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so now that some people have this device, how smooth does the text look? no more pentile pixel layout should mean a gorgeous superb looking screen. my mouth is watering at the thought of OLED pixels without the fuzzy text look of the super amoled screens.
how do web pages look? small text, and text in general? is it really noticeable over the first galaxy s and nexus s screen?
To me it looks great
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does the screen look more pixelated than on the original galaxy s
it should look LESS pixelated than the galaxy s, but i dont know. that's what i'd like to know though.
wish there was some way to show close up smoothness of the screen to others out on the web thru pics or something, but its hard to do. maybe some close up shots?
you can always put a tiny droplet of water on the screen to magnify the pixels and take a pic.
Hi,
I have asked this question in a few other threads as well but I have some gradient issues which however doesn't appear to be a generic issue as I've not seen anyone else complain about it.
Text is as sharp as you would expect a screen of this size to be (I'm coming from the 4" LCD of X10i). Its slightly less sharp than the LCD but nothing unexpected.
Contrast is superb as are the viewing angles!
My display however shows colour banding as you can see in the grey background of the NeuralNet WP snapshot I uploaded (Sorry for the quality, its my X10)
Anyone else with this issue?
let me just dig out my SLR and take a picture of my screen, I too have "banding" but it's no worse than any other LCD/LED screen I've used.
It's certainly not something I can say I've noticed without actually looking for.
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let me just dig out my SLR and take a picture of my screen, I too have "banding" but it's no worse than any other LCD/LED screen I've used.
It's certainly not something I can say I've noticed without actually looking for.
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The banding is much worse than on my old Galaxy Spica (24bit LCD), but the overall screen quality is amazing and I don't notice the banding most of the time.
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The banding is much worse than on my old Galaxy Spica (24bit LCD), but the overall screen quality is amazing and I don't notice the banding most of the time.
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Could it be that people coming from LCD displays are more sensitive to the banding effect?
When I compare the display with my X10i (LCD), the effect is apparent!
Aargh.. the display is so awesome .. why the doggone banding!!!
I played with a SGS2 for 20 minutes today. I was extremely bothered by the pentile on the original, so much that it's one of the main reasons I got rid of it.
Happy to report that there is NO pentile whatsoever on the new version and it looks exactly like a 4.3" 800x480 LCD does, but with SAMOLED Plus colors and contrast Pixels are pixels, like they should be.
I haven't had the Galaxy S, but my girlfriend uses the iphone 4, and I would say the Galaxy S 2 whups the iphone 4 on screen quality ( not resolution ) but over all clarity of images, web pages is alot better ( in my opinion. )
This screen is much better bcause of its real stripe matrix. Compared to a friends iPhone 4 a couple of nights back, particularly in terms of text in the browser. Text on the iPhone is definitely better with its pixel density, but the difference really is not that great at all - he was actually really surprised when I told him the actual resolution, because he thought they looked so close in terms of clarity!
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This screen is much better bcause of its real stripe matrix. Compared to a friends iPhone 4 a couple of nights back, particularly in terms of text in the browser. Text on the iPhone is definitely better with its pixel density, but the difference really is not that great at all - he was actually really surprised when I told him the actual resolution, because he thought they looked so close in terms of clarity!
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The iphone 4 doesnt get colour banding... My SGS II screen looks like its only 16bit colour.....
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The iphone 4 doesnt get colour banding... My SGS II screen looks like its only 16bit colour.....
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I'd bet a lot of money that it IS only 16 bit color right now. Samsungs other amoled screens were only 16 bit color when they came out on the nexus one etc.
I had a Galaxy S and compared them side by side.
There's no question about it - the S II looks ten times better than the original. There's no more of the graininess, and despite the slightly lower pixel density it appears sharper as the fuzzy edges caused by PenTile are gone.
Colours are also smoother since the slight graininess is gone.
HI All
Now we have time to play with our new phones, what do you guys think of the screen and most importantly the sub pixel count , what a difference that has made
For a long time the screen res has ment a lot to me as I wanted a phone with a high res display like the iphone 4 for but without the constraints of Itunes.
Now I feel Samsung have done done them self proud, even the Apple fanboys at Engadget gave it SG2 a very good review.
but what do u guys think ..
does it look sharp....
are the colours amazing
when u zoom in does the text look sharp
have u compared it to an Iphone 4 screen and said... yeah mine looks better( the phone nothing else )
does the adjustment of the colour ( Backgrounf Effect) make the colours look more realistic and not the oversaturated look as befor on the SGS
Please read and comment as I love my screen on the SG2 and think Iphone 4's screen is amazing and a quite a high benchmark to beat and has it been beaten or SG2 needs improvments
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HI All
Now we have time to play with our new phones, what do you guys think of the screen and most importantly the sub pixel count , what a difference that has made
For a long time the screen res has ment a lot to me as I wanted a phone with a high res display like the iphone 4 for but without the constraints of Itunes.
Now I feel Samsung have done done them self proud, even the Apple fanboys at Engadget gave it SG2 a very good review.
but what do u guys think ..
does it look sharp....
are the colours amazing
when u zoom in does the text look sharp
have u compared it to an Iphone 4 screen and said... yeah mine looks better( the phone nothing else )
does the adjustment of the colour ( Backgrounf Effect) make the colours look more realistic and not the oversaturated look as befor on the SGS
Please read and comment as I love my screen on the SG2 and think Iphone 4's screen is amazing and a quite a high benchmark to beat and has it been beaten or SG2 needs improvments
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I'd say this is good, retina better, but 720 & 1080p as some people are asking for is totally over kill. Do pixels really bother you that much?
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Slightly brighter than my SGS 1 .
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iPhones screen is better, and video is clearer on iPhone 4 because of the screen. but this is still the second best screen in my eyes.
if res is everything to you get the gs3 when it comes out, it should have 300dpi screen, so iPhone won't have any advantages left in it's pockets.
root and change dpi size to 182
It will look awesome.
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iPhones screen is better, and video is clearer on iPhone 4 because of the screen. but this is still the second best screen in my eyes.
if res is everything to you get the gs3 when it comes out, it should have 300dpi screen, so iPhone won't have any advantages left in it's pockets.
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Videos dont look better on the iPhone for a number of reasons, the main one being the puny size of its screen. For a start its too small, its also the wrong shape making anything you play either letterbox badly or crop. The iPhone also cant handle high bitrate HD MKV movies like the SGS2 can.
Its not all about resolution with screens. I think as a package the SGS2 screen beats the Retina.
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Videos dont look better on the iPhone for a number of reasons, the main one being the puny size of its screen. For a start its too small, its also the wrong shape making anything you play either letterbox badly or crop. The iPhone also cant handle high bitrate HD MKV movies like the SGS2 can.
Its not all about resolution with screens. I think as a package the SGS2 screen beats the Retina.
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agreed! the native support for avi, mkv etc and the vivid nature of omled is brilliant.
Id like to ask, does anyone know if there are going to be any tweaks coming out that are for the S3's still's camera?
I personally find that if i'm shooting pics in my garden, that the grass looks luminous green, and over-saturated.
Now, not starting a war here - i sold my 4S to get an S3, but i do find the S3 images a fair bit less realistic than my old iPhone
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Id like to ask, does anyone know if there are going to be any tweaks coming out that are for the S3's still's camera?
I personally find that if i'm shooting pics in my garden, that the grass looks luminous green, and over-saturated.
Now, not starting a war here - i sold my 4S to get an S3, but i do find the S3 images a fair bit less realistic than my old iPhone
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If you are looking the images on your phone, it's because of the Super AMOLED screen...
It tends to oversaturate colors, thats normal.
But I know that the camera also oversaturate colors a little bit, nothing big, but it does.
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Id like to ask, does anyone know if there are going to be any tweaks coming out that are for the S3's still's camera?
I personally find that if i'm shooting pics in my garden, that the grass looks luminous green, and over-saturated.
Now, not starting a war here - i sold my 4S to get an S3, but i do find the S3 images a fair bit less realistic than my old iPhone
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there are a tweaks already available for download that enhances the audio and video bitrate as well as added physical buttons for still images...have a search around.
Just change the many camera settings already available on the handset before shooting...
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Change camera setting before a shot..
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i agree that the super AMOLED screen makes the image look over saturated. Looks great on the phone screen but poor once you open the file on a computer. I like to experiment with different settings and then touch up the images in post. just keep in mind that lighting is on your side, you just have to know how to manage the amount of light taken in by the camera
I'm still testing out the features and hope to get a good setting but honestly i find that my photos using my old HTC Sensation were better quality.
Also, i have edited the media_profiles.xml file and increased the bitrate, that is my tweak. anything else would be on the user.
First off anyone claiming iphone 4s photos are more realistic than photos on s3 is telling a few porkies especially if they use Hdr on 4s as that makes iphone pics look as unreal as it gets. Secondly the photos on s3 blow the 4s away regardless of the mythical over saturation of colours.
Take any pics on s3 and ip4s side by side on auto in a variety of situations and I guarantee the iphone pics will be sub standard 99 percent of the time, colour balance or no.
Sgs3 takes as good photos as my cannon powershot 14mp easily.
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i agree that the super AMOLED screen makes the image look over saturated. Looks great on the phone screen but poor once you open the file on a computer. I like to experiment with different settings and then touch up the images in post. just keep in mind that lighting is on your side, you just have to know how to manage the amount of light taken in by the camera
I'm still testing out the features and hope to get a good setting but honestly i find that my photos using my old HTC Sensation were better quality.
Also, i have edited the media_profiles.xml file and increased the bitrate, that is my tweak. anything else would be on the user.
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Really you think the Sensation took better pictures?
I have a HTC Sensation and the picture quality from this phone is shocking in all but the best daylight conditions, and even then it's no match for the S3 or the S2 for that matter, as for video quality on the Sensation not even gonna go there lol
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Really you think the Sensation took better pictures?
I have a HTC Sensation and the picture quality from this phone is shocking in all but the best daylight conditions, and even then it's no match for the S3 or the S2 for that matter, as for video quality on the Sensation not even gonna go there lol
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yea so far. but i need to fully test the camera on the s3. i still prefer using the htc sense camera on the sensation.
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I just sold my transformer prime infinity...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
Well I was just looking around here and I don't have a Nexus 10. I got a Galaxy Note 10.1 and from my experience the picture matters a lot.
I mean there are a lot of wallpaper sites with ultra HD and optimized wallpapers for retina display, but the same resolution is not always the same sharpness. some are crappy cropped or zoomed.
Use quickpic to set your background picture. The stock gallery app sometimes crops the pictures false.
And pictures with a resolution below the maximum resolution will always look a bit crappy. that means that when you are using a fullHD picture, which was nice for transformer prime, it can look less sharp on a display with higher resolution like nexus 10
I too come from Prime and there is no contest, this screen is sharper than Prime by miles.
How stuff looks will depend on what you are seeing.
If you have set regular wallpaper, it will look all blurry thanks to resolution. Even so called HD wallpapers will look blurry on this. You need to go search for wallpapers for MacBook Pro retina and use those on this tablet using quickpic. None of the apps from Android market have good wallpapers that are having native resolution of this tablet.
Text is sharp and crisp on this.
Most arcade games are not optimised for this screen and look terrible or blurry. That is not screen's fault.
Desktop web pages look nice full and crisp. So only real issue of lack of sharpness comes into picture when the content is not ready for screen. That includes apps, images and games.
I also come from Prime.
I wouldn't say the Prime screen looks sharper than the Nexus 10. Reading text on the N10, for example, the resolution is really amazing, very nice on the Nexus 10.
The colors and brightness and blacks is a different story. The Prime had those 3 much nicer than the Nexus 10. I loved playing Marble Blast on the Prime, the graphics looked amazingly vivid. On the Nexus 10 they appear as meh.
Its the prime infinity. Drastic difference. What a shame. Gonna put the nex up 4sale.
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I just sold my transformer prime...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
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It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
404 ERROR said:
It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
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I actually have to disagree with you a little bit here. 720p video should look just as good on the Nexus 10 as it does on the Note 10.1. 1280x800 times 2 is 2560x1600. Because of that each pixel of a 720p video will take up exactly 4 pixels on the Nexus 10; however those 4 pixels on the N10 are the same area that would be a single pixel on the Note 10.1. This is a clean ratio. On the TF700 you got to 1920x1200 which is 1.5 times 1280x800. This is not a whole ratio and means that pixels of a 720p video will take up between 1 and 4 pixels on the TF700 display (determined by a fancy algorithm for scaling images).
The Nexus 10 playing 1080p video should have about the same blurriness as the TF700 playing 720p video.
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Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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Lol as a former owner of both (returned Prime C1 for 700 a C6 then returned that, and I started the thread in Prime forums for users who Asus lost our first mailed GPS dongles)- your fooling yourself or you got a N10 with a bad screen
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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The problem with this screen is calibration and black levels.
Colors are extremely washed, red is a poor red, same with blue. This totally kills the screen. If you compare this with ipad screen, you will cry. Not because of viewing angles, not because of brightness, because of colours. Google was really smart when they decided not to calibrate their screens, same with nexus 4, while other OEMs take care of this thing deeply.
And black, despite numbers of the reviews, its quite poor, mostly because every single unit has light bleed (some with a hard mess, others this problem is smaller)
As a result, a top screen with such a poor implementation. This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one, with many pixels, but nothing else. And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
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And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
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light bleed is not a software issue
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light bleed is not a software issue
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Yep, meant the calibration thing, it's about software. Black thing is because a bad manufacturing process, probably because of low price tag., or crappy manufacturers.
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You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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Wow...that blows. Maybe we need a 4.1 ROM??
I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
Yep, I completely agree with one of the previous posters, this is definetly a black level issue. I put the iPad with a Retina Display right against a Nexus 10 both playing the same 1080i MKV. The iPad clearly won.
I still like the Nexus 10 a lot and I find it very comfortable to use because of how thin it is and how light it is, but to improve the product I think Google missed it some here. They could lowered the resolution considerably (1920 x 1080 is more than fine), improved on black level, and used the same processor. The lower resolution would have allowed that processor to scream since it wouldn't have been as taxed to interpolate so many pixels.
I don't know if it is a software issue or not, but if it is I really hope Google releases a fix. If there was a way to adjust Gamma or Contrast it might help considerably.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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There's no way on earth text (or other computer generated content like the UI and icons) will look better on a 147PPI display (Prime) vs. 224PPI (TF700) or 300PPI (N10). The reason is as 404 Error did a great job of explaining is that text is a 1:1 match pixel wise; the more pixels the sharper the image. Photos and videos display even the clearest content over multiple pixels so the advantage of a higher PPI becomes less pronounced. And the human eye (even yours) can't resolve sharpness over 229PPI beyond 15". So, your 20/20 eyes are decieving you. The N10 has less contrast and isn't as bright as older displays so that might be what you're reacting to.
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This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one,
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well lets hope this guy will change that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9H-TtObBY
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I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
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Mine has this problem and so do at least a few others. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007676
I'm still debating if it annoys me enough to justify an exchange.
So i got a note 3, hoping to have a sharper screen than my Galaxy S3, boy was i wrong! Does anyone else see that when zooming in or even just viewing pictures in the gallery (not even ones taken with camera) they come up looking low quality? Almost blotchy? I go to look at the same exact picture on my s3 and on my laptop and oh man the s3 and laptop beat out the Note 3 by miles. The pictures are crystal clear on the s3 and laptop....
does anyone else have this issue? Know what im talking about? Is there a fix?
Are you high? I had the S3 a while back and this display is far superior in color and detail...
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Are you high? I had the S3 a while back and this display is far superior in color and detail...
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im thinking it has to do with the fact that these screens use the "diamond" type of pixels or something. The way it displays image quality is just awful (not with all images, but a lot of downloaded pictures from the internet. Things id like to set as wallpaper etc. They look great on the s3 and laptop, but terrible, blotchy and blocky on the note 3)
anyone??
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anyone??
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I've gone from using my 1080p laptop, old S3, and ONe X and by far the Note 3's quality blows them all out of the water... Not only is the pixel density super high but the quality of display is flat out the best their is. This is objectively and factually speaking of course.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
Also, make sure the source your downloading form is high quality stuff. The picture needs to be at least 1920x1080 to take advantage of all those pixels. Anything less the phone will stretch out...
As far is the 'diamond pixel' arrangement, you are probably referring to the pentile matrix that the Note 3 uses. There are some benefits to this style, versus RGB that is more commonly used, but I don't particularly like it. The problem is that it effectively uses less pixels - well, technically subpixels - than 'normal'. If you compare a Galaxy S3 screen to a contemporary's screen, like the One X, you'll see how much clearer the One X screen looks.
HOWEVER
With the standard now being 1080P screens, pentile screens look really, really good. After my note 1, I thought I'd never get a pentile screen again, but with the pixel density being so high with 1080P, there is essentially no graininess with the screen on my Note 3.
You'll see that many phone sites and reviews list the note 3's screen as one of the best, highest quality displays despite being pentile. In fact, my wife's LG G2 has perhaps THE best mobile phone screen (SLCD3), it doesn't look all that much better than my note 3, IMO.
Also, your Galaxy S3 (and S4 for that matter) is a Pentile screen with LOWER resolution, so my guess is that it's not that screen but perhaps the pictures that you are viewing. Are the pictures exactly the same as far as resolution and compression? I have yet to see a blurry grainy picture on my Note 3 that looked clear on another phone.
The note 3 screen is much much better than the S3 screen, and they use the same tech. Unless you are using a microscope...
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As far is the 'diamond pixel' arrangement, you are probably referring to the pentile matrix that the Note 3 uses. There are some benefits to this style, versus RGB that is more commonly used, but I don't particularly like it. The problem is that it effectively uses less pixels - well, technically subpixels - than 'normal'. If you compare a Galaxy S3 screen to a contemporary's screen, like the One X, you'll see how much clearer the One X screen looks.
HOWEVER
With the standard now being 1080P screens, pentile screens look really, really good. After my note 1, I thought I'd never get a pentile screen again, but with the pixel density being so high with 1080P, there is essentially no graininess with the screen on my Note 3.
You'll see that many phone sites and reviews list the note 3's screen as one of the best, highest quality displays despite being pentile. In fact, my wife's LG G2 has perhaps THE best mobile phone screen (SLCD3), it doesn't look all that much better than my note 3, IMO.
Also, your Galaxy S3 (and S4 for that matter) is a Pentile screen with LOWER resolution, so my guess is that it's not that screen but perhaps the pictures that you are viewing. Are the pictures exactly the same as far as resolution and compression? I have yet to see a blurry grainy picture on my Note 3 that looked clear on another phone.
The note 3 screen is much much better than the S3 screen, and they use the same tech. Unless you are using a microscope...
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same pictures, same files, it just looks like the phone is rendering the image and it is doing it wrong.
ok so let me attempt at making an analogy type of thing. When theres a low resolution image and you zoon in,normally it gets all blocky and distorted yes? Sometimes thing dont go blocky, they go blurry and almost have that "oil painted" look when zoomed in too far. That very look is how my note 3 is handling some images without even zooming in. whereas on my s3, they were crystal clear, and on the laptop they were as well. On my laptop i can see specific lines and details in the image that dont even show with my note 3 because of the way the image is being displayed in a awful manner. its almost as if certain parts of the image are blurry and blotchy. But only on the note 3 screen. (and no, its not that part of the screen, cause of course everything else like play store looks normal and gorgeous) so i think im just upset in how the note 3 is handling image processing.
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same pictures, same files, it just looks like the phone is rendering the image and it is doing it wrong.
ok so let me attempt at making an analogy type of thing. When theres a low resolution image and you zoon in,normally it gets all blocky and distorted yes? Sometimes thing dont go blocky, they go blurry and almost have that "oil painted" look when zoomed in too far. That very look is how my note 3 is handling some images without even zooming in. whereas on my s3, they were crystal clear, and on the laptop they were as well. On my laptop i can see specific lines and details in the image that dont even show with my note 3 because of the way the image is being displayed in a awful manner. its almost as if certain parts of the image are blurry and blotchy. But only on the note 3 screen. (and no, its not that part of the screen, cause of course everything else like play store looks normal and gorgeous) so i think im just upset in how the note 3 is handling image processing.
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Perhaps go compare the same photo at a Sprint store (or any other retailer).
I've looked close up on hundreds of original res photos between my laptop, Nexus 7 2013, and this phone, with the laptop and the phone at 1080p, and the phone looks perfect. I used for just this question a photo I threw in my Dropbox account, and zoomed in close.
Perhaps you've got a bad phone. If so, you'll be able to return it.
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micmars said:
Perhaps go compare the same photo at a Sprint store (or any other retailer).
I've looked close up on hundreds of original res photos between my laptop, Nexus 7 2013, and this phone, with the laptop and the phone at 1080p, and the phone looks perfect. I used for just this question a photo I threw in my Dropbox account, and zoomed in close.
Perhaps you've got a bad phone. If so, you'll be able to return it.
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im going to screenshot to compare and show you guys so no one thinks im crazy lol
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im going to screenshot to compare and show you guys so no one thinks im crazy lol
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Ok so heres a comparison. A good picture to show details indeed. Tattoo quality etc. Notice on the note how minor details get "blurred" and distorted. and thats zoomed in. The same zoom was applied to the one on the laptop. And on the S3 it looks just like the laptop
The Note 3 processes images differently, and i hate it. See what i mean by low image quality?
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Ok so heres a comparison. A good picture to show details indeed. Tattoo quality etc. Notice on the note how minor details get "blurred" and distorted. and thats zoomed in. The same zoom was applied to the one on the laptop. And on the S3 it looks just like the laptop
The Note 3 processes images differently, and i hate it. See what i mean by low image quality?
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no one has anything to say about that? Same picture, same zoom, same everything. Just different device. and i gotta say, im really disappointed in the note 3 pulling that crap
I believe you are describing something that bothers you (histrionics in the thread title notwithstanding), and have shown one example to convey your frustration to others (your concerns are valid, in my opinion). This may not be the best route, as most love this screen. Furthermore, the issue you have is far from simple; the realm of screen resolution, graphics processing, pixel rendering, color accuracy, &c is a highly complex system. Change just one variable in the controlled environment (file viewer, for example), and everything else changes.
Let us try another route. Here is a photo, in its original resolution (10MB file size), taken with the Canon EOS 70D, from the site DPReview.com,
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...813603&Signature=pmyXwtQ2d4TtXROo9/Q2uwfH69w=
I suggest that folks look at this on their own from different devices, draw their own inferences, and perhaps provide some feedback.
I just looked at that photo from Chrome on my Nexus 7 2013 and this phone (color set to movie mode). I think that the fine details in the hair, wrinkles in the guy's face, the wings on the purple costume, all look spectacular, with less matting and moire, from the GN3. The backlight on the Nexus does lend for a different viewing experience, but as far as native compression on that photo, I am not seeing it on this phone at all.
Here's another photo, just for kicks (macro shot),
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...823691&Signature=1qsPty4pho4xKLglvILtUNJWENA=
After looking at the flower, especially the water drops on the far right petals, I'm completely happy with the fine details on this screen. It's pretty amazing.
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You would notice more distortion on a higher screen resolution and bigger screen. A better comparison would be done with two devices with at least the same exact resolution. N3 and S4
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You would notice more distortion on a higher screen resolution and bigger screen. A better comparison would be done with two devices with at least the same exact resolution. N3 and S4
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Agreed. I believe that if you look at those two photos to which I linked from your Note 3, they'll look pretty dang good. I see none of the flattening of fine detail that the OP noticed. At full size, they look pitch-perfect. The pics posted earlier seem like some severe lossy compression is going on, either from within the viewer, or something is wrong with the GPU.
Also, from what I've read, both the SIII and Note 3 use RGB pentile pixel arrays, with the Note 3 providing higher resolution than the SIII.
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You guys can bash me if you want. OP if you want great pics take a DSLR. Ten years ago cell phones could barely text. It is after all a cell phone first. If you don't like it get rid of it. I'm more than happy with my Note 3.
micmars said:
I believe you are describing something that bothers you (histrionics in the thread title notwithstanding), and have shown one example to convey your frustration to others (your concerns are valid, in my opinion). This may not be the best route, as most love this screen. Furthermore, the issue you have is far from simple; the realm of screen resolution, graphics processing, pixel rendering, color accuracy, &c is a highly complex system. Change just one variable in the controlled environment (file viewer, for example), and everything else changes.
Let us try another route. Here is a photo, in its original resolution (10MB file size), taken with the Canon EOS 70D, from the site DPReview.com,
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...813603&Signature=pmyXwtQ2d4TtXROo9/Q2uwfH69w=
I suggest that folks look at this on their own from different devices, draw their own inferences, and perhaps provide some feedback.
I just looked at that photo from Chrome on my Nexus 7 2013 and this phone (color set to movie mode). I think that the fine details in the hair, wrinkles in the guy's face, the wings on the purple costume, all look spectacular, with less matting and moire, from the GN3. The backlight on the Nexus does lend for a different viewing experience, but as far as native compression on that photo, I am not seeing it on this phone at all.
Here's another photo, just for kicks (macro shot),
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...823691&Signature=1qsPty4pho4xKLglvILtUNJWENA=
After looking at the flower, especially the water drops on the far right petals, I'm completely happy with the fine details on this screen. It's pretty amazing.
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I know what everyone is saying. Like I understand what you guys are saying. But I'm asking WHY an older device (my s3) can handle showing images sharper, clearer, and better. It doesn't make sense to me. How the exact same file, can look like crap on a brand new note 3, and look gorgeous on my S3 and laptop. It's not just this image. It's pretty much every image that isn't the exact resolution of the screen. And it's annoying. I expected more.
Can anyone explain to me, (as shown in my screenshot comparison) why images on my note 3 are looking like that, versus my s3 and laptop? That's all im looking for here. An answer as to why the note 3 can't handle proper image processing.
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aplacetorest said:
I know what everyone is saying. Like I understand what you guys are saying. But I'm asking WHY an older device (my s3) can handle showing images sharper, clearer, and better. It doesn't make sense to me. How the exact same file, can look like crap on a brand new note 3, and look gorgeous on my S3 and laptop. It's not just this image. It's pretty much every image that isn't the exact resolution of the screen. And it's annoying. I expected more.
Can anyone explain to me, (as shown in my screenshot comparison) why images on my note 3 are looking like that, versus my s3 and laptop? That's all im looking for here. An answer as to why the note 3 can't handle proper image processing.
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Download this file to both devices, view it from the gallery in landscape mode, zoom in on just the petals so that the right ones with the water drops fill your screen, post each here. Just the SIII and Note 3, not the laptop. For the Note 3, I suggest from display settings choose screen mode as movie, select save, and deselect auto adjust screen tone. Shot below is from my Note 3.
To the OP:
It could very well be that the gallery version in our notes is different to that of the S3.
Try different gallery apps. One in particular that I like most is QuickPic. To me its faster and renders pictures a bit better than the stock Galaxy gallery apps.
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To the OP:
It could very well be that the gallery version in our notes is different to that of the S3.
Try different gallery apps. One in particular that I like most is QuickPic. To me its faster and renders pictures a bit better than the stock Galaxy gallery apps.
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Agreed, QuickPic is awesome. Also the viewer included with ES File Explorer, the AOSP gallery included with many of the roms on this site, and others are excellent alternatives.
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micmars said:
Agreed, QuickPic is awesome. Also the viewer included with ES File Explorer, the AOSP gallery included with many of the roms on this site, and others are excellent alternatives.
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Yeah im an avid QuickPic user, but no matter the gallery i use, the images still show like they do as i posted. Even 1920x1080 pictures. I can make another comparison shot if everyone likes. I just dont understand it.
Did i get a bad phone? Or is this just how its handled on the note 3?