Sense on Galaxy s3? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,I like so much Galaxy S3,but for mt HTC sense is the best UI for smartphone!
There is some possibility that GS3 will have a porting of the HTC sense?

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maybe, someday
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and so it begins
inb4 buy One X
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If you want sense buy a one X

Once I get my Sense Note ported It might be able to be ported from Note --> S3.

Reviewers said:
Once I get my Sense Note ported It might be able to be ported from Note --> S3.
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But even if you can get it ported to the Note (actually your "friend's" do this), you have to start from the beginning here as it's another hardware. ->processor

Ansem said:
Hi,I like so much Galaxy S3,but for mt HTC sense is the best UI for smartphone!
There is some possibility that GS3 will have a porting of the HTC sense?
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it's a joke?
why you bought Samsung if you want HTC Sense!

ilbulgaro89 said:
it's a joke?
why you bought Samsung if you want HTC Sense!
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Simple: Sense 4 wins over TW. But, removable battery and sdcard slot win over the one x's non removable battery and no slot.
If sense can be ported, it'd be win win..since you cant exactly mod a onex to have the battery + sdcard capabilities.

I'm using sense right now and its terrible compared to touchwiz. Just more give it a little time it will grow on you and it will be way more functional than sense.

ilbulgaro89 said:
it's a joke?
why you bought Samsung if you want HTC Sense!
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It's called personal preference....he prefers the hardware of the Samsung but the UI of Sense. Why does everyone always question why the next man wants or does something? The fact that can even do this kind of stuff is awesome, embrace it. Could have an iPhone and be stuck with nothing more than themes.

willisjm193 said:
Simple: Sense 4 wins over TW. But, removable battery and sdcard slot win over the one x's non removable battery and no slot.
If sense can be ported, it'd be win win..since you cant exactly mod a onex to have the battery + sdcard capabilities.
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One more simple thing...touchwiz is better than sense
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kirdroid said:
One more simple thing...touchwiz is better than sense
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So that's why ppl are still trying to port a sense Rom on GS1?

xchasa said:
So that's why ppl are still trying to port a sense Rom on GS1?
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Ok gs1? That is crap touchwiz and so old, can't believe you even mentioned that here. Now its so much better. Do you even have the sgs3 or just trolling here?
Even sense was crap to start with and every iteration it improves. In my opinion touchwiz is much smoother. Ok i will give the weather widget to sense.
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wait. am i reading this correctly..sense (barf) on galaxy s3..oh my goodness

kirdroid said:
Ok gs1? That is crap touchwiz and so old, can't believe you even mentioned that here. Now its so much better. Do you even have the sgs3 or just trolling here?
Even sense was crap to start with and every iteration it improves. In my opinion touchwiz is much smoother. Ok i will give the weather widget to sense.
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Not trolling mate. Stating facts...
GS1.
GS2.
And now requests on GS3.
I do have a GS3. It's being used by one of my employees.
But I use my HOX for personal use.
I'm loving sense 4 and fortunately my unit is fault free.
And I agree. Weather and sense flip clock widget are nice.
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xchasa said:
Not trolling mate. Stating facts...
GS1.
GS2.
And now requests on GS3.
I do have a GS3. It's being used by one of my employees.
But I use my HOX for personal use.
I'm loving sense 4 and fortunately my unit is fault free.
And I agree. Weather and sense flip clock widget are nice.
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Cool man...think doesn't hurt to have choice. It's all personal preference on which one is better.
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I'm looking to get Sense on the galaxy s3 as well, if worse comes to worse I'm sure I could look at developing a custom sense launcher

mox123 said:
I'm looking to get Sense on the galaxy s3 as well, if worse comes to worse I'm sure I could look at developing a custom sense launcher
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That would be nice and I'm sure a lot of people are waiting for that.

Tbh I think a good clean aosp build would be better, the Samsung firmware right now is based on IMM76D, aosp is on IMM76L and contains some of the linaro optimisations and we could do with that. Its the latest code available.
Sense would be nice but a nice clean unbloated aosp rom would be my main priority.

Sense= bloated but nice theme/colors
Like it more then aosp, doubt sense would run good but I would try it just for fun
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I would like to se Sense on the S3 to.
I always had HTC Phones before and this year I bought the S3, my first Samsung.
The first thing I noted with Touchwiz was, that I can´t make Shortcuts to
Direct Dial, Direct Message, etc.
That was so easy with my Sense 3,5.
Maybe I just dont know how to use Touchwis.. But I prefer Sense.

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Sense HD?

Hi
I am only getting this phone because it is the best specification phone I haven't tried the touch Whizzo but HTC make the best software but not phones unfortunately
So I am asking will any1 be able to port sense HD?
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Well I've made a Sense theme for CM7, so as soon as the Galaxy S2 gets CM7, which I'm sure will happen fast, you can use the theme on it... far easier than porting a sense rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11660869
edit: then again, you still won't have sense app enhancements and stuff, but something is better than nothing right?
why does everyone want this.. the phne is not even out yet.. if you really want sense go buy a htc phone ad quit whinning.
thanks for the theme,
and yeah i do have a htc phone but this samsung galaxy s 2 has the best specs than any htc phone so this phone combined with htc sense will be a beast!
Does any one think this can happen?
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Sense is overrated.
Yes you should be able to use HTCs Sence UI because Exynos is using NEON whereas Tegra2 doesnt.
Depends which 1 phones 4 u supplies because there are to versions
kingzero666 said:
Yes you should be able to use HTCs Sence UI because Exynos is using NEON whereas Tegra2 doesnt.
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Yeah but the widget are amazing
MikeyMike01 said:
Sense is nearly as bad as TouchWiz. AOSP should be (and will be) the goal.
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Meh, I was never too fond of Sense. Using my friend's Inspire for a few minutes though, I found that it was nicer than all of the other stock launchers.
I didn't like not being able to edit the total number of screens though.
I too, am interested in this. It gives people options so why not port Sense over? I want to see whether they can port all those cool features over like flipping their phone over to silence a call or ringing louder in a bag.
What about sense 3.0 the sgs2 with the new sense will be amazing
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faddys123 said:
What about sense 3.0 the sgs2 with the new sense will be amazing
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No please not the disney version of sense.
Don't get me wrong, but those colors on the sensation....brrrr..... welcome to disney.
I would really love to see a Sense port but it will be very hard to port it... the only successful ports are for devices with identical specs - example Sense from Desire on Nexus One...
There was a port for the Galaxy S but it had too much things that don't work and were very hard to solve (as Sense and drivers are not open source)...
Loved sense on windows mobile especially combined with the white GTX theme on my hd2,
but can't say I'm a big fan of it on android. Weird, I know, or maybe not so weird,
since I like a minimal clean look better, not screens cluttered with widgets.
Am tied in between in getting a sensation or sgs2 hardware wise galaxy s 2 wins but HTC sense is far better than touch wiz that's why we need a port
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I'd like to see a sense port. However only for the sake of having a bigger variety of roms to flash.
I found that when I had my Inspire that Sense was way to bloated for me. I gave it a fair shot but for now I prefer TW over Sense. But AOSP > Any carrier software.
I would just stick with TouchWiz or go for AOSP if possible. Sense looks cool and all, but a port is as easy as it seems. More so, theming will be the solution for time being.
d3sm0nd said:
I would really love to see a Sense port but it will be very hard to port it... the only successful ports are for devices with identical specs - example Sense from Desire on Nexus One...
There was a port for the Galaxy S but it had too much things that don't work and were very hard to solve (as Sense and drivers are not open source)...
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Actually this is false http://www.xda-developers.com/android/nexus-s-gets-a-desire-s-port-and-sense/

[Q] [QUERY] HTC SENSE on GALAXY S2

well i really really want to buy Galaxy S2 ... its just that I feel I would be missing out on HTC Sense if I go with this one instead of HTC EVO 3D !
Question to ROM DEVS:
Is there any chance of getting htc Sense PORTED to GALAXY S2 ??
Would like to say yes but no... If it was ever ported it would be crippled beyond belief, to the point where you would prefer a HTC Hero)
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No
And search please
This has been asked around 45 times
Atleast i've read that many threads about it
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Blomkungen said:
No
And search please
This has been asked around 45 times
Atleast i've read that many threads about it
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if a lot of people is asking for it , that´s because it´s good and they want.
Don´t me rude man . I don´t know if u like sense or not , but it´s a personal opnion and i TOTALLY support sense on galaxy s II.
Best Hardware + Best Software =
Why wouldn't there be a way? Is it just HTC has locked it or is it just THAT complex to do...?
GXFX said:
if a lot of people is asking for it , that´s because it´s good and they want.
Don´t me rude man . I don´t know if u like sense or not , but it´s a personal opnion and i TOTALLY support sense on galaxy s II.
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If they wanted it that badly they would of bought a sensation
Simple as that
Hardware specs dont differ that much in this case
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Use launcherpro and its HTC themed widgets?
Its not the real SENSE, but it looks more or less similar...
wind79 said:
Use launcherpro and its HTC themed widgets?
Its not the real SENSE, but it looks more or less similar...
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still only you will get old sense v2 feel.but newer sense 3 in sensation is cool,if any one ported that will be cool.
Post in the right place... Geez
And try searching.
Anything is possible, but the output is likely useless, with a barely working rom tbh
As a point of reference, Sense ports on SGS1 were all dead in the water.
Just don't hold too much hope for it. It ain't coming in working form anytime soon.
using laucherpro and other widgets can give you the sense look...
Paper Ape said:
using laucherpro and other widgets can give you the sense look...
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congratz but then you are missing the apps, the lockscreen, the functionality of widgets, the theme support, instant camera access and and and...
i would have chosen the sensation if it would have had 1gb ram instead of 768mb

Any chance we will ever see sense 4.0?

I was just curious, 3.6 looks pretty much the same as 3.0. Little disappointed, I feel that 4.0.3 can't shine through the sense theme. I installed CM9 on my buddy's Sensation and it looks fantastic.
We will only see it if a developer falls from the sky and shines us with it.
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We will only see it if a developer falls from the sky and shines us with it.
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I start praying to the dev gods now!
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Claims that they (HTC, T-Mobile, anyone) don't want to "disrupt" our user experience with 3.0 on the Amaze are BS, IMHO. Problems with Sense 3.0 do NOT need to be continued ... and the enhancements due with Sense 4.0 are, I think, owed us. I bought this phone specifically because an ICS update in 2012 had already been promised.
I want landscape home screens. I want Car Mode restored. I want a better Dock Mode.
If ICS arrives with same ol' Sense overlay, and the problems I've had with three handsets not fixed, I may not even update.
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Claims that they (HTC, T-Mobile, anyone) don't want to "disrupt" our user experience with 3.0 on the Amaze are BS, IMHO. Problems with Sense 3.0 do NOT need to be continued ... and the enhancements due with Sense 4.0 are, I think, owed us. I bought this phone specifically because an ICS update in 2012 had already been promised.
I want landscape home screens. I want Car Mode restored. I want a better Dock Mode.
If ICS arrives with same ol' Sense overlay, and the problems I've had with three handsets not fixed, I may not even update.
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HTC said sense 4 was built for s4/tegra 3.
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
HTC said sense 4 was built for s4/tegra 3.
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Everything in the Sensation Forums is possible in our phone
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Everything in the Sensation Forums is possible in our phone
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Yeah but it doesn't seem like we have anybody driven to port Sense 4.0. Tis a shame because it seems like it really improved on a lot of weak points that exist in all current Sense UI versions prior to 4.0.
dharvey4651 said:
Yeah but it doesn't seem like we have anybody driven to port Sense 4.0. Tis a shame because it seems like it really improved on a lot of weak points that exist in all current Sense UI versions prior to 4.0.
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I'm gonna take a crack at it possibly... I just want to get my phone activation straight first. (Tmobile sent me a invalid activation code with my sim card)
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
HTC said sense 4 was built for s4/tegra 3.
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hmmm what about the one v, its sporting an s2 and seems to run sense 4.0 fluidly.
then again it doesn't include almost any of the animations but still something to be considered.
Drzfr3shboialex said:
HTC said sense 4 was built for s4/tegra 3.
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That's even more bull****, industrial strength. The Snapdragon processor in the Amaze is certainly up to to the job. You've probably heard that the AT&T One X will have an S4, which isn't too different from the S3 in the Amaze.
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That's even more bull****, industrial strength. The Snapdragon processor in the Amaze is certainly up to to the job. You've probably heard that the AT&T One X will have an S4, which isn't too different from the S3 in the Amaze.
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S4 not different from s3??????? I'd Google that. It has very significant improvements! Even at the same core # and clock speed.

[Q] Poll: Anyone hoping for Sense 4 on SGS3?

Just putting it out there as this would be a match made in heaven for me!
AOSP all the way
Wow haha
I'm crossing my fingers for Blur, or whatever Pantech uses..
Sense is a proprietary product of HTC. Why noy just buy the HTC One X, it has pretty good spec to compete with the S3 and has better physical design.
I wouldn't buy an iPhone in hope of able to install Android to it.
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I wouldn't buy an iPhone in hope of able to install Android to it.
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Which you indeed can do....
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To each their own.
I know its possible, but a good way to ruin a decent OS.
No.
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No.
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I second that lol
No! And even if it did it would never be fully functional
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eksasol said:
Sense is a proprietary product of HTC. Why noy just buy the HTC One X, it has pretty good spec to compete with the S3 and has better physical design.
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Personally what puts me off the One X is the lack of micro sd expansion and battery removal which seems to be the norm (sadly).
I suppose its just wishful thinking, but at least there will probs be a stock ICS rom that is better in my eyes than touch wiz.
This same thread was created during the debuting days of the Galaxy Nexus. Please go look there for answers as to why it wont happen. I hope this thread gets locked. It will only draw trolls and flamers
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To each their own.
Sense 4, hmmmm, ah well here is the clock for a start. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24622910.
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greenie25 said:
Personally what puts me off the One X is the lack of micro sd expansion and battery removal which seems to be the norm (sadly).
I suppose its just wishful thinking, but at least there will probs be a stock ICS rom that is better in my eyes than touch wiz.
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+1000
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greenie25 said:
Personally what puts me off the One X is the lack of micro sd expansion and battery removal which seems to be the norm (sadly).
I suppose its just wishful thinking, but at least there will probs be a stock ICS rom that is better in my eyes than touch wiz.
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I have a one x and don't notice either. I came from a phone with both and I think a removable battery is over hyped and regarding the sd you don't notice unless you have 100 files on your sd card
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it can be port over, buts an alot of work. sense is on many galaxy s'
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
This same thread was created during the debuting days of the Galaxy Nexus. Please go look there for answers as to why it wont happen.
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It's happening right now for the Nexus (albeit quite buggy) so I'm not sure how you can say it definitely won't happen.
Hell no. Sense is nice but no. No. No. No. Don't want any issues with my new S3!
Sense 4 is actually nice.
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To each their own.
For me it would be a match made in HELL.
If I would want Sense I buy a HTC.
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Sense is a proprietary product of HTC. Why noy just buy the HTC One X, it has pretty good spec to compete with the S3 and has better physical design.
I wouldn't buy an iPhone in hope of able to install Android to it.
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+1
Not to mention HTC Sense is a resource hog, it may look good but at what price.
jonny68 said:
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Not to mention HTC Sense is a resource hog, it may look good but at what price.
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True. I just saw my friend today. His first day with a HTC one S. And he was using my HTC Doubleshot. His is stock he won't root he just bought it yesterday.
My phone is running Virtuous Inquisition with is senseless AOSP
.. mine is at standard clock 1.2 ghz. He said "how come your phone is faster than mine"
Sense 4.0 just like Sense always has will take so much of that "edge" off of Android.
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This Sense 4.0 on ICS made me fall back in love with my EVO!

Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
I can't wait to try it on the evo lte. Ill be finally free from touchwiz Never again....
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Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
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yeah i agree newt has truly done an incredible job with this as he always does
agree
Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
I said the same thing when I finally got ics on my touchpad...on a tablet at least, it is very user friendly, and make for a fun exerience! as far as my evo 3d goes, im just gonna wait a few weeks till we get the official update.... I figure it has to happen really soon, because I am not sure when virgin is releasing their evo3d, but boost is releasing their evo design on the 31st, and their website says it will have 4.0.... There is no way in hell a boost or virgin HTC phone will get ics before sprint ones do
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Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
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I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
mellofello420 said:
I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
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I was running it today and it was pretty good, I'm looking forward to warm four dot zero. 3.6 has amazing battery life and sense 4 has fluidity and a new taste. I'm not a fan of 3.0 with ics, but that battery life is amazing. I got about 10 hours before I got to 10% and I'm a pretty heavy user (a lot of Facebook and Voxer over 3g). Usually my phone would last 8 or 7 hours before it died.
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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they are just playing fair with other manufacturers - otherwise moto would make all nexus's and samsung/htc/lg/etc. would all moan about it
Ics hit like the new coke on the street cause the evo ed forums jumpin again lol
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I'm not using a Sense 4.0 ROM (using CleanROM atm), but you are right -- it's like a whole new phone with ICS. I was considering upgrading to a different phone just out of sheer phone boredom, but this ICS has shown me the 3D is still viable for a lot longer.
nandroide said:
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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The Nexus is ok at best, I've tried it and can honestly say that the SII, 3D, and even Note feel more comfortable for usability. Sure, the stock ICS is fluid and is designed around the capabilities of the Nexus, but in the end, you're still playing with a black banana phone with a goofy curved screen.
Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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nandroide said:
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
dangerruss said:
Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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Totally agree newt one s was pure sexy. Loved it but had to go back to 3.6 because I need my bluetooth talk driving company vehicle. Can't wait till the 4g lte Roms hit. Sense 3.6 is a nice improvement from our 3.0 but 4.0 is superb.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
Pawnty said:
Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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There already is one.
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Pawnty said:
Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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I'd say the chances are very good... like 99% chance that there will be a Sense 4.0 ROM that has everything working.
swaze said:
There already is one.
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No there isn't!
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tyler.durden said:
I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
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Not true at all. Opinions are not facts. He felt I'll show you, "most people who buy htc phones do so for the hardware specs, they don't even like sense or know what it is"
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