on the rez...if s-on all you have to do is fastboot flash said recovery which i can link you to and run the su installer
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ruu requires s-off bud...also if you soft brick while s-on there is no fix what so ever...all soft brick fixes work in s-off only.....but yes you actually root via a custom recovery on the rez...if s-on all you have to do is fastboot flash said recovery which i can link you to and run the su installer
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Really it depends on the hboot and radios his phone is on, right? Bc say he were on the global leak 2.27 hboot with 2.22 radios he could still apply that ruu. However if on 2.28 hboot with 2.23 radios there technically is no official ruu so would need have be s_off..
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Really it depends on the hboot and radios his phone is on, right? Bc say he were on the global leak 2.27 hboot with 2.22 radios he could still apply that ruu. However if on 2.28 hboot with 2.23 radios there technically is no official ruu so would need have be s_off..
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he could fastboot to 2.28 without that provided OTA fille...ruu is actually an exe program... but i suggest against it honestly....but if downgrading at all requires s-off....he can root without s-off and flash roms....so long as he does use s-on instructions....(which to be honest s-on users have a harder time flashing custom roms for the reason of having to fastboot all the time)
Plus S-Off is so easy now... No wire trick
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I guess what the OP needs is some words of encouragement so let me just say this : unlocking the bootloader through HTC dev will not brick your phone, flashing a custom recovery will not brick your phone, flashing a custom rom will not brick your phone, getting the most out of your rezound will not brick your phone. Btw happy new year everybody
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Ok...so do I go s-off or s-on... Which one would you suggest... I'm kind of a noob... Sorry about that, I've read so many forum's, but I just haven't gotten to do it, or afraid of doing it, I know unlock bootloader and so on so forth... But after that... I know the HTC developers website provides a way for you to unlock the boot loader which allows you to install a custom ROM but I've seen other people do it differently, I've heard mac88 has a great one on rooting HTC rezound, but its supposed to have pictures but it was taken down... Or at least the pictures and I suck at reading it and doing it sometimes... I do better by seeing... Any help for a noob guys... Please help..
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I'm also looking to leave it Verizon, not changing anything, I've always heard never mess with the S-on or off... So...
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pball52998 said:
I'm also looking to leave it Verizon, not changing anything, I've always heard never mess with the S-on or off... So...
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s-off makes life easier...makes it so youll never have to use the computer to keep fastboot flashing the boot.img for every rom you wanna flash...doesnt change carrier....if youd like...to make your life easier...you can always send me the phone and ill do all the work for you and send it back free of charge
Thank you so much, so s-off is the best choice to do for the phone...
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pball52998 said:
Thank you so much, so s-off is the best choice to do for the phone...
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for a "noob" yes it is...makes things much easier on you....thats my personal opinion
Can you send me a link to a no wire trick, s-off please, because everything hat I have found is just wire trick..
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pball52998 said:
Can you send me a link to a no wire trick, s-off please, because everything hat I have found is just wire trick..
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Here ya go! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585885 Much easier than the Juopunut s-off which requires Linux and the use of a wire to short out contacts on your phone.
Edit: Of course you need to be unlocked and rooted, and have a custom rom and kernel already installed to use this method. So it may not be easier for you.
Chillerman said:
Here ya go! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585885 Much easier than the Juopunut s-off which requires Linux and the use of a wire to short out contacts on your phone.
Edit: Of course you need to be unlocked and rooted, and have a custom rom and kernel already installed to use this method. So it may not be easier for you.
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Thank you so much and I only plan on putting CM on, I know that sounds weird but thats my plan. I need to get my windows side on my mac working better... I do have windows 7 its just, slow, and very low memory on the windows side left....sadly, but I will try to at least unlock my bootloader and get my adb drivers set up...
And I also forgot to ask earlier, can you send me the link you said for the recovery and Su... Please?
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pball52998 said:
And I also forgot to ask earlier, can you send me the link you said for the recovery and Su... Please?
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There are a lot of good threads to look at in HTC Rezound > Rezound Android development. Here are a few to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418659
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365654
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415615
Thank you I got into the boot loader unlock, but haven't done it yet, I went back in to make sure I have everything backed up, and when installing CWM does it back up your stock Rom onto a SD card? I've read things on it but don't really understand...sorry still a noob...
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Thank you I got into the boot loader unlock, but haven't done it yet, I went back in to make sure I have everything backed up, and when installing CWM does it back up your stock Rom onto a SD card? I've read things on it but don't really understand...sorry still a noob...
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It appears you have a lot more reading to do before you start making these changes to your phone. If not careful you can turn it into a useless brick. I would suggest reading through as many development threads as you can to get more comfortable.
BTW, you won't be doing any of this from your Mac. Find a Windows or Linux computer to use.
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