Galaxy S II or Galaxy S III? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm looking for a new device to replace my Galaxy S I and either one of these will be upgrades, but I want to see if the GSII can actually fulfill my needs. If I buy a GS II I'd only expect it to last a couple of years before I make the jump to something even more superior in like 2014, but if it's a GSIII, I hope it's a long term investment and last me at least 3 years.
I use my phone mainly as a web browser, camera, and for all my social integration stuff (emails, facebook, etc.). I watch videos on my phone a lot, and I've got like 80 GBs of Asian dramas and tv shows waiting to be loaded on my phone. Frustratingly my GSI can only handle 720p so I could only play the 720p ones but I'm sure either the GS2 or 3 can play even 1080p mkvs.
Thus, the most important aspects of a smartphone for me include the Screen, the Camera, speed, and durability.
Here are the pros and cons I weighed out:
Pro GS2:
Much more compact
RGB instead of Pentile
Literally indestructible
Con GS2:
Quite a few cases of "screen burn"
Shorter battery life
Pro GS3:
720p instead of WVGA
Better CPU, GPU, and almost everything else
Longer battery life
Con GS3:
Quite large IMO, not sure if I'd be happy holding it for a long duration
Relatively easy to break, + - same level as the iPhone 4/4s
So what do you guys say? Would the GSII suffice for my video watching needs or would the GS III be a much better choice if I want to use my phone that way?

Hi, I have the galaxy s2 and I am getting the s3. I don't recommend you get the s2, even though it is good cpu & gpu wise the screen, to be blunt, is crap in my opinion. I have to admit I was unnerved about the size of the screen on the s3, and all I can tell you to do is go to the shop and play with it. For me the screen was no where near as big as I thought it would be and was no longer an issue after playing around with it. I could touch everything with one hand. (I am 6'2 with decent sized hands)
The s3 is massively more future proof than the s2, so it could be a better investment of money. Also, I can't stress enough the amount more detail you could see on a pentile 720p screen than my wvga rgb s2 screen, for me that made me want to buy the phone alone. I'm not going to sugar coat it, if you look quite close you can make out the signs of pentile and see pixels. But from a usable distance it was so much more clear and crisp than my s2.
I should also mention the amount of people I have seen on xda saying how they dropped the s2 form wast height and it smashed. The s2 isn't as strong as people make it out to be. For the s3 I believe the drop testes weren't very controlled. As in one it survived being throw into the air and on to the floor, yet it didn't survive from a simple small height drop. I would just recommend you buy a case that protects the corners of the s3, like a tpu one that are really cheap.
Lastly, after I played around with the s3 it made my s2 feel laggy. I couldn't believe android device could be so smooth, and it did feel quite a bit faster. Overall, I honestly believe you should get the s3 over the s2 if money isn't a problem, and if it is bare in mind the s3 should be more future proof and you may not need to upgrade as fast as if you got the s3. I hope this helps you is some way.
Edit: Should mention, I was in a phone shop today, comparing my s2 next to the s3 for quite a while to make sure I actually like the s3. Also, look wise I thought the s3 was ugly and not a patch on the one x from the press photos and reviews. But after having it in my hand my first thought is that it looked beautiful, and I actually prefer it now to the one x, and it fitted so snugly in my hand next to my s2 and the one x. Photos don't do the phone justice, the phone looks so nice in life in my opinion of course.
Also, the s3 had a notification light and the s2 doesn't. I know the s1 also doesn't have one but coming from my old htc desire, I missed the notification light so much and I think if you got the s3 you may find you won't want a phone without one. Although I have to admit I really didn't like the color of the blue one at all, I have never had a white phone, but I really loved the white s3's.
For video watching the s2 is no good, the wvga screen just makes everything looks so soft and kind of lifeless. The s3's screen also had a lot less glare meaning, it should be nicer to watch videos on, and the much better battery is a massive plus for video watching.

While I don't own a SGS2 (only the SGS1 and SGS3) I've played around enough with my gf's SGS2 to give a somewhat accurate comparison.
Both phones match your requirements just fine.
The SGS2 is beefy enough to provide enough CPU/GPU performance for casual games in the coming years and should get updates and fixes at least through community-support (I strongly recommend Cyanogenmod with Siyah-Kernel) for a long time to come.
It's true that the SGS3's size is quite large, but whether it's too large depends on your hands. I can reach any spot on the screen (except the notification-area which requires a bit of stretching) just fine, while my gf is unable to use it one-handed.
Go to your local shop and try fiddling around. Either it matches or it doesn't; you won't get used to an oversized screen.
Now to your question regarding app usage; I'd recommend the SGS3 over the SGS2 big time. While the SGS2 runs your apps just fine, the SGS3 is able to really switch between them easily and browsing with the Chrome Beta is just as fast as on your desktop browser.
The SGS2 sometimes feels sluggish especially with larger websites, multiple tabs or while running other stuff in the background.
Additionally the SGS3's larger screen REALLY works wonders when surfing the web, it requires far less scrolling around than SGS1 or even SGS2.
Software-features such as hovering multimedia player could possibly be backported to the SGS2, and I haven't used them add all yet so I'll not comment on their usefulness.
The SGS2's camera is MP-wise identical to the SGS3's, however the latter has FAR faster reaction times. However in comparisons with CM9's camera-app on SGS2 to the SGS3's stock camera, the SGS2 wins big time in image quality and fidelity. E.g. the SGS3 shows a large aura around a TV-set in a darkened room and the on-screen image is really fuzzy while the SGS2 shows a clear and clean image.
But that could be due to software-limitations; Samsung has never be known for their good software-capabilities, but rather their excellent and usually very endurable hardware.
Screen burn-in could -and most certainly will- be an issue on the SGS3 like on the Note since both use a very similar screen (minus the Wacom digizier).
It simply is a problem with all light sources including CRT screens and even LCD. You just don't see it on LCD's and Beamers because the actual light source is not on a per-pixel base but covers a large area.
However the average screen burn-in is not noticeable in everyday-usage. My (nearly) 2year old heavily-used SGS1 which was used as night-stand clock and showed instant messaging chats for hours has yet to show any important distortions.
Depending on your country and carrier you'll get 2 years warranty; if nothing big has shown by then you got a good unit.
I can't say anything on durability (yet ) but depending on how you use and treat it, that should not be a big issue with any device.
If you don't treat it like a Nokia 3410/3510 but like the 580$ high-end smartphone it is, it will survive. It's gotten Gorilla Glas II afaik, so the screen _SHOULD_ survive most drops.

Thanks for the comments guys, very detailed and helpful posts!
I was wondering if the S2 would be future proof enough but from your comments I guess probably not. I just want a phone that is lag free and does whatever I want it to do (software wise) provided it's not something like computing the 100,000th digit of Pi in 3 seconds.
My hands are of medium size (probably medium-large for Asians), spanning 22cms from my thumb to my pinky. I've yet to find a local store here in UK near where I live with the GSIII in stock so I didn't have the chance to fiddle around with it, but I've held my friend's Galaxy Nexus with a case and it felt quite manageable.
However, I'm sure I won't be able to 1 hand operate the GS3 like I can with my GS1 (oh, the joys of swype!), but that wouldn't be that big of a problem as I don't think I'll risk holding the GS3 and using it 1 handed!

Mine span the equal length, so I'd say you're good to go.
The S2 is as future-proof as it can be for your need. If you're willing to shill out the approx. 100-150Euro for a S3 with a 2year subscription I'd say go for it.
I'm using my S3 one-handed nearly all the time, especially when walking the dog.
So far no issues, however I've ordered a case with extra grip in case my dog tries to hunt some wildlife and I fly/slide behind.
Since my language (luxembourgish) is not Swype-supported (and most certainly never will be), I've come to love Messagease (freeware). Sure, it takes some time to learn but it can be used one-handed with very high accuracy.

Thanks for the help mate.
I really wish the GS3 can actually last me longer than my GS1. I had the prospect of it lasting me for 3-4 years with good performance and it started to lag on the 2nd day when I tried to use a live wallpaper. Hope it's a different story with the GS3...and I'd love to get my hands on the S4+2GB RAM variant if possible (but Hong Kong only seems to be selling the international version).

i had an s2 and when you use the s3 for a few days then go back to the s2 you can tell how much clearer and better the screen looks on the s3 its amazing
movies looks fantastic

I love my s2 but plan to wait for the upcoming nexus devices and see what they have to offer before jumping ship to my next device. While there are differences in the s2 & s3 they are not glaring enough to make me want to switch this very moment. It's going to take more for me to put my gs2 to sleep, much more not slightly more. Google better bring it with the next nexus line of devices or I'll be waiting even longer.
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In one ERA the S2 was a legend,,,, That doesnt mean that now its outdated... When compared to other phones which r single core its far better in performance and screen clarity... S3 is a new one, if u doubt give some months then see the development here and buy s3.... S3 specs r too gud.. But for me S2 gave a gud battery life(~1-2 days), dropped it twice.. And yes the processor burns like hell in S2.. Unless ur using it in cool room.. It all depends on ur taste and budget.... Eagerly waiting for S4 in future.. which may come after 1.5-2 years later

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[Q] Poor Man Hacker: My Adventures with the Viewsonic G-Tablet

Okay, I was going to hold off to pick up a Motorola Xoom within a few weeks but on a whim, I saw the Viewsonic G-Tablet for $299.99 at the local Office Depot. Okay I thought then I could live with its "defective" display and unwieldy weight/shape. For me, it actually resembled the Xoom! At least a less expensive version of it.
Indeed, for me the XDA support for ROM (and hopefully Honeycomb 3.0 port) as well as its Tegra chip were the deciding factors to pick up the GTab this morning.
I will be charging it up later after dinner with my stepdad and then installing Clockwork Mod then a ROM of my choice. I also will be relating my adventures here a poor man's (hacker's) Xoom. And I post that I can regret not getting a Sprint Galaxy Tab. So convince me
More adventures to come... any advice here now?
Yes.
Don't hold your breathe on HoneyComb. And don't post asking where it is
No Honeycreams until full AOSP released from google. 'Nuff said.
I just picked up the G-Tab at lunch today and I have Vegan running now. My first impressions of it are good. It is a little heavier than I thought it would be but I didn't buy it for the weight as much as I did to not have to burn my legs with my old Acer laptop. I see the problems with the screens that everyone complains about but I am finding that if you 1. have it laying flat it is worse and 2. have a black background it looks bad. I plan on using this at an angle and I am glad to be able to use more colors than my Vibrant (black on the phone for battery savings purposes). It is snappy and the wifi antenna is pretty strong. I was able to play my movies that I ripped for the Vibrant and they look great on the screen. I ripped them down at a high level and large screen aspect.
I was like you and debating between the different tablets out there but I think I am going to be happy with this device. The more I read the more I kept coming back to it thinking it was a better device except for the stock software which was easy to replace. I wanted the Samsung 7" tablet when they came out but after seeing this next to it there wasn't any hesitation for me. And for me personally Honeycomb isn't a big selling point. I have been running HC on an SDK emulator and I am not impressed with it enough to spend an extra $200-300.
I hope you like yours, I am happy so far.
I still don't understand this complaint about the weight that I've been seeing all over the internets. It is .22 lb more than the ipad. The ipad weighs 1.33 lb and the gtab weighs 1.55 lb.
If 1.55 lb is too heavy, return it and buy yourself an ipad. Enough said.
As for the galaxy tab it is nice and I prefer the 7" form factor but you have to buy into a contract-no thanks and the galaxy has a single core chip. It costs about $50-85 or in my case $100 more if you are paying Ca tax. The gtab has better specs and better battery life.
The Xoom is over $300 more and as much as I would like to have 3.0 I am not sure it does anything our tabs can't already do. Lets face it we all want hc and in time it will makes its way to this device. Prices are dipping down because a slew of new tabs will be coming out around June or so and I don't think any of them will cost $300!
The screen is pretty nice coming from an elocity a7, now ipad, galaxy have nicer screens and so does the xoom but I really do not see a big problem with this one. I think it looks great. Weight is not a big issue either. It is a poind and a half, we arr not talling heavy. I just wish it was easier to type with my thumbs like my elocity. The devs here have createdvseveral awesome roms that make this device fly. Other than limits of froyo being a phone os this is a great tab. I think I see why apple is so succesful because they only support two devices which means a lot more continuity in the user experience. However, I value freedom and choice so the price you pay is some apps not working. In a year or so when hc has been out and second and third gen hc devices are out the user experience will be very different than now. Thay said the gtab is pretty sweet.
Going to make this review rather short. Just got this tablet this morning at a sweet song price. I went to XDA Developers and followed the directions to get rid of the Tap N Tap interface here at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245 and added Clockwork Mod to allow for custom ROM's on this device. After a tad bit of work eliminating the default interface, then I proceeded to install the Notion Ink Adam ROM found here at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928152 which allows for the Eden interface that runs very smoothly for the most part.
Everything is much better now. The device is a tad bit heavier but it's basically so similar to the Wi-Fi version of the Xoom that in many ways this is a developer's device.
I must recommend this device and I think that I may consider getting a second one because there is no locked bootloader to prevent us from making more ROM. Now it's a matter of waiting for Honeycomb to arrive or maybe even a Xoom port someday!
Mine arrived last Thursday but I was in Vegas for the extended weekend. Ordered it from TigerDirect for $307 shipped. Came home Monday night, kissed the wife and grabbed the gTab and started playing around with it (truth be told she opened it while I was gone and was teasing me about the fact that she was messing with it before I did).
Anyway, I really liked the stock home screen with the icons across the bottom and the weather display, etc. I have an automated home with touch screens around the house, so I was immediately thinking about how I could incorporate several of these around the house for lighting, etc... However, as much as I liked the screen, I found the performance to be not-so-hot.
I followed the instructions for CWM and TnT on Wednesday night and the gTab went from a purchase that I was moderately pleased with to contemplating how long it will be until I purchase a second one . For me, there was a noticeable change in speed.
I have a HTC Evo and was a bit nervous about rooting the phone, but I think I will need to now in order to take advantage of the mobile hotspot.
I think the battery life it ok. I'm currently playing a video on it to see how it eats the battery. I want to be able to use the tablet on flights, and need to know how many movies I can play on it on a single charge. Once I beat it up a little more I will have a better understanding of how much time I will get out of a charge.
I don't own an iPad (I'm just not into the whole Apple thing), but I have to say that I would have no problem showing this off to any of my friends that have iPads. For me, not having to spend $600 plus a data plan was a plus for me. The unit will primarily be used in my house, and when I am out I will be tethering it to my phone so I don't see the need for a unit with a data plan.
I was looking at the Samsung Galaxy, but I felt that the 7" screen was just not enough real estate for me.
Now I need to buy a case and a screen protector for this think before it gets scratched up.
In the end, I am very pleased with my purchase.
GB
Wow, tonight was an experience as I was hanging around the Apple Store (Gateway) and found out that people thought that I was dragging around the Motorola Xoom. That must be a really good mix up. The confusion suggests that people do confuse the Xoom with the GTab.
I will have some comparison pictures later on in this thread.
My G Tablet Experience
I'm new to the tablet thing. I don't own a smartphone so this is the first time I bought a non Windows PC device. $280 on woot seemed a lot better than dropping $600+ bucks on an iPad to see if a tablet would work out well for me.
The first thing that immediately struck me was fingerprints. I know it was going to be inevitable, but I just can't believe how dirty the screen gets after a normal browsing section. Because it's new, I'm always wiping the screen with a microfiber towel to keep it looking clean. I know that there's that Rain-X solution but I'm ordering a screen protector to reduce smudges.
The other thing I found is how awkward it is to hold. Because of the decreased view angles I need to hold it up at a very precise angle. It's too large to hold in one hand and my one hand starts to cramp after a while from holding it up. Using it in portrait mode is a little better since I can grasp it with two hands and just use my thumbs to scroll and navigate. But there are some things I just can't do very well in portrait mode. I just ordered a new case with the integrated kick stand and keyboard which should help propping it up. I'm looking forward to using it as a very capable little netbook.
Other than that, this is a cool little device. I installed Vegan and it seems to do everything I want. I'm still trying to figure out how to get a normal mpg movie to play on it. I must not be using the correct encoding since I select the file in the explorer and the screen just goes black. I do not see any errors, just a black screen. So I need to play around with it some more because I really would like to watch movies on my commute.
This thing definitely holds its own against other tablets twice the price. I'm glad I took the gamble to try it out.
I have a very similar experience.
I am able to play movies encoded in mp4 format. I believe the video comes with the tablet is in mp4 as well.
Tried a couple of avi file that had sound comes through but has gobbled video.
Have not try any quick time mov files yet.
I think fingerprint is unavoidable with touch tablets. My impression of Ipad is the same, gets smodged quick and the screen is also too reflective. Probably just to a lesser degree than the GTablet. Please post back on your screen protector experience.
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I'm still trying to figure out how to get a normal mpg movie to play on it. I must not be using the correct encoding since I select the file in the explorer and the screen just goes black. I do not see any errors, just a black screen. So I need to play around with it some more because I really would like to watch movies on my commute.
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Bingo. I encoded the movie using the "iPad" setting in Handbrake and that created a playable file. I just opened up the file explorer and played the .m4v file right off the thumb drive. I'm loving this mighty tablet a little more every day.
I just bought a second Viewsonic G-Tablet from Office Depot this morning and I am happy as a clam in fact. I took a photo of mine as compared to the svelte iPad 2 at the Gateway Apple Store for benchmark comparison.
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Mega awesomeness/not so awesomeness discussion

OK, I think a lot of you are here from a note or note 2, am I wrong?
I came from a Tmobile note 2. When i saw the original note 2, i was hooked on the big screen phones. People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
Now, onto the specifics of the phone. Yes, I think it is a tiny bit slower that the note 2, but still, in some benchmarks it did even better than the note 2. And my test is, can i download using torrents (which suck the processor and ram) and still listen to skip free music, browse the web and navigate the phone. This champ can.
The screen is awesome. it just hits you its so bright. I would have loved a 1080 but hey...
Battery life is great. Ive got a few extra off brands until the oem's come out (if they ever do) but Ive said this before, If i have a 3,200 and a smaller phone has a 2,000-2,500. When the screens are on, we are evenly matched. But the screen is not always on. So when its off, we are both running the same radios and processors, but i have a bigger battery. People don't realize this.
I don't know about you early adopters, but i just paid 515 US, no tax for mine. I think that's pretty good.
Oh, the stares. I was one of the Note 1 early adopters. I loved all the attention and envy that poured in on all sides, call me shallow, but i loved it. Its been diminishing for a long time now, becayse the note 2 was basically around the same size and it came to all the carriers. The feeling is back in full force now. That's what you get for going up an inch.
The functionality of having a pocket-able big screen phone is amazing. It's a small pocket-able tablet, that also handles my calls and texts. You basically give up one handed use at this point, even though i have big hands, but you gain in every area; typing, watching videos, gaming, surfing, any app....
I'm curious how unpopular this phone actually is.... There is basically zero devs here. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been out for a month...
On a similar note, the lack of the Samsung battery/charger anywhere on the web is pissing me off. I like having the ability to keep batteries charges externally so my phone doesn't have to be tethered to an outlet. You just swap out the batteries and your back at 100%.
Discuss.
mottyengel said:
OK, I think a lot of you are here from a note or note 2, am I wrong?
I came from a Tmobile note 2. When i saw the original note 2, i was hooked on the big screen phones. People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
Now, onto the specifics of the phone. Yes, I think it is a tiny bit slower that the note 2, but still, in some benchmarks it did even better than the note 2. And my test is, can i download using torrents (which suck the processor and ram) and still listen to skip free music, browse the web and navigate the phone. This champ can.
The screen is awesome. it just hits you its so bright. I would have loved a 1080 but hey...
Battery life is great. Ive got a few extra off brands until the oem's come out (if they ever do) but Ive said this before, If i have a 3,200 and a smaller phone has a 2,000-2,500. When the screens are on, we are evenly matched. But the screen is not always on. So when its off, we are both running the same radios and processors, but i have a bigger battery. People don't realize this.
I don't know about you early adopters, but i just paid 515 US, no tax for mine. I think that's pretty good.
Oh, the stares. I was one of the Note 1 early adopters. I loved all the attention and envy that poured in on all sides, call me shallow, but i loved it. Its been diminishing for a long time now, becayse the note 2 was basically around the same size and it came to all the carriers. The feeling is back in full force now. That's what you get for going up an inch.
The functionality of having a pocket-able big screen phone is amazing. It's a small pocket-able tablet, that also handles my calls and texts. You basically give up one handed use at this point, even though i have big hands, but you gain in every area; typing, watching videos, gaming, surfing, any app....
I'm curious how unpopular this phone actually is.... There is basically zero devs here. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been out for a month...
On a similar note, the lack of the Samsung battery/charger anywhere on the web is pissing me off. I like having the ability to keep batteries charges externally so my phone doesn't have to be tethered to an outlet. You just swap out the batteries and your back at 100%.
Discuss.
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I came from the original Note so I can see and feel a big leap in performance. I guess if you came from a Note 2 then you might not notice any difference or maybe expect so much improvement that you think it's slower. Size wise I am very happy with it, friends and family actually didn't even notice that I'm using a Mega. You can only see the big difference if you set them next to each other, most of the time they see my phone from afar and think it's the Note. If strangers ask, I'll just tell them it's a mini tablet that can make calls rather than a huge smartphone.
Development is slow because they are waiting for a kernel to be developed by Philz and/or Chainfire. It's just been 2 weeks since its been available so I won't worry much about developer support. Right now I've just got root and deleted/uninstalled a lot of bloatware and disabled almost all features so my phone runs very fast. Also, using Foldermount I am able to install apps exceeding the internal storage capacity.
I got 2 extra batteries from eBay which are 3500 mah and I'm okay with the battery life so I'm just using one. As for popularity, I think it will be like the original Note where people started to like it when they saw it being used by others since just looking at the specs of it on paper is not as appealing as holding it in your hand and seeing that huge display for videos and games. Lots of other manufacturers are releasing phones over 6 inches and I'm sure it will be the norm next year.
gx3k said:
I came from the original Note so I can see and feel a big leap in performance. I guess if you came from a Note 2 then you might not notice any difference or maybe expect so much improvement that you think it's slower. Size wise I am very happy with it, friends and family actually didn't even notice that I'm using a Mega. You can only see the big difference if you set them next to each other, most of the time they see my phone from afar and think it's the Note. If strangers ask, I'll just tell them it's a mini tablet that can make calls rather than a huge smartphone.
Development is slow because they are waiting for a kernel to be developed by Philz and/or Chainfire. It's just been 2 weeks since its been available so I won't worry much about developer support. Right now I've just got root and deleted/uninstalled a lot of bloatware and disabled almost all features so my phone runs very fast. Also, using Foldermount I am able to install apps exceeding the internal storage capacity.
I got 2 extra batteries from eBay which are 3500 mah and I'm okay with the battery life so I'm just using one. As for popularity, I think it will be like the original Note where people started to like it when they saw it being used by others since just looking at the specs of it on paper is not as appealing as holding it in your hand and seeing that huge display for videos and games. Lots of other manufacturers are releasing phones over 6 inches and I'm sure it will be the norm next year.
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I didn't realize it had only been two weeks. But yeah, same with me i guess. Rooted, got rid of the bloatware, uninstalled some apps. And now i can use the multi wondow manager.
mottyengel said:
People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
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I'm absolutely with you on that one mate. I'm actually hoping the go for the full 7" screen at some point.
I'm currently rocking the Note 2... I have bought a Mega 6.3" for the mrs and I'm waiting to see what the Note 3 will bring. However I think the Note 3 will be around 6" so the largest top spec device is going to be the Xperia X Ultra for some time, so thats what Im planning on going for (despite the limitations of non removable battery an no flash)... I'd love a 6.5 or 7" Note with small bezels, removable battery etc but I just cant see it being an option this year..
I do predict though that next year we will see some genuine top notch 7" convergence devices. Even with the new Xperia X Ultra if they had trimmed the top and bottom bezels they could have almost fitted a 7" screen into the same footprint. It would have to be "marginally" wider of course. Exciting times ahead I think. I know the tech industry moves fast, but its not moving fast enough for me lol
Bold move by Sony though. At least they are genuinely trying, even if they haven't quite hit it on the head yet.
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I'm absolutely with you on that one mate. I'm actually hoping the go for the full 7" screen at some point.
I'm currently rocking the Note 2... I have bought a Mega 6.3" for the mrs and I'm waiting to see what the Note 3 will bring. However I think the Note 3 will be around 6" so the largest top spec device is going to be the Xperia X Ultra for some time, so thats what Im planning on going for (despite the limitations of non removable battery an no flash)... I'd love a 6.5 or 7" Note with small bezels, removable battery etc but I just cant see it being an option this year..
I do predict though that next year we will see some genuine top notch 7" convergence devices. Even with the new Xperia X Ultra if they had trimmed the top and bottom bezels they could have almost fitted a 7" screen into the same footprint. It would have to be "marginally" wider of course. Exciting times ahead I think. I know the tech industry moves fast, but its not moving fast enough for me lol
Bold move by Sony though. At least they are genuinely trying, even if they haven't quite hit it on the head yet.
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I hear what you're saying, and I love the large screens, but that Xperia Ultra looks TOO damn big. I think they crossed the line with that one. I think that 6" is perfect for me, but i'm willing to do the Mega 6.3 because Samsung made it so thin and it looks stylish. But the Xperia Ultra kinda looks like a small brick. lol
This would be an ideal device for me if it only had apt-x support. Samsung build quality, large battery, great display, no Exynos(!!).
I have wireless speaker system at home and I use HS3000 headset a lot when I am commuting.
The difference in sound compared to standard Bluetooth A2DP is noticeable.
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This would be an ideal device for me if it only had apt-x support. Samsung build quality, large battery, great display, no Exynos(!!).
I have wireless speaker system at home and I use HS3000 headset a lot when I am commuting.
The difference in sound compared to standard Bluetooth A2DP is noticeable.
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I thought it has apt X support as mentioned in the Engadget review
Anyway, we use Sonos so it's not a requirement for us.
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I hear what you're saying, and I love the large screens, but that Xperia Ultra looks TOO damn big. I think they crossed the line with that one. I think that 6" is perfect for me, but i'm willing to do the Mega 6.3 because Samsung made it so thin and it looks stylish. But the Xperia Ultra kinda looks like a small brick. lol
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I agree and I'd have been happier with the mega form factor. Lets hope they see fit to outfit it with top specs at a later point.
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I agree and I'd have been happier with the mega form factor. Lets hope they see fit to outfit it with top specs at a later point.
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Here is a video of the Xperia ZU pocket test. I don't think you can walk comfortably with that in your pocket let alone sit or put it in your shirt pocket unlike the Mega. Even the ads for it never show it being put in the pocket, just in bags. The difference in screen size is just 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) which is almost negligible and for that small increase you get a phone that is 2.78 square inches bigger than the Mega plus onscreen buttons that take up to 10 mm of the screen. Also, on screen buttons can be a hassle specially when playing games because they are more prone to tapping.
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Off screen buttons + bigger actual usable screen = better gaming experience
The price of the Xperia ZU is also questionable at the moment.
You can buy 2 Galaxy Mega 6.3s with over £110 left over with the pre-order price tag.
So how's the Mega like in low light? If you're using it in the bedroom at night with lamps turned off? Is it as bad as the Note 10.1 where light bleeds from the edges and blacks are grey?
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The pocket size is not really an issue for me. I wear loose bottoms most of the time at home/gym and don't even put my current phone (note 2) in my pocket while in the car or at work.
I admit the ultra certainly has its shortcomings, and without dismissing the mega 6.3 (I bought one for the mrs and she loves it), there really is noting else with real top end specs with the same real estate.
Give me a mega 6.3 with a 1080p screen and a snapgragon 800 and I'd be all over it. It just doesn't exist yet. While nobody can really say they really "need" all that extra horsepower I "want" it and thats enough for me to pay a premium. The device itself will only cost me £49 upfront on my current contract which is up for renewal.
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So how's the Mega like in low light? If you're using it in the bedroom at night with lamps turned off? Is it as bad as the Note 10.1 where light bleeds from the edges and blacks are grey?
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I'm using it right now in bed with the lights off and I can't see any light bleed on the screen. The blacks will not be as deep as AMOLED but it's very good. I actually like the fact that it's brighter than my original Note under sunlight and darker at night time which is great for the eyes.
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The pocket size is not really an issue for me. I wear loose bottoms most of the time at home/gym and don't even put my current phone (note 2) in my pocket while in the car or at work.
I admit the ultra certainly has its shortcomings, and without dismissing the mega 6.3 (I bought one for the mrs and she loves it), there really is noting else with real top end specs with the same real estate.
Give me a mega 6.3 with a 1080p screen and a snapgragon 800 and I'd be all over it. It just doesn't exist yet. While nobody can really say they really "need" all that extra horsepower I "want" it and thats enough for me to pay a premium.
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I'm sure the Mega you wish for will be available next year. As for now, I'll enjoy the first gen Mega since I usually change my phone every year. Paying over double the price of the Mega for something which is not over double the advantage is not for me.
^^^^^^^^^ Logically your right of course, but been as my contract is up and its a case of having the mega 6.3 free of charge or paying £49 upfront for the Ultra Im not going to sweat it.. If i had to double down in cold hard cash and buy outright it would be a completely different senario.
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^^^^^^^^^ Logically your right of course, but been as my contract is up and its a case of having the mega 6.3 free of charge or paying £49 upfront for the Ultra Im not going to sweat it.. If i had to double down in cold hard cash and buy outright it would be a completely different senario.
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How much do you pay each month and how long is the contact? Are they already offering the Xperia Z Ultra? What network is this?
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I'm using it right now in bed with the lights off and I can't see any light bleed on the screen. The blacks will not be as deep as AMOLED but it's very good. I actually like the fact that it's brighter than my original Note under sunlight and darker at night time which is great for the eyes.
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Thanks... so what you're saying is that at night in bed you can actually make the Mega less bright than the Note2? If that's the case then it's great.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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How much do you pay each month and how long is the contact? Are they already offering the Xperia Z Ultra? What network is this?
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Im with 3 mobile uk. I pay £36 a month for 2000min 5000texts and unlimited data including teathering. Its a 2 year contract. Its been announced they will carry it in Sept. Upfront prices have been rumoured but not confirmed yet. The plan price will stay the same it always does its just the upfront cost that will vary. The £49 upfront sounds about right.
At the end of my contract I usually cancel and take another contract out with the same carrier through quidco the cash back site and get about 100 cash back
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Thanks... so what you're saying is that at night in bed you can actually make the Mega less bright than the Note2? If that's the case then it's great.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Yes. I need an app to get the original Note's brightness down to acceptable levels at night which I don't need with the Mega.
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Im with 3 mobile uk. I pay £36 a month for 2000min 5000texts and unlimited data including teathering. Its a 2 year contract. Its been announced they will carry it in Sept. Upfront prices have been rumoured but not confirmed yet. The plan price will stay the same it always does its just the upfront cost that will vary. The £49 upfront sounds about right.
At the end of my contract I usually cancel and take another contract out with the same carrier through quidco the cash back site and get about 100 cash back
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I see. So the £49 up front is not official, being the most expensive phablet/smartphone at the moment I expect the upfront cost to be higher.
£36 x 24 months + £49 upfront = £913 is not bad if you use most of the included minutes, texts, and data.
I just use an Ovivo SIM which give me 150 minutes, 250 texts, and 500MB data every month for FREE so I just look at the actual cost of the phone.
^^^^^^^^^ The upfront cost is going to be same as a 32gb or 64gb iphone 5.
The ebay link posted on the previous page is inflated. You can order for Expansys for £639 http://www.androidorigin.com/sony-x...se-date-set-to-september-13-priced-at-639-99/
By comparison the 32gig iphone 5 is £599 and the 64gb is £699. But yeah using that rational the xperia Z Ultra upfront cost should be about £150... Three charge £129 upfront for the 32gig iphone.
Theres not that much difference in their price plans...The basic ones (with devices) start about £30, and the unlimited one is £36. I have been known to download torrents and teather my laptop to the phone so its nice just not to have to worry about worrying out of date etc
How's the loudspeaker compared to the Note2? Let's say if you're showing a YouTube clip to someone... which one is louder?
Brgds...
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How's the loudspeaker compared to the Note2? Let's say if you're showing a YouTube clip to someone... which one is louder?
Brgds...
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I don't have a Note 2 to compare it with but I don't have to put the volume to max when showing youtube videos to others with my Mega 6.3.

Thinking of buying this tablet

I currently have an iPad 4 and a Nexus 7. Both of which perform very well and I'm very happy with.
I am looking at this tablet for one reason - Waterproof. I bought a Lifeproof case for my iPad and it turned it into a bulky monster that sucks to use. Mostly because I have a hot tub and like to listen to music and browse the web while in the tub.
I understand that battery life isn't that great, it's not the fastest or best processor, doesn't run the latest Android version and doesn't have the sharpest screen - does this at all become an issue in day to day use?
So, have there been any issues with the waterproofing of this device?
I've done some searching and it's hit and miss on what people think. I find it's a pricey tablet compared to the specs, but like I said, waterproofing is the feature I really life.
Thanks all.
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I currently have an iPad 4 and a Nexus 7. Both of which perform very well and I'm very happy with.
I am looking at this tablet for one reason - Waterproof. I bought a Lifeproof case for my iPad and it turned it into a bulky monster that sucks to use. Mostly because I have a hot tub and like to listen to music and browse the web while in the tub.
I understand that battery life isn't that great, it's not the fastest or best processor, doesn't run the latest Android version and doesn't have the sharpest screen - does this at all become an issue in day to day use?
So, have there been any issues with the waterproofing of this device?
I've done some searching and it's hit and miss on what people think. I find it's a pricey tablet compared to the specs, but like I said, waterproofing is the feature I really life.
Thanks all.
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I think you should not buy it, unless you have lots of money for no good use. The Xperia Tablet Z is a great device. The battery is great. It lasts a whole day for me, including heavy WiFi usages and reading many pdfs. The processor indeed isn't the best, but I rarely have any slowdowns.
The latest Android version isn't much needed on it, and it behaves without a single bug whatsoever. It is coming soon, though... The screen doesn't have the biggest resolution and thus the biggest PPI, but it is really sharp and great. I don't have any problems with it, and the viewing angles are great... It is just a bit too reflexive under direct sunlight, but I use it a lot on low brightness, so that's the reason.
The waterproof is a great feature, and works perfectly, but because of the touchscreen technology (capacitative), it goes crazy with water on it. Dropping water on it makes it think you are touching the screen, and submerging it makes it crazy, as pressure is being applied all the screen.
The speakers are muffy when they have water on it, so unless you hold the device the other way around and does not submerge the other half, you're good. If you are going to use headphones, get some waterproof ones and connect them via Bluetooth, because you can risk both the tablet and the headphones by putting the cables underwater as when the covers are opened they aren't waterproof.
Thanks for the info. it wouldn't be submerged for use, just in my hands in the tub (and it's lighter than an iPad, so that's a bonus). I use my iPad with the case and I know what you mean about going crazy when wet. Every now and then, I just dip it to get some of the puddles off it and that seems to help.
I'd also likely sell the iPad to recover some cost (and the lifeproof case was $130 - ouch).
I've read a ton of reviews and they tend to mirror the issues I mentioned. Did the 4.2 update improve things like wifi reception or any other improvements?
cwepruk said:
Thanks for the info. it wouldn't be submerged for use, just in my hands in the tub (and it's lighter than an iPad, so that's a bonus). I use my iPad with the case and I know what you mean about going crazy when wet. Every now and then, I just dip it to get some of the puddles off it and that seems to help.
I'd also likely sell the iPad to recover some cost (and the lifeproof case was $130 - ouch).
I've read a ton of reviews and they tend to mirror the issues I mentioned. Did the 4.2 update improve things like wifi reception or any other improvements?
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I can't say much about 4.1.2 and any of their issues because I bought the device and it shipped with 4.1.2, but I was in NY for a few days and the hotel's WiFi wasn't good, so couldn't test it. First thing I did when I got home was updating it. But i have no signal problems whatsoever. Mine is a SGP311, if that makes any difference...
I'll just chime in here with the same info that's already been provided by others; battery life in use is decent. I use mine only periodically, but when I use it I rarely pay the battery any attention, and never have had any trouble with WiFi reception. I don't have the biggest house, but I have used it all over the house without any problems. I've also used it outside without any trouble where my mobile phone will not pick up any WiFi signal.
My main gripe with the tablet is that it seems to use quite a bit of battery when I'm not using it. But that is probably caused by something I have installed. Haven't really bothered investigating.
-KJ
I have the same thing on my mind with cwepruk. I'm planning to buy this tab also and have a lot of research with the pros and cons. In fact I have a lot of vids downloaded from youtube about comparisons and reviews. But because of the six months period since its release, I have second thoughts of buying and afraid that maybe in few days/weeks, better tablet is coming. (Sigh) i just don't know....
fjevel said:
I'll just chime in here with the same info that's already been provided by others; battery life in use is decent. I use mine only periodically, but when I use it I rarely pay the battery any attention, and never have had any trouble with WiFi reception. I don't have the biggest house, but I have used it all over the house without any problems. I've also used it outside without any trouble where my mobile phone will not pick up any WiFi signal.
My main gripe with the tablet is that it seems to use quite a bit of battery when I'm not using it. But that is probably caused by something I have installed. Haven't really bothered investigating.
-KJ
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I'm in the same spot as you, new note seems a great deal though just a bit expensive considering I want to buy a new phone in Q1, what about Kindle hdx 8.9?
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tel033 said:
I'm in the same spot as you, new note seems a great deal though just a bit expensive considering I want to buy a new phone in Q1, what about Kindle hdx 8.9?
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I purchased the kindle fire hdx a couple days ago. It has great hardware, feels a bit flimsy, but overall a nice build. The blinding problem is the software. I didnt realize how much I missed not having the Google play store. Sideloading apps works, but its a pain considering how much easier the Google play store is.
Even after I rooted the kindle, it still was not a lot of fun to use.
Anyways, I returned the Kindle and got the Sony Z instead. I'm very happy with the choice. The Sony has a nicer feel and build, the screen is comparable, and the software is superb.
The Kindle is grest if you use Amazons services, otherwise I would go with the Sony.
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tel033 said:
I'm in the same spot as you, new note seems a great deal though just a bit expensive considering I want to buy a new phone in Q1, what about Kindle hdx 8.9?
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Yes I read about that, without prime it's just not a very good choice, and I think amazon prime is 80 dollars a year right?
My problem with z is that it is already a bit old, and do you feel a difference between s80p and s4 pro?
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tel033 said:
Yes I read about that, without prime it's just not a very good choice, and I think amazon prime is 80 dollars a year right?
My problem with z is that it is already a bit old, and do you feel a difference between s80p and s4 pro?
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nope.no difference between s800 and s4 pro.every game plays without lag and there is no noticeable difference.if you can notice 1 millisecond difference on app opening then congrats for your eyes
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nope.no difference between s800 and s4 pro.every game plays without lag and there is no noticeable difference.if you can notice 1 millisecond difference on app opening then congrats for your eyes
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The difference between both is bigger than that, but the S4 Pro works like a champ. Didn't had any problems with it. Putting my XTZ next to my Xperia S with a S3, the difference is huge...
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So I went ahead and bought it. Like I said, the main reason was because it's waterproof and I can use it in the hot tub (browsing, music, etc.).
It was on sale, so $400 instead of the usual $500. IMO, it's about a $350 tablet hardware wise, but it's the only one that is waterproof. The new Android tablets do have better screens and faster processors and some of them are running 4.3. I'm not a big gamer, so I don't really get into pushing the limits on graphics.
That said - after one day of use, I'm pretty happy. Initial thoughts:
Pros -
- Even though it's not the best screen, it's quite good and better then I expected after most reviews.
- Light and thin
- While not the most current hardware, it's definitely respectable. It doesn't feel super fast, but it also never felt slow. It's comparable with my iPad 4.
- Decent battery life. Heavy use this weekend yesterday including streaming audio, browsing, setting everything up, it lasted from Sat night until this (Mon) morning with about 7 hours of on screen time.
Cons
- It's flimsy. I took the first one back because it creaked and the screen would distort and have phantom touches. The replacement was a bit better, but will still have phantom touches if you hold it by the corner.
- Too many notifications from the tablet itself. I don't want to use stamina mode, stop reminding me.
- For all the hype about the camera, it's pretty mediocre - not a big deal for a tablet though.
- No Wireless charging. Would be great and eliminate the need to use that flap over the micro-usb
I've tried other Android tablets, the first Galaxy Tab and the Asus Transformer Infinity and I didn't like either and both had some bugs, so far, not the case with the Sony.
cwepruk said:
So I went ahead and bought it. Like I said, the main reason was because it's waterproof and I can use it in the hot tub (browsing, music, etc.).
It was on sale, so $400 instead of the usual $500. IMO, it's about a $350 tablet hardware wise, but it's the only one that is waterproof. The new Android tablets do have better screens and faster processors and some of them are running 4.3. I'm not a big gamer, so I don't really get into pushing the limits on graphics.
That said - after one day of use, I'm pretty happy. Initial thoughts:
Pros -
- Even though it's not the best screen, it's quite good and better then I expected after most reviews.
- Light and thin
- While not the most current hardware, it's definitely respectable. It doesn't feel super fast, but it also never felt slow. It's comparable with my iPad 4.
- Decent battery life. Heavy use this weekend yesterday including streaming audio, browsing, setting everything up, it lasted from Sat night until this (Mon) morning with about 7 hours of on screen time.
Cons
- It's flimsy. I took the first one back because it creaked and the screen would distort and have phantom touches. The replacement was a bit better, but will still have phantom touches if you hold it by the corner.
- Too many notifications from the tablet itself. I don't want to use stamina mode, stop reminding me.
- For all the hype about the camera, it's pretty mediocre - not a big deal for a tablet though.
- No Wireless charging. Would be great and eliminate the need to use that flap over the micro-usb
I've tried other Android tablets, the first Galaxy Tab and the Asus Transformer Infinity and I didn't like either and both had some bugs, so far, not the case with the Sony.
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The filmsy touch is a software related issue. I've solved mine after a software update in a mn after I bought it.
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I'm on the latest software and it still does it.
how about the front cam? I want to ask because I use skype a lot. What can you say?
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how about the front cam? I want to ask because I use skype a lot. What can you say?
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Dumped the Note 3 after 3 weeks for a G2 and here are my findings.

I was a Note 3 preorder guy. I had the phone for 3 weeks....
AND. I sold it to pick up the new white Verizon G2.
The Note 3 was a HUGE disappointment!
The device feels terrible in the hand, with its sharp edges.
Using it outside when the wind blows it wants to fly out of your hands like a sail,
One handed operation, when your sitting down on the crapper is impossible, you cant make that thumb stretch without dropping it.
Touchwiz is really annoying with all kinds of crap constantly popping up in your face. my magazine, searches, bla bla bla.
The Note 3 is overly bloated and feels slow.
The Spen, its cool for about a week, then the Novelty wears off. and you never use it again. (the Spen DOES make 100% sense on the 10.1 2014 tablet which we have however, just need to ditch the TW.)
The external speaker AND the phone speaker are TERRIBLE on the Note 3. No good volume or clarity, a tinny sound and phone call volume never high enough if you cant hear the other party. Even with all the mods out bump the volume it makes it sound worse.
The USB 3 connecter is huge and ugly and I never noticed any difference.
Samsungs continued KNOX and other locking shenanigans. this should be the #1 reason to stay away.. lol
DEVELOPMENT! Development on the Note 3 due to Samsungs Garbage software is a complete hilarious JOKE.
The VZW section for instance has 3 lousy threads! No LOKI. etc. so no kernels. and the Devs who were working on those 3 threads were just doing it for the Bounty money or as a favor.
I could go on and on with my experience about the Note 3. It was a huge letdown.
After I got the Note 3, I started to see the G2 development community really start heating up, and caught my eye.
I come from an Old Galaxy Nexus, and used PGM/touch control for a knock on type wake and I loved it, once I saw "knock on"
on the G2 as a native feature it really piqued my interest.
I got my white vzw G2 on wednesday and I adore it, everything makes sense!
LG did a wonderful job with the stock rom. (there are a few small tweaks I would like such as better looking folders) but for the most part its
amazing.
The LG optimus UI has most of the features you see on custom roms.
it "feels" extremely light, not bloated or resource killing whatsoever.
**PERFORMANCE!
My G2 boots in 23seconds according to start up manager.
The device overall just feels so much more powerful and snappy.
Disk/File IO KILLS the Note 3, pulling up huge app lists, or in app manager, etc.. is instant.
The Note 3 stuttered and got stupid and would FC its own garbage apps, freeze up, etc.. Where the G2 is soo rock solid.
While, Granted the G2 has the shiny back it feels like a much more "premium" device, than the tacky East Asian style of the fake stitched back cover on the Note 3. The Note 3 fake leather back reminds me of those cheap fixtures in Chinese buffets that try to look "expensive"
Display: G2 hands down. I brought my Note 3 into the verizon store, and put both devices side by side both at 100% brightness in an extremely bright room. G2 colors look better, is clearer and more vibrant without the oversaturation. I swear the lcd panel draws faster than amoled, but idk..
Audio! - The phone speaker sounds great, first call I made I was like WOW! it can get extremely LOUD, but not in a screetchy ear bleeding way, in a full clear juicy big kind of way. External speaker sounds full and crystal clear, while the Note 3 speaker sounds very very tinny..
Audio over Bluetooth sounds much better in the car than the Note 3, again much more clearer and open.
Sorry: I prefer onscreen buttons. arrange the buttons in any configuration that tickles my fancy, I can also shrink down that Nav bar with g2 xposed to 60% from its original size while losing 0 of the functionality. With the Note 3 I was constantly bumping the capacitive buttons. and
the Home button is so heavy you have to slam your thumb on that button like a goon, its silly.
Development: Development on the G2 is smokin'! At this point Why buy a Nexus 5?
The G2 has got to be the easiest phone to root and install recovery on, you get more diverse variety of roms, utilizing LG UI and or hybrids of or straight up AOSP. but all on BETTER hardware and can be had for around the same price.
I can go on and on, But I'm loving the G2, and even the stock rom with tweaks.
The LG G2 This Is The Best Android Handset You Can Buy Right Now.
I know that many of my points could be argued otherwise, but as the dude says.
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I had the Note 3 for a full 30 days before I returned it to Verizon and got the G2 (when VZW was selling it for $450 off-contract). A lot of your opinions on the Note 3 mirror my own; mostly, I was just shocked that a phone with such god-tier specs felt so slow sometimes. And it wasn't slooooow, but it didn't have the instantaneous response in many areas that I would have expected with its hardware. The G2 is smoother, faster, and more responsive. My only disappointment has been in the G2 camera being worse than that of the Note 3, but I don't take a ton of pictures and it's not a huge difference. For hardware that was $250 cheaper, I'd pick the G2 every time.
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I had the Note 3 for a full 30 days before I returned it to Verizon and got the G2 (when VZW was selling it for $450 off-contract). A lot of your opinions on the Note 3 mirror my own; mostly, I was just shocked that a phone with such god-tier specs felt so slow sometimes. And it wasn't slooooow, but it didn't have the instantaneous response in many areas that I would have expected with its hardware. The G2 is smoother, faster, and more responsive. My only disappointment has been in the G2 camera being worse than that of the Note 3, but I don't take a ton of pictures and it's not a huge difference. For hardware that was $250 cheaper, I'd pick the G2 every time.
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Right on, I havent had much time with the G2 Camera yet, Perhaps this weekend I can put it through its paces. I wasnt too impressed with the N3 camera. so we shall see.
Well, I didn't have the 3, but I did have the Note 2. I also had an S4 for a little while but traded back to the Note 2. I got REALLY tired of waiting for Verizon to release the 4.3 upgrade so I put my Note 2 up for trade on Craigslist. (I'm a bit of a CL junkie). I had offers of the HTC One and the new Droid Maxx. I was considering both, but then a guy sent me a text yesterday morning offering a mint LG G2. I jumped all over it. I had read the specs about the speed so I wanted to see for myself. I have to say, this is the baddest smartphone I've ever owned. It is soo fast and responsive. I absolutely love LG's UI. I think it takes the best of all of the other companies UI's and blends them together for the perfect experience. I haven't found a fault about this yet. I haven't used the camera much but from what I read it is awesome. I lost out on a ton of accessories I had for the Note and only got a case in return, but I guess I probably wouldn't have gotten the offer had I not had them... BTW, knock knock is simple, but is the coolest feature ever and I actually like the buttons on the back. I'm so glad I made this trade.
I also had the Note 3 and also sold, got mine on release day, many problems, mainly software, reboots, now I have the LG G2, no probs so far and it feels faster than my Note 3 ever did. My daughter has similar probs but decided to keep hers.
LOL too funny
deathshead said:
I was a Note 3 preorder guy. I had the phone for 3 weeks....
AND. I sold it to pick up the new white Verizon G2.
The Note 3 was a HUGE disappointment!
"One handed operation, when your sitting down on the crapper is impossible, you cant make that thumb stretch without dropping it."
So tell me...does your other hand get paralyzed when your sitting on the crapper?
I'm not saying anything more....
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These threads make me even more happy being a G2 owner!
GizmoKaca said:
These threads make me even more happy being a G2 owner!
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Happy me too
I am amazed how LG is overtaking Sammy. Bearing in mind how much money sammy has and what a big company they are. Recent years, LG is doing a great job with their mobile device, i dont know why more people arent buying their products. Yeah one of the points maybe are the updates, but come on, Optimus UI is a good enough, what else you may need. Lg is incorporating more useful features than the needless one on Samsung devices, isnt that right ?
Maybe you can also look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556652
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I love the g2. Fast and not laggy. The speaker is loud enough and the music sounds awrsome. I love how customizable it is...very happy with this phone
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Actually is not like that, I read somewhere that Sammy and LG has a 3-rd party company which is making their software ( at least the time when the whole skin build was created) now they maybe separated.
Im with ya on being the best phone right now.
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I had the Note 3 for a full 30 days before I returned it to Verizon and got the G2 (when VZW was selling it for $450 off-contract). A lot of your opinions on the Note 3 mirror my own; mostly, I was just shocked that a phone with such god-tier specs felt so slow sometimes. And it wasn't slooooow, but it didn't have the instantaneous response in many areas that I would have expected with its hardware. The G2 is smoother, faster, and more responsive. My only disappointment has been in the G2 camera being worse than that of the Note 3, but I don't take a ton of pictures and it's not a huge difference. For hardware that was $250 cheaper, I'd pick the G2 every time.
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Flash the updated camera from xdabebb 1.2.0 and you won't be disappointed in the camera anymore. Seriously, it's a huge improvement.
bluntman420 said:
Flash the updated camera from xdabebb 1.2.0 and you won't be disappointed in the camera anymore. Seriously, it's a huge improvement.
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Can you point me there please?
Fir3blade said:
Can you point me there please?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548974
I had G2 and now got Note 3. I agree with the post, LG has done fantastic job and I seriously miss the UI and size of G2.
The only reason I have to part with G2 was the voice quality. The voice quality is acceptable if I hold the phone properly, but the slightest change in the direction would make my voice appears as I speaking way far from the phone, for example holding phone between my ear & shoulder. After so many complaints from friends and family about the voice quality, I decided to try another G2 and to my surprise, it also had the same problem. Shown it to LG service centre but they were not ready to accept the problem, instead they were trying to convince me how to hold this phone and I not suppose to keep my phone between my ears and shoulder. I asked them to try Blackberry the same way which they were not even ready to try and hence I gave up.
Hence, unfortunately I had no option but to move to Samsung, Having bitten once, this time I wanted to test call quality before finalizing the purchase so I placed my sim in note 3 and called my brother to check for the sound quality, and he instantly said, "have you changed your phone?", says a lot about the voice quality difference.
In fact, I heard so many complaints in this forum about G2 voice quality which is unfortunate for an excellent phone otherwise. In one of the discussion, someone mentioning an issue with Snapdragon 800 for which Samsung released a patch, was hoping for LG to do the same.
Anyway, I am back to Note 3, not so happy with the size, UI, big icons and stupid SMS logs in call logs (which you can change but it wont remember, fortunately there is an app to fix that), however the sound quality is way much better.

[Q] suppose that you didn't buy Galaxy Alpha yet ... would you buy it now ???

Hi all
suppose that you didn't buy Galaxy Alpha yet ... would you buy it now ???
please explain why for both answers yes/no ....
don't tell me that the battery is too small because I don't care about this thing at all
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I can't see enough support for this phone on the internet especially on xda i love rooting & changing my system & play with my phone :3
please give some attention to my question .......
thanks
Yes.
The reasons :
+Beautiful design and nice feel
+Excellent 8core processor
+No problems in functionality ( no lags, freezes, restarts, shutdowns)
+I like super amoled screens, the blacks are amazing.
+Good camera in day light (not good in low light conditions though)
+I like powerful compact phones.
+ Priced at 300€ in my country ( one of the most top selling smartphones when the priced dropped) , which makes it the top value for money compact smartphone.
As for your needs , there is a problem and you already know it . The support from devs is little so you will not be able to "play" with custom roms.
No
Now that the S6 is out I would probably have gotten that.
The small battery may be a non-issue for you but for most people, it is a real annoyance. So I would chalk up the battery life to be the top reason I would not get this phone if I hadn't.
yes ... this phone is better than eny other phones.....even better than s6 becuse the s6 has a 2k screen and in the games is not that good...alpha is the best i install cm 12.1 that was awesome and in cm 12.1 battry life was verry good much better than ferench android 5.0 i get 54000 antutu and 1.50 free ram but still cm in the nightly ...im going to keep it for next 4 yers .. i love it
maybe. I would go for the s6 if I had the money
is there cyanogenmod support for galaxy alpha !! it is unofficial as i see on the internet :\ ..
what about the performance of the memory (RAM) & the white colour problem with the camera like these photos & the focus speed of the camera??
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6 in the images=iphone 6...
s6 is costs more than the doubled price of alpha in my country
anyone dropped his phone ? .. as in youtube videos , in drop test, this phone fails & break the glass of the screen by the first drop !
ipred said:
Yes.
The reasons :
+Beautiful design and nice feel
+Excellent 8core processor
+No problems in functionality ( no lags, freezes, restarts, shutdowns)
+I like super amoled screens, the blacks are amazing.
+Good camera in day light (not good in low light conditions though)
+I like powerful compact phones.
+ Priced at 300€ in my country ( one of the most top selling smartphones when the priced dropped) , which makes it the top value for money compact smartphone.
As for your needs , there is a problem and you already know it . The support from devs is little so you will not be able to "play" with custom roms.
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this is really the best phone of 2014 in my opinion!
compact and powerfull and no issues
as a minus, only battery but you dont care about
not to forget a big minus for me is that damn gorilla glass 4 display - after 2 weeks of use i saw 3 superficial scratches and i dont know how they appeared.
i use my phone with the ringke fusion case and alone in my pocket...
for me this is a dillema -how the hell gorilla glass 4 get scratched knowing that no heavy materials pocked the phone...
youtube is full of videos with gorilla glass 4 being resistant to scissors, cutter, keys, etc
my old lg g2 was used with keys in my pocket and display is still untouched, not even a microscratch!
and of course that will not be changed on guarantee, i have talked to customer service of the shop.
i should talk with gorillas peoduction service, but i have no hopes.
thanks bro.
anyone would talk about the camera or the memory ?? :'(
camera wasent that good it bad verry bad ....memory was the best 1.530 mb free ram
I buy it now cause it is $250 unlock n new. It is a nice phone for this price. It has metallic edges and removable battery. I use this tiny phone when I go jogging instead of the bigger phone which I also have.
Yes. But only the octacore version. Att one not only dies in 3-4 hours. It lags real bad. If ur in america get the 850m. Best fone I've had. And I've had em all. I do wish there was more development. Tho. But the one Rom we got is great tho
I just got my alpha 2 days ago. Mines the att version, the 850m was $100 more, but for the price it was at its a very good phone, I think the camera is very good, the battery life is ok, but you can turn on power save mode if you're going to be away from a charger, I wish Samsung wouldn't have discontinued the alpha line. It's a very good phone, my favorite part is the metal build and the display, the display is very good even at 720p
chong67 said:
I buy it now cause it is $250 unlock n new. It is a nice phone for this price. It has metallic edges and removable battery. I use this tiny phone when I go jogging instead of the bigger phone which I also have.
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Where for 250? Cheapest I've found is through target (can't post link since new account).
Amazon has em for 250 new
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850a tho
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I'd rather have an s4 than the 850a
genewildersfunnybone said:
Where for 250? Cheapest I've found is through target (can't post link since new account).
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Go find it on fleabay.
If battery is a concern, get another OEM battery for $6.
I love this phone. I dont know why Samsung discount this phone. I wish they make it for every carrier here.
arabicjew420 said:
Yes. But only the octacore version. Att one not only dies in 3-4 hours. It lags real bad. If ur in america get the 850m. Best fone I've had. And I've had em all. I do wish there was more development. Tho. But the one Rom we got is great tho
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Do you use your 850M with ATT? If so, do you have trouble connecting to LTE?
I've just bought my brand new Galaxy Alpha (850F), 330€ (with 23% vat).
It came with Lollipop installed (v5.0.2).
I found it the best choice for this prize target considering the specs and screen size (4,7'' was the limit).
My last device was the heroic Galaxy S - still perfectly working, but 5 years of difference is quite something...
cobola said:
I've just bought my brand new Galaxy Alpha (850F), 330€ (with 23% vat).
It came with Lollipop installed (v5.0.2).
I found it the best choice for this prize target considering the specs and screen size (4,7'' was the limit).
My last device was the heroic Galaxy S - still perfectly working, but 5 years of difference is quite something...
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Haha 5 years, so how does the alpha feel now?
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Without a doubt yes. The only phone i'd switch to is an s6 or ip6.
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Camera is very good but not excellent or great.
Camera is like a Galaxy S5 if S5 is in 12 megapixel mode.
Because Alpha IS the S5 Sensor restricted to 12 megapixels in Firmware. Samsung intentionally held back the Camera to be BELOW quality of S5 ¿!
Note 4 , S6, LG G4 Cameras are a major step up from Alpha but in good light you can get very good results.
If you get a Tempered Glass Screen Protector Alpha is one of the most durable Phones extremely rigid.
I had the Alpha charging on someones Patio and when sliding door was opened the USB Cable metal end into Phone got bent to perfect 90 degree angle ( ouch) with NO damage to Alpha USB Port or Frame etc. Case was a Casemate Naked Tough but it was the metal frame that absorbed the force.
USB Cords still fit snugly.
That is a rugged metal frame !
The Exynos Alphas have the Wolfson Audio Chip which gives a great speakerphone almost as loud as S6 but less distortion so you can hear an Internet Broadcast clearly 20 or 30 feet away in quiet room or quiet Patio etc on Tune In or Iheart and hear what they are saying.
Spare battery for heavy users 3 to 4.5 hours SOT at low brightness per battery charge on one battery.
Very good loud call quality- again Speaker is as loud and full as HTC One Mini (not the big HTC) and on a way different level than S4 S5 etc.
The AT&T Version does not have this
Speaker volume or fullness- AT&T has decent but tinny speaker.
Alpha is very good at $250 to $350
IF you like a smaller rugged phone.
IF you like very high res screens obviously you won't like 720p but I like it.
Agree to get Exynos version faster more efficient CPU and much better Audio.
As discontinued less popular phone not much Development.

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