Question about reactivation? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im going to be switching back to this DROIDX for a week or 2 to make sure everythings smooth and fully operational before I put it up for sale. I have no problem using verizonwireless.com to activate 3g phones, its the 4g ones with sim cards im lost about. Can someone help me out a little here?
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You shouldn't have any trouble. Just make sure you have verizon send you a new lte sim.
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These are only one use sims? That seems stupid and cost ineffective
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Yep. Gsm phones on verizon do to but they don't need the sim for activation like lte phones do. You could call customer service and have them mail one to you so when you're ready to switch back you won't have to wait for it to come in the mail. Then all you have to do is call, tell them you want to switch phones and they'll ask for your meid on the t bolt and the number on the sim card.
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Ugh. This is why I'm going to at&t. I hate this.
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[Q] Switching between LTE phones

If I wanted to switch from one verizon 4G phone to another, do I have to call and switch the ESN/IMEI or will just swapping sim cards be enough?
specter491 said:
If I wanted to switch from one verizon 4G phone to another, do I have to call and switch the ESN/IMEI or will just swapping sim cards be enough?
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Just swap SIMs.
Ive been wondering this. Lets say my phone gets stolen, can I still call verizon and have them lock the phone as stolen or can someone just stick their sim card in and works?
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you can get the phone blacklisted.
con247 said:
you can get the phone blacklisted.
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Sweet. That's what I was worried about.
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it would get black listed but they would have no trouble sticking any GSM network sim in it.
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I don't think verizon has fully transitioned over to black list imei numbers to fully block them from being used on the network.
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[Q] Activating a Thunderbolt on Alltel

I have tried a few times getting this answered, but never actually got an answer. I'm on an Alltel Smart plan, vzw has not engulfed the Alltel stores in our area. I've seen in posts that other members have gotten them to work on other networks, Alltel included, and I was just wondering how the whole process works? I've tried just switching it out with my current plan. The calls and text work, but not the data. Do I have to call vzw to unlock the sim card and that's all, or is there something more to it? I've looked and looked, and all I see is that it's possible, but not how to do it exactly. You can tell me it's possible to travel to the moon, but until you tell me how to build a rocket, I will never get there.
I don't think the data will work with alltel.
You can give Alltel a call and see what they say
The posts here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115840 suggest that it is possible, which I couldn't see why they wouldn't since the CDMA should still work, but I tried it once before and got nothing. I'm just curious if unlocking the SIM card would do it, or what I do have to do to get it to work.
I'm on an Alltel plan and I had no trouble activating the thunderbolt on my plan.
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Did you have data working on it? What did you do to get it working? Was it unlocked, or did that not matter since the SIM is only used by the 4G?
I'm going to have to go in extra early to work and phone it in, since my current phone is dead, and I want to have as much info as possible going into it.
Everything works just fine. The plan has nothing to do with the service you get from your phone. When Verizon bought Alltel they bought their towers as well so everything that worked with Alltel was transferred to Verizon.
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Tried phoning it in, to no avail. They asked for the MEID number. I thought it was the same as the EMEI number but wasn't sure so I played dumb. Got me nowhere since they couldn't find the model number of the TBolt in their system. And since the Desire's Number starts off A100 and the TBolt's starts off HT12, I can't pass it off as a desire? And they seem to be rather persistent on it being an alltel phone...
If your trying to activate this on at&t it will never work. The radio is a totally different band than the Verizon network.
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If your trying to activate this on at&t it will never work. The radio is a totally different band than the Verizon network.
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Alltel and att are 2 different companies
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Alltel and att are 2 different companies
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Thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea..... The desire sim will not work in the t bolt. I don't see how the t bolt could ever work on Alltel without being able to activate it with a sim in it. Call Verizon and talk to them about it. They should be able to transfer your account to Verizon no problem and send you a sim so you can activate the phone.
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If your trying to activate this on at&t it will never work. The radio is a totally different band than the Verizon network.
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Alltel, which you have verified was working on Alltel. They just keep giving me the runaround on activating it since it's not an Alltel phone.
disconnecktie said:
Thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea..... The desire sim will not work in the t bolt. I don't see how the t bolt could ever work on Alltel without being able to activate it with a sim in it. Call Verizon and talk to them about it. They should be able to transfer your account to Verizon no problem and send you a sim so you can activate the phone.
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The desire does not have a sim since it is only 3g capable.
You said earlier that you had your tbolt working on your alltel plan.
I don't want to switch to verizon.
Don't you love how people state that they have done something and do not provide a link or info to backup what they said could be done? People, if you say that you got something to work where others have not. Use a little common courtesy and provide some info. Otherwise you are either misleading or teasing some one for no good reason at all.
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All i did was call Verizon and had my plan from Alltel grandfathered over. How freaking hard is that to do? Is it that hard that a guide is really necessary? He will need a sim for his t bolt and the only way to get one is to have Verizon give him one.
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All i did was call Verizon and had my plan from Alltel grandfathered over. How freaking hard is that to do? Is it that hard that a guide is really necessary? He will need a sim for his t bolt and the only way to get one is to have Verizon give him one.
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You nor anyone ever said that you grandfathered over to vzw. It is not my plan, it is my parents and as they prefer to stay with alltel since they are cheaper, I don't really have that option.
As the post title says, I need to get the phone ACTIVATED on alltel, not grandfathered into a new plan. I've had the phone and text working on it before, I just needed assistance on getting the data to work on it if possible.
Posts here on the boards state that there are tbolts activated on alltel, but none state HOW. And since there is a sim card involved, that is all I'm trying to figure out. Is it possible as others' posts' suggest, or am I just sol until my contract expires in a few months?
I couldn't get the t bolt to activate without the sim. It will show a no sim error on the lockscreen and won't let data through. That is at least what I experienced. I would try talking to reps on Verizon and see what you can do because I bet if you get the right person on the line they will figure something out.
Check this link out https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com:443/#jive-discussion?content=%2Fapi%2Fcore%2Fv2%2Fdiscussions%2F593956
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disconnecktie said:
I couldn't get the t bolt to activate without the sim. It will show a no sim error on the lockscreen and won't let data through. That is at least what I experienced. I would try talking to reps on Verizon and see what you can do because I bet if you get the right person on the line they will figure something out.
Check this link out https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com:443/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/593956
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Thank you. If I can get data to work, it is preferable, and since I was told in the first link I posted that a lot of members here had it, I thought I would try it. But I haven't gotten anywhere with anyone .
That link doesn't seem to work, it's error'ing out on me. I guess I'll just have to settle for call and text for awhile. Thanks tho, and sorry if I came off a bit harsh.
No big deal. The only way I've seen ( I have googled his by the way) is by getting your plan grandfathered over to Verizon.
You can't do everything without the sim in a t bolt.
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Inc 2 to Thunderbolt: VZW Q:

Family member gave me their Thunderbolt, I now have the Incredible 2., which is 3G. I have an unlimited data plan for some time. If I drop my sim into the thunderbolt and activate is it going to wreck my plan and put me on the new tiered system?
No and the sim from the dinc2 is worthless in a thunderbolt. That's a gsm sim. I came to the thunderbolt from the dinc2 and I still have unlimited data
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Maybe call vzw and ask just to be sure but I believe it only applies if you use an upgrade and buy the tbolt from them. Because anyone can buy a phone from anywhere ie(craigslist,ebay,etc) and put it on there lime as long as the ran is clean. But like I said check with them to be safe.
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It shouldn't mess with your plan, but you will need a different sim that will allow you to get the 4G lte network.
Like he said above, the sim you currently have is useless.
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RBarnett09 said:
It shouldn't mess with your plan, but you will need a different sim that will allow you to get the 4G lte network.
Like he said above, the sim you currently have is useless.
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Thanks guys! Where would I find that SIM?
Just walk into Verizon and they should just give you one. They shouldn't really ask any questions, but if they do, just tell them you picked it up used and just need a sim card for it.
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It may cost you $25 to pick one up
And btw you should ROOT The tbolt
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It may cost you $25 to pick one up
And btw you should ROOT The tbolt
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Sims are free for VZW customers. You have to get it from a corporate store or order it though because the licensed retailers will charge for it.
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disconnecktie said:
Sims are free for VZW customers. You have to get it from a corporate store or order it though because the licensed retailers will charge for it.
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It was free without any impact on my current plan
shaels said:
It was free without any impact on my current plan
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Awesome. Glad it worked out for you.
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[Q] value with bad esn?

Long story short I have a white 16gb i605 with a small chip on the screen below the home button which is covered by the rubber case. It has an unpaid bill with Verizon. The stylus is missing.
It had the box and paperwork and charger and case with holster.
I use it through tmobile and I don't think it can be activated through Verizon due to the bill. I never tried.
I am going to get a bigger tablet and smaller phone. I tried this thinking it could combine two devices but really it has only replaced the phone and some of the stuffi use the tablet for so I'd rather just go back to small phone and big tablet.
I was just curious what is worth so I know what to sell it for.
Put it on ebay, its only worth what somebody will pay for it.
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I would be surprised if anyone wanted that thing. Sounds quite useless as you have no spen(big feature) and an unpaid bill. You better post all that info if you sell it. Don't be a jerk off
Lastly, if it is a t mobile phone, then why post this on a section where you don't think it can be activated? Why not post in t mobile?
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hopesrequiem said:
I would be surprised if anyone wanted that thing. Sounds quite useless as you have no spen(big feature) and an unpaid bill. You better post all that info if you sell it. Don't be a jerk off
Lastly, if it is a t mobile phone, then why post this on a section where you don't think it can be activated? Why not post in t mobile?
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It is a verizon phone. *I* use it with t-mobile. I was under the impression that s-pens were cheaper than new phones.
I would not try to sell it as a clean esn phone which is why I am trying to get a realistic value as it is.
BTW Its far from useless. I can use talkatone and use it as a voip phone, put a tmobile sim in and use it as a t-mobile phone, put in an at&t sim and use it as a AT&T phone or connect to wifi and have a great little wifi toy.
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It is a verizon phone. *I* use it with t-mobile. I was under the impression that s-pens were cheaper than new phones.
I would not try to sell it as a clean esn phone which is why I am trying to get a realistic value as it is.
BTW Its far from useless. I can use talkatone and use it as a voip phone, put a tmobile sim in and use it as a t-mobile phone, put in an at&t sim and use it as a AT&T phone or connect to wifi and have a great little wifi toy.
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Yeah sorry if I came off mean. Didn't mean to. Just want to make sure you are up front with the person about it. That's all
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I bought my i605 off of craigslist from somebody who had an unpaid bill, with plans of letting the bill go to collections. This was about 3 months ago and I have not had any issues. I am pretty sure that unpaid balances are tied to the sim card and not the phones esn.
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I sold my bad ESN completely shattered screen S3 on eBay 3 months ago for $270. I was also honest about the ESN and condition of the phone.
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Jaydizz said:
I bought my i605 off of craigslist from somebody who had an unpaid bill, with plans of letting the bill go to collections. This was about 3 months ago and I have not had any issues. I am pretty sure that unpaid balances are tied to the sim card and not the phones esn.
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Pretty sure this is correct. You can look up countless videos on YouTube about this very issue. They usually just pop a new Sim in and its all good to go.
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These days bad ESN Verizon 4G phones are worth almost as much as clean ESN ones. You can always use an activated Verizon 4G sim in a verizon phone regardless of ESN status. If you go through Verizon for activation they will not activate it, but basically they can't stop you from using the hardware like the old days of 3G/pure CDMA hardware.
Good luck with your sale. If I were you I'd price it about $250 and it should sell like hotcakes.
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eakeller said:
These days bad ESN Verizon 4G phones are worth almost as much as clean ESN ones. You can always use an activated Verizon 4G sim in a verizon phone regardless of ESN status. If you go through Verizon for activation they will not activate it, but basically they can't stop you from using the hardware like the old days of 3G/pure CDMA hardware.
Good luck with your sale. If I were you I'd price it about $250 and it should sell like hotcakes.
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So if I buy a phone with a bad ESN, can I just pop my sim in there and it will work fine?
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So if I buy a phone with a bad ESN, can I just pop my sim in there and it will work fine?
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Yes, I've done it and know several others who have as well. Bad ESN confirmed by Verizon CS, yet worked fine with my active sim.
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justinisloco said:
So if I buy a phone with a bad ESN, can I just pop my sim in there and it will work fine?
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I've set up 2 or 3 phones for friends by getting bad ESN examples from craigslist and using an existing VZW SIM with no problems, so I just wanted to chime in with an additional thumbs up.

Straighttalk

Someone please tell me how to make my rezound work on straighttalk
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What's the status of your rezound?
Like is it rooted s on/s off pure stock or what
Also straight talk gsm or CDMA
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Pure stock from the store.. Up to date with all updates
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leozdad said:
Pure stock from the store.. Up to date with all updates
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What Straight Talk option... CDMA or GSM, the procedure is very different and of varying degree of difficulty...
CDMA (Verizon/Sprint) - need a donor ST phone, and clone the ESN/MEID, plus tweaks in the radio settings. Unlocked or S-OFF and root required, 3G data possible, no 4G
GSM (AT&T/T-Mobile) - Edge (2G, around ~220kb/s) data possible out of box with no changes to phone except change radio mode and add APN setting. 3G/4G possible on AT&T only with pretty in depth modification of radio settings and some prop.build file edits, this is still in the works for a walk-thru, this also would require an unlocked bootloader or S-OFF and root.
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Pure stock from the store.. Up to date with all updates
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if you want i can guide you on how to get straight talk working via a sim card and get 3g and very soon to come 4g....i too use straight talk and am developing on enabling 4g for all carriers....if you go with a sim there is a very certain sim card you have to get
@REV3NT3CH are you making a guide for it? It's going to cost me over $500 to switch to my own Verizon contract so I may switch to ST until I save up enough money.
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@REV3NT3CH are you making a guide for it? It's going to cost me over $500 to switch to my own Verizon contract so I may switch to ST until I save up enough money.
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with the sim card method?
It'll be on Verizon towers so...? In not really sure.
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tmanschuette said:
It'll be on Verizon towers so...? In not really sure.
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The method to move it to Straight Talk w/Verizon towers is the relatively the same as moving a Rezound to PagePlus, follow that tutorial except substitute a Straight Talk 3G smartphone (instead of a PP phone) as a donor and program the Rezound accordingly.
If AT&T has service in your area and you are not comfortable with the heavy modifications required to do that, I would recommend moving to GSM service... get a Straight Talk AT&T GSM SIM and go from there. AT&T is recommended over T-Mobile as the frequecies used for higher speed data on T-Mobile are not compatible with the Rezzy.
Why is it going to cost you $500 to get out of your current contract? Honestly, unless because of service coverage you are forced to Verizon, drop them completely... A good GSM smartphone with HSPA+ can be had for well under $150 used, a new Nexus 5 will set you back $350, and a Straight Talk/AIO Wireless/AT&T Go Phone SIM card will run you $45-$60 per month, saving $40-$60 per month, easily paying for the phone in a just a few months.
Well I'm getting off my parents line and getting my own. Considering my lack of credit, Verizon is going to charge $400 for a security deposit, along with the first months bill. If I want to buy a phone that is on there too ($199 but I'll get $100 back). I have considered a gsm company, but up here in the mountains, Verizon is basically monopoly. All the other carrier's coverage is hit and miss.
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tmanschuette said:
Well I'm getting off my parents line and getting my own. Considering my lack of credit, Verizon is going to charge $400 for a security deposit, along with the first months bill. If I want to buy a phone that is on there too ($199 but I'll get $100 back). I have considered a gsm company, but up here in the mountains, Verizon is basically monopoly. All the other carrier's coverage is hit and miss.
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Actually, for that kind of money I would look at some of the ZTE, LG, or Samsung phones that Straight Talk has that are CDMA (Verizon) based, for under $200 you can get ST phone that will just work (sometimes using Verizon ST on a flashed phone isn't the most reliable for all services) with Jellybean. ZTE are not the best phones, but they are not crap either, a friend has the ZTE Solar and loves it... Plus you will still save $50/month over a traditional VZW plan.
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We just don't have many choices here at our Walmart. I think the beat phone I've seen for ST that would work here is the S3
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tmanschuette said:
We just don't have many choices here at our Walmart. I think the beat phone I've seen for ST that would work here is the S3
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The S3 is nice, but at $399 its a little steep, although you might be able to get one on eBay for around $320 or so. The ZTE Solar is $179 online, 4.5" display, dual core 1.2ghz, 768MB ram, and JB 4.1. Not super impressive, but acceptable.
EDIT: Nevermind... it seems the Straight Talk ZTE phones are all GSM, not Verizon based, it has a SIM card when I looked at my friends this morning. Guess I was barking up the wrong tree the whole time. :/
No problem, I appreciate the input! I wish st would get the S4 already
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Just curious as to which sim do we need for att?
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Just curious as to which sim do we need for att?
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Which SIM?
Straight Talk AT&T standard sized SIM. http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/bpd...E=13837697&productVariantExtensionId=17638661
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Which SIM?
Straight Talk AT&T standard sized SIM. http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/bpd...E=13837697&productVariantExtensionId=17638661
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Well i got the byop activation kit, it has 2 att sims in, one is the nano sim which fits but the connections r differant than my vzw sim and the other is the micro sim which connections r the same but had to make an adapter, im using the micro now and i got calls, data, text and mms. Just looking to maybe get 3g.
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Well i got the byop activation kit, it has 2 att sims in, one is the nano sim which fits but the connections r differant than my vzw sim and the other is the micro sim which connections r the same but had to make an adapter, im using the micro now and i got calls, data, text and mms. Just looking to maybe get 3g.
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Ah... gotcha... Out of the box you will only get Edge, the radios in the Rezound are not tuned for US GSM frequencies.
HSPA(+) is possible in some instances with significant tweaks to the build.prop file and radio NV settings, not a procedure to be taken lightly... And the signal has to be really good or it won't work... I mean REALLY good... This is @REV3NT3CH area of expertise, I'll tag him and hopefully he can be of assistance.
I been reading up on it but there are so many post I get lost in the shuffle, lol Im just trying to make sure I'm using the right sim before I go locking the boot loader and flashing to stock, but hey thanks for the quick replays, much appreciated.
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I been reading up on it but there are so many post I get lost in the shuffle, lol Im just trying to make sure I'm using the right sim before I go locking the boot loader and flashing to stock, but hey thanks for the quick replays, much appreciated.
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Ok... Just for your info, nano, micro, mini, or standard SIMs are electrically identical, just the physical size is different.
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