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So, I upgraded from my Skyrocket to a Note today. So far, the phone is great, except for a couple of strange problems with Google Market/Play. First problem is I am unable to bill any purchases to my AT&T account. The option is no longer there. Secondly, all of "my apps", the apps I previously paid for are requiring me to repurchase all my apps. I've never seen this before. Hopefully, somebody can help me.
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Did you use the same Gmail account to set up the note?
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Yes, I only have one account.
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Can't help you about the apps, but my Note allows me to bill to AT&T bill.
I would check and double check your synching accounts. I constantly switch back and forth between the Note and Skyrocket and all of my purchases are available across the devices.
I can also bill to account on both. Check your Google account online too, see if you can find your Note registered there too.
Good luck!
Problem soved. I was able to fix the "my apps" issue by clearing cache and data on Market. Apps are now able to download withoit having to pay again. Now if I could just get my purchases to bill to my at&t account.
Thanks to everyone who offered advice!
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Double check with att and make sure u dont have a purchase blocker on
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Not exactly the same issue, but when I went to buy an app recently, I was unable to add my a Mastercard to my Google Wallet. I had all the info correct (checked several times) yet it said it was an 'Invalid Payment Instrument'.
PeartFan40 said:
So, I upgraded from my Skyrocket to a Note today. So far, the phone is great, except for a couple of strange problems with Google Market/Play. First problem is I am unable to bill any purchases to my AT&T account. The option is no longer there. Secondly, all of "my apps", the apps I previously paid for are requiring me to repurchase all my apps. I've never seen this before. Hopefully, somebody can help me.
Thanks
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I'm having the same issue with being "re-charged" for apps I've paid for. I'll try clearing cache/data as well.
google play does not allow you to charge to your bill.... i read it in other threads here.
macqueyl said:
I'm having the same issue with being "re-charged" for apps I've paid for. I'll try clearing cache/data as well.
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Thought I'd share this with you. I figured out how to fix the "re-charge" issue. I went into settings/applications/google play, then I cleared cache and data. I fired up play and everything was back to normal.
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Yeah, it finally started acting right for me & contrary to unpopular belief, Google Play does indeed allow you to charge purchases to your cell phone bill.
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macqueyl said:
Yeah, it finally started acting right for me & contrary to unpopular belief, Google Play does indeed allow you to charge purchases to your cell phone bill.
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Well this just fries my ass. Two AT&T reps told me that Google discontinued the "bill to my AT&T account" feature. AT&T reps remind me of used car salemen.
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They aren't that well informed; I just billed "LauncherPro Sense" to my cell phone account.
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macqueyl said:
They aren't that well informed; I just billed "LauncherPro Sense" to my cell phone account.
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I'm glad its working for you. This BS started when I got a Skyrocket. When I upgraded to a white Note, I was hoping the issue would resolve; but it did not. Doesn't help when you have "radio shack" level AT&T reps misinforming you (more common than one might think). I've also called AT&T Tech, and that exoerience can aptly be categorized as painful, to say the least. A month and a half and still no resolution. WTG, AT&T!
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PeartFan40 said:
I'm glad its working for you. This BS started when I got a Skyrocket. When I upgraded to a white Note, I was hoping the issue would resolve; but it did not. Doesn't help when you have "radio shack" level AT&T reps misinforming you (more common than one might think). I've also called AT&T Tech, and that exoerience can aptly be categorized as painful, to say the least. A month and a half and still no resolution. WTG, AT&T!
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Come on now, sales people SELL products, they dont troubleshoot products. They cant be expected to know EVERY issue with EVERY product they have in the store. Years ago, this was a much different story when products were much less complex than they are today.
Its like a car salesman, you drive your car into the lot and a sales person approaches and asks you what the problem is, you tell him there is something wrong with the car and 99 out of a 100, the sales guy is going to send you to the on-site mechanic. The sales guy isnt going to fix the problem.
I know its super frustrating, I sometimes have the same feeling about sales reps but then I have to take a step back from the situation.
Although this somewhat basic, here is a direct copy and paste from here:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=167794
Carrier Billing
Overview
For supported mobile networks, you have the option to purchase Android apps on Google Play using direct carrier billing. Purchases made using direct carrier billing will be posted directly to your mobile billing account after the 15-minute return period expires.
Please note, at this time direct carrier billing is only available as an accepted payment method for applications sold in your country's local currency. In addition, direct carrier billing is not available for purchases made on the Google Play website.
Direct carrier billing is not available on all Android devices or service plans. For more details, please contact your mobile service provider.
Making purchases with direct carrier billing
To make a purchase using direct carrier billing, follow the steps below:
Locate the application you would like to purchase and click Buy.
Select the option to bill your mobile account.
Click OK.
Review your address information and make any necessary corrections.
Click OK.
Click Buy Now.
Direct carrier billing cancellations
Direct carrier billing purchases that do not receive a successful authorization from your mobile provider will be immediately cancelled. Directly after the order is cancelled, you will receive an order cancellation email from Google Wallet. For more information about the reason for the failed authorization, please contact your mobile service provider.
After you receive the cancellation email from Google Wallet, you can reattempt your purchase using direct carrier billing by following the steps below:
Navigate to the application on your Android device.
Click Retry.
If your order does not receive a successful authorization, click Cancel.
Click Buy to retry your purchase using a different accepted payment method.
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Pay special attention to the top section, these might indicate a restriction you are having.
If nothing else, call ATT customer support, while these guys arent a huge help either, they are more equipped to help with your problem than the sales guys are.
One other note (no pun intended), go to Settings->Applications->Manage Applications and tap the 'All' tab at the top. Scroll to Google Play Store and tap it. At the very top, just under the name of the app is a version number. This should be showing 3.5.16. If it isnt, tap force stop (if available) and then tap clear data and then clear cache (if available). Then hit your home button and relaunch the market. This should force the market to update and address the issue regarding previously purchased apps from not appearing correctly (the market was recently updated to correct this very issue).
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Come on now, sales people SELL products, they dont troubleshoot products. They cant be expected to know EVERY issue with EVERY product they have in the store. Years ago, this was a much different story when products were much less complex than they are today.
Its like a car salesman, you drive your car into the lot and a sales person approaches and asks you what the problem is, you tell him there is something wrong with the car and 99 out of a 100, the sales guy is going to send you to the on-site mechanic. The sales guy isnt going to fix the problem.
I know its super frustrating, I sometimes have the same feeling about sales reps but then I have to take a step back from the situation.
Although this somewhat basic, here is a direct copy and paste from here:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=167794
Pay special attention to the top section, these might indicate a restriction you are having.
If nothing else, call ATT customer support, while these guys arent a huge help either, they are more equipped to help with your problem than the sales guys are.
One other note (no pun intended), go to Settings->Applications->Manage Applications and tap the 'All' tab at the top. Scroll to Google Play Store and tap it. At the very top, just under the name of the app is a version number. This should be showing 3.5.16. If it isnt, tap force stop (if available) and then tap clear data and then clear cache (if available). Then hit your home button and relaunch the market. This should force the market to update and address the issue regarding previously purchased apps from not appearing correctly (the market was recently updated to correct this very issue).
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When I called AT&T, it was wasn't a saleperson, but a tech support agent. I really appreciate your effort here. It looks like you spent some time getting this information, which is GREATLY appreciated. I'm going to follow the steps provided. If that doesn't work, I will try calling AT&T again. Maybe I will have better luck this time around.
Thanks button has been ticked. Thanks again!
BTW, my version is 3.5.16
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PeartFan40 said:
When I called AT&T, it was wasn't a saleperson, but a tech support agent. I really appreciate your effort here. It looks like you spent some time getting this information, which is GREATLY appreciated. I'm going to follow the steps provided. If that doesn't work, I will try calling AT&T again. Maybe I will have better luck this time around.
Thanks button has been ticked. Thanks again!
BTW, my version is 3.5.16
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kk, yea, I thought you said you went in to the store.
Best of luck to ya, if you have trouble getting purchases added you your att bill, you could always try a pre-paid credit card. Given the amount of data that Google sells as marketing data, I wouldnt be surprised if my credit card number was also being sold. I understand the precautions.
littlewierdo said:
kk, yea, I thought you said you went in to the store.
Best of luck to ya, if you have trouble getting purchases added you your att bill, you could always try a pre-paid credit card. Given the amount of data that Google sells as marketing data, I wouldnt be surprised if my credit card number was also being sold. I understand the precautions.
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Thanks bro. I already have a debit card and credit card stored. It just urks me that this isn't working. I'm sure AT&T will get it figured out within the next 2 years or so.
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PeartFan40 said:
Thanks bro. I already have a debit card and credit card stored. It just urks me that this isn't working. I'm sure AT&T will get it figured out within the next 2 years or so.
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I did have this issue on my Streak when I went from stock to custom. I had to uninstall and re-install the market.apk to get the "bill to account" working again. I know how you are feeling...
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I noticed on some third party sites that the HTCEVO4GLTELMNOP came with a $10 Google Wallet credit. Does anyone know if this is also included in Sprint.com preorders?
They just added Google Wallet as a payment option at my grocery store so I might actually get some use out of it now.
You automatically get that $10 when you sign up for Google Wallet by default. What would be nice is if we got the extra $40 the Galaxy Nexus owners got. But we probably won't.
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Anyone able to activate google wallet on their phone because mine keeps failing.
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durandetto said:
Anyone able to activate google wallet on their phone because mine keeps failing.
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mine activated but i can't even use it cuz you need a citi bank mastercard
ticklemepinks said:
mine activated but i can't even use it cuz you need a citi bank mastercard
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I noticed that as well. I do happen to have one but only use is as a backup or for emergencies. I'm hoping they open it up to other cards soon.
ticklemepinks said:
mine activated but i can't even use it cuz you need a citi bank mastercard
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erikivy said:
I noticed that as well. I do happen to have one but only use is as a backup or for emergencies. I'm hoping they open it up to other cards soon.
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You dont have to use a citi card. You can use a prepaid google card funded by any of your existing cards. http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works-payments.html
njfoses said:
You dont have to use a citi card. You can use a prepaid google card funded by any of your existing cards. http://www.google.com/wallet/how-it-works-payments.html
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I wonder how those "top up" charges will appear on my Chase credit card? If it's just a regular purchase, that's fine, but it would conceivably post as a cash advance or something. I think I'll set one up and add $10 or so to it and see what happens. Thanks for the link!
erikivy said:
I wonder how those "top up" charges will appear on my Chase credit card? If it's just a regular purchase, that's fine, but it would conceivably post as a cash advance or something. I think I'll set one up and add $10 or so to it and see what happens. Thanks for the link!
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No problem. Im 99% sure it will be like buying a giftcard if you will.
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No problem. Im 99% sure it will be like buying a giftcard if you will.
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That actually makes perfect sense.
Well, it's done! I got the free $10 and added $20 with my Chase card. Now I just need to find a place to try the damn thing out.
Mine keeps failing to add/create the prepaid card. Any tips to get it to add?
Not happy that you can't buy a gift card with a regular debit card HAS to be a credit or non-pin number signature type card. I can find other uses for NFC.
Sebrina said:
Not happy that you can't buy a gift card with a regular debit card HAS to be a credit or non-pin number signature type card. I can find other uses for NFC.
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Haven't tried adding anymore other than the initial $10 but why not just add to the google pre-paid card and use that. (unless that's what you're referring to) All the places you can add giftcards for accept it, whether it be paypass, or a google wallet location so just use that.
To the person asking about where you can use it. Go to the google wallet website, you can look up nearby places that use it. There are actually more places than listed on the site as well. Because they are partnered with mastercard, as long as the store accepts mastercard paypass you can use your google wallet there.
Hopefully they can get other issuers on board aside from Citi MasterCard, however as with all new things, everyone is doing their own thing instead of trying to form a standard. That is until one becomes more popular than the other. I believe Visa is partnering with Isis as well as some other vendors.
Got another $10 from google. Activated just fine for me. When I get my other $65 transfered over i'll have $75 on google. Thanx and go android!
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Cordy said:
Haven't tried adding anymore other than the initial $10 but why not just add to the google pre-paid card and use that. (unless that's what you're referring to) All the places you can add giftcards for accept it, whether it be paypass, or a google wallet location so just use that.
To the person asking about where you can use it. Go to the google wallet website, you can look up nearby places that use it. There are actually more places than listed on the site as well. Because they are partnered with mastercard, as long as the store accepts mastercard paypass you can use your google wallet there.
Hopefully they can get other issuers on board aside from Citi MasterCard, however as with all new things, everyone is doing their own thing instead of trying to form a standard. That is until one becomes more popular than the other. I believe Visa is partnering with Isis as well as some other vendors.
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Because you need that credit or non-pin card to attach it to the Google pre-paid card, that's what I was getting at.
Josh H. said:
Mine keeps failing to add/create the prepaid card. Any tips to get it to add?
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Same here. I am not rooted, I did update to the newest version of Wallet.
Apparently I need a prepaid card...
Sebrina said:
Not happy that you can't buy a gift card with a regular debit card HAS to be a credit or non-pin number signature type card. I can find other uses for NFC.
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From what i have read even though it says you cant use debit cards as long as it has a visa or mc logo and is not a straight pin debit card it should still work fine.
durandetto said:
Anyone able to activate google wallet on their phone because mine keeps failing.
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Whats your error? Mine says NFC is disabled even though it isn't, and the checkbox for NFC in the settings area is flakey (shows as checked, try to uncheck it and leave/come back and its checked again). Is my NFC chip broken?
bohiti said:
Whats your error? Mine says NFC is disabled even though it isn't, and the checkbox for NFC in the settings area is flakey (shows as checked, try to uncheck it and leave/come back and its checked again). Is my NFC chip broken?
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have you tried rebooting? if not, try it. if you did, go to power>uncheck fastboot, turn off phone, turn on again. sometimes it just needs a good power cycle to straighten itself out esp if you havent really turned it off since you got it (me)
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Because you need that credit or non-pin card to attach it to the Google pre-paid card, that's what I was getting at.
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Oh ok, as I stated I haven't really added money yet aside from the initial $10. As another user pointed out, is the debit card you're using an ATM-Only card or is it a debit card backed by MasterCard or VISA?
listin i been trying to figure out how to buy an app with the 10$ thats on my card.. and it wont let me??? am i missing somethin... gives me the option to bill my sprint account.. add card...redeem.. i push redeem then it says gift card code.. i put the number on the 10$ card and it keeps saying invalid gift card code?????? WACK!!!!!!
No you can't, at least from what I've read (I wondered the same thing). Google wants you to spend that $10 using the phone's NFC capabilities.
Actually I spent mine on a cheap mhl adapter by going to a site that accepts Google wallet
That's good to know. I was just going off of what I had read before because I was wondering the same as OP.
KHoff said:
No you can't, at least from what I've read (I wondered the same thing). Google wants you to spend that $10 using the phone's NFC capabilities.
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wow thats wack!!!!!!
KHoff said:
That's good to know. I was just going off of what I had read before because I was wondering the same as OP.
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Well you couldn't until they upgraded to their new cloud payment system. Now any site (supposedly I only tried the one) that has a Google wallet logo allows you to make a purchase without having to sign up to the website, really convenient
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Well you couldn't until they upgraded to their new cloud payment system. Now any site (supposedly I only tried the one) that has a Google wallet logo allows you to make a purchase without having to sign up to the website, really convenient
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What one did you try? It'd be pretty cool if Amazon or other major online retailers started accepting Google Wallet (though that wouldn't really add any convenience for most people, since I'm sure everyone already has an Amazon accounts).
I don't remember but I bookmarked it on my nephews laptop
Hey,
Just looking for a bit of assistance and please excuse if this is the incorrect place. I'm currently getting a Nexus 5 from the play store in Australia and was wondering about payment methods, the reason behind this is because:
a) I'm not in a supported County of the play store
b) I own a debit card
While I know play store accepts debit cards this doesn't help much. So iv managed to get hold of a friend in Australia who will get the device for me when it comes available again and I'll sort out my own private shipping from him to me. Anyways my main question was:
What would be the best method to get my funds to him? Iv got plenty options like PayPal the funds to his account which he can then use his own debit card to pay for it or would a Google wallet transfer be a better option? Last one is it possible to purchase from the play store using his (the Australian friends) Google wallet?
I'm trying to make the process as smooth as possible since he is really helping me out, I don't want to back door Google and go via a VPN when I can try resolve this easy with a simple question.
Regards and thanks in advance
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Soprono said:
What would be the best method to get my funds to him?
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you can use western union, they are every where and can transfer within the day
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Check this out! You , YES! you are an " Android ". Not your phone but U.
Western Union charges. Paypal is instant and doesn't cost anything under a certain amount if I'm not mistaken. I've used PayPal to xfer money to friends and it works great. They don't even need a PayPal account. Once you send a payment to an email, they will get an email to open up an account to collect the money. Also the android app works really well for personal payments, not to mention that you can get a debit card from them that costs nothing and gives cash back on purchases.
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Seems PayPal would be my best bet
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I have a developer edition running on AT&T. I have the correct SIM card but AT&T is not allowing the application to be downloaded on these phones. Has anyone found a work around? I did not want to root it yet.
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mikeg2013 said:
I have a developer edition running on AT&T. I have the correct SIM card but AT&T is not allowing the application to be downloaded on these phones. Has anyone found a work around? I did not want to root it yet.
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I have spoken to the tech dept at ATT and I have a ticket open on ISIS and Visual Voice Mail.
I suggest you also call and complain.
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Just gotta ask...why would you bother with ISIS when Google Wallet supposedly works out of the box
Isis
Tower1972 said:
Just gotta ask...why would you bother with ISIS when Google Wallet supposedly works out of the box
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Correct me if I am wrong but I believe ISIS is more widely accepted?
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Google wallet you could use your own credit card through nfc where Isis you have to use their credit card, that's the only difference between the apps.
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ISIS gives you a $50 credit for signing up.
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Google wallet works with any terminal that allows pay pass or whatever it's called plus allows you to add ALOT more cards to use , opposed to the what..2-3 cards allowed with Isis.
Plus I don't believe you need a special secure element built into a sim to use it . I know on ATT and Verizon purposely gimped a lot of phones to force people to use Isis while blocking people from using wallet by either having the secure element removed or completely shut off..a very shady way to do things IMO
https://www.paywithisis.com
Seems the money Isis pays is for friend referrals..10.00 per each friend you sign up..but if you don't have a Wells Fargo, chase, or American Express card..it's useless..MasterCard and visa plus numerous other banks aren't accepted with it I believe
Isis is carrier only,AT&T,Verizon,Tmobile I believe, Google wallet is worldwide...
Other getting a one time $50 credit for opening a card with them Isis is pointless and refuse to use the app, specially cause its ugly.
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Ive got it loading fine on dev edition based rom...will need to use xposed work around but it works...soooo should be good to go in a little bit for those who are interested p.m. me for final phase of testing(i dont have a secure sim) ...if not then itll go to the one tester and he will reap the usage of isis on the dev build... :0P
When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
To each their own obviously there is a need for it to work with developer build for folks that do already have and use it and had purchased the phone. Personally I don't use it or Google Wallet, but I did this for those who do...
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When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
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That makes sense. Maybe the fact that it was so strongly pushed when buying the device gave a bad first impression.
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When I was buying the phone, the rep heavily pushed ISIS on me. Even when I told him that I didn't need my credit record dinged by opening up an Amex card, he finally "caved in" by saying that it can be done later on, and begged me to do it as soon as possible. That "soon" will be never, because a short time later, I stuck on a GPE ROM that didn't have ISIS present on the device.
From what I've seen, not having ISIS isn't missing much. I don't like the fact that one has to open up a new line of credit. Nor that I have to use a root-hostile app. Google Wallet or Paypal do the same thing and I can use my existing cards/accounts, and I don't need a special SIM card.
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You can download the app right from the play store. Just have to have the right sim. I tried on my GF's note 2 but the sim wasn't compatible. Just download it from the Play Store. Don't see why you wouldn't take advantage of a free $50 bucks of Gas, food, merchandise. You don't have to ever use it again. :good:
its blocked on playstore for a non branded device and will not install on the m8
Vcolassi said:
You can download the app right from the play store. Just have to have the right sim. I tried on my GF's note 2 but the sim wasn't compatible. Just download it from the Play Store. Don't see why you wouldn't take advantage of a free $50 bucks of Gas, food, merchandise. You don't have to ever use it again. :good:
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Google wallet you could use your own credit card through nfc where Isis you have to use their credit card, that's the only difference between the apps.
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Actually, the difference is HUGE. Google Wallet takes the transaction and tries to authorize a purchase to your designated credit card. Google Wallet does not look or behave like your designated card. Transactions first go to google's servers, then google servers try to authorize the amount against your preferred card and if approved then approves the transaction. Google retains the information for the transaction. This is useless for me since on my statement all my Google Wallet transactions show up as Google transactions.
ISIS, on the other hand, actually emulates your selected card. All transaction data is passed thru just as if you used your card. Since it's emulating your card, merchant details will show up on your statement, not "Google". Google Wallet is useless for many many business travelers that submit expense reports via statements... myself included.
went to pick up my new M8 with the ATT store, and got the same nag about ISIS. The SIM is compatible, and ISIS was installed, and they offer $50 credit on it. Since I knew I will root the phone and it will die anyhow, I said yes, and immediately bought screen protector and other stuff for a total of $45 , actually not paying a dime..
Cane home, unlocked boot , S-OFF and rooted the phone. ISIS does not work now even with the Xposed root bypass (I suspect the HW on the new SIM is lower level binary than xposed is), but I don;t care as I have Wallet installed and working fine. Anyhow it works exactly at the same places in the US, plus in Europe.. :laugh:
Over all- Say yes for the ATT rep, and get $50 free stuff in the store right away.. I don't see how this is affecting credit score as this is not a credit line, but a prepaid e-wallet..
BigE said:
went to pick up my new M8 with the ATT store, and got the same nag about ISIS. The SIM is compatible, and ISIS was installed, and they offer $50 credit on it. Since I knew I will root the phone and it will die anyhow, I said yes, and immediately bought screen protector and other stuff for a total of $45 , actually not paying a dime..
Cane home, unlocked boot , S-OFF and rooted the phone. ISIS does not work now even with the Xposed root bypass (I suspect the HW on the new SIM is lower level binary than xposed is), but I don;t care as I have Wallet installed and working fine. Anyhow it works exactly at the same places in the US, plus in Europe.. :laugh:
Over all- Say yes for the ATT rep, and get $50 free stuff in the store right away.. I don't see how this is affecting credit score as this is not a credit line, but a prepaid e-wallet..
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Hmmm...I just unlocked, rooted and S-OFF'd my brand-new M8 over the weekend and loaded the latest ViperOne M8 ROM on it tonight; coming from the purposely gimped AT&T Galaxy S4, my modded M8 looks, runs, and sounds great, just like I want.
After using the latest Xposed ISIS root check bypass, I was able to get ISIS running just fine, signed up for it and Serve, and got my $50 credit (I didn't want to sign up in the store, because I wanted to get some more info on it first). Even if ISIS decides to stop working, the physical card should be here in a few days; the plus side to that is I'll be able to use that $50 anywhere that takes AMEX, even places without NFC terminals or at online stores, such as Amazon and Newegg.
"Free" money is always nice; it almost makes up for the taxes that I paid on the phone when I got it Friday.
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Wilsonium said:
Actually, the difference is HUGE. Google Wallet takes the transaction and tries to authorize a purchase to your designated credit card. Google Wallet does not look or behave like your designated card. Transactions first go to google's servers, then google servers try to authorize the amount against your preferred card and if approved then approves the transaction. Google retains the information for the transaction. This is useless for me since on my statement all my Google Wallet transactions show up as Google transactions.
ISIS, on the other hand, actually emulates your selected card. All transaction data is passed thru just as if you used your card. Since it's emulating your card, merchant details will show up on your statement, not "Google". Google Wallet is useless for many many business travelers that submit expense reports via statements... myself included.
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Furthermore, at least it is my understanding, that since all of your purchases are funneling through Google, you won't get reward points on your credit cards for specific category purchases, and might not get them at all for the "everything else" category. For me, reward points and building credit are the whole purpose of me even using credit cards, so that's a huge red mark for Google Wallet.
This is how Google manages to support so many cards BTW. It's because they just make a "Google" purchase transaction on your card and then finance your purchase with Google Bucks. That may work for some, but it defeats the purpose for many, and at the very least, makes it difficult to track all your transactions.
To be fair, a lot of this is because AT&T is blocking Google from getting the appropriate contracts with CC companies, it's not like Google doesn't want to have the same type of service ISIS offers.
EDIT: I looked in to it further, and the other concern is that you would not get your credit card benefits either -- So kiss additional insurance, return protection, travel assurance, etc all goodbye. I wish that Google Wallet were what we all want it to be, but their current system is flawed.
Im just gonna toss tis out there, the Amex card you start with Isis is a prepayed card. It is NOT a hit on your credit at all. I like it as I then have a actual plastic card for it as well and if my son is going on a school trip, or scout function or heck even mothers day, I simply handed the card to him and he can use what money I put on it.
As for google wallet, I like it for gas purchases. I have my ATM card on it and use that at the pump. sometimes. but mainly NFC isnt nearly as prevalent around me to make either of these apps worth much to me.
Oh and with rootcloak in exposed installer Isis is working on my rooted S-Off'd M8 runing SkyFall from iBastid....