Root & Unleash The Power of Your Android ! - $15 (NW)
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Date: 2012-06-06, 11:22PM MDT
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I can unleash the beast within your phone/tablet
Gain root access, and use the programs that control the raw power of your device.
Flash any ROM you want. Don't like Sense on your HTC or Touchwiz on your Samsung ?
Make the user experience smoother & in most cases increases battery life !
I have been hacking Linux devices for more than 10 years and Android devices since the G1 was introduced.
I also write programs for the Android operating system in my spare time. I guarantee my work 100%
Experience why Android is the most customizable OS for mobile phones, and the most versatile.
Call xxx-xxx-xxx
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This guys getting paid from most likely our fellow xda devs... i just flagged all his craigslist posting...
HTC One X, HTC One S, Samsung Galaxy, Droid, Motorolla, LG, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Boost, Cricket.
**Price may vary per device
well, i mean you never know...
but if i were to make a posting like that, i would make it say that i would do it for the users who want it but are afraid to mess up. and then i would basically state all the things that i know how to do and my forum profiles. and what i would charge would depend on how annoyingly painstaking the process is to get them the wanted feature.
in other posting this guy has said hes been hacking android since 4 yrs before g1 was released, i didnt know there was a Droid before the g1/dream
Debel said:
in other posting this guy has said hes been hacking android since 4 yrs before g1 was released, i didnt know there was a Droid before the g1/dream
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haha there wasnt
That's nothing new...if you are lazy or dumb enough to pay for it then go for it. People offer paid services like that for everything from iPhones to Xboxes..ya know
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Spastic909 said:
That's nothing new...if you are lazy or dumb enough to pay for it then go for it. People offer paid services like that for everything from iPhones to Xboxes..ya know
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It's not about being lazy, it's about the conformity. We all go to the mechanic to fix our cars unless you know how to fix it, obviously. That's just how it works man. I do think that people not giving credit to the devs and all of the people that make this happen is really messed up though.
I don't believe in these kinds of businesses, here in Puerto Rico, there are lots of stores that dedicate themselves to hack iPhones or as they call it "unlock" it. And they charge like 30$!! It's ridiculous! I get disgusted every time I see one
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eggydrums said:
I don't believe in these kinds of businesses, here in Puerto Rico, there are lots of stores that dedicate themselves to hack iPhones or as they call it "unlock" it. And they charge like 30$!! It's ridiculous! I get disgusted every time I see one
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well its the same as a computer repair store pretty much...
but i dont believe in people stretching the truth so much like the snippet that was posted in the op. i mean if you want to help someone who's afraid to do it themselves, and they are willing to give you a couple bucks why not? now i wouldnt charge $30 for anything... the highest i'd go would be $10 lol
ziggy46 said:
well its the same as a computer repair store pretty much...
but i dont believe in people stretching the truth so much like the snippet that was posted in the op. i mean if you want to help someone who's afraid to do it themselves, and they are willing to give you a couple bucks why not? now i wouldnt charge $30 for anything... the highest i'd go would be $10 lol
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Yeah I also wouldn't make a big business out of either like the people I mentioned, I'll be honest, puertorricans can be pretty dumb most of the time, lol
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rubyman94 said:
It's not about being lazy, it's about the conformity. We all go to the mechanic to fix our cars unless you know how to fix it, obviously. That's just how it works man. I do think that people not giving credit to the devs and all of the people that make this happen is really messed up though.
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Nah..I'm sticking with my lazy comment. people don't bother to learn anything anymore. Doesn't take long to read how to root and flash.
the business isn't about giving credit, it's about charging money for something that's free
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Welcome to reality!
Thing is I guarantee he is making his monies off people. Happens all the time. Business as usual and living the American dream.....even in different countries....
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Android SDK on the sidekick lol it just wasn't what it is today
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Some of you guys must not understand the difference between selling a service and selling a tangible product. You're paying for this guys time and knowledge of rooting android phones. Don't be such a stick in the mud
mrmako777 said:
Some of you guys must not understand the difference between selling a service and selling a tangible product. You're paying for this guys time and knowledge of rooting android phones. Don't be such a stick in the mud
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Agreed. I don't see the problem with it. Heck if I could make it into a side business I would. As others have said, they aren't selling the work that others have made, they're charging for their time, knowledge, gas (in a lot of cases they will travel to you) and convenience to root/hack/mod a phone that the owner doesn't want to do themselves. Yeah they can read some forums and do it themselves, but if they're willing to pay for it, it means they're either lazy and don't care or aren't technically inclined.
Some phones really aren't as simple as you would think to root and simply install wifi tether, for example. Downloading drivers, reading the root process for that device, downloading the scripts and tools, copying files to and from the phone, rebooting and the wait adds up into a lot of time and sometimes frustration. A lot of people don't want to deal with it, and if I'm going to learn all of that and sacrifice my time for someone I don't know, I want to be compensated.
I worked for Data Doctors (computer repair business) and while our prices (not set by me) were a little expensive, people gladly paid it because they didn't know how nor could they be bothered to fix the system themselves. That's business.
it took my around 5 hours the other day to figure out how to root, s-off and flash a custom rom on the Amaze. If I had already started my new job I would definitiv have paid the $15 to save me 5 hours of time.
Times are hard and knowledge is power.
If this guy knows what he's doing why not let him do it?
I think it's f*ed up that you flagged just because you're an XDA member who "supposedly" knows better.
He's trying to make some money off of his knowledge.
I mean, just because the information is here doesn't mean everyone who reads it understands it or could implement it.
Some people are not technology inclined.
YouTube has videos on how to do almost everything but just because you watch doesn't mean you'll be able to do it.
What was wrong with him trying to make money from the time and effort he invested into understanding the rooting and unlocking process of a phone?
Honestly..flagging him was a d**k move.
Took my girlfriends mytouch4gslide, he screwed up. Download ruu ....
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For me, I want to know how to root and flash my own ROMs. Without knowing how to do things yourself you're stuck with whatever this guy loads on your phone, and isn't that the point of rooting, being able to load custom ROMs.
be proud of your work cause shearing is caring i learned a lot form xda i do get paid to fix my friends phones for them but when i get paid i save it just for XDA DEV who's work i used to do the job it's not stealing it's called Redistributing & dev can always spot there work from a mile away i used to burn movies and sell it on Craigslist i even posted adds on hacking any games on android with gamecih ^_^ wow those were the days i would ask $20 a pop lol 1 day i had over 15 calls lmfao like ice cube said TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY
+ thanks to gay Bush n homo Obama
the economy is Focked
i don't wanna sell drugs / rob people not when i got 2 kids
now i work 13hr shift 6 days a week
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nguyendqh said:
Times are hard and knowledge is power.
If this guy knows what he's doing why not let him do it?
I think it's f*ed up that you flagged just because you're an XDA member who "supposedly" knows better.
He's trying to make some money off of his knowledge.
I mean, just because the information is here doesn't mean everyone who reads it understands it or could implement it.
Some people are not technology inclined.
YouTube has videos on how to do almost everything but just because you watch doesn't mean you'll be able to do it.
What was wrong with him trying to make money from the time and effort he invested into understanding the rooting and unlocking process of a phone?
Honestly..flagging him was a d**k move.
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word fam i feels you on this ho ^_^ http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=848723
No xlue
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816639
i was wondering how hard it would be to port this over, cuz no offense to KK but im not paying that $5 a month
and if there would be a dev willing to give it a go
Julianmgn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816639
i was wondering how hard it would be to port this over, cuz no offense to KK but im not paying that $5 a month
and if there would be a dev willing to give it a go
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Is it just because you don't like KK? I know there is some sentiment on the forums about KK and there is some type of a flame war. Maybe some dev will pick this up.
Julianmgn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816639
i was wondering how hard it would be to port this over, cuz no offense to KK but im not paying that $5 a month
and if there would be a dev willing to give it a go
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Haha, dude.. If you where a developer wouldn't you want done type of compensation for your efforts? If you want something that bad just party for it. We are lucky more of these guys do all of this for us without asking for anything in return. That said, 5$ for a rom is not that bad man.. Thats less than 1 meal at a fast food place.
Support android, support our phone and the developers who make it better and better daily. I don't know, just my take on the situation.
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WOW dude u are so cheap damn these dudes stay up all day and night to make these for us and u act like 5 dollars a month is really goin to break u. SMDH that just dont make no sense no appreciation.
Julianmgn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816639
i was wondering how hard it would be to port this over, cuz no offense to KK but im not paying that $5 a month
and if there would be a dev willing to give it a go
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Just asking but how much are you paying for cell service? How much did you pay for the phone that came not fully functional? Seems if you want to OC to 1.3 and have it fully functional $5 is a small price to pay considering the amount of work involved.
I'm with the OP on this one. I think it's retarded to pay a subscription to be a "premium member". I don't know why people felt they needed to attack the OP....to each their own I guess.
I dont think they attacked the op, but most of this community knows that developers put alot of hardwork and effort into kernels, roms, ect. They have to put up with complaints, and people whinning. They have to offer assistance for issues, and asnwer thousands of questions. 5 dlls is a small fee to pay
djf8 said:
I'm with the OP on this one. I think it's retarded to pay a subscription to be a "premium member". I don't know why people felt they needed to attack the OP....to each their own I guess.
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I'm sorry if you feel we are attacking the OP. Do a quick search and you will see he has posted this same topic several times in the last 24hrs. Maybe that's part of the reason. In my opinion, if he want's that extra bump it would seem like a small price to pay. Phone is plenty fast enough for most users at 1.2 and that's free thanks to the contributions from users and the kindness and dedication of the developers here. Just my 2 pennies.
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I'm with the OP on this one. I think it's retarded to pay a subscription to be a "premium member". I don't know why people felt they needed to attack the OP....to each their own I guess.
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Yeah, at least for me, I have no problem paying developers for their hard work, but over the course of a year, 5 dollars a month becomes 60 dollars which, yeah, is really more that this is worth, especially if we want to spend it on other things as well (other software, etc). Just saying. 5 dollars once is one thing, 5 dollars / month is another.
I don't really understand what the problem is here, ask king for his code. It's the beauty of the GPL. It would be nice to get that code, Eugene's 2.2 kernel source and that nice I9000 filesystem mod all together in a neat little kernel for 2.2 on the vibrant.
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the way things are going with htc, motorola, etc. locking the roms with acutal hardware - whats the point.
if we keep gabbing over 5 bucks what is going to keep devs willing to spend their time and brains, if people are going to cry about it once they release it.
pretty soon it won't be the developers or google we are yelling about it will be the handset manufactur and the provider.
What gets me is there are several people over at KKs board right now that have paid and have received no password for platinum access nor has anyone even tried to help. That isn't right.
If you head over to kks forum under the Vibrant development you'll see several people that have paid days ago with no password nor any help. Not cool.....
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My thoughts are scattered. At one point i'd say a 1.2 oc is not going to pale much in comparison to a 1.3. My other thoughts would be a one time fee is more reasonable but also harder to swallow. Would you rather pay fifteen dollars straight up or monthly cost. I can't see anyone paying fifteen straight up.
Other thoughts. It's disappointing how much well get for free and are not satisfied. However I think donating is a good way to show appreciation I do not believe these things should be done with the intention of making money but if they at putting this much time into it and not getting enough donations to make it worth it to where they have to feel the need to charge. That's just too bad. In the end if you don't like the cost of a product don't buy it...
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lorddart said:
My thoughts are scattered. At one point i'd say a 1.2 oc is not going to pale much in comparison to a 1.3. My other thoughts would be a one time fee is more reasonable but also harder to swallow. Would you rather pay fifteen dollars straight up or monthly cost. I can't see anyone paying fifteen straight up.
Other thoughts. It's disappointing how much well get for free and are not satisfied. However I think donating is a good way to show appreciation I do not believe these things should be done with the intention of making money but if they at putting this much time into it and not getting enough donations to make it worth it to where they have to feel the need to charge. That's just too bad. In the end if you don't like the cost of a product don't buy it...
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Yeah but you also have people over at kks forum that aren't receiving what they paid for nor any support on the matter so why would anyone that's been to that thread and seen that pay knowing they won't receive any support.
Now I've been giving money to developers for a long time but I'm not giving anyone my money that can't show a little support now and then.
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Unoffcial manufactures and carrier dev's
Yes let's not tinker with our electronics let's all run stock software on all our devices from smart-phones pc's sat receivers ect. Let's all pay out the ass every year for new hardware/software like I really need my phone oc to 1.5ghz I like being locked to a market and have to buy apps that the dev's of apps get taken for 20% by the market (apple, Google, ms) ect. I love my phone locked to the carrier that charges 10 cents a sms for 160 character e-mail. Let's just assume that a 1ghz smart-phone needs to be a quad core 4.0 with 2 gig internal ram. So I can play 3d games on a 4" screen while I work in open office on my power point pres. and sms and make a call at same time while my nice 27" computer is 20 feet away. I love having 10 old cell phones lying around love figuring out what the hell is this charger is for. For god sakes man please let me give US $$$ to the Asian countries instead.............. (they actually own everything anyway)
PC's get smaller Phones gets bigger and tablets are just baffling me. Cant's we just get an implant in our brains for all of it?
Sorry recieving an OTA update to my head have to lay down 8 hours so I have to end this rant....... Sure hope the gas.lib gets fixed this time it's been hell farting out of my ears........
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Yes let's not tinker with our electronics let's all run stock software on all our devices from smart-phones pc's sat receivers ect. Let's all pay out the ass every year for new hardware/software like I really need my phone oc to 1.5ghz I like being locked to a market and have to buy apps that the dev's of apps get taken for 20% by the market (apple, Google, ms) ect. I love my phone locked to the carrier that charges 10 cents a sms for 160 character e-mail. Let's just assume that a 1ghz smart-phone needs to be a quad core 4.0 with 2 gig internal ram. So I can play 3d games on a 4" screen while I work in open office on my power point pres. and sms and make a call at same time while my nice 27" computer is 20 feet away. I love having 10 old cell phones lying around love figuring out what the hell is this charger is for. For god sakes man please let me give US $$$ to the Asian countries instead.............. (they actually own everything anyway)
PC's get smaller Phones gets bigger and tablets are just baffling me. Cant's we just get an implant in our brains for all of it?
Sorry recieving an OTA update to my head have to lay down 8 hours so I have to end this rant....... Sure hope the gas.lib gets fixed this time it's been hell farting out of my ears........
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Hey at least your getting your sleep OTA update. I'm still lost due to my bad GPS update and don't get me started about my frozen yogurt. I'm just trying to get a better taste in my mouth!
I don't see the point of OC-ing any more. We only have one dev doing kernels. Also because once we like 1.4 GHz stable, then those same ppl asking for that kernel is gonna be complaining about the battery being drained too quick. U can't please noobs...its impossible to keep noobs .just my .02 opinion
Stop bothering us, we're working on it that's all you really need to know. Just relax and enjoy the tablet itself. Ok? We're not your personal servants, we're just regular people with other things in our lives going on than just developing. Basically, GET THE HELL OFF OUR BACKS. Kthx.
Thanks to you, and all the dev's who devote your time and effort then share to all the masses. Wish some people would get that and be a little grateful at the very least. If you guys ever need a tester let me know otherwise you will see my thanks button clicked as many times as I can.
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Indirect said:
Stop bothering us, we're working on it that's all you really need to know. Just relax and enjoy the tablet itself. Ok? We're not your personal servants, we're just regular people with other things in our lives going on than just developing. Basically, GET THE HELL OFF OUR BACKS. Kthx.
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So... what your really saying is, its not done yet today? ok, will check back with you in 5 minutes. Kthnx! ;P
Indirect, +1.
Albert you silly little troll. ^_^
Indirect said:
Stop bothering us, we're working on it that's all you really need to know. Just relax and enjoy the tablet itself. Ok? We're not your personal servants, we're just regular people with other things in our lives going on than just developing. Basically, GET THE HELL OFF OUR BACKS. Kthx.
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No one is on YOUR back. If you don't want the 400$ then don't mess with it period. Neither you nor any other dev has the right to tell me what to do with my tablet. If i want a unlocked bootloader in the next seven days then I have the right to ask for it period.
Please dont participate by any means
What he is saying is that YOU aren't doing it. Begging for bootloader unlocks and offering money won't get it done any quicker. The people developing / hacking this device do it because they want to, not for money. By asking for it to be done you are asking the developers, and Indirect is one.
brett014 said:
No one is on YOUR back. If you don't want the 400$ then don't mess with it period. Neither you nor any other dev has the right to tell me what to do with my tablet. If i want a unlocked bootloader in the next seven days then I have the right to ask for it period.
Please dont participate by any means
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What you're offering amounts to minimum wage if you consider the person works on it for 8 hours a day for the next 7 days. On top of that, you are rude and have a strong sense of self entitlement. The developers do it out of personal self interest. Any other incentives are just icing on the cake.
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brett014 said:
No one is on YOUR back. If you don't want the 400$ then don't mess with it period. Neither you nor any other dev has the right to tell me what to do with my tablet. If i want a unlocked bootloader in the next seven days then I have the right to ask for it period.
Please dont participate by any means
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Please just return your nt and stop posting.
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DRatJr said:
What he is saying is that YOU aren't doing it. Begging for bootloader unlocks and offering money won't get it done any quicker. The people developing / hacking this device do it because they want to, not for money. By asking for it to be done you are asking the developers, and Indirect is one.
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There are likely many people working on this and there are probably more than the vocal few here or associated with this site. I think some people can appreciate the work being done while also knowing that those telling others about progress and status aren't the only ones doing some work on this device which is why the OP just threw an offer out.
There also seem to be a great number of people blindly following people just due to words they say, and as they say, talk is cheap. Excitement is one thing but it wouldn't hurt to know what they are getting excited about sometimes.
Personally I've been using Linux or *nix based operating system daily for 10 years and it's just a little bit disappointing sometimes to see a general lack of knowledge related to Linux when it comes to some pretty basic things that relate to Android and getting anywhere with it from "hacking". And I literally am just a user and absolutely do not write code, just copy and paste it about when there are things to fix at the very extreme. The solution here without getting "the key" is going to come from someone writing the code to make it work and maybe $400 or $500 or beyond will bring a person to spend some time on it where they normally wouldn't.
Another point, if he has the 400 to offer and the 250 to spend on it, why not just buy a full on android tablet?
All I can say is thanks for making my NT usable in the first place! Without the sideloading/root ability it would be practically useless. Devs adding even more function would just be icing on the cake, so no sweat.
Just to set the record straight, you're only hearing from the impatient vocal ones. There's a lot more of us sitting quietly on the sidelines cheering you guys on.
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Just to set the record straight, you're only hearing from the impatient vocal ones. There's a lot more of us sitting quietly on the sidelines cheering you guys on.
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Ditto , now back to my popcorn.
Number one rule of android- do not ask for ETA's!
DRatJr said:
What he is saying is that YOU aren't doing it. Begging for bootloader unlocks and offering money won't get it done any quicker. The people developing / hacking this device do it because they want to, not for money. By asking for it to be done you are asking the developers, and Indirect is one.
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LOL I am begging for a bootloader unlock? How about I am trying to get more than ONE developer working on the Nook Tablet. You do realize we had 30+ on the Nook Color right?
Your comments are flaming and just down right wrong. Look up the definition of begging in the dictionary and I promise you won't find offering to pay someone to do a job in the definition.
I love how you think EVERY dev is only here for fun, which is complete BS. Probably 50% of devs are here to develop for THEMSELVES, and just release to the public because they are good people. Then another 40% do it for cash, and then you have the 10% who do it just because they are bored. All I am offering is someone besides the 1 dev we have to look at the problem, and if they break it give them a reward.
Like I said in the post if you don't want to try, then don't. No one is holding a gun to your head.
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Another point, if he has the 400 to offer and the 250 to spend on it, why not just buy a full on android tablet?
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I have 300$ wrapped up in my nook tablet, and it has to be returned by next monday. Once I pay shipping back then spend hours researching a new tablet I will easily have more than 400$ in it.
I loved the nook color, and I bought the Nook Tablet because I was told by 2 different BN employees that it was unlocked (before we had any devs).
My returning the NT because I was lied to is my choice, period.
Like I said if you don't want to participate in the reward, then DON'T.
But my guess is, if you broke the bootloader u would be loudly demanding the reward, as would Indirect and everyone else who is complaining.
I am not flaming. You are requesting a bootloader unlock way too soon. These things take time. Why not just return it, then wait for a bootloader unlock to come out, then buy it again? Or just buy a full out android tablet?
Wow. So 12 posts, $400 bucks and you own the joint.
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Wow. So 12 posts, $400 bucks and you own the joint.
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Wow. So 13 posts, no cash and you own the right to do... well nothing.
Like I said people amaze me. Try to help them and all they do is complain.
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DRatJr said:
I am not flaming. You are requesting a bootloader unlock way too soon. These things take time. Why not just return it, then wait for a bootloader unlock to come out, then buy it again? Or just buy a full out android tablet?
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I very well may do that, but would rather not go to the hassle of packaging it back up and shipping it back to BN and dealing with that whole mess. Then spending hours research which other tablet I want to buy. I loved the NC and the NT has the potential in doing the same. We need devs here first and foremost and none are going to come without incentive.
For me I want try and get some more devs to the NT so we have a chance at a decent device. One dev isn't going to make it that and having a locked bootloader will make sure no others come if there isn't an incentive. If you don't believe me about the devs go check out the Droid Bionic. Killer hardware, locked bootloader, out for several months and a total of 3 devs whose hands are tide because of the crappy kernel
Return the NT and leave a comment to the CTO of BN telling them they have a crappy product with a locked bootloader. Complaining on Xda will get you nowhere. You could employ your own personal dev to unlock the bootloader, but don't use money to entice devs Xda members. EOS.
Am I the only one that is sick of HTC lagging on releasing source code. I'm so tired of them dragging their sorry asses around with slow code releases for our phones. The whole thing is so stupid.
First we have the stupid 1.5 Hboot problem. What a pain in the ass. All so a few thousand people can't properly tinker with the device, which they paid good money for. That is so weak. And from a company that is supposed to be dev friendly. Right. All they are is annoying the most loyal customers they have.
Next we have the lack of source code for the newest kernel, 2.17.651.5. Without this code, the entire developer section is divided. We want the features from the established roms, but we can't have them along with the new OTA updates without your code. Just release it already. We are not going to sell it or start our own phone companies for F sake. We can't even use our cameras properly since you gave us botched camera code compared to other similar phones. Only god knows why you would do that.
PLEASE, if an HTC rep reads this, please help the community out. Give us the complete tools to unlock our phones, and the code to customize our phones as we see fit. We all promise to not break them and return them for one of the millions you already have sitting around the world. We already bought your stupid phone(s). Now give us the tools to make them better.
Thank you.
ps
When you release the update for ICS, please give us the option to run with or without Sense. Some of us love it, some of us hate it. But let it be our choice. Perhaps you could make Sense a bundle of widgets on top of ICS. I don't care how you do it, just do it right for a change.
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I agree....
Yess, agree wit this!
Yup. Give me stock, HTC
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Serren said:
Am I the only one that is sick of HTC lagging on releasing source code. I'm so tired of them dragging their sorry asses around with slow code releases for our phones. The whole thing is so stupid.
First we have the stupid 1.5 Hboot problem. What a pain in the ass. All so a few thousand people can't properly tinker with the device, which they paid good money for. That is so weak. And from a company that is supposed to be dev friendly. Right. All they are is annoying the most loyal customers they have.
Next we have the lack of source code for the newest kernel, 2.17.651.5. Without this code, the entire developer section is divided. We want the features from the established roms, but we can't have them along with the new OTA updates without your code. Just release it already. We are not going to sell it or start our own phone companies for F sake. We can't even use our cameras properly since you gave us botched camera code compared to other similar phones. Only god knows why you would do that.
PLEASE, if an HTC rep reads this, please help the community out. Give us the complete tools to unlock our phones, and the code to customize our phones as we see fit. We all promise to not break them and return them for one of the millions you already have sitting around the world. We already bought your stupid phone(s). Now give us the tools to make them better.
Thank you.
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When you release the update for ICS, please give us the option to run with or without Sense. Some of us love it, some of us hate it. But let it be our choice. Perhaps you could make Sense a bundle of widgets on top of ICS. I don't care how you do it, just do it right for a change.
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Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
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Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
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Why are you still here?
Sell your phone if you don't like it.. or how the manufacturer release update/source
I'm sure the photon/ET4G forums need your wisdom and advice
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Why are you still here?
Sell your phone if you don't like it.. or how the manufacturer release update/source
I'm sure the photon/ET4G forums need your wisdom and advice
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Why are reading this thread? You knew what you would find when you openend it.
I'm still here because I own an Evo 3D, why the heck do you think I'm still here? Dumbass.
I don't believe that other manufactures are that much better. I guess try one and see. With that said I feel as though source should be released THE SAME TIME AS the update or with in a week. None of this 30 day/when we get to it crap.
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Why are reading this thread? You knew what you would find when you openend it.
I'm still here because I own an Evo 3D, why the heck do you think I'm still here? Dumbass.
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No need to start the childish name calling...
My point is simple sell it if you don't like it... Then tell your boy friend and all your chums you think HTC is bollocks...
Complaining about it isn't getting you far on xda...
Reverting to your childish ways I can tell you don't know how to handle your self when sarcasm and questions are directed at you...rather than name calling a simple "i own it,and I'm gonna make sure everyone knows I hate it" answer would have sufficed...
And I'm the dumbass.... Lol
Atleast I know when to let things go and move on..
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yeah this gets kinda old but does anyone really spit out their kernel source in a timely manner besides Google?
I remember this guy running at the mouth talking about HTC delays last year.
http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/12/24/
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No need to start the childish name calling...
My point is simple sell it if you don't like it... Then tell your boy friend and all your chums you think HTC is bollocks...
Complaining about it isn't getting you far on xda...
Reverting to your childish ways I can tell you don't know how to handle your self when sarcasm and questions are directed at you...rather than name calling a simple "i own it,and I'm gonna make sure everyone knows I hate it" answer would have sufficed...
And I'm the dumbass.... Lol
Atleast I know when to let things go and move on..
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You came in here and made an entire post dedicated to me, and then say you know how to let things go and move on?
lol, dumbass
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You came in here and made an entire post dedicated to me, and then say you know how to let things go and move on?
lol, dumbass
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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You asked what I am still doing here. In a thread that was not started by me, with several other replies, every single one of them *****ing about HTC, you decided to ask ME what I'm still doing here. So I told you, I have an Evo 3d, why the heck do you think I'm still here?
Why don't I sell it? Because there isn't another 3D phone on Sprint at the moment and I got stuck in a 2 year contract when I bought this phone. Common sense.
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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I agree with him - this phone is "meh" AT BEST as long as HTC does business this way. I'm constantly checking my contract end date because I'm going to bail unless HTC changes things. Unfortunately, it's probably going to be a sammy. Oh I almost forgot to ask - please bugger off.
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Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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I agree with him - this phone is "meh" AT BEST as long as HTC does business this way. I'm constantly checking my contract end date because I'm going to bail unless HTC changes things. Unfortunately, it's probably going to be a sammy. Oh I almost forgot to ask - please bugger off.
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how quick does Sammy release their source code????
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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I haven't seen it. I'm hoping now that google owns them things will change. I won't be buying one of their phones until they are unlockable though, so it doesn't matter.
Samsung is a viable alternative though. Fully unlockable on day 1 and source.code released in a timely manner.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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Yeah Motorola aren't saints either, matter fact, all of these phone manufacturers are no good, its just a matter of picking your poison when choosing a manufacturer & phone. Had 3 Samsung phones (Moment, Epic, & Nexus S 4G), but I chose to stick with HTC because of the huge dev community behind it, & I'm at peace with that choice.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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how quick does Sammy release their source code????
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Now thats a positive for Sammy, I seen them release source code BEFORE carriers release OTA's!
not trying to scare anyone, just a PSA
we know the droid 3 exploit works (its how about 97% of you rooted). however the electrify has a 2.3.5 update that blocks it.. which means that photon owners will prolly be rootless come next update. :O
the man who has brought out a good number of root exploits, Dan Rosenberg has a new trick up his sleeve. seems hes already got the next wave of motos rooted including the droid 4 that released today. thing is there is gunna be a lot of people using it (i know its what ill be changing the one click to so that we can root the electrify. and think about how many other moto devices that will be freed. with that in mind djrbliss is looking to get himself a droid 4 (ew who uses verizon? ).
anyways long story short, i included a we pay link he gets 200 he'll make it public and then any extra goes to the american red cross. so if you have root now, or in the future its prolly cuz of this guy. if your an electrify owner and want a nice easy one click? then shoot this guy a few bucks
https://www.wepay.com/donations/droid-4-root-bounty
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not trying to scare anyone, just a PSA
we know the droid 3 exploit works (its how about 97% of you rooted). however the electrify has a 2.3.5 update that blocks it.. which means that photon owners will prolly be rootless come next update. :O
the man who has brought out a good number of root exploits, Dan Rosenberg has a new trick up his sleeve. seems hes already got the next wave of motos rooted including the droid 4 that released today. thing is there is gunna be a lot of people using it (i know its what ill be changing the one click to so that we can root the electrify. and think about how many other moto devices that will be freed. with that in mind djrbliss is looking to get himself a droid 4 (ew who uses verizon? ).
anyways long story short, i included a we pay link he gets 200 he'll make it public and then any extra goes to the american red cross. so if you have root now, or in the future its prolly cuz of this guy. if your an electrify owner and want a nice easy one click? then shoot this guy a few bucks
https://www.wepay.com/donations/droid-4-root-bounty
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Incorrect. When it reaches $500 he'll release it.
I'll be glad to kick in $20 whenever the time comes that I need to root for ICS or have to re-root because I couldn't ignore 2.3.5 (I'll ignore 2.3.5 if I can).
What if CM team ask for money before releasing or joker.....think about that for a min. Smh.
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What if CM team ask for money before releasing or joker.....think about that for a min. Smh.
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i could see where that is fitting i suppose. i knew most of the people who would be interested would be people who are locked out of root (droid 4) and possibly electrify owners that want a one click. just figured id let people know since he has done a whole lot for the rooting community.. :/
http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2012/02/11/rooting-the-droid-4-a-failed-bounty-experiment/
he posted a nice blog entry on it :/
ill be updateing the one click for its use, and putting a donate to him link
Wow! I guess if you aren't cooking ROMs, you can forget ever getting a donation...
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Wow! I guess if you aren't cooking ROMs, you can forget ever getting a donation...
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How is $575 (and he has stopped accepting) a failure?
With all respect to the dev, I think the mistake he made was the "I'll release it when y'all pay $500". THAT (his message) was the failure in the "experiment". The $200 for a phone was not the issue.
'nuff said - I am NOT trying to inflame anything here. I believe the dev has done awesome free work for us, but could have avoided all of this with slightly different words.
People are still people and the psychology of messages still counts!
Please take all the above ramblings in a respectful, positive and helpful tone!
No offense but if he did it, he has the right to wait for 500. 99% of us work for free. Ad clicks and donations are nice but not expected. That doesn't mean we don't have to work for free it just means we do.
So if you want to donate, its your money.
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No offense but if he did it, he has the right to wait for 500. 99% of us work for free. Ad clicks and donations are nice but not expected. That doesn't mean we don't have to work for free it just means we do.
So if you want to donate, its your money.
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I totally agree - he had every right to set a number and not release until that number was reached. He has no obligation to unlock phones for free.
But we'll never know in this case since he changed the rules mid-experiment, which means the experiment neither failed nor succeeded. When I saw the way he originally announced it, I thought "this won't end well" (see below for more).
The point I was trying to make was that, from a human psych POV, that a bounty (really a ransom here) is not an effective motivator for a bunch of opinionated, strong-willed contributors like us.
Case in point - a few years ago at ppcGeeks, $300 bounty, "release when paid" for a Win Mo phone (TP2 I think), people got ruffled, rules got changed, dev collected $1,000 in 2 days.
It's all about psychology and messaging, for although we are are bit different from a lot of people, we are still normal people. A carrot remains a better motivator than a stick.
In my opinion, the dev should have said "hard work", "please contribute", "first 200 to me for a phone which is a tool that will benefit you", "next 100 / 200 for my family", "rest to charity" (if that's really what he wants to; keep it all if he wants). Just my opinion of course - and I respect that the dev may or may not care in the slightest about all my words (assume he doesn't).
Sorry for the number of words - although an engineer, I took a lot of psych in college.
Dude shoulda bought a phone. Sheesh. Its donations, he can do what he wants with it.
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Dude shoulda bought a phone. Sheesh. Its donations, he can do what he wants with it.
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Yes - he should have bought a phone, and then dinner for his wife/gf ....... I told him that via a different route; also told him no matter what he did, he'd get some snarky comments that he should just ignore.
So I was wondering what you guys thought? I have wanted to work there for a while. I've been known as the go to phone guy in my circles and really like helping people and showing them all the amazing things that can be done with these phones. I have a job interview in the next week or two coming up and have really wanted this. Always been great with electronics, computers, and phones. Been hacking phones since the back in the day razor. There are things I want to accomplish within Sprint. Better support for our community, better tech support, better service overall. I have come from working hard labor construction jobs that I really don't belong in and have wanted a change for a long time. I moved from south Jersey to Knoxville Tennessee to get a fresh start and back on my feet, and away from all of the negatives that have held me back. I feel I am finally ready for this. So what do u guys think?
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I think you just nailed the interview.
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Good luck to you and hope that you get the job.
Your resume was good enough to get you the interview so now you have to sale yourself and tell Sprint why they should hire you. After reading what you just wrote, I definitely think you should use that as your 'so tell me a little bit about yourself' speech, also called elevator talk. Keep it under 2 to 3 minutes and the rest of the interview should be some basic tech questions, which I'm pretty sure you're nail, just don't BS any questions you don't know the answer to. You got this, I think you'll kick that interview in the nuts! Good luck and let us know what happens.
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i always wanted to work at sprint but my record stops me from alot of jobs.. sux! wasnt thinking about that when i was actin a fool..
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So I was wondering what you guys thought? I have wanted to work there for a while. I've been known as the go to phone guy in my circles and really like helping people and showing them all the amazing things that can be done with these phones. I have a job interview in the next week or two coming up and have really wanted this. Always been great with electronics, computers, and phones. Been hacking phones since the back in the day razor. There are things I want to accomplish within Sprint. Better support for our community, better tech support, better service overall. I have come from working hard labor construction jobs that I really don't belong in and have wanted a change for a long time. I moved from south Jersey to Knoxville Tennessee to get a fresh start and back on my feet, and away from all of the negatives that have held me back. I feel I am finally ready for this. So what do u guys think?
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We'll have one of our own on the inside >
Thanks, my friend that is really professional and business oriented and has been helping me with resume, and interview q&a getting me ready. I love this community and never liked how the big dogs treat us when we come into the store. I want too be one of the ones that helps us if our phone is rooted or we are one of the more advanced customers. I want to work to make all of us fellow androiders, phone modders, normal phone users and even iPhone users more welcome and enjoy their phone even more.
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You Sound way to over qualified to be a Sprint employee....
good luck man.
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I love this community and never liked how the big dogs treat us when we come into the store.
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My sprint store asks me for trouble shooting advice and app recommendations every time I stop by, it's actually why I stopped going lol. Good luck with the interview
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So I was wondering what you guys thought? I have wanted to work there for a while. I've been known as the go to phone guy in my circles and really like helping people and showing them all the amazing things that can be done with these phones. I have a job interview in the next week or two coming up and have really wanted this. Always been great with electronics, computers, and phones. Been hacking phones since the back in the day razor. There are things I want to accomplish within Sprint. Better support for our community, better tech support, better service overall. I have come from working hard labor construction jobs that I really don't belong in and have wanted a change for a long time. I moved from south Jersey to Knoxville Tennessee to get a fresh start and back on my feet, and away from all of the negatives that have held me back. I feel I am finally ready for this. So what do u guys think?
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I'm actually going to my local sprint store tomorrow to inquire about a position they have available at a store about 25 mins away not ideal, but your resume sounds pretty close to mine, I'm in retail now selling dog food and i could care less about that, phones on the other hand i bet i could set records at my store. Usually when i walk in there i educate the employees lol. Good luck, maybe sprint will hire two great reps. Btw, are u going for a franchise or a corporate store?
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Hey, I say if u want it, go fuggin get it... Just don't forget where u came from and allow a convert.. Lol.. I could only dream of an interview like this and u already got that.. Good luck to ya and remember where YOU "came" from.. Notice the quotes cuz u got the job..
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You should be fine and you should get the job but things you need to remember:
If you're selling phones, you won't be selling phones to people like us. You'll be selling phones to extra regular people. So all of your knowledge on here is pretty much irrelevant. If someone wants to do something and you yourself know that they could easily do it rooted, if you tell them that, you may be messing them up. And most people don't want to have to do all of this extra work for simple features. So telling them they'd have to root or something like that will actually steer them away from android and if Sprint wants you to push Android, you're hurting yourself and your sales.
Also, how you go about fixing things will be pretty irrelevant. You can't root the devices and unroot so at the end of the day if something goes down you're still gonna have to go through those set up procedures they lay out...
So having all of this knowledge is great but you may end up hating it all in the end because you can't go in there and do what you want. You can't really say what you want because you'll be around a different audience. This site and all of your hacking experience will be irrelevant and will probably go over most people's heads. And your troubleshooting methods will be limited.
All in all, you may be overqualified. If you really want to work with phones, look into internships and dev work where you get to do what you want. Going into Sprint and their own system won't make you feel any better.
Edit: Had to fix spacing. For some reason the text field would go off screen so I had to enter in new lines so I could see it. Just went back myself in a different browser to fix it.
Best wishes to OP, and very good points by ms (and many others)
From my Evo LTE, yup.
Talk about how you love phones and are great with them, but don't mention rooting and/or stuff related to root/s-off.
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I worked for the largest private staffing company in the world and can offer a couple things or rehash what others have said but most important thing in to leave your prospects realizing the value goes both ways. They are hiribg you and you are potentially hiring them. Sell that confidence and you are golden.
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I'm actually going to my local sprint store tomorrow to inquire about a position they have available at a store about 25 mins away not ideal, but your resume sounds pretty close to mine, I'm in retail now selling dog food and i could care less about that, phones on the other hand i bet i could set records at my store. Usually when i walk in there i educate the employees lol. Good luck, maybe sprint will hire two great reps. Btw, are u going for a franchise or a corporate store?
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Franchise. Yes, and selling phones is only to get my foot in the door. Tech would be next and down the line management. I have had good experiences with Sprint but it is the bad ones that always stick out. Those are what I wish to improve upon.
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You should be fine and you should get the job but things you need to remember:
If you're selling phones, you won't be selling phones to people like us. You'll be selling phones to extra regular people. So all of your knowledge on here is pretty much irrelevant. If someone wants to do something and you yourself know that they could easily do it rooted, if you tell them that, you may be messing them up. And most people don't want to have to do all of this extra work for simple features. So telling them they'd have to root or something like that will actually steer them away from android and if Sprint wants you to push Android, you're hurting yourself and your sales.
Also, how you go about fixing things will be pretty irrelevant. You can't root the devices and unroot so at the end of the day if something goes down you're still gonna have to go through those set up procedures they lay out...
So having all of this knowledge is great but you may end up hating it all in the end because you can't go in there and do what you want. You can't really say what you want because you'll be around a different audience. This site and all of your hacking experience will be irrelevant and will probably go over most people's heads. And your troubleshooting methods will be limited.
All in all, you may be overqualified. If you really want to work with phones, look into internships and dev work where you get to do what you want. Going into Sprint and their own system won't make you feel any better.
Edit: Had to fix spacing. For some reason the text field would go off screen so I had to enter in new lines so I could see it. Just went back myself in a different browser to fix it.
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I've understood that for a long time now. We are not normal people here on xda, lol. Sometimes people just need to be shown how easily settings can be changed or what app they are looking for to suite their needs. The simpler people will need iPhones or even the dying flip type rugged phones for the construction industry. Normal people don't want to here about rooting. In fact I refuse to s-off/root others phones besides my own because they could seriously damage the OS, or it would turn out to be up to a 2 yr commitment maintaining that phone. Our modded eVos are in a whole different class that can't be touched unless it's relatively the same kind of modded phone. I also want to add their troubleshooting methods to my own. I know the tools we use but I want to know theirs as well. In personal life, people ask for such simple things like how to transfer music from the computer to their phone. Things that will bring them joy for yrs on a phone. A lot of people are still computer illiterate, but I'd rather change their thought process about phones than computers because these are truly the future. I practically only use my computer to play movies connected to my 50 inch. But a phone, well I've used that how everyone else uses a computer for yrs. Some of us on xda are light to moderate users that just want better battery to last through the day. I consider myself at the extreme of heavy user. Pretty much on it doing anything I want for as much time allows that I'm awake. One of those things is read, read, read on xda. Again I love this place, and you all show amazing support.
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ryanalan82 said:
Franchise. Yes, and selling phones is only to get my foot in the door. Tech would be next and down the line management. I have had good experiences with Sprint but it is the bad ones that always stick out. Those are what I wish to improve upon.
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Wha kind of retailer is it? I know it's a franchise. But which one?
And congrats OP, good luck. I landed a job with Sprint in September and am the top dog at my store now. I love this job and I always try and right the wrongs of the world by actually being a good phone rep because not everyone is! It's really a great gig.
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Franchise. Yes, and selling phones is only to get my foot in the door. Tech would be next and down the line management. I have had good experiences with Sprint but it is the bad ones that always stick out. Those are what I wish to improve upon.
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Yes, that is similar to my outlook, I've taken things apart since forever. I actually did a tear down video on the e3d before it was released. Good luck to ya!
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So what does a job like Sprint pay?
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