This is support thread for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480586.
Please post not development related questions here.
Thanks for posting dmesg and logcat for NT8.
Great work so far for the hw accell, any news for reboot and backlight bug?
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Hey Lenardo-
How did you get Netflix to work? I am running the latest build and mine has sound, but no video.
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Hey Lenardo-
How did you get Netflix to work? I am running the latest build and mine has sound, but no video.
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i flashed the zip that kuzma30 posted inthe development thread(last page), it came up with all my apps already installed(i am new at this i probably screwed up something here) i turned on netflix app, worked. fine,
will test mxvideo player via sd card and mxvideo player playing a bluray rip over my network tonite/tomorrow.
in regards to the amazon video player, if i knew how to do the log stuff i'd post it, i have yet to get a running version of linux on a computer at home- we have 5(4 desktops- one not setup and a notebook), once i learn how i will
PROGRESS:
After fixing permissions in CWM, Kuzma's CM9 hasn't rebooted in 10-11 mins and still going!
Watching DBZ in HD for 10 of those 11 minutes.
What permissions did you fix?
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NookTabletsPower said:
PROGRESS:
After fixing permissions in CWM, Kuzma's CM9 hasn't rebooted in 10-11 mins and still going!
Watching DBZ in HD for 10 of those 11 minutes.
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How's battery life?
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Right when I left my Youtube App...
RANDOM REBOOT
The battery didn't drop much even though I was using Youtube in HD for about 15-20 minutes.
It was only atleast 3 or 4% of a drop.
BTW, in CWM, I went to Advanced and chose "Fix Permissions".
Thanks found it
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My opinion on the 3.0 Port
Throwing out the crashes, as it's so pre-alpha it's very expected. It's the fastest rom I've ran on my 8GB Nook tablet. Also the headphone jack is SOOOO Loud. And it's gonna be a keeper as soon as the stability gets better. Battery life should be the last thing worried about.
Dmesg for 8 gb
Posted log + dmesg in the dev thread. Here is the post My post
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Battery life should be the last thing worried about.
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Battery life is quite important for a mobile device. In the case of this kernels development, the devs are looking at battery as related to screen on time and the backlighting issue. So yeah, battery kinda relevant.
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I believe the 3.x kernel should achieve a better battery life than former kernels , as soon as the backlighting issues got fixed .
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I believe the 3.x kernel should achieve a better battery life than former kernels , as soon as the backlighting issues got fixed .
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It can, if the devs can get Ducati M3 working without the battery drain, rebooting, and backlighting (which is the cause of battery drain). The 2.6 kernel only used the Cortex A9 part of the Nook (only has 2 cores), but including the Ducati in for the 3.0 kernel would add the Ducati M3 cores (adding the Ducati M3s would make it 4 cores/quad core total), which would help Video and UI acceleration.
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Battery life is quite important for a mobile device. In the case of this kernels development, the devs are looking at battery as related to screen on time and the backlighting issue. So yeah, battery kinda relevant.
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I meant, since the kernel is WIP, it would be best to worry about stability more than the battery life. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
how do you test?
I have gone back to 5/30/12 daily and have been up for over 1:30:36 minutes per cpu spy.
I have tried each day's daily, but this one is the best for not rebooting on my system. (16gb nt). I played solitaire for most of this time and try all other stuff.
I use GooManager and TWRC to download and flash each day's daily and request backups. Before rebooting I clean caches. Then starting testing...
Check that this is the latest flash, run cpu spy and then os monitor. Then check the weather via browser. If I have not rebooted, then play a few games of Solitaire. Then try a you tube hd. If still ago then try a page with a lot of flash stuff in browser. Then back to Solitaire.
What do you do for testing?
The reboots don't stop me at all. I test heavy applications that would require major Ducati usage.
I am using Kuzma's CM9 Build.
I try out HD in Youtube, including an Original definition (requires heavy video acceleration) that sometimes CM7 can't handle.
I play games that require fast 3d graphics and 2d graphics. You know, games that you usually play on Xbox 360 and PS3 but are ported to iOS and Android.
I use Flash alot in browsers, including watching E3 streaming in HD.
I work Ducati out like a boot camp.
I know Ducati is the reason of rebooting because,
Once I finished the Original definition Youtube video and exited to homescreen, reboot occurs.
Once I finish playing 2 3d games, reboot.
After the 2nd reboot, I check the battery.
Not much drain, probably atleast 10% or more after heavy usage of Ducati. I expected atleast 20% of a drain.
I tried E3 streaming, but after about 10 minutes, reboot bomb.
I work Ducati to see what it can really do.
I stay on Kuzma's build for more testing on Ducati.
So, now I know Ducati's Acceleration is the reason of rebooting.
does the release of samsung source,
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2181708/samsung-sources-galaxy-s3-source-code
help the kernel devs figure out the problems ?
( hmmm, how can i get one of those and not bust my budget wide open ? )
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I use GooManager and TWRC to download and flash each day's daily and request backups. Before rebooting I clean caches. Then starting testing...
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I have installed GooManager and TWRC waiting for the right build to flash and test. (As soon as the re-boot issue is resolved, I will do so.)
Are the steps you listed all that are needed to flash CM9 with the 3.x kernel? (I have a 16gb NT running Team B's CM7) Just want to make sure it is that simple.
Thanks.
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Hey guys I just got NFS: Most Wanted on the ATT Note. The gameplay and the controls are great but the game sort runs in slowmo. Anybody else getting different performance in other ROMS?
I'm running flapjaxx's AOSP ICS rom W/ GPU OC and CPU OC. I assume the slowness is due to the Note's large resolution and it's not quite as optimized as it could be for our phones. It is smooth but just terribly slow.
UPDATE
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE 2
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel and using the kernel from 'better stock' ROM above, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
UPDATE 3
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE 4
In conclusion:
Game is somehow determining the graphics through the kernel
SD Data downloaded is the same on every rom, don't have to download new SD Data.
Some roms perform better than others. I had a lot of luck with Jelly Bean roms on stock kernel, no need to overclock.
Figured I'd give you guys a ranking list from roms. Going from best to worst
1. Latest Jelly Bean Nightly 11/21 Stock Kernel - Great out of car and even faster in car - graphics medium
2. Flapjaxx's FJ Stock Rom Mod - OCGPU/CPU best performance (in car view only) - graphics high
3. Electro's Stock Rom - Stock Kernel with no OC Okay performance in both out of car view and in car view - graphics medium
im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
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That's jelly bean right? I had some problems running games and with graphical glitches in jelly bean until I turned off HW overlay and that stopped my problems.
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I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
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Wow, yeah running in that camera mode is a lot better. Hopefully the fix the issues completely. Thanks for the tip!
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What do you mean?
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Ditto, switching to in-car view is definitely a lot smoother, has decent graphics but looks like the limit of S3 Adreno 225 chip has been reached, this (and other games of similar graphic quality) may be enough reason for me to upgrade to note 2 later. I also have slow down problem with NBA 2K13.
No real graphic glitch however, if you see missing textures it has to be wrong sd data, remember we are Snapdragon NOT Mali.
Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Just tried NFS Most Wanted on Liquid with KK Kernel and no luck. I even tried some build prop tweaks. It just feels too slow. Weird.
Going to try deleting it and redownloading the SD Data instead of restoring it from Titanium. Will report back with results.
EDIT: No go either. Still low frame rates. On a good note however, Liquid Jellybean Rom is probably the most stable of the Jellybeanies.
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE
Tried the OC Kernel on the stock ROM which lead it to being slow again! I'm not sure now what to think. Going to wipe and go back to the 'better stock' kernel not the 'pure stock'.
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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Agreed. Right now there is no way to change graphics quality. Certainly would save me trouble. What I think is happening is that with some Roms and Kernels the game thinks we have higher hardware and cranks up the graphic quality thus slowing down the performance of the game.
What I found is every time I used an OC kernel of some type, the game slows. So it might be a kernel issue.
I just cant comprehend why despite having the same phone and same setup (i.e. rom, kernel etc) we get totally different results.
PS> Tomdg07 props to your state for pushing obama over the 270 he needed to win. Americans totally made up for giving dubya two terms.
I was testing some more Roms yesterday including Black IV and Electro's stock debloated Rom. Black IV had flapjaxx's kernel with the ability to OC and on the Electro was not OCable.
My results were the same. Something about flapjaxx's kernel or kernels with the ability to OC makes the game bump up in graphics thus making it slower. The game must be scanning the clockspeed or something or maybe it's something deeper than that. If I can I want to test out AOSP roms again to see if its the kernel or both the kernel + the rom.
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE: Those of you that are finding this page and reading this post. Look on the front page for what roms are the best for this game.
Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Only form of a backup I have is in the nandroid backup I did before flashing cm10, I suppose I could dig it out of there somehow, but I'll give them a day or two to fix it first
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Has anyone tried it on their rooted Prime? I would love to try it but mine is gone for yet another RMA.
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
Installed on my Stock but rooted prime now. Appears to eliminate all the stock browser lag I used to have. It's now blazing fast, and I can scroll while its still loading stuff which I was never able to do before. Holy mother of all fixes it seems like:good:
I installed it last night on my prime. It does lot for my prime. I also did some of the early investigation to what was really being fixed by this hack. I am glad Cyanogen has confirmed some of my theories. If you are rooted I would highly recommend installing it.
-l4k
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Nope, but I'm just about to. I'll report back. Nice spot. Thanks for sharing.
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Tried this and also read up a bit on what it does. Unfortunately I don't think what this tries to do is an issue on the Prime. This basically makes sure there is always random data available for apps from a location that will block if there's none available. However, when I ran a command that was constantly consuming all the random data (cat /dev/random > /dev null), I could see that the random data was getting consumed but it wasn't causing a perceptibly adverse effect on anything else.
I also just ran the app for a while, and I didn't notice anything being more responsive. It will consume extra battery though.
Take look at my write up on the Google bug. That is what the author originally thought the problem was. What is probably going on is kernel lock contention due to the code that generates entropy when the pool is depleted.
Installed it just now, no discernible effect. Quick reboot... Chameleon launcher, app switching, Chrome, all smooth as butter. I am gobsmacked! I think have a feeling this works well for me because of the number of connections made by Chameleon, logged in accounts (I have 9 accounts logged in at all times) and apps syncing that I regularly exhaust the block device. Add to our already slow IO, any blocking at the kernel level will be multipled.
Going to monitor it some more and report back on battery life and any further observations. Thanks for the share! :good:
To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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it has no effect on any benchmarks so its hard to quantify. for my use it does not make a discernible difference in anything I do with my prime is about the best data you can get.
It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
Will give it a try.
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To all using this: please post some real before & after data. Anecdotes do nothing but cause confusion and misinformation.
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It has no effect whatsoever: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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I have done some benchmarks and it makes no difference to those whatsoever. This bothers me because I can't understand if this is supposed to do nothing, how does my device run orders of magnitude snappier all the time while running this compared with intermittent lag that I usually get (for example: waiting 1-3 seconds for the recent app list to show normally vs instant with this mod) . The CPU governor can't be it: I set cpu to max and use the performance governor and I still have massive lag. I have tried numerous things for I/O: different schedulers, different mount options to reduce writes on reads and improve write speed ie. noatime, nodiratime, discard, and nothing works! I have tried to narrow down a single process that causes the lag, no dice. I know I only have just under 2 days of testing behind me and yes I only have anecdotal evidence but I have been running this a long enough time with absolutely zero lag that I can't say it makes no difference for me. I'll continue testing but so far it has been too long to be placebo IMO.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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The reason why your device *feels* snappier is because constant I/O activity ensures the CPU will remain at rather high clocks, producing the effect of a smoother experience at the expense of massive battery drain. The explanation of increasing the entropy does nothing by itself, you could cause a lot of I/O activity to anywhere in the emmc and it would produce a similar effect.
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Haha benchmarks dont equate to real life performance. Benchmark scores have been decreasing since gingerbread even though the new software makes everything faster
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Indeed. That was my point, benchmark results were unchanged but user experience is different. Hrrrm
Didn't do anything for me. Uninstalled it.
Thanks for finding this
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
f'n around said:
I was skeptical as many are about this. I did not see any improvement in Quadrant scores. I installed this for one reason only and it works!
I stream .m4v movies from my NAS drive to my TV through my TP. Before this was installed I would have problems with stuttering no matter what player I tried. Sometimes I would have problems right away, and depending on the player/movie I could watch about an hour before the stuttering/lag begins. I have been beyond frustrated, especially since my wife has an IPad 2 that plays the same movies flawlessly.
Since installing this I can now play my movies without a hitch. I don't know why, but it works. I only use it for this purpose as my other testing showed no major difference. I turn it off when I am not watching movies as I have read that the battery drain is increased.
I streamed 3 movies this weekend without a problem and 2 of them were back to back and I only used approx 35% battery.
Running AndroWook 1.51 and with 1.6 oc kernal.
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+ 1 here. Running last JB update + rooted, wasn't able to play heavy games since the update to JB when we lost the OC kernel from ICS, games were laggy, freezing,almost unplayable. After seeder.apk installation, <i am again able to play NOVA 3, Batman, Spiderman, Asåhalt 7, without any lag and high FPS, seems even better than when my Prime was on ICS OC to 1600. I don't care about what people say but what I experience o preformance, this is something I've learnt after all those years using Android devices. Give it try expecially if you run heavy apps. Battery is a bit worse, but who cares when the prime isnot overheating and run a lot better.
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I want to install it too, but as I understand there is no root for current JB yet, or am I wrong?!
as the uninstall?
*** 2013-03-20 - NOTE: I'm putting this ROM review on hold. It sounds like 2.3 is coming out soon to resolve some of the problems I encountered, so it'll be more worthwhile to review that instead. *********
Background: I'm committed to trying a new ROM every week or so, and writing up my detailed thoughts on them. This is my second ROM review, after reviewing Nil's Business ICS 2.1.0 last week.
ROM: Infection 2.2
ROM base: based on Cyanogenmod 10.1
Sense?: No HTC Sense
ROM version: 2.2 - 2013-03-06
ROM Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070947
ROM installation date: 2013-03-19
Phone: HTC Rezound
Security: Unlocked and S-OFF
Previous ROM: Nil's Business ICS
Recovery: Amon-Ra 3.1.5
Installation:
copied .zip to root of SD card (file is approx 210 megs)
adb reboot recovery
Wipe All / Factory reset
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik
wipe battery
wipe cache/davlik again
Did all wipes 2x times to make sure
Flash zip. Very quick. About 2 minutes.
Installation Notes: This installation went much quicker than Nils Business. It's also a very small ROM, at 200 megs (and it includes Google apps, which is nice). After installation starts, you'll see an ASCII graphic saying [**** Infection 2.2 *****], but nothing else until it finishes installing. It then boots up into stock Android 4.2, and you continue the activation process.
Errors encountered: One huge error comes up for me right away. After using the phone for 30 seconds or so, the phone would freeze up and reboot. Turns out, the ROM comes with some pretty aggressive voltage and frequency tweaks. I had to go into Kernel Tuner, Voltage, and increment all voltages +12.5 2 times. (The min voltage for the lowest frequency is now 750). This stopped the problems. It was very scary, and it's not cool that a ROM would include aggressive settings like this. It would be better to include safe settings, and have notes on the forum thread about how to further tweak.
Gut reaction: It's pretty awesome to be on stock Android, like my Nexus 7. Everything feels really smooth and fast. And unlike Sense, Android 4.2 just looks futuristic. I do miss a few Sense things though. I do miss the Quick Settings from Sense 4.0, and I miss some of the widgets (like stock quotes, the big HTC clock, etc). But overall, this is a nice way to go.
Quick Testing:
Camera works fine
Wifi works fine
voice and SMS work
Spotify, Pocket Casts, Chrome Beta, Google Drive work fine
Coming soon:
battery life
application compatibility
phone stability
gaming
Again, if you have any questions, or are curious about this ROM, please post some questions, and I'll be happy to run any tests.
Previous ROM reviews:
Nil's Business ICS 4.0.3 v2.1.0
Thanks. I only wish you'd evaluated the 2.3 update I'm soon to drop instead of 2.2 as this has (as you've stated) quite the aggressive undervolting and is corrected in the update.
Thanks again for your evaluation and opinions.
-Neo
Nice writeup.
How long are you testing battery life for? What I've found is that generally, battery life takes about 2-3 days after flashing to settle and become consistent, that's why I'm not updating ROMs for my governor tests.
Clean flashes wipe all battery history and the charge longevity is negatively affected. Just wiping cache or dalvik doesn't do this.
Oh, and even though benchmark results rarely mean something tangible, would you consider benchmarking each ROM to see how they perform against each other?
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Purpeltendire said:
Nice writeup.
How long are you testing battery life for? What I've found is that generally, battery life takes about 2-3 days after flashing to settle and become consistent, that's why I'm not updating ROMs for my governor tests.
Clean flashes wipe all battery history and the charge longevity is negatively affected. Just wiping cache or dalvik doesn't do this.
Oh, and even though benchmark results rarely mean something tangible, would you consider benchmarking each ROM to see how they perform against each other?
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For battery life, I don't have a scientific methodology. My week has a usual pattern (M, T, Th gym in the mornings, work from home, Weds and Fri commute to the office), so I'm going to try and use it as regularly as possible, and see how often I have to plug in. Right now, the 3 ROMs I've tried (Nils, Infection and Tron) all have far superior battery life as compared to stock+root.
As for benchmarks, I think that's a great idea. Is there a set of benchmarks that you would find interesting to help measure a ROM (versus measuring device-to-device?) Maybe Quadrant and Antutu?
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As for benchmarks, I think that's a great idea. Is there a set of benchmarks that you would find interesting to help measure a ROM (versus measuring device-to-device?) Maybe Quadrant and Antutu?
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AnTuTu is definitely more thorough, but I would try both
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IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo said:
Thanks. I only wish you'd evaluated the 2.3 update I'm soon to drop instead of 2.2 as this has (as you've stated) quite the aggressive undervolting and is corrected in the update.
Thanks again for your evaluation and opinions.
-Neo
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Awesome, I'll hold off and review 2.3 when it comes out. I think I was playing around in Kernel Tweaks too much last night, and hosed the phone a bit. Looking forward to 2.3! Amazing stuff, seeing stock JB on our phones. Brilliant!
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For battery life, I don't have a scientific methodology. My week has a usual pattern (M, T, Th gym in the mornings, work from home, Weds and Fri commute to the office), so I'm going to try and use it as regularly as possible, and see how often I have to plug in. Right now, the 3 ROMs I've tried (Nils, Infection and Tron) all have far superior battery life as compared to stock+root.
As for benchmarks, I think that's a great idea. Is there a set of benchmarks that you would find interesting to help measure a ROM (versus measuring device-to-device?) Maybe Quadrant and Antutu?
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I'd favour AnTuTu, as I've used it on my device and a few others, and I know what the scores signify (somewhat). But yeah, as Neo said, why not try both? Nothing wrong with variety.
Does bluetooth work? I need that to work before I can jump to a new rom, but I'd love to get JB on my Rezound.
AndroidCraig said:
Does bluetooth work? I need that to work before I can jump to a new rom, but I'd love to get JB on my Rezound.
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Most certainly does
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Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
nolimit06 said:
Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
Crossvxm said:
I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
nolimit06 said:
It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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Yup you were right depends on the level. First level plays pretty stable. Indoor levels are a disaster. The game is pretty damn optimized if it stays as stable as it does. It is playable on mine, just unpleasant to play, not a dramatic lag. I'm pretty pissed i waited all summer for this game, never released then, and now that it is it requires you to be connected to some sort of internet all the time to play. Groupers depend on wifi, i live in NYC where the best time to play is while on the buses. Buses don't have wifi?!?! How am I to play lol. And my Nexus 7 is mint but the wifi is pretty crappy compared to my girls which has some wear, so here at home even with a good connection i encounter issues playing and the loading also depends on internet believe it or not.
As for roms for the Nexus 7, go with SmoothRom 5.2. Its AOKP based instead of CM. If you've done your homework, AOKP is claimed to be glitchy, but that really doesnt apply to the Nexus 7. And SmoothRom is 99% stable, no crashes, no "Unfortunately BlaBlaBla has stopped working," no fluttering graphical glitches. The 1% instability goes to the fact that at times the stock AOSP browser's Back/Forward/Refresh buttons dissapear. Its stable for daily use. I have it installed on mine and my girls. Only con is that its still stuck on 4.2.2 but the preformance IMO exceeds 4.3 with the tweaks it has.
Kernel-wise, I use M-Kernel to reach the crazy 1.6GHz although I never really clock it that high except when testing preformance differences (it can reach 1.7GHz, the secret is it must be on a single core as NVIDIA points out on their Tegra 3). Franco Kernel gives nice battery life, but theres occasional slowdowns on the entire rom and freezes, at times complete system crashes (not sure if thats only with this rom, i know the latest updates to that kernel suddenly brought that).
So if your looking for a stable, fast, reaponsive rom for the Grouper, think SmoothRom. Kernel is up to you.
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
Sick graphics
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nolimit06 said:
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
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No problem! You wont regret it let me know how it works out! I'm now testing this on the LG Optimus G...wish me luck!
I'm using the Root Browser in Rom Toolbox. I can edit the value in the XML, and it says it's saving, but when I go back in to the file my edit is reverted back to the original.
How can I tell visually if the ultra high graphics are actually enabled?
Hi Guys,
I know my question is probably provocative. But I tried out a few roms:
* Infamous
* CM 10.1 SGHT
* Nameless 4.4
But all of them are not able to play a YouTube video without freezes. Some of them developed extreme lag after using them a while or have strange issues like Nameless - which is actually not surprising at its beta.
Maybe someone can recommend a ROM, it should be Jelly Bean at least. Can live without KitKat. All I am looking for to have something a tad more up to date than the stock one and smooth.
Cheers
Holger
Good luck! Please tell if you found it.
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Han-Droid said:
Good luck! Please tell if you found it.
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Yes I will...
Well I asked for a rom, but what I am figuring out what I need is a new tablet. Again a 10" because I am reading sometimes PDFs on it, but with a better screen and more ram... and maybe not from SAMSUNG. I am disappointeod that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 not even got JB.
This device has never been very good to begin with. Even the original Samsung ROMs did not run things well. It struggled with HD Youtube videos back then too. The truth is the Nvidia Tegra 2 chip was over hyped.
I finally found a rom that plays HD videos om YouTube butter smooth, is very fast and reliable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831040
The stock ICS rom, deodexed, zip aligned and alrrady rooted.
My recommendation is, also to install the A1 Kernel for stock roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
It claims an additional 64MB ram back, so you get 786 instead of standard 722MB and you can overclock of course.
Together with the Nova launcher and Chrome as my browser I am a lot more happy than with the other custom roms in the past 12+ months.
My pad flies and the touch wiz UI feels more ergonomic than all the JB additions...
linuxholgi said:
I finally found a rom that plays HD videos om YouTube butter smooth, is very fast and reliable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831040
The stock ICS rom, deodexed, zip aligned and alrrady rooted.
My recommendation is, also to install the A1 Kernel for stock roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
It claims an additional 64MB ram back, so you get 786 instead of standard 722MB and you can overclock of course.
Together with the Nova launcher and Chrome as my browser I am a lot more happy than with the other custom roms in the past 12+ months.
My pad flies and the touch wiz UI feels more ergonomic than all the JB additions...
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The battery, how is the battery? Don't know if that's old now, but... does it sleep correctly?
daniel_fm said:
The battery, how is the battery? Don't know if that's old now, but... does it sleep correctly?
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I will post later today some screenshots of some tools to have an idea about battery consumption. For me it deep sleeps well and battery is :good: But in detail after 6 - 7 hours of testing.
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The tablet is now almost 7 hours on battery. I used quite a lot today, but not perfectly reflected by the screenshots because I rebooted once. The battery consumption in standby is around ~2.5%/hour. Maybe even less. I also configured my pad, to turn off wireless when in standby and not on AC.
For me it feels like a new tablet. Yesterday evening I watched reviews about 10" tablets and already checked prices. Today I am sure I will not waste money so soon on a new one. The old Galaxy Tab feels so fast and smooth, fun using it.
Only thing annoyed me is the ICS keyboard, without digits when you hold the top row keys. So I replaced it with an actual one and that works beautifully:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657791
For the launcher I chose Nova launcher and I am also using the more up to date Chrome browser. I don't miss anything, its more the opposite. I am grateful to have the TouchWiz UI and some of the Samsung apps back.
For all who wants to give it a try. Just do the factory reset e.g. TWRM offers and flash the ROM. I would boot it once and then flash the A1 kernel. After that its advisable to move the contents of the "0" folder back into the root (your pictures etc are not lost of course). Otherwise it might be confusing for some apps or yourself. You can use ES File Explorer for that (Cut & Paste). With Trickster Mod or any other tool, over clock it to 1400 or to your liking. But even at 1000 it runs great!
best battery for me
stock rooted , debloated - ( uninstalled everything i dont need )
i have this kernel running from early editions and stopped at some version , don't know which ,
worth a try - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877784
So which one did you choose exactly....there are several versions of Toldo's ROMs.....
TIA
linuxholgi said:
I finally found a rom that plays HD videos om YouTube butter smooth, is very fast and reliable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831040
The stock ICS rom, deodexed, zip aligned and alrrady rooted.
My recommendation is, also to install the A1 Kernel for stock roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
It claims an additional 64MB ram back, so you get 786 instead of standard 722MB and you can overclock of course.
Together with the Nova launcher and Chrome as my browser I am a lot more happy than with the other custom roms in the past 12+ months.
My pad flies and the touch wiz UI feels more ergonomic than all the JB additions...
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Han-Droid said:
So which one did you choose exactly....there are several versions of Toldo's ROMs.....
TIA
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Well I chose the WiFi one for the Singapore model. As it was the singaporean model I bought.... Its a matter of your location and model wifi or wifi/3G which ROM you would chose.
No need to go back to ancient versions, i'm using this right now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510198
in addition with some overclock/nova/greenify premium and it is very fast, smooth and reliable, would totally recommend.
Still, I felt a bit sad about KitKat. Wasn't ART going to "make things easier" for low-specs/legacy devices? All i get is hiccups and bad performance :/
linuxholgi said:
The tablet is now almost 7 hours on battery. I used quite a lot today, but not perfectly reflected by the screenshots because I rebooted once. The battery consumption in standby is around ~2.5%/hour. Maybe even less. I also configured my pad, to turn off wireless when in standby and not on AC.
For me it feels like a new tablet. Yesterday evening I watched reviews about 10" tablets and already checked prices. Today I am sure I will not waste money so soon on a new one. The old Galaxy Tab feels so fast and smooth, fun using it.
Only thing annoyed me is the ICS keyboard, without digits when you hold the top row keys. So I replaced it with an actual one and that works beautifully:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657791
For the launcher I chose Nova launcher and I am also using the more up to date Chrome browser. I don't miss anything, its more the opposite. I am grateful to have the TouchWiz UI and some of the Samsung apps back.
For all who wants to give it a try. Just do the factory reset e.g. TWRM offers and flash the ROM. I would boot it once and then flash the A1 kernel. After that its advisable to move the contents of the "0" folder back into the root (your pictures etc are not lost of course). Otherwise it might be confusing for some apps or yourself. You can use ES File Explorer for that (Cut & Paste). With Trickster Mod or any other tool, over clock it to 1400 or to your liking. But even at 1000 it runs great!
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It's true, the tablet is faster and more stable with this rom than KK. I'm going to try it for a while
For mi the only problem is that contacts app doesn't load. I have an exchange account.
Thanks for the advise :good:
jtaparicio said:
It's true, the tablet is faster and more stable with this rom than KK. I'm going to try it for a while
For mi the only problem is that contacts app doesn't load. I have an exchange account.
Thanks for the advise :good:
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I grabbed the latest cm10 from droidbasement.com dated from last August and works like a charm sleeping and performance wise compared to how this tablet usually does.
And that is even 4.1.2 which in my opinion has been one of the best performant and smooth version of Android.
daniel_fm said:
I grabbed the latest cm10 from droidbasement.com dated from last August and works like a charm sleeping and performance wise compared to how this tablet usually does.
And that is even 4.1.2 which in my opinion has been one of the best performant and smooth version of Android.
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Do you have a link for that please?
Honeycomb is the only android version in our tab that can play smooth HD video from YouTube without a single lag.
And among those honeycomb Roms, galaxy task14 is the best.
By the way, omni ROM jelly bean is good, but not good enough to play HD YouTube.
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linuxholgi said:
Yes I will...
Well I asked for a rom, but what I am figuring out what I need is a new tablet. Again a 10" because I am reading sometimes PDFs on it, but with a better screen and more ram... and maybe not from SAMSUNG. I am disappointeod that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 not even got JB.
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Hi, if you found some manufacturer that released JB for same old hardware let me know!
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.me said:
Do you have a link for that please?
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http://droidbasement.com/galaxy/roms/cm10/p4wifi/
Make sure you are on correct recovery.
volja1971 said:
Hi, if you found some manufacturer that released JB for same old hardware let me know!
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http://droidbasement.com/galaxy/roms/cm10/p4wifi/
Make sure you are on correct recovery.
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Which recovery are you using??? Tried to flash this with twrp and no dice.....
In my case the P7500 (3g) I went for:
http://droidbasement.com/galaxy/roms/cm10/p4/
All you need is there, the bootloader, the modem, the recovery.
All .tar.md5 files you flash them with Odin in "Download mode" - "(Volume down + Power) + Volume Up". Since I was fully on it I flashed them all one by one: bootloader, modem and recovery. (PDA button only!)
Once you have that flashed, from terminal you boot into recovery, select install from sideload and from your computer with the tablet connected you do:
adb sideload /your/path/to/cm-10-20130825-UNOFFICIAL-p4.zip (supposedly you have it downloaded somewhere when you reach this step )
Later on when you see the tablet boots normally and everything is alright, you can go to recovery again and install google apps for "CM10" not .1 or anything, CM10! which you can get from here:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps
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Which recovery are you using??? Tried to flash this with twrp and no dice.....
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I am not sure if this will work with Two. It certainly works perfectly with CWM Recovery it is actually right in the folder I pointed out. You should flash it via ODIN. if you do not know how to do this let me know and I will guide you.