Rocker Button Placement - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Love the new EVO. Love. It.
With that said, though, I do have a minor nit to pick. I find myself constantly hitting the volume rockers by accident. I don't know if the larger screen puts my fingers in a different position than when I was holding the old EVO, but I definitely don't recall having this problem before. That, or maybe these buttons are just a lot more sensitive.
Anyone else?

Ive been having the same issue.

I have the issue when I try to take a picture. I end up changing the ringer volume every time. I think it is something I will get used to though. With my Epic, the volume rocker was directly across from the lock/unlock button, so I would change the volume every time I locked the screen. I did get used to it though.

I have the same problem too
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I have the same problem but only because on my Nexus they are right where the power button is. I am still hitting them thinking I will turn the screen off.

One thing is I guess since the screen is bigger sometimes inputting my lock screen gesture it reads part of my palm and resets. Slightly annoying
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Same issue. I think they are MUCH more sensitive, plus phone size puts them at the wrong place for my hand size.
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mtg981 said:
Same issue. I think they are MUCH more sensitive, plus phone size puts them at the wrong place for my hand size.
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Ditto..

same for me as well. kinda annoying but i deal with it

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WHy does HTC keep putitng the power button on top ?

My Brother was checking out my new 3VO over the weekend, he liked it, and is an iPhone guy. But he does make a good point, he can not stand the stupid placement of the power button to activate the phone on. You have to reach you're finger all the way to the top of the phone, and press down hard to wake up the phone.
He says Apple does it right, you just press the thumb button on the bottom of the phone to wake, and is very fast and simple. I have to agree
A better placement would be just below the volume buttons, or left side, just below the charging port.
Man up. Hit the button.
It's not like you're trying to turn on the phone in a gun fight while reloading... it's not that serious.
I prefer it on the top. My buddy just picked up a Samsung Charge & I noticed it has it on the side.
Short fingers seem to be the problem, not placement of the power button. If he's got short limbs, this should be the least of his problems.
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With the button on top I don't have to worry about accidentally turning on the phone when I take it out of my pocket grabbing it from it's sides.
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I actually like it on the top. You're less likely to accidently turn it on in your pocket. And the power button on my EVO 3D is really easy to press without pressing down hard.
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Zorachus said:
My Brother was checking out my new 3VO over the weekend, he liked it, and is an iPhone guy. But he does make a good point, he can not stand the stupid placement of the power button to activate the phone on. You have to reach you're finger all the way to the top of the phone, and press down hard to wake up the phone.
He says Apple does it right, you just press the thumb button on the bottom of the phone to wake, and is very fast and simple. I have to agree
A better placement would be just below the volume buttons, or left side, just below the charging port.
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Damn your lazy
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It was all a matter of patterned behavior.. I had the Evo and switched to Epic. I then had to learn to press it on the side. I switched to Evo 3d and I have to retrain again. Doesn't matter TOO much where the button is, once you retrain yourself for it.
On top is where it belongs. If you want a rinky dink dime sized hard button on the front, you'll have to do what Apple did and waste 40% of the front surface for things other than the display. That's why Apple's displays are the size of a postage stamp: wasted space on the front for things that don't belong there.
Mike
mmcjam07 said:
I actually like it on the top. You're less likely to accidently turn it on in your pocket.
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This is likely the main reason it's on top. You tend to grip the sides when putting it in your pocket, purse, fanny pack, butthole, etc., and having it on top pretty much eliminates that. Also it's probably morel likely to get bumped awake with the button on the side. I don't think there's really a perfect place for a power button, but I prefer HTC's placement. Now the placement of the charging port on the 3D, I have an issue with.
When I hold the phone in my left hand like usual, my pointer finger can comfortably turn it on... no complaints here---aside from the power button being wobbily, due to the design of the casing.
Doesn't really matter to me, but I liked how it was on the top-right side on the Epic a little better.
The iPhone power button is on the top as well. The home button just acts to wake from sleep. If your iPhone is off, you still need to reach all the way up there to turn it on. It's more about capacitive buttons than anything else.
What I wouldn't mind is if the camera button served to wake on a long press, maybe even launching the camera app directly on a second press.
Sure. you might get some accidental wakes/pictures (which could be entertaining), but there would be some nice functionality with that.
Tell him he needs to hit the gym if he is having a hard time pressing the power button
^ O snap!1
I like the placement of the power button. At least they are consistent with all their devices. The volume button is what gets me but not a big deal. I wont pick at minor things because what would make me happy, may not make others happy.
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I prefer it on the top.
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I like to change things up every so often. You know? Get creative with it...
No, on the top is for the best. I have a Samsung focus too. Tue power button is on the side. I'm always turning the screen back on when I set it down by accidentally hitting the stiff breeze activating button.
This one needs a stronger button too. I fixed that though.
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Anywhere other than the top or the screen and it would be pressed on the time on accident. If it were on the screen, it would take up space, and if it were a software button on the screen then the screen would have to stay on and eat your battery.
You are a duche bag original poster. This phone is the too of the line the epic of phones... And you are question the power button... May you not get laid because of your phone
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Capacitive buttons

just wondering if anyone elses phone has different brightness levels for the capacitive buttons. back is much brighter than all the rest.
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just wondering if anyone elses phone has different brightness levels for the capacitive buttons. back is much brighter than all the rest.
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Mine look pretty similar in brightness.
The question that I have about the buttons is there a way to change their brightness or turn the backlight off? I when the phone is in the dock and in night mode the screen dims but the buttons are still at full brightness which defeats the purpose of dimming the screen backlight.
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The question that I have about the buttons is there a way to change their brightness or turn the backlight off? I when the phone is in the dock and in night mode the screen dims but the buttons are still at full brightness which defeats the purpose of dimming the screen backlight.
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Yup, just download "led's hack" from the market and after opening app it'll ask what phone you have, choose "Droid X" and you'll be able to disable the bottom led's and top too if wanted. Don't forget to hit thanks
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Looking into this
I'm a Sprint Product Ambassador supporting the launch of the Motorola Photon. I wasn't able to find any settings that would control the backlight for the capacitive buttons natively on the Photon. I know on some of our other Android devices you can match button backlight to screen timeout, etc but I am not seeing anything similar for Photon. I am researching thid further but did a little testing for you today with my own HDMI dock and while it's no real fix, I did see that after leaving it on the dock for a couple of minutes in night mode, the capacitive button backlight did go off after a couple of minutes.
I guess I didn't leave it on long enough to see them go off. I'm trying the app for now and so far it's doing what I need. If the lights go out like you said there must be a timer value somewhere that I'm going to see if I can find.
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Mine seem the same, although of course apparent brightness is different because the buttons are different sizes.
I exchanged the phone and this is my third photon and its rock solid.
P.S. I was having issues with lag and removed "watchdog" and that may have been my problem. it was the free app on amazon a while back and I got it. does anyone else use that program?
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Is their a reason for the volume button?

I mean honestly why couldn't they have left the volume button off and put another port or speaker or something! Honestly they could have integrated the volume nicely into their quick settings bar!
Or better yet made the a piece of the bezel with capacitive volume buttons...
I think they volume buttons where a waste of time on asus's part!
I know they are nice to have but common be different!
Also does this have a orientation lock switch?
A side note I really live ICS's spell check and copy and paste its so much nicer than gingerbread! Except its not the same through out like Gmail for example is different the the browser which bugs me! Lol
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Come on now SMH. Of course it's needed. It don't need another speaker grill as most that actually have device in possession said the sound is great. .
demandarin said:
Come on now SMH. Of course it's needed. It don't need another speaker grill as most that actually have device in possession said the sound is great. .
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Still why not have it be on screen?
You don't turn the volume up and down while the device is off lol
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Because that is just normal for an tablet/phone? Why do you even care?
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A side note I really live ICS's spell check
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Let's hope it is better than your PC36100
I was disappointed at first about the single speaker, however I've remedied this with some Logitech bluetooth speakers. The lack of a volume button is one of my only gripes with my Kindle Fire, so yes I think it is absolutely necessary to have a button.
I'd be willing to bet, that if they added an extra speaker, and left off the volume control, that I'd be reading a thread titled "Is there a reason for the extra speaker"... blah blah blah they could have put a volume button in its place, and other nonsense.
because otherwise every single app would need to add some way of adjusting volume in the app?
waste of time and space? I doubt having a volume rocker wastes much of either.
Also, volume rocker needed to boot into that fast boot mode or whatever. If device is soft bricked, it needs hardware button combination of volume and power to bring it into that mode to fix the issue or hard reset to take back to factory defaults/rom.
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because otherwise every single app would need to add some way of adjusting volume in the app?
waste of time and space? I doubt having a volume rocker wastes much of either.
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No that could be software implementation!
You have that dock bar always showing! Why not put a button on that silly!
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No that could be software implementation!
You have that dock bar always showing! Why not put a button on that silly!
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what dock bar? When you are playing shadowgun on your prime you expect there to be a dock bar so you can adjust the volume? It doesn't work like that and would look really bad if it did
Your point is interesting. Amazon chose not to put hardware volume on the Kindle Fire and that is one of the points that they are getting skewered on. So I am guessing that the software only volume control is in the minority. At least on Android devices.
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what dock bar? When you are playing shadowgun on your prime you expect there to be a dock bar so you can adjust the volume? It doesn't work like that and would look really bad if it did
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Uhmmm how do you get to the home screen then? The dock bar on the bottom! Lol! Have you never used a tablet version of. Android!
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ahhh I see what you mean I thought you were talking about having capacitive buttons you mentioned as a possibility.
But either way, its a solution for a non existent problem.
BongoBong said:
ahhh I see what you mean I thought you were talking about having capacitive buttons you mentioned as a possibility.
But either way, its a solution for a non existent problem.
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Still I do not see why android needs any physical buttons...
Everything would looks so nice without them!
I see the need like you said to get to the restore and such as I use that often! All I see android needing is 1 power button but even that could be just like slide over like the back of the PS Vita!
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I don't use the volume button much, I wish there would be an orientation lock which I use much more frequently than volume adjustment.
Also I don't quite like the HC/ICS way of copy/paste, you have to move far away from the text you just selected to press the copy button. I think it look cool but not intuitive.
I used to think the volume button wasn't important on a tablet, then I got shot in the knee with an arrow.
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Still I do not see why android needs any physical buttons...
Everything would looks so nice without them!
I see the need like you said to get to the restore and such as I use that often! All I see android needing is 1 power button but even that could be just like slide over like the back of the PS Vita!
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I think the volume rocker is needed. I find it very inconvenient if one needs to click the menu and adjust the volume every single time. I think its one of the reason why there are short cuts on you laptops that allows you to adjust the volume. For example if you are playing a first play shooter game and you want to adjust the volume, having to go into menu, change the volume will very likely get you killed.
And also, I think the reason Asus choose the single speaker instead two speaker is due to the size of the speaker. Instead of using two smaller mediocre speaker they chose to include one really good speaker which is bigger in size. Simply removing the volume rocker there wouldn't be enough space to add that second speaker. And also there's problem with the cost.
Wordlywisewiz said:
I mean honestly why couldn't they have left the volume button off and put another port or speaker or something! Honestly they could have integrated the volume nicely into their quick settings bar!
Or better yet made the a piece of the bezel with capacitive volume buttons...
I think they volume buttons where a waste of time on asus's part!
I know they are nice to have but common be different!
Also does this have a orientation lock switch?
A side note I really live ICS's spell check and copy and paste its so much nicer than gingerbread! Except its not the same through out like Gmail for example is different the the browser which bugs me! Lol
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How could you navigate in recovery?
TWRP2 is now a touch screen recovery, coming soon..........
My phone has touch screen recovery. Well kinda. I use the buttons on the bottom of the screen.
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Capacitive buttons response

Right, the reason I have started this thread is, I see some discomfort using Back capacitive button. I am not complaining that buttons don't respond to touch, they do. All 3 of them.
Let me give you an example: I am playing with the phone, doing something on the screen. After, let's say few minutes, I want to go back, so I touch Back button, but it does not respond. I press few more times and eventually it registers. Some people would say "hit and miss" or "there is an issue with capacitive buttons". I say no, because I am touching it there, where I supposed to, also once it start registering, every time I press it, it registers (I have haptic feedback on, so I know it works). I have problems only, when I am not touching capacitive buttons for some time.
I hope I explained this well. I think this is, what in some reviews has been described as "hit and miss" or "capacitive buttons not register". Do you have the same problem? If yes, why is that happening? Is it software or hardware?
I don't have this problem because I realised that the most sensitive and best working area
for left/right button isactually in the inside space rather than exactly on those little points.
So once I press slightly to the middle, it works. It requires also a little longer press.
Ok, I will try that.
I do agree on the buttons. Probably the only thing to get used to, but one you do, no phone like it period! This is sick an amazing phone it is rediculous
The back button on my phone @ left corner is actually the best out of the three. and maybe I feel the same way about the middle "HOME" button where it registers little higher than the other two. actually I have hit it few times accidentally while I was trying to push the space bar on keyboard.
But every time I felt the haptic feedback, button worked.
I am happy with the performance of the buttons. It seems like they work like the power and eject buttons on the PS3. They respond when you remove your finger.
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The only thing I have to get used to...
Almost no extra hits anymore...
One touch is most of the times correct registered :-(
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Right, so by looks of it, there is no issue. Something I have to get used to. Thanks a lot guys. I also hope it will help future buyers as well.
I have not had any problems with the capacitive buttons so far and tbh i prefer them to hardware buttons like on the arc/play etc
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
I used to have a Nexus One and the buttons are similar to that, you sort of have to roll/slide your finger upwards on the button ever so slightly.
I barely notice it but I know what you mean.
I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Good tip.
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indesisiv said:
I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Yep doing the same
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pixate said:
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
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How can you be serious? I have both, and as perfect as the Xperia S is as an upgrade, its capacitive buttons are not as sharp and fool proof..that's my only gripe ...
Example situation of problem:
Right after finishing recording a decent length FullHD video, pressing home or back needs to be done repeatedly to register (MOST of the time).
Not a deal breaker, but I so hope this is software related..
I have the same issue but after one day of owning this phone im learning where to press to get a response first time
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Yeah, that works very well. Thanks.
I am just glad we have sorted it out and it turned out it is not a software or hardware issue. After reading some advises, my phone cooperates with me much better.

Volume down sticking on VZW G2

Is anyone else having this issue? If I try to press the "volume down" physical button, if you're applying any "downward" pressure, like say sliding your finger off it, the edge sticks under the physical case and it stays held down. Not sure if this is worth returning it for, but I can see it being a pain if it gets worse. It happened last night and took me a few seconds to figure out why the display wasn't leaving the screen.
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Is anyone else having this issue? If I try to press the "volume down" physical button, if you're applying any "downward" pressure, like say sliding your finger off it, the edge sticks under the physical case and it stays held down. Not sure if this is worth returning it for, but I can see it being a pain if it gets worse. It happened last night and took me a few seconds to figure out why the display wasn't leaving the screen.
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Actually, now that I tested more, if you press either vol up / down on their "edge" (where the + and - symbols are) they both stick pretty easily. Not sure I like this at all. You don't even have to press hard, just press on the edge even with a fingernail. They almost feel like individual rockers more than buttons.
They are rockers for sure. Mine doesn't get stuck when using them thank goodness. I think it feels better with the buttons like that. Imo. I love the buttons on the back and I think I'm the minority in this
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hoola20055 said:
They are rockers for sure. Mine doesn't get stuck when using them thank goodness. I think it feels better with the buttons like that. Imo. I love the buttons on the back and I think I'm the minority in this
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I like them there, I just don't like how easy they are getting stuck if you press them on the edges. Might just be a bad model, I'll have to stop by the store later.
I hadn't experienced it in daily use but I can make them stick if I press down on the edge like you mention above. I don't usually press it that way so I'm not too concerned.
I've tried to press the buttons every way possible and mine don't stick at all. Maybe exchange for a new device?
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I've tried to press the buttons every way possible and mine don't stick at all. Maybe exchange for a new device?
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This is an issue with the Verizon model. From the looks of your signature, you don't have a Verizon model, thus you're not going to experience this issue. :good:
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I'm having the same issue, but I don't think it'll be a deal breaker causing me to exchange.

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