If we go ahead and HTC Dev Unlock, and then the lte gets s=off, will we be able to either flash everything completely back to stock and get s=off, or will we be able to just achieve s=off using the the method and write over the htc dev unlock?
The question of whether we can undo HTCDev unlocking isn't really an issue, it will almost certainly be done and figured out by the time / if somebody figures out a true S-OFF method. The only real sticking point with HTCDev for most people is the fact that your phone's serial number gets recorded (and your bootloader says "relocked" if you do revert but that's something that will probably be fixed eventually).
But in the end, who knows what the future will bring? You can already RUU back to stock in every sense except the bootloader label.
My guess is somebody will get their hands on an engineering hboot sooner or later and this will all get sorted out.
My only worry is for Sprint's TEP, but I also did read somewhere that they are taking in rooted devices, so I'm guessing it shouldn't be an issue anyway?
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My only worry is for Sprint's TEP, but I also did read somewhere that they are taking in rooted devices, so I'm guessing it shouldn't be an issue anyway?
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Sprint couldnt care less if you rooted your device. As long as you take it back to stock before you bring it in they usually dont care at all...
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I just got my Evo 3d. I had a 4g and gave that to my wife when she lost her phone. I had the 4g rooted and was running Vaelpak and loved it. I would love to root the 3d if for nothing else but to tether. As I have been able to find, the only root method for the 3d with the 1.5 H-Boot, is using the HTC method which cannot be completely undone. that is it sets a flag so that if I were to have problems and send the phone in, they would know I rooted. I have not been able to find a root method that is completely reversible. Is that right? Is anyone working on a way to root that can be reversed completely?
Bob
it unlocks the bootloader and displays "unlocked"
on the bottom of the HTCDev method it tells you how to re-lock the bootloader.
just one command in fastboot...
However, they know you rooted the instant you sign up for htcdev... so, your mileage may vary..
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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is there a way to get the HTC tool without signing up? Or is someone working on a way that doesn't' require signing up with HTC? I don't want to loose the warranty if someone is working on a better way. But if the community is happy with the HTC way and not working on another, I may go ahead and do this. But the phone is less than a week old so I am not quite ready to loose the warranty.
Bob
mildlydisturbed said:
it unlocks the bootloader and displays "unlocked"
on the bottom of the HTCDev method it tells you how to re-lock the bootloader.
just one command in fastboot...
However, they know you rooted the instant you sign up for htcdev... so, your mileage may vary..
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also, importantly, the phrase "unlocked" will change to "relocked" on the device further providing a very easy indicator to any repair tech the device was unlocked at some point in time.
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is there a way to get the HTC tool without signing up? Or is someone working on a way that doesn't' require signing up with HTC? I don't want to loose the warranty if someone is working on a better way. But if the community is happy with the HTC way and not working on another, I may go ahead and do this. But the phone is less than a week old so I am not quite ready to loose the warranty.
Bob
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Haven't seen any public statements from AlphaRevX indicating they are working on or are planning on working on a method for hboot 1.5.
The previous methods they used were patched in software 2.08 and hboot 1.5 release.
I don't doubt their capable of achieving the same results with hboot 1.5 but I have a hard time seeing this as a high priority for them as the process is very complex and difficult. In addition, the manufacturer has released a method which is good, not great, but good and much better than the alternative previously available of nothing.
Hope that helps!
Thanks. I do want to root but not sure I want to loose warranty less than a month after buying. I do not overclock so I am not worried about that. I will probably root soon, but knowing that there is no way to go completely stock once I have done it, gives me pause.
Bob
So I am on the fence on this one. Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
Looking at the development section I also don't see anything that would make me jump off stock right now and not sure if that will change in the future.
Anyone else contemplating keeping it stock? I did notice you can always go back to GB from HC and then root but it would require you to use HTC unlocker. My question is, if you use HTC's unlocker can you still achieve S-OFF and load Roms, Radios, and Kernels from CWM or will it be like the EVO 3D fiasco?
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So I am on the fence on this one. Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
Looking at the development section I also don't see anything that would make me jump off stock right now and not sure if that will change in the future.
Anyone else contemplating keeping it stock? I did notice you can always go back to GB from HC and then root but it would require you to use HTC unlocker. My question is, if you use HTC's unlocker can you still achieve S-OFF and load Roms, Radios, and Kernels from CWM or will it be like the EVO 3D fiasco?
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Nevermind please ignore. My post below is about Flyer and OP was asking about View. Not sure what to do about view
Not accurate. You do not need to unlock to get to HC or get back from HC to GB.
1) GB to HC: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358758
2) Back to GB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428104
After following instructions on second link, you are back to GB, but you are S-OFF. To go back to S-ON Follow this guide => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346200
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So I am on the fence on this one. Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
Looking at the development section I also don't see anything that would make me jump off stock right now and not sure if that will change in the future.
Anyone else contemplating keeping it stock? I did notice you can always go back to GB from HC and then root but it would require you to use HTC unlocker. My question is, if you use HTC's unlocker can you still achieve S-OFF and load Roms, Radios, and Kernels from CWM or will it be like the EVO 3D fiasco?
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I went about this in just about the wrong-est way possible by getting the OTA Honeycomb update before doing anything. I used the HC to GB downgrade process described in the dev forum (which requires the HTC unlock as a first step), then got S-OFF using globatron's other thread, both of which worked with little drama.
I've had no trouble flashing ROM's through CWM but haven't tried anything else (is the HC kernel source for the View even available yet?). In short, I have no regrets, but I bought the View to play with so YMMV.
I think the main thing I am looking forward to with this purchase is the rooting and the unlockable bootloader. If I decide to keep it, that will be the first thing I'm doing
I am going to stay Stock. It's a very good device as Stock and there is no need to put on a ROM as far as I am concerned.
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Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
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You shouldn't return the product because you screwed up trying to modify it... this is the reason why locked bootloaders exist!
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You shouldn't return the product because you screwed up trying to modify it... this is the reason why locked bootloaders exist!
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Thanks buddy, I don't need a lesson from you as to why locked bootloaders exist. I have owned over 10 smartphones in my day and have unlocked / rooted all of them with no problems. But you best be sure if I mess something up within my return period it is going back like everyone else here would do including you Mr high almighty.
Also, when Dev's work on an un-root method a lot of times they will brick a device and need to return it for another one. So will you purchase them another device so they can do you a favor and unlock your bootloader for you? I don't think so.
So after doing some research, I am thinking of rooting it but just leaving GB on it. I have seen people complain about some compatibility issues with some apps as well as the on screen buttons taking up to much screen real estate. I don't really see an advantage to going to honeycomb.
Another question, is there a way to re-root the phone back to stock after it is unrooted? If ICS comes to town, I would probably want to grab the official update...
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You shouldn't return the product because you screwed up trying to modify it... this is the reason why locked bootloaders exist!
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Excuse me if I do not feel bad for the multi billion dollar corps if a couple busted failed modded devices return, which in most cases they fix in seconds are sell refurbished
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Another question, is there a way to re-root the phone back to stock after it is unrooted? If ICS comes to town, I would probably want to grab the official update...
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Why? A rooted version of the official ICS update (if one every happens) would likely show up right after the official OTAs hit the airwaves. If not leaked earlier even.
Someone on youtube is selling a htc rezound with S-OFF and locked bootloader. IDK if this would be helpful to devs for development purposes. He says he will be selling it on Swappa or he is willing to Trade for a phone of equal value.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P060aKs0fZ4
Is there any devs right now with a S-Off rezound?
There are a few devs that have s-off phones. But at this point and time I really think that no one cares about S-off anymore w/ the dev unlock.
yea the ones with s-off devices said it didnt really help with getting s-off for others anyways
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There are a few devs that have s-off phones. But at this point and time I really think that no one cares about S-off anymore w/ the dev unlock.
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yea the ones with s-off devices said it didnt really help with getting s-off for others anyways
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Well I guess this thread was useless, I thought none of the devs had s-off. So do we actually need s-off or no?
You can do pretty much everything shy of flashing a radio w/ HTC DEV unlock.
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You can do pretty much everything shy of flashing a radio w/ HTC DEV unlock.
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Except revert 100% back to stock.
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Except revert 100% back to stock.
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Hmm.. that makes me curious. I returned my first Rezound for overheating; in doing so, i wiped everything, went back to GB, relocked, and then reflashed the offical RUU. What exactly was no longer stock about it? Yes, my phone said "relocked" instead of locked, but if that is all, i think we are pulling at strings there...
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Hmm.. that makes me curious. I returned my first Rezound for overheating; in doing so, i wiped everything, went back to GB, relocked, and then reflashed the offical RUU. What exactly was no longer stock about it? Yes, my phone said "relocked" instead of locked, but if that is all, i think we are pulling at strings there...
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Indeed. From what I understand, you'd have to revert the phone back to S-ON in order to return it to Verizon essentially "unscathed," otherwise you'd have to hope that the salesperson you return the phone to knows not to look for the "relocked" status. Having recently interacted with said staff, I'm quite confident in saying that unless they've been directed to specifically check, they're not going to go through the pains of checking for a relocked status.
That's the gamble you take for playing with Android development. Right now, most reports indicate a good track record for servicing unlocked phones. But their liability is certainly limited in the verbiage they provided, and that can change at any time.
Just worth mentioning that one should be aware that they are taking matters into their own hands, with the unlock method available to us.
Finding an S-OFF exploit isn't without its own risks, of course, but on platforms that have found the exploit, reverting to 100% stock is fairly easy.
So Verizon reps won't take my phone if its re locked?
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I won't be mad if that's the case but if the rep don't even put the phone in boot loader to see if its Ben relocked then they will just pass it along lol that's cool.
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Except revert 100% back to stock.
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I'm pretty sure the return warehouse doesn't even bother to check phones. All they do is connect it and run the program which reverts everything to 100% stock. I believe it even relocks the bootloader and shows "locked" as opposed to "relocked" I mean hell Verizon goes through too many phones to simply give a damn.
And thus the reason for the return rate of refurbished being so high.
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Hi xda community,
I was wondering, given I cannot find any straightforward thread about this, I decided to create one. If you know if any, please feel free to point me there.
Long story short, my HTC EVO 3D was unlocked and rooted (4ext) S-ON with LeeDrOiD, and all was working smooth. Unfortunately, it started having this strange issue that if I pushed close to the antenna/camera it would turn off, and would turn on just after some time.
Sent it for repair after flashing back the original rom and relocking, got it back with another motherboard.
Now, HTCDEV unlock code won't unlock it any longer, and HTCDEV support are just a bunch of retards who have no idea what a smartphone looks like (and I really can't say I got patience with callcenters that just bounce you back and forth with emails that carry nothing but air).
I got the ICS upgrade then when it came out, although I must say I really wasn't that much eager about it, but it was so annoying that I let it go through. I find it to be very bugged in a lot of departments and very unstable, and was wondering if in the meanwhile someone had found another way to unlock this device aside using the HTCdev site (so I might try King Cobra's or some other ICS cooked roms).
Any guesses? Personally, I have to say, I'm guessing I'm never gonna get another HTC in my entire life. I had HTC from the Diamond 1 phone, but this stupid policy they have now really ticked me off, and to "ensure unlock" but to deny it in such childish ways definetly isn't something I expect from an Enterprise such as them. Guess SAMSUNG, or NOKIA with WM8 will serve my needs better...
For the time being though, if anyone of you guys had any insight...
HBOOT is 1.53.0007
S-ON
Stock Rom and all the Jazz
(obv locked ).
Thank you very much!
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Sent it for repair after flashing back the original rom and relocking, got it back with another motherboard.
Now, HTCDEV unlock code won't unlock it any longer, and HTCDEV support are just a bunch of retards who have no idea what a smartphone looks like (and I really can't say I got patience with callcenters that just bounce you back and forth with emails that carry nothing but air).
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Offcourse it won't unlock with the same code... you basically got a whole new device. follow all the steps on the htcdev site again and you'll be unlocked.
I find the customer service of htc to be just fine.
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Offcourse it won't unlock with the same code... you basically got a whole new device. follow all the steps on the htcdev site again and you'll be unlocked.
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I obviously used another code generated from HTCdev website...
Just to hint you... It does happen EVERYTIME they change your motherboard (and the HTC support is full of retards).
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Hey all!
I want to send my phone back to HTC for some warranty work (warranty expires within the week so I need to get this done asap). I'm having some call quality issues as well as network issues (limited 4G when my wife's LTEvo is better). Anyway, I'm trying to get it back to stock and unrooted.
I found videos by QBKing77. From his videos, it looks like I'm supposed to lock the bootloader and then unroot the phone. When he shows the bootloader screen, his shows tampered and unlocked. The lock bootloader video is then supposed to make it say relocked and tampered and then the unroot will take away the tampered notice. The thing is, I don't see those on mine. I know my phone is rooted, is it possible I didn't unlock the bootloader? If so, is there a way for me to check?
Basically, I'm looking for the best way for me to relock my phone and have it good enough that nothing looks like I'm violating any warranty. I've seen things about RUUs, but there are different versions it seems. I'm just not sure where to begin or what I need for my phone. I did not unroot via HTC's website or anything like that. But I did it all about a year ago, so I'm not exactly sure what I did.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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FinZ28 said:
Viperboy has a tool that you can use to return your phone to a completely stock, locked state. You must be S-off in order to use it, but if you're concerned about sending in your phone that's obviously been tampered with, it's the best way to go, in my opinion. The link to his tool is below. Also, this type of post would normally go in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
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Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
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Thank you very much. I'll look into this. Does this take my phone from S-off to S-on when it's done? If not, do I need to do that myself or does Sprint and/or HTC not care about that?
If they fix my problem, will I be able to root my phone again after this? Not a necessity, but I'm curious.
Oh, and thanks for being kind when I posted in the wrong section. If a moderator can move it, that'd be great. Sorry.
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Yes, if you use the tool it will revert your phone to S-on.
As far as whether or not Sprint or HTC cares is almost anybody's guess. I've seen people say they don't care, and others say that they do. Just to be safe go back completely stock. You can always root it again once you get it back
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Yes it will take the s-off flag to s-on, you will be back to stock, updated to 3.16, after that if it gets fixed/repaired you should be able to get s-off with moonshine / facepalm / dirty racun whichever it's easier for you...
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Thank you both very much! This sounds like exactly what I was looking for. I'll give it a shot and see if I'm still having the issues I'm having. If I am, I'll send it back. We send my wife's phone back to HTC once (never rooted) and they were pretty easy to work with. Just cost us about $8 in shipping or something like that.
I am honest with Sprint employees about my phone being rooted whenever I have an issue. They never seem to mind, they just can't always be as certain if the problem is their problem or something from me messing with it...and I understand that. I usually test with my wife's phone and see if I have the same problem or not. Anyway, for what it's worth, Sprint has always been good to me as far as my phone being rooted, but I wasn't asking for warranty work at those times.