It's been a while since I've worked on this, and I still can't find anyone with a similar problem on xda. Does anyone have a clue what's going on with this thing?
First, I got it working just fine with CM7 installed to the nook itself, not running from an sd card. That worked for a bit, then it started just shutting off with no obvious reason.
Also, if I make any changes, like uninstalling apps, it goes right back after a reboot - which happens whether I want it to or not. This applies to changes done with CWM as well, even installing a new rom.
On top of that, it won't boot from an sd card, so that sucks too.
Lastly (I think, it's tough to keep track of all these problems) abd doesn't recognize the device, and for that matter the operating system doesn't either. I've been using Ubuntu Lucid if that matters, but it didn't have issues detecting the device before.
I'm pretty novice, but I think this is a very complicated problem in need of expert advice. Any answers, tips, advice, or pointing in the right direction for any of my problems here would be awesome. Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks.
Dude you say your a novice thats one... Two you are being critical of people who volunteer on this stuff. You can't be serious. You obviously have not read the support threads because you are not the only one with these problems and those that have them also did not read enough initially and failed to follow some step. Moreover, even if your problem were unique who do you think you are getting upset at anyone but yourself for taking the risk. Read the support thread for cm7 Mr. Ungrateful... flash back to stock and leave this forum alone until you 1. Learn what it means to be grateful. 2. Learn to follow instructions. The end
it is impossible to stump xda...
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Dude you say your a novice thats one... Two you are being critical of people who volunteer on this stuff. You can't be serious. You obviously have not read the support threads because you are not the only one with these problems and those that have them also did not read enough initially and failed to follow some step. Moreover, even if your problem were unique who do you think you are getting upset at anyone but yourself for taking the risk. Read the support thread for cm7 Mr. Ungrateful... flash back to stock and leave this forum alone until you 1. Learn what it means to be grateful. 2. Learn to follow instructions. The end
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Thanks, that reminds me, I did follow all steps to the letter without a hitch to get CM7 going. It wasn't until after it was running for a few days that this happened. Also, in the aftermath while trying to solve the problem, I did everything I can think of to completely brick the nook so that I might be able to use some of the methods here to unbrick.
And just to defend my good name, I think it's a stretch to imagine I've been critical of anyone. To reference your other post on these forums, perhaps you might reconsider how to be helpful. Let me help you out with that.
because it is SERIOUSLY a hard brick, then you gotta get serious about your attack on this sick puppy. get a #6 torx and open it up and get directly at the internal sd card ( which sounds like you have trashed... )
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let us know when you got it open...
Dude!!!
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Dude you say your a novice thats one... Two you are being critical of people who volunteer on this stuff. You can't be serious. You obviously have not read the support threads because you are not the only one with these problems and those that have them also did not read enough initially and failed to follow some step. Moreover, even if your problem were unique who do you think you are getting upset at anyone but yourself for taking the risk. Read the support thread for cm7 Mr. Ungrateful... flash back to stock and leave this forum alone until you 1. Learn what it means to be grateful. 2. Learn to follow instructions. The end
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One: This was a completely pointless flaming. Two: For being a novice he seems to be a bit more informed than you are. This is an issue, however not a common one. And from what I have read in these forums there is not as yet a fix. Three: I didn't read any ungratefulness, criticism, nor any hint of being upset. And Four: If you can't help out or give any useful advice then maybe you should "leave this forum alone" until you learn to be more civil.
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Thanks, that reminds me, I did follow all steps to the letter without a hitch to get CM7 going. It wasn't until after it was running for a few days that this happened. Also, in the aftermath while trying to solve the problem, I did everything I can think of to completely brick the nook so that I might be able to use some of the methods here to unbrick.
And just to defend my good name, I think it's a stretch to imagine I've been critical of anyone. To reference your other post on these forums, perhaps you might reconsider how to be helpful. Let me help you out with that.
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Well put, and Props.....
I don't know if I can help out but I think I can point you in the right direction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619615
This seems to be a hardware problem, but I don't think anyone is sure what is causing this.
Good luck with finding a fix.
went and found a XDA link for res-erecting bricked devices. it by @adamoutler and looks like a goodie !
ModeDetect USBID Detector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257434
hth
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( you can tell that Adam is passionate about his tech. what do they feed those boys down in Louisiana beside crawdads ? )
Alright, so thanks to old_fart and DavDoc I've determined two of my problems, and I think there are four.
First, DavDoc's linked thread describes perfectly what's happening with problem one, what I'm calling the Groundhog Day Syndrome for no particular reason. Any changes to my nook go right back after it's powered off.
Second, I checked out old_fart's linked thread and I'm pretty sure even though I have a blank screen it's still on in one mode or another. The program doesn't work though because of problem #3 (to be explained) but it seems sensible because to power it back on I must first hold the power button for an extended period of time and release, then hold it again for the normal power-up.
Problem number three is that the nook is not recognized by either Ubuntu or Windows when plugged in anymore. Thus that program not working, and also adb. I may be able to determine that one from error logs as soon as I figure out what in the world the error logs are saying.
Fourth and hopefully final, it won't boot from sd. I'll figure that out too.
Thanks for the advice so far, this forum is definitely indispensable for people who like to learn from playing with technology.
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I wanted to contribute something to the development but I'm a dumby when it comes to code. For a living I coordinate techs and developers with end users, basically I'm a tech-speak translator. I've notice that around these parts there are a ton of questions that could be easier resolved by following some guidelines. So this guide isn't about how to root or rom specifically, it's tips to avoid common mistakes and make it easier to provide you with help if something does go wrong. Think of it like when you call your cable help line and they ask you "is it plugged in" if you checked to make sure it was plugged in before you called you'll get to a solution a lot quicker.
I ask that any devs who can add to this do because knowing what us regular users can do to make your job (unpaid job that is) easier benefits us all.
Back up
This is super important but a lot of us are in such a rush to play with the goodies that we skip it. Always always keep a current back up of your sd card on your pc/mac. You can create a folder called "mytouchbak" or whatever you want and just copy and paste all the files over there.
Also nandroid backup. You should keep at least 2 nandroid backups. If you're just now rooting make a nandroid back up before you do anything. Then once you have a good stable rom running make another nandroid back up. This way you can either return to a default build, or to your working rom build.
These things are important because usually if you screw something up it's usually quicker and easier to just start from the beginning rather than have someone try to figure out what tiny step out of the many involved you may have done wrong, then figure out how to fix it.
Try twice
This relates to "back up." If something seems broken start from the beginning and try it again. Most likely you missed a step, forgot a symbol in something you typed, or sometimes something just didn't quite go right. By rooting you are doing things that weren't meant to be done and sometimes some numbers just got crossed somewhere. Before you proclaim that things are broken just try it again. You would be suprised by the number of times things work the second time through.
Read the whole thread
We have all done it. You follow the instructions perfectly and something doesn't work so you run to the forum and immediately write a post saying "help, i can't get it to work" on page 80 of a thread when several other people experienced the same problem, already asked the question and a solution was posted on page 20. I know it's sometimes a pain to skim 80 pages of posts but those 80 pages are probably caused by other people not reading the thread before posting. A good tip for this is if there is something specific that isn't working like wi-fi tether, just open the search toolbar in your browser, type "tether" and then go to each page hitting search. That way you don't have to read every post but if anyone has mentioned anything about tethering it will point you right to it and you only have to read those posts.
Have a computer ready
This is one that most of us already do but the one time you forget things always go bad. Don't ever rely on remembering the instructions you read on your phones browser when working on rooting and romming. If you have a computer in front of you you can read the forums and follow the instructions word for word which gives you a better chance of success.
Read everything first
Before you start read everything from start to finish at least once. Sometimes devs skip steps that they assume we know and then mention them later. It's because a lot of things seem like something everyone should know, but we don't. In the same vein if you can find multiple tutorials read them all first. This will give you several view points on doing the same thing and will in general make the whole process make more sense to you and clue you in on things one tutorial may have skipped past.
The other benefit is sometimes a step is listed, and then right after it it will say something like "and don't do that until you do this." such as with our current rooting loop method. If you read all the steps first before starting you won't be caught off guard by things like this.
Asking for help
When you get stuck, you can't find any answers AFTER READING AND SEARCHING THE FORUM for your issue then definitely ask away. How you ask relates to how easily it is for someone to help you.
Avoid making general statements when possible, detail is a must. Instead of saying "I rooted, then did A2SD, then restarted" give the steps you took to root and A2SD by either referencing the method such as "I rooted as per the steps laid out in (link to instructions or name of method) or lay out the exact steps line for line as to what you did. If you assume you rooted right and what went wrong was you missed a step in the rooting process how is anyone supposed to tell you what step you missed.
Also format it to be easy to read. Development trains your mind to be very organized and structured. Basically don't format your post like this guide I'm writing, in large blocks of paragraph text. Instead put each command on a new line for instance:
"I did this
adb shell
adb push update.zip /sd
reboot into recovery....."
this makes it a lot easier to provide you with help.
Slow down, Find a good time
Don't rush through the process. That's how steps are missed, commands are mistyped and phones get bricked. I've done roots at 2am and couldn't for the life of me get it to work, I put it away and tried again in the morning and things went great. So don't mess with rooting and romming when you're exhausted, in a hurry, high, in the midst of an argument with your girlfriend, or any sort of other distractions.
That's all I have for now, I hope it helps. If anyone has anything to add please do.
great guide, most of us probably follow these general rules without really thinking about it and sometimes that is overlooked when a new guy comes in to try to do something.
tubaking182 said:
great guide, most of us probably follow these general rules without really thinking about it and sometimes that is overlooked when a new guy comes in to try to do something.
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Thank you. I notice that happen a lot in my job where someone with no experience in the particular tech get's lost because the things we take for granted as common knowledge really aren't for someone new to the idea. Especially with the android devices becoming insanely popular theres a huge influx of new users looking at the goodies that come with root. install a custom rom or two and everything above becomes second nature.
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Slow down, Find a good time
Don't rush through the process. That's how steps are missed, commands are mistyped and phones get bricked. I've done roots at 2am and couldn't for the life of me get it to work, I put it away and tried again in the morning and things went great. So don't mess with rooting and romming when you're exhausted, in a hurry, high, in the midst of an argument with your girlfriend, or any sort of other distractions.
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So that's why I was having problems.
this tut is NOW IN SLIDE BIBLE! just send people there any chance you get with noobs, and we'll let them search
Aweome idea for a post! Thanks!
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Thanks for all the positive feedback guys. And especially thank you for getting this posted into the slide bible. I hope this cuts down on some of the repeat questions and makes it easier for some of the new folks to not be so overwhelmed when rooting for the first time.
@Bigshow281 : I have screwed up several rootings by being a little bit too foggy to be messing with something that requires precise typing and following instructions correctly.
I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
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I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
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There are several threads and even a sticky you'd have to be blind or flat lazy to miss to not have seen it with ALL the info you need
Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
Many thanks thecelticchimp. I'm gonna check the links you've kindly given and if there's enough there to give me a basic grounding then I'll bite the bullet and do the deed this evening.
read the top 5 or 6 threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=698
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
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Oh dear, foiled at the first hurdle! My phone's build number is 15609. Theunlockr.com sends me to
http://android.modaco.com/topic/316229-19aug-streak-21-downloads-how-tos-rom-superboot-recovery/
where I can't find any reference to that build number, therefore can't find the necessary Superboot files.
Help? ... !
Your first problem is trying to use Superboot. You don't need to, and it's not recommended to use it in any event. All you need to know is how to use Fastboot properly.
The second problem is that you're trying to do this cold. For a bit of an assist, try looking in the apparently little known Wiki on the site here. There is a flashing guide for the Dell Streak there and one very critical piece of advice on it that is a must read, though duplicated on some of the threads.
I am going to recommend that you spend some time reading up before attempting to flash the Streak, or you will very likely end up with a nice, shiny, and very expensive paperweight.
OK, for the moment I'm going to be content with a factory reset and no root.
I think if one of you experts out there fancies a little project it would be to write exactly what the sarcastic "No spoonfeeding here" signature doesn't want; a "Rooting for beginners" guide.
I'm told I don't need to use Superboot, but I thought Superboot WAS rooting. Truth be told all I wanted to do was to be able to uninstall unwanted pre-loaded software on my Streak, not much more than that.
Despite kind people's encouraging words that rooting is now very straightforward, Strephon's timely warning reminds me that it isn't. I think I'll take the easy way out and wait until someone IS prepared to spoon feed me!
Sticky posts are set up so that they never disappear from page 1 of the forum you are reading. They are also so that critical information, such as how to root the streak without bricking it, is easy to find. Rooting the Streak is quite easy; far easier than other devices. Yet it's still possible to brick it if you do not read up on what you're supposed to be doing.
If you were truly a noob I'd have given you a link. However, you have been with the site a while, and thus you should by now know the rules, especially rule 1: search before you post. Thus, no spoonfeeding for you. Use the search engine and the stickies. That is why we have them.
Duly ticked off! Many thanks for the help and advice, I'll start reading...
Cheers,
Aidan
Hello there. Basically, I was on the newest (I think) Alliance Rom with Dorimanx kernel for s2. however, it began to get quite buggy, and I tried to flash a new kernel onto it. Siyah. then I tried to flash Cyanogenmod onto it. Restarted, phone won't load past the siyah logo. But I get the siyah recovery menu thing still. But when I try to install the cyanogenmod zip, it fails. I have no other roms on my sd card, or kernels, for that matter.
Please can somebody advise me what to do. I need my phone for work in 5 hours! I was thinking a fix possibly with Odin? Although, I'm guessing if I wiped the phone, kies will no longer be on there. Not sure what it means for it.
thanks.
It's Jellybean by the way
1) Use a more descriptive title than 'HELP !'. Many people will ignore your thread/not read it for that alone (which means you might miss out on help).
2) If you've still got CWRecovery, you still should be able to flash something without resorting to Odin. I would suggest perhaps you're not following the instructions on the first page of the CM thread to the letter. Try it again.
If you really can't flash anything in recovery & still have bootloop (I.E recovery seems broken), get a stock rom from Samfirmware, flash it with Odin = clean slate & you can then re-root your phone & have another go at flashing whatever rom/kernel you want to use.
Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
I can't get any zip files onto my phone or the SD card. so flashing from the phone is pretty much a no.
I can try Odin, however, I barely know what it is. Is anybody willing to just tell me what to click?
No spoon feeding allowed mate. No one will hold your hand and tell you what button to click. I may as well fly over there and do it myself.
If you want to know about Odin flashing click the link in my signature and look at the section on how to flash.
But, I still don't think you need to use Odin. In CWM recovery, Mount usb storage, connect to pc, transfer rom.zip onto phone sd from pc, unmount usb & then flash rom. Done.
Sent from a galaxy far, far away
Okay.. Seems a bit odd, being a help section, in a forum. I just figured since I'm dealing with something that could potentially break/brick my phone, I would rather do it right as opposed to wrong, considering I have never done it myself before.
Thanks though, I didn't actually know I could mount it without actually booting the phone. I'll try that.
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Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
I'm not even being harsh with what I say. I didn't write out the steps, but I did give you a direct link to a place which lists the steps. That's a legitimate A to your Q.
Sent from a galaxy far, far away
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416096
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2413627
Just a few more that just say "help". I can see that it is not posing a ****ing problem. Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone help who is more helpful than you. I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
Either way, I've managed to fix the problem, so no more needs to be done.
Thank you to those who gave me advice.
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Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
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As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone who is more helpful than you.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
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I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
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They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
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Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
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Yes it's the right way to treat new members.
You are doing things wrong, respecting other members is a rule of XDA and you're not doing it - so you're doing it wrong.
Good you thanked. But was i necessary to disrespect. Yes you were disrespecting.
Prove your point? That it's okay to spoonfeed newbies and making them think that they wont have to do anything, just ask and wait?! No that's not right, as already stated.
You wanted to help how exactly? To tell us that we should do it 'the way you like it'? No that's wrong, accept it!
Dont come here and try to flame, there's a rule against that. Take you crap elsewhere, cause with that attitude you probably wont get much help around here or anywhere else for that matter.
This is my last post and visit here, so dont even bother commenting if there anything about me.
Sooo, Ill start off by saying that I've unlocked, hacked, rooted, jailbroke pretty much every phone since it became available over the years. Im a careless tinkerer and have always stumbled across well written how to's to do everything I've need in forums like this and have great luck.
Well awhile ago, shortly after I got my AT&T M8, I decided to try and turn it into Google Play Edition. Somewhere along the way while in the process of doing S-OFF, something went wrong. I kept getting errors and couldn't get anything to flash. So I gave up and got the LG G3 and put the M8 aside for a bit. Well now I want to use it again, and along the way of "tinkering", I've managed to wipe TWRP, relocked the bootloader, have no OS and still S-OFF. I can boot into recovery or boot to the HTC screen so its not completely gone yet from what Ive researched.
Would anyone be willing to help me out in getting this thing back to stock Sense or point me in the right direction? I want it completely stock, without root or custom recovery. I'd rather a good step by step, if someone would be willing. I can't seem to piece together all of the information i need to do this myself. Thanks!
Have you tried this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55094112
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Im a careless tinkerer and have always stumbled across well written how to's to do everything I've need in forums like this and have great luck.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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Thank you for your response but unfortunately I find it extremely arrogant and asinine. The fact is that I have put in a lot of time and knowledge to understand what I am doing. I may not have a conventional degree in coding as you might but I am able to successfully mod my phones by browsing forums like this where you can find an abundance of knowledge, especially step-by-step guides, as you are so against. If you are so against step by step guides then maybe you can be the voice about banning them from this forum. Do you see how I am a new member? I am one of the few that actually search the forums instead of posting another thread asking the same questions. Ive used tools and information from this site for a very long time without having to post one single thing until a few days ago. And this is the response I get? I was even humble enough in my screen name to call myself stupid because, with this specific issue, I knew it had to be something stupid that i was missing. You shouldn't tell people that step by step guides are dangerous things. All it takes is some balls and some command lines and you can accomplish many things. Have I messed up my phones and others before? Yes, but i had never run into a situation I haven't been able to get myself out of. To me, tinkering around, as a hobby, is fun. Like now, as I watch Sunday NFL Countdown, I am about to dust off my Nexus 5 and flash Lollipop on it. Guess what I am going to use? A STEP BY STEP GUIDE!!!! If I mess it up, then Im sure I wouldn't be the first to do so and Im sure Ill find a solution on great forums like this. Besides, my rooted/unlocked OnePlus One is my main phone. I wanted to play around with the M8 again to see if I would miss the smaller screen but I don't. So, thank you for just repeating the first response then proceeding to insult me because you think i don't have the skills needed to mod my devices. I will continue to do so however I please, just as many others will. Either contribute to threads or ignore them. No need for the insults. You've also insulted many other members who have posted tools and step by step guides on this specific site.
nuwayman said:
Have you tried this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55094112
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I actually did RUU but it ended up that I had a corrupt RUU file. I redownloaded it and put it on the MicroSD card and it worked like a charm. Thank you for your quick response.
StupidN00b said:
Thank you for your response but unfortunately I find it extremely arrogant and asinine.
So, thank you for just repeating the first response then proceeding to insult me
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Quite frankly, incorrect on both points. You don't understand what an insult is, and there is nothing insulting in my post. If you read my post carefully, you will see there is no actual personal attack or insults.
redpoint73 said:
Just RUU as suggested in the previous response.
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Contrary to what you suggest, backing up the previous suggestion is added value; as it adds credibility and consensus to the previous solution.
redpoint73 said:
I suggest leaving your phones stock, unless you are willing to put in the time to read, research, and obtain some real knowledge.
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Its just a suggestion, and note that its conditional. Therefore, if you meet the latter part of the statement, the first part doesn't apply to you.
redpoint73 said:
Step-by-step guides and toolkits are dangerous things. As you see, they just get you into trouble without giving you the knowledge or tools to get out of that jam.
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I stand by this statement. I've seen dozens dozens of instances where such tools just arm people with enough "knowledge" to get them into trouble, and don't equip them with any tools to get them out. Its then left to folks like me to even start to get these folks on the right track.
I'll step back a bit from my statement that these tools "shouldn't be posted in the first place". I'll agree that step-by-step guides and toolkits might be useful if combined with the proper research, learning and understanding. But in and of themselves, they can easily lead newcomers astray.
redpoint73 said:
I'm surprised you've modded as many phones as you say, and haven't gotten any real knowledge to this point. Either you are very humble; or your story is a testament to the fact that such step-by-step guides shouldn't be posted in the first place.
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I already gave you the benefit of the doubt here, but you chose to react defensively and in my opinion, unreasonably.
In any case, as far as your knowledge and background, we can only go by what you've stated; and you clearly stated yourself as a "careless tinkerer" and "stumbled" upon solutions. Now in your later post you say "I have put in a lot of time and knowledge to understand what I am doing". So if you provide conflicting information as to your background, nobody can be blamed for making an incorrect assumption regarding your knowledge.
Please admins do some cleaning here. A lot of tutorials is very bad ripoff of another tutorials.
I my case I can not find one logically structured tread with general info about G2 flashing, SW versions and so on.
A lot of people try to make a money, by giving wrong information an later ask money for help to unbrick others phones. This is just terrible!!!
I AM ANGRY DUE TO BAD TUTORIAL I BRICKED MY PHONE REAL BAD.
Please ,clean or make new rules for comment rights, to help other not brick their phones!!!!
Hi
I think problem is not tutorials, but people who used first random tut.
Im sorry you bricked your device, but root G2 is really easy and install twrp.
For root u can use DP Tools from android g2 section, and twrp u can get with autorec from playstore.
That's all, if u wanna use customized roms, u will need install Jelly Bean bootloader, it support kitkat/lollipop/aosp roms. LG G2 is unbrickable by software, every state can be repaired. So, search tutorial for you to unbrick device and use my steps to have full unlocked device and feel free to mods and roms
I just unbricked my G2 after 6 weeks so ask if you need anything to help you.
Ganjax said:
Hi
I think problem is not tutorials, but people who used first random tut.
Im sorry you bricked your device, but root G2 is really easy and install twrp.
For root u can use DP Tools from android g2 section, and twrp u can get with autorec from playstore.
That's all, if u wanna use customized roms, u will need install Jelly Bean bootloader, it support kitkat/lollipop/aosp roms. LG G2 is unbrickable by software, every state can be repaired. So, search tutorial for you to unbrick device and use my steps to have full unlocked device and feel free to mods and roms
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Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
It is quite often that I found solution tread, first tree pages of comments are "nice work" , "good job" and so on , after fifth page real users actually give negative feedback. Now I am reading tread with 77 pages. I am in the middle and I still do not understand is it safe to use tutorial. And there are a lot of treads like this. XDA should give some rating possibility, to delete treads with wrong or not working properly solutions.
I am very disappointed in XDA.
MixXx2005 said:
Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
It is quite often that I found solution tread, first tree pages of comments are "nice work" , "good job" and so on , after fifth page real users actually give negative feedback. Now I am reading tread with 77 pages. I am in the middle and I still do not understand is it safe to use tutorial. And there are a lot of treads like this. XDA should give some rating possibility, to delete treads with wrong or not working properly solutions.
I am very disappointed in XDA.
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So, you mean u dont understand anything. I bricked my device few times, and i had no problem to recover this without any pay to anyone i know how to install cwm, rom, bootloader, how.. If you said we need pay for everything? Open your mind, if u are too lazy to read easy tutorials
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So, you mean u dont understand anything. I bricked my device few times, and i had no problem to recover this without any pay to anyone i know how to install cwm, rom, bootloader, how.. If you said we need pay for everything? Open your mind, if u are too lazy to read easy tutorials
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I can provide you with tons of treads in G2 sections, that is outdated or do not work from the begging.
I am reading these in terrible english written treads for straight two days and still nothing that wort been read!
As a matter of fact I am not a noob or total beginner ether....
You show u are, if no one before cried about G2 section everyone can mods, but not u, why? We should ask just u, this is not freakin magic
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I can provide you with tons of treads in G2 sections, that is outdated or do not work from the begging.
I am reading these in terrible english written treads for straight two days and still nothing that wort been read!
As a matter of fact I am not a noob or total beginner ether....
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So what doesn't work? Most of the things just do work normally but you need ofcourse to have the right bootloader version/modem just like on other devices. English isn't the main language for everybody so their English isn't perfect and so is mine but your's isn't 100% correct either. But they do contribute to the community and that breaks the barrier of languages.
MixXx2005 said:
Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
It is quite often that I found solution tread, first tree pages of comments are "nice work" , "good job" and so on , after fifth page real users actually give negative feedback. Now I am reading tread with 77 pages. I am in the middle and I still do not understand is it safe to use tutorial. And there are a lot of treads like this. XDA should give some rating possibility, to delete treads with wrong or not working properly solutions.
I am very disappointed in XDA.
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MixXx2005 I don't know which threads you are in but I never had anybody ask me for money or steal credit card date? There might be people asking for money or idk exactly what all but that might be going on in the background especially. As some people brick their phone others want to unbrick it and ask money for shipping/not trying to destroy it. If you want to do it free then you have to do it yourself probably. The G2 community does give solutions but there were already so many Q&A threads or people who all ask the same question/don't read properly the threads that some people just don't react anymore.
I had read many unbricking/root tutorials when I just came to this community several months ago already and everything worked fine. Also the hardbrick fix method worked fine for me.
Btw if somebody steals your credit card date then why did you gave them it all? If you have those kinds of problems or want to report something about outdated content then just react on the thread, Contact the OP, and or in cases of scams and those stuff contact a moderator. Moderator and members don't always have time to check or everything is alright so people need to report the problems.
So about "I AM ANGRY DUE TO BAD TUTORIAL I BRICKED MY PHONE REAL BAD. "
You really have to read carefully for which G2 variant is was meant, it doesn't matter if you are experienced or not experienced people also make mistakes just like that I hardbricked my G2 after I left myself on an unrooted rom with no download mode and recovery.
If you can say the problem you have like what kind of bricks, more details then I could might help you for free. The thing it might only costs is time but that's worth it if you fix your brick into an working G2.
I will try to reply asap but school and some other stuff in life might make me forget this so if you have a question please quote or mention my name as I would only then receive a notification about it.
EDIT: I read your thread now about your qh_usb brick and I read the tutorial. The tutorial isn't misleading or whatsoever there could have been an issue due to drivers/binaries and or communication between your device and fastboot itself. The tutorial was also meant for if you had the same message on your screen.
Btw in which mode are you? QHUSB_BULK 9006 or 9008? About the exclamation marks do you have the proper drivers for it? You might need to install the drivers manually with device manager. If you can mention which mode then I could perhaps help. Maybe not immediately but I could probably help you to unbrick your phone .
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So what doesn't work? Most of the things just do work normally but you need ofcourse to have the right bootloader version/modem just like on other devices. English isn't the main language for everybody so their English isn't perfect and so is mine but your's isn't 100% correct either. But they do contribute to the community and that breaks the barrier of languages.
MixXx2005 I don't know which threads you are in but I never had anybody ask me for money or steal credit card date? There might be people asking for money or idk exactly what all but that might be going on in the background especially. As some people brick their phone others want to unbrick it and ask money for shipping/not trying to destroy it. If you want to do it free then you have to do it yourself probably. The G2 community does give solutions but there were already so many Q&A threads or people who all ask the same question/don't read properly the threads that some people just don't react anymore.
I had read many unbricking/root tutorials when I just came to this community several months ago already and everything worked fine. Also the hardbrick fix method worked fine for me.
Btw if somebody steals your credit card date then why did you gave them it all? If you have those kinds of problems or want to report something about outdated content then just react on the thread, Contact the OP, and or in cases of scams and those stuff contact a moderator. Moderator and members don't always have time to check or everything is alright so people need to report the problems.
So about "I AM ANGRY DUE TO BAD TUTORIAL I BRICKED MY PHONE REAL BAD. "
You really have to read carefully for which G2 variant is was meant, it doesn't matter if you are experienced or not experienced people also make mistakes just like that I hardbricked my G2 after I left myself on an unrooted rom with no download mode and recovery.
If you can say the problem you have like what kind of bricks, more details then I could might help you for free. The thing it might only costs is time but that's worth it if you fix your brick into an working G2.
I will try to reply asap but school and some other stuff in life might make me forget this so if you have a question please quote or mention my name as I would only then receive a notification about it.
EDIT: I read your thread now about your qh_usb brick and I read the tutorial. The tutorial isn't misleading or whatsoever there could have been an issue due to drivers/binaries and or communication between your device and fastboot itself. The tutorial was also meant for if you had the same message on your screen.
Btw in which mode are you? QHUSB_BULK 9006 or 9008?
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Thanks for your replay.
After all day of reading tons of useless information finally unbrick my phone. Now it is fully functional again.
I will explain why I am mad.
1st after official update my phone start to act weird (now i know what caused it, and it do not matter), then after I try to flash stock FW I stuck at LG logo. I found two different tutorials and both of them showed contradictory steps, I decided to follow one of them and like I said get error and booting till LG logo.
Next due to bad tutorial I erase all partitions with fastboot. But in the tut. was not said anything about proper way to do it. So after that tut. I get real brick. Still everyone can brick their phone following it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/mega-tut-how-to-fix-bricked-lg-g2-t3055033 (3. step - how can I know that I should modify provided code with my .img file path? Where is something said about it?)
Then I read FAMOUS "LG G2 is UNBRICKABLE NOW! [FIX REAL HARD BRICK]" . After that I tried to short out test pins. Again I found contradictory informations about test point locations.
To get any life in my dead phone ,I try them both, and luckily I did not damaged eMMC.
There are a lot of wrong information how you should act in different situations in these topics, and these things can permanently destroy your hardware and there are no highlights or any warning about it.
So after qh_usb brick win 7 was unable to detect drivers, but somehow randomly after several hours of search, I found correct Qualqomm drivers, after that the device manager showed connection with 9008 mode brick. Then after I read whole
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g2-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933830/page42
5th page before end ,give me right tool to fix my phone. tons of contradictory info there - truly TONS.
I can give you treads , where people do not give right topics, but instead give their FB and later ask for money.
Also I can give you proofs about those who said that they will help you for free in TeamViewer and quietly install keyloggers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g2-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933830/ (read this tread , somewhere in middle of it, there are a lot of proofs)
It took me around 15 h with intense bulls*it filtering to get my phone in order.
And the most annoying thing , is that this all, what I describe previously , could be done in 15 min, if there would be ONE normal tread.
If all other/bad/misleading treads would be deleted, then my troubles would not been started in 1st place.
But like I said before this G2 community is terrible from beginners point of view.
Ok here is one thing
1. before doing anything search ( I agree that you will find a lot of outdated threads -- not useless but mostly outdated)
2. There is a help section with people who will understand where the error is and try to help you out
3. Most of the people here ask a question, solve the issue and just write: "fixed", without writing how and possibly contributing
Honestly, If I were a mod I would just delete their useless threads, always thinking of themselves
There isn't any magic tool that will fit everyones needs, people who are new just click random
I hope you fixed the device
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Ok here is one thing
1. before doing anything search ( I agree that you will find a lot of outdated threads -- not useless but mostly outdated)
2. There is a help section with people who will understand where the error is and try to help you out
3. Most of the people here ask a question, solve the issue and just write: "fixed", without writing how and possibly contributing
Honestly, If I were a mod I would just delete their useless threads, always thinking of themselves
There isn't any magic tool that will fit everyones needs, people who are new just click random
I hope you fixed the device
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Thanks, everything is good now. But I disagree - there are a lot of wrong and often contradicting treads and a lot of people that make their salary due to this.
I think admins should ban a lot of users here and also implement some kind of tread and user ranking. Because there are also people that do not know anything( I my point of view, they are just helpful fools ,that do not understand what they can cause with their misleading information) ,but they tried to help by just posting random s*it they were hear somewhere else. And I as desperate beginner can make much worse brick by following the advice.
MixXx2005 said:
I can give you treads , where people do not give right topics, but instead give their FB and later ask for money.
Also I can give you proofs about those who said that they will help you for free in TeamViewer and quietly install keyloggers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g2-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933830/ (read this tread , somewhere in middle of it, there are a lot of proofs)
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What proofs of keyloggers? I read it but didnt found anything..
Vihru said:
What proofs of keyloggers? I read it but didnt found anything..
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Post #63 and below it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57454159&postcount=63
I don't believe this happened. There would be more people involved in such opinions then.
Tbh the thread name of yours is kind of embarasing for people who create free stuff for everyone.
If you have any issues with any user on xda there are mods and admins and you can report them.
MixXx2005 said:
Nope. G2 community is so bad. No one give solutions, only ask for money , even steel credit card date. I love the phone, but the community is just terrible.
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Odd.
Because I always found a solution for every problem I had, got an answer for every question. Even the most ridiculous ones.
So I disagree that the community is bad, quite the contrary. Every bit of info is here. You just have to read and understand what you've read.
And people here are nothing but helpful (most of them, at least).
P.S. as long as your G2 boots up, it is not bricked and it can be salvaged.