4G icon still showing during WiFi - Motorola Droid RAZR

Just bought the Razr Maxx and I noticed the 3G/4G icon is still present in the status bar when I connect to wifi. It has disappeared when connecting to wifi with all of my other phones in the past.
Am I really connected to the mobile network at the same time as wifi or is this just a display bug?
When I am connected to wifi the 3G/4G icon turns to white. When wifi is off and I'm connected to the mobile network it turns blue.

Blue just tells you what data source your using, if the Wifi is in blue it means you're using Wifi, if the 3G/4G is blue it means you're using that for your data.
I've been having an issue lately where both the Wifi and 3G/4G are blue though and hvaen't quite figured that one out yet.

One of the battery saving tips I used on my old Bionic which I carried over to my RAZR is to create a smart action to turn off the 3G/4G radio whenever I am connected to my work or home WiFi. I know blue tells you what is your active data connection, but the 3G/4G radios still use battery even when gray.
With that one smart action I could easily get a day of use on my Bionic without any issue. Without the action I needed an afternoon charge.

wingdo said:
One of the battery saving tips I used on my old Bionic which I carried over to my RAZR is to create a smart action to turn off the 3G/4G radio whenever I am connected to my work or home WiFi. I know blue tells you what is your active data connection, but the 3G/4G radios still use battery even when gray.
With that one smart action I could easily get a day of use on my Bionic without any issue. Without the action I needed an afternoon charge.
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Thanks. I'm going to have to learn how to use the smart action feature.

Seihaku said:
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I've been having an issue lately where both the Wifi and 3G/4G are blue though and hvaen't quite figured that one out yet.
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Me too, mine has always done this.

It seems like an odd glitch, the Razr has some of the better radios on Verizon but still has some issues apparently.
I just used wingdo's tactic and added a Trigger - Wifi Connection, Action - Cellular Data (Disable) to Smart Actions, works pretty flawlessly and does seem to do a good job conserving battery life.

Seihaku said:
It seems like an odd glitch, the Razr has some of the better radios on Verizon but still has some issues apparently.
I just used wingdo's tactic and added a Trigger - Wifi Connection, Action - Cellular Data (Disable) to Smart Actions, works pretty flawlessly and does seem to do a good job conserving battery life.
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Just added that Smart Action. So far so good!

wingdo said:
One of the battery saving tips I used on my old Bionic which I carried over to my RAZR is to create a smart action to turn off the 3G/4G radio whenever I am connected to my work or home WiFi. I know blue tells you what is your active data connection, but the 3G/4G radios still use battery even when gray.
With that one smart action I could easily get a day of use on my Bionic without any issue. Without the action I needed an afternoon charge.
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Thats what I been doing! Just go to my data monitor, shut mobile data off, and voila... no more 3g icon, and... it saves battery. I think its a good thing the icon is still there even when connected to wifi as it reminds me to shut off my mobile data to conserve my precious battery life.

DontCome2MyHouse said:
Just added that Smart Action. So far so good!
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And how do you make it ignore "not usable" wifis?
For example, in airports, where there is no WEP/WPA password - you're ON wifi, but without authentication, you don't have access to external data.

It gives you a list of SSIDs, you select the ones you usually use and it will only shut off your Mobile Data when you're connected to one of them.

It seems like Google has taken some simple basic things in Android that made intuitive sense and made them more complicated or hidden, and this appears to be no exception.
I just bought a Maxx and updated to Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0.4), and both the Wifi and 4G icons are blue... I've never seen them any other color, in fact. I had to go into Wifi settings and disable mobile data to get the 4G icon to disappear... I have no idea if it was actually using 4G, but the point of connecting to Wifi is to prevent my limited data plan from being used.

Just so you know, turning off mobile data when connected to wifi will stop you from receiving any MMS messages.

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[ISSUE] How to prefer Wi-Fi to 3G

I have a HTC Fuze. The last few ROMS that i have been using (Energy, RRE, Tael), all the Apps always use the 3G internet to do their work even if a much faster Wifi is connected. Is there any way to make all apps(including things like email) globally prefer the Wifi when available? Also I dont want to have to keep changing settings to do this, It simply needs to be "If Wifi available use it, else use 3G"
Thanks in advance.
What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network. If anyone knows a better way, please let us know
no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
redskilldough said:
What i did was to go to start>settings>connections>advanced>select networks and change the default connection to the internet to "My work network", rather than my 3G network. This way, if theres any connection to the internet needed, my phone will use my wifi connection. The problem with this, however, is that when you dont have a wifi connection available, the phone will not connect to the internet unless you change the above setting back to your 3G network...
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Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
k.electron said:
no i cant keep switching. thats too much trouble. there must be a better way.
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As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
rexian said:
Does it automatically connect to WiFi when a known network is within range even when the phone is in sleep? If yes, does it disconnect once not in use for a while?
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no i leave wifi off normally to conserve battery.
Solarenemy68 said:
As far as I know there is no way to do it automatically. You can use one or the other but they must be switched manually. All HTC phones have always worked this way. Maybe if the demand was high enough which apparently it is not a Chef could come up with an app that would do it. But for now you must do it manually.
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that is extremely failurous. not preferring the fastest internet connection is major fail. did not know that.
My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
|Jason8| said:
My phone does this automatically. It uses the WiFi whenever it's on. If the WiFi is off, it uses the data connection.
Maybe I'm understanding it wrong?
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what the heck? how? u must help me find out..
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
wakady said:
i think it does prefer wifi over 3g in WM 6.5...!!
to check it out here is wt i've done....turn data connection off...check that its on in the notification manager "when u click on the task bar"..then run any app that needs internet " opera, msn messenger, email...etc" while this app is online..
now there r two ways to check it
1-the notification manager & see if it turned to 3g data connection...if so u should find a timer running in ur service provider section, if not then its only using wifi
2-check the communication manager & see if it turned the data connection on, if its off then its using wifi...
thats how it is with my touch pro...i'm using energy rom nov. 08 build
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firiel said:
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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apparently its some sort of combo of this. i am using 6.5. any apps that have been using 3g continue with it. and i have to go to the comm screen and turn off data to force new apps to consume wifi. which isnt too bad, certainly not as bad as going to the network options. i would wish they made this a bit more seamless like with the desktop technology, i can switch from wired to wireless lan without even dropping a skype call.
firiel said:
Indeed it prefers wifi connections 2 data, but You have to :
1. Have Known wifi spots in range
2. Keep wifi connection on, while in stand by
Keep in mind that if a program starts to use the data connection it wont change to use the wifi one. So firstly connect and then open programs.
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now i have discovered a new problem. even if i open the app after i have wifi turned on and data turned off, some apps just dont want to use the wifii.
Bing maps and google maps for example just tell me there is no internet.
this is really pissing me off, whats the point of having wifi on a phone if the apps wont use it. i dont really care about the google location service if the data is through the internet, but atleast turn on.
lame.

Hows the GPS work? / Does it connect to Wifi apps like Wireless Tether?

As above states, is the GPS getting a good lock? Are you able to connect and tether to a rooted Android phone using Wifi tether apps and NOT just the mobile hot spot function?
Rob
EDIT *** And does the notification LED illuminate or flash when receiving an email and such? I heard it's part of the power button ****
BubbaRob1978 said:
As above states, is the GPS getting a good lock? Are you able to connect and tether to a rooted Android phone using Wifi tether apps and NOT just the mobile hot spot function?
Rob
EDIT *** And does the notification LED illuminate or flash when receiving an email and such? I heard it's part of the power button ****
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GPS works well. Tested it briefly today... I used GPS Status to get the aGPS data.
Connects to my phone via wi-fi hotspot... I don't run any wi-fi tether apps.
kcchen said:
GPS works well. Tested it briefly today... I used GPS Status to get the aGPS data.
Connects to my phone via wi-fi hotspot... I don't run any wi-fi tether apps.
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Oh yes I need one of these!! 7" Navigation and full feature tablet to boot!! Plus I am reading some killer battery life results too!! Yikes...Just when I was trying to become gadget free!!
GPS on my Flyer (WiFi 16GB) works great, even indoors. It seems even more accurate than my iPhone 4.
BubbaRob1978 said:
Oh yes I need one of these!! 7" Navigation and full feature tablet to boot!! Plus I am reading some killer battery life results too!! Yikes...Just when I was trying to become gadget free!!
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This is what I'm curious about. If full navigation works with this over wi-fi tether I'm 100% sold.
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EDIT *** And does the notification LED illuminate or flash when receiving an email and such? I heard it's part of the power button ****
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Verifoed. LED in the power button blinks green when you get e-mail.
Problem WMW Wifi Router
HTC Flyer (Wifi only version for USA) don't get signal of WMW Wifi Router running at HTC Touch Cruise (P3650) pda. So I could not connect it to internet using my cell line. too bad for me

[Q] Wifi icon gray, Talk not working ... NOT A WIFI ISSUE THREAD!

So I picked up a Prime today (running 4.0.3), and I'm having a weird issue... I can connect just fine to wifi, everything works properly, except two things:
- My wifi icon is gray. Always. Regardless of where I am, the network I'm connected to, etc.
- Talk doesn't connect. The error is "Connection interrupted -- status updates temporarily unavailable"
I have cleared Market and Talk data. I have removed and re-added my Google account. I don't have PDANet or any other tethering software. I've checked my wifi connection to make sure there is no proxy or anything. My speed is just fine! I've disabled/reenabled Background Sync. Syncs on the Google account work just fine.
I'm at a loss here... HALP?
I'm having this problem too.. did you ever find a solution? anybody else?
Mine does that when Im too far away from the router but it goes blue when i get closer.
gobills33 said:
I'm having this problem too.. did you ever find a solution? anybody else?
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I ended up turning off wifi, deleting the files in /system/etc/wifi, and rebooting. Had to re setup my wifi connections, but somehow in restoring a backup (or the ICS upgrade) the saved profiles must have gotten corrupted...
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I'm having a similar problem. My icon starts out blue and everything works fine, but then after letting it sit for a while, my icon turns greay. Have not been able to figure it out yet. Pretty frustrating to set your tablet down and 15 minutes later have it stop getting notifications because it's disconnected itself or whatever it is when the icon turns grey.
I have my wifi settings set to always remain on while sleeping.
vels13 said:
I'm having a similar problem. My icon starts out blue and everything works fine, but then after letting it sit for a while, my icon turns greay. Have not been able to figure it out yet. Pretty frustrating to set your tablet down and 15 minutes later have it stop getting notifications because it's disconnected itself or whatever it is when the icon turns grey.
I have my wifi settings set to always remain on while sleeping.
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Try the above?
Sent from my HTC Sensation
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Try the above?
Sent from my HTC Sensation
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I tried but didn't work. I think we had different issues. It didn't sound like you could get a connection at all, while I get a connection that goes bad after the tablet has been idle for a while. Turning off/on wifi allows me to reconnect.
My android devices do this typically due to the firewall settings on whatever I am connected to, my wireless at work or example.
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That is my assumption as well. I have the same issue but i figured it out. Its all you r wireless settings on the router. I have changed the broadcasting channel and since no more gray antennas. Its all i guess channel interference.
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vels13 said:
I tried but didn't work. I think we had different issues. It didn't sound like you could get a connection at all, while I get a connection that goes bad after the tablet has been idle for a while. Turning off/on wifi allows me to reconnect.
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Yeah, different issue. I actually had no problems ever connecting, it just wouldn't sync properly with Google's servers...
tdrussell said:
My android devices do this typically due to the firewall settings on whatever I am connected to, my wireless at work or example.
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I've had that happen before, but in this case it was a constant 100% of the time thing, regardless of firewalls/connection/etc. Just something weird with the wifi profile on the device. I'm more convinced it had to do with restoring HC data after being upgraded to ICS.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
I always wondered why my cell phone did the same thing, and in my searches, gray just means that it's not connected to Google's sync service. Now, while I agree with that to an extent.... I too have noticed on my cell phone and Prime (when tethered to my cell), that if either end is gray, I have non-functioning internet. This even happens if I have full bars and HSPA for my data connection. I personally have never noticed this on any of the 3 wireless home routers that I've connected to, however.
NAiLs00 said:
I always wondered why my cell phone did the same thing, and in my searches, gray just means that it's not connected to Google's sync service. Now, while I agree with that to an extent.... I too have noticed on my cell phone and Prime (when tethered to my cell), that if either end is gray, I have non-functioning internet. This even happens if I have full bars and HSPA for my data connection. I personally have never noticed this on any of the 3 wireless home routers that I've connected to, however.
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Same experience here. Grey typically means you have internet but no google services, but on my prime grey means no internet at all.
I've managed to get my wifi connection stable by using an app in the market called Wifi Keep Alive. I'm not sure if this app has any impact on battery draw in sleep mode, but I didn't notice much of a change after installing it. I left my Prime on all night last night which has always caused the grey icon, but my icon was still blue this morning and internet was functioning

[Q] 4g and wifi icon after 4.4

I now have a 4g and wifi icon present on the notification bar when connected to wifi, not just a wifi icon, any one else with this problem?
Not a "problem", just a change they made. Even with mobile data off you will still have the icon letting you know there is data coverage available. Don't know why they changed it, but thats what they do lol
Coycaine said:
Not a "problem", just a change they made. Even with mobile data off you will still have the icon letting you know there is data coverage available. Don't know why they changed it, but thats what they do lol
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Change, for the sake of change. I can almost hear the software engineers: "Well, there's really nothing wrong with this, but if we change it, people will think it's a "NEW AND IMPROVED" feature!
I have 2 S4. On one the 4g stays grayed when WiFi is running. My other S4 has the 4g on while WiFi is on. In each case, neither shows any 4g activity (arrows moving) with WiFi on. This is rather odd since both are setup the same with regards to WiFi and mobile data.
Update: by turning off Caller Name ID app, I have both of my S4 acting in the same way (4g consistently grayed out when WiFi on). Why the app affects the 4g icon is beyond me.

4G stays on when connected to WiFi?

Why does the 4G stay on when connected to WiFi, it does not seem to be using any data but wouldn't it save battery if it turned the 4G off when not in use? I used to have sprint and mobile data always automatically turned off when on WiFi, this is my first verizon phone, is this normal on all verizon devices?
mcerk02 said:
Why does the 4G stay on when connected to WiFi, it does not seem to be using any data but wouldn't it save battery if it turned the 4G off when not in use? I used to have sprint and mobile data always automatically turned off when on WiFi, this is my first verizon phone, is this normal on all verizon devices?
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As long as the 4G icon is greyed out it's disconnected. It's just in a ready state in case of sending or receiving mms when it will turn white with activity arrows
Hello, This is a problem on many devices. The best way to fix it is too go to Settings, Wireless Settings, Mobile Settings and then turn off your data.
MegaSam100 said:
Hello, This is a problem on many devices. The best way to fix it is too go to Settings, Wireless Settings, Mobile Settings and then turn off your data.
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yes, I realize I can do that im not gonna worry about turning it on and off every time, it dont seem to be using any mobile data but I was looking at it as a battery drain...same reason I dont keep bluetooth on when not in use
MegaSam100 said:
Hello, This is a problem on many devices. The best way to fix it is too go to Settings, Wireless Settings, Mobile Settings and then turn off your data.
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If you turn data off you will not be able to receive or send mms. Best to leave it alone. I use g3 teeakbox to hide it when on Wi-Fi
For phone calls and text messages. Data will go through wifi.
mcerk02 said:
yes, I realize I can do that im not gonna worry about turning it on and off every time, it dont seem to be using any mobile data but I was looking at it as a battery drain...same reason I dont keep bluetooth on when not in use
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I hear you - if the 4g radio is on it is theoretically eating your battery; although it may be negligible with the power saving built into the phone. If you want 4g/data completely off while on WiFi you can download a tasker app from the play store and set it up to automatically switch off data when WiFi is connected & vice versa; it's been working well for me. You'll lose stock MMS if data is turned off though, so consider that before you use a tasker. You can always grab a 3rd party messaging app for MMS if you need it, and they will work because they are only over WiFi.
But if it is just an aesthetic thing, as mentioned in a post above, you can hide the icon using g3 tweaks.
The only difference is that these phones show you what mobile data connection you have. On T-Mobile, you may have a phone that only shows the bars when on WiFi, but it's still connected, just look at an app like Signal Check Pro.
This is not eating your battery, it's not being used, it simply tells you what connection is idle for when you are no longer using WiFi.

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