Camera Quality of XS compared with Arc - Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go

Hi guys,
It seems that the picture quality of Xperia Arc is better than XS, I am not able to focus properly and pictures and not looking sharp !!!
I am using 9MP.
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Try Camera360 app in play store, I always used it on Arc, bought Xperia S a few days ago, mine takes good photos I use 12mp, haven't tried 9mp. Always try using as lower ISO as possible, higher ISO rates produce more noise, also avoid AUTO SCN setting, always use custom ones for better results. I use Mutli-Auto Focus setting since touch focus wont work right. If you find holding your hand still while taking picture try using stabilization. I liked Xperia S camera but I miss Burst mode of Cyber-Shot cameras. Hope I helped

I sm using following setting on XS:
Mode NORMAL
Scenes OFF
Flash OFF
Resolution 9MP
Focus Mode SINGLE AUTO FOCUS
ISO 100-200 depending on condn.
Capturing Mode ON SCREEN BUTTON
m good at photography but somehow I am not pleased with XS cam quality :banghead:

I assume you've checked that the lens is nice and clean.
Why are you using onscreen button though ? the dedicated button works just fine and you can half press it to get it to attempt a focus lock auto focus doesn't always get it right first time, particularly on single point rather than multi point

keithwalton said:
I assume you've checked that the lens is nice and clean.
Why are you using onscreen button though ? the dedicated button works just fine and you can half press it to get it to attempt a focus lock auto focus doesn't always get it right first time, particularly on single point rather than multi point
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Strange how some say the Arc is better than the S. I have an Xperia P and not an S but I'm quite pleased with its photographs.
I personally use the touch focus and shoot option. This way my phone doesnt move at that final moment when I'm about to click. Previously whenever I used the hardware button the phone shook a bit on the final click creating somewhat comparatively blurry images.

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X10 Camera questions/problems.

Hi,
I'v noticed some potential problems with my camera, and I have a few other questions too to help make me get the best out of the camera. This is all using 2.1 ROM and SE camera app.
1.When my camera autofocuses, sometimes it emits a light 'clicking' noise from the inside. I'm not sure if this is only me, and I want to make sure it's not an oddity.
And about the autofocus, it's terrible sometimes. The autofocus bracket turns red quite a lot, meaning it's not got a lock on focus and sometimes it shoots with the red bracket meaning it's not focused (this happens on touch to shoot mode). Sometimes, it says its focused on something when it isn't. This usually happens when close up, like 15-20 cm away from the object.
2.Image stabilization- is it good or bad? I've noticed camera shots are a bit more grainy with image stabilization on and it takes a bit of time to process the shots too. Does image stabilization make any noticable impact on quality of photos?
3. Metering:Center, spot vs average. Which is the best?
4.How exactly does Macro mode work? I've not seen any noticable difference of pictures using it and normal mode.
5.Is there a way to remove the jpeg compression, or at least reduce it? I think photos could be MUCH better if sony hadn't implemented that.
So those are my questions. Thanks for any help on shedding light to the issue(s)
1. I noticed that click on K750 also, and I think that autofocusing mechanism. And yeah x10 has terrible autofocus, especcialy on macros
2. Image stabilisation is used mostly in night/low light images and it compesates hands shaking when holding camera. It does not do wonders, but it is much easier to take night photo with stabilisation on. Also when its on, pictures are not sharp as they are without stabiliastion.
3. generaly:
average - for landscapes and well lit shots
centre - portaits
spot - macros
4. you cannont autofocus on macro distance(10cm or so) if macro or auto mode isnt turned on
5. only way to reduce JPEG compression is to use vignette aplication with super fine quality (check Camera 360 app also)
one major tip, play with EV always and youll get much better results
cheers mate
hibiskus said:
1. I noticed that click on K750 also, and I think that autofocusing mechanism. And yeah x10 has terrible autofocus, especcialy on macros
2. Image stabilisation is used mostly in night/low light images and it compesates hands shaking when holding camera. It does not do wonders, but it is much easier to take night photo with stabilisation on. Also when its on, pictures are not sharp as they are without stabiliastion.
3. generaly:
average - for landscapes and well lit shots
centre - portaits
spot - macros
4. you cannont autofocus on macro distance(10cm or so) if macro or auto mode isnt turned on
5. only way to reduce JPEG compression is to use vignette aplication with super fine quality (check Camera 360 app also)
one major tip, play with EV always and youll get much better results
cheers mate
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Thanks a lot, your post was informative . Cheers
5.Is there a way to remove the jpeg compression, or at least reduce it? I think photos could be MUCH better if sony hadn't implemented that.
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5. only way to reduce JPEG compression is to use vignette aplication with super fine quality (check Camera 360 app also)
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28spawn's modded stock camera for 2.1 has somewhat less compressed jpegs and some other improvements. It's in the Themes & Apps section.
I have had a couple of autofocus camera phones now and they have all done the clicking noise during the focusing, so I am guessing that is completely normal. Image stabilization does make the pictures turn out a lot worse, try to avoid using that. And as hibiskus said, the EV controls make a world of difference! Check out this link http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com...xposure-value/ It has some useful information on the EV controls.

Camera Manual Focus!!

I am wondering is there is any way that we could control the focus of the camera manually "not like touch to focus" like when we do zooming instead of it will change the focus so it give us stable focus on that point!!
I hope my idea is clear!!
it looks like there is no hope!!
ahmedoxo said:
I am wondering is there is any way that we could control the focus of the camera manually "not like touch to focus" like when we do zooming instead of it will change the focus so it give us stable focus on that point!!
I hope my idea is clear!!
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the zoom on the xperia s is digital = no hope
optik19918 said:
the zoom on the xperia s is digital = no hope
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I think he meant that instead of zooming while pressing the volume up and down buttons, that the camera should refocus, like it does when you tap the screen.
Mixters said:
I think he meant that instead of zooming while pressing the volume up and down buttons, that the camera should refocus, like it does when you tap the screen.
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You can use the camera button to focus
I take pictures on manual mode all the time and that means pictures in low light with less noise
About the focusing, just press the camera button a little bit and then your phone will focus, if you don't like the focus just let the button go and try again while holding the phone slightly different with light source etc, then you can really make nice pictures
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hey guys I know about this, what am talking about is to have the control of the focus!! once you press on the screen it will ""auto"" focus on that point!! but I want to control the degree of the focus like professional cameras!!
ahmedoxo said:
hey guys I know about this, what am talking about is to have the control of the focus!! once you press on the screen it will ""auto"" focus on that point!! but I want to control the degree of the focus like professional cameras!!
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You can't.
may be , we can control it by using custom driver for camera.
as in SE k850 , it has manual focus by using custom camdrive.
or, anyone can make app that make manual focus possible ?
I've used some phone from Japan, mainly from Sharp, and all of them have manual focus. It's extremely convenient, especialy when you need to capture something in close distance, like die-casts. They run on customized Symbian, so IMO, Symbian has some driver/libs to support manual focus
I don't know if new Android phones sold locally in Japan can manual focus or not, since I haven't had a chance to take a look of them. But I think Android platform can support that, because the stock Gingerbread ROM on Optimus 2X has manual focus.
manual focus
has any other phone having this option?
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camera manual focus
Sky A650 was have this option ! i'll take camera.apk in A650 and upload this !!!
Sr for my English
lolz.........
please THIS IS A REQUEST to all MODDERS and DEVELOPERS out there....!!!
If possible, it would be really useful to get manual focus in android..
please respond.. :good: :fingers-crossed:
correct me if im wrong, but i believe this should have been posted on QnA forum :silly:
anyways, yeah everybody's been pining for this for quite some time already here's to hoping that this finally happens :fingers-crossed:
can we assign the volume button as the control of the focus via key layout on android ?
sony_84 said:
can we assign the volume button as the control of the focus via key layout on android ?
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seems no-one just understands what we are asking for..
you will need a android 4.2!
Don't know if it helps, but camerazoom fx has touch to focus feature :thumbup:
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hlaraujo said:
Don't know if it helps, but camerazoom fx has touch to focus feature :thumbup:
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The OP meant for stock camera
sent from my super pimped Xperia Sola
Motorola launch new app for manual focus. Find on google but unfortunately it does work on my phone. I don't know why.

Questions about Z5 Compact Camera

I am considering this device for my next phone but had a couple of questions about the camera. It is important to me to be able to take pictures in quick succession (like taking multiple photographs of moving objects etc.).
1. On some of the other competing phones, I've noticed the ability to take a bunch of photos in quick succession, with no lag (the phone is ready to take the next picture immediately after taking a picture). I have read on a couple of sites that after a picture is taken, the Z5/Z5C takes a second or two to save it, so that the camera is not immediately available for the next photo. For those who have experience with this phone, what has been your experience?
2. Is the camera experience on the Compact similar to that on the Z5 or are there any differences?
Thank you!
You can't take pictures in quick succession like that sadly. It takes a while :/
Thanks. Is the lag true of all modes (superior auto and manual) and all resolutions (8 my and 23 mp)?
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
VJCR said:
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Edit: I made a quick video, so u can check it out while not having this device (yet?)
https://youtu.be/aP8dBfkU6QA
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Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
VJCR said:
Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
TheEndHK said:
1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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Thank you!
In SuperAuto or Manual, you can take fast photos. sort of. If it has to do an autofocus, you have to wait. However if you take successive photos without the focus needing to change much, it is fairly fast. Like less half a second. However, if I tap as fast as I can, it can't keep up. Maybe 1 photo for every three taps.
Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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In older xperia like Z1/Z2, Timeshift burst only takes 1920x1080 photo resolution(2MP). Is that increase to 8MP now on Z5c?
VJCR said:
langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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Yes I use it for thunderstorm lightnings especially. You can save 1 (or more) of those 60 shots separately and afterwards delete the timeshift pictures.
You can also review the timeshift pictures via stock album app.
However, if u decide to use another album app, you'll be a bit annoyed by every timeshift picture shows 60 pics that's why I delete the timeshift pics after saving the best 1 or 2 separately.
BTW, just made another video of an timeshift shot of a thunderstorm lightning I did last year with my old Xperia Z (C6603) https://youtu.be/ROmoWD_c9hM
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
HypeZ85 said:
coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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I think the current build is beta and got very high expectation on 6.0, if Sony doesn't fix the camera I'll consider to sell it out. But other than the camera, the screen, waterproof(no usb flag), stereo speaker are all real upgraded when compared to older Z1c/Z3c.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/disappointed-z5-camera-pictures-quality-t3217766/page82
There are a couple of guys on Z5 board keep repeating Z5 camera all around better than S6, G4/V10 or Lumia which made me laugh out though.

Trust me, you don't want to miss out on this camera trick

So, this just happened now. I am watching the Raptors vs Bucks game, and during the timeout I was playing with the camera app, and I suddenly remembered something that I found out when I had the P20 Pro and totally forgot about until now.
So here's the thing, to get even better results out of your camera, simply switch to the pro mode within the camera app, don't tinker with the settings, you only have to switch to the mode and leave everything untouched, and you will get more detailed with better colors pictures out of your phone. I only tested it out now, indoors in my room, and the two pictures I'll post down below will speak for themselves, but if this trick work as good as it did on my old P20 Pro, then I expect better pictures in all scenarios.
Good luck, and hope this trick helps everyone who reads this post.
Cheers.
r u sure you didn't use AI when you didn't use PRO mode?
I have better photo also if I switch from AI on to AI off...Anyway I'm going to try...
guybrush2099 said:
r u sure you didn't use AI when you didn't use PRO mode?
I have better photo also if I switch from AI on to AI off...Anyway I'm going to try...
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The first one(on the left) was taken in Pro mode without changing anything in the settings, and the second one was taken in Auto mode with AI off.
The difference is because they use different meetering modes
As above. To give an example of this, when I switched from normal mode to pro mode just now (at 5.6x zoom) it switched back from the periscope lens to the normal lens as the parameters that Pro mode wanted couldn't be effectively achieved using the zoom lens.

[GUIDE] A hint to get maximum detail from the camera

Some reviews as on Notebookcheck.net noted that the P30 Pro camera has a problem with fine details. It can't be noticed on the phone's screen but viewed at 100% magnification on a larger monitor I initially discovered the same.
Investigating the issue further I discovered that when in the default "Photo" mode you touch to focus or use other modes the camera triggers a heavier noise reduction and rough sharpening but when in default "Photo" mode you just let the phone focus without touch focusing it delivers much better fine details. Again this difference is hardly visible on the mobile but magnifying to 100% on a computer or TV screen the quality is very much better.
I am using the 11.0.0.146 FW and camera version 11.0.1.135 but I guess this behavior is valid for other versions too.
yaneca said:
Some reviews as on Notebookcheck.net noted that the P30 Pro camera has a problem with fine details. It can't be noticed on the phone's screen but viewed at 100% magnification on a larger monitor I initially discovered the same.
Investigating the issue further I discovered that when in the default "Photo" mode you touch to focus or use other modes the camera triggers a heavier noise reduction and rough sharpening but when in default "Photo" mode you just let the phone focus without touch focusing it delivers much better fine details. Again this difference is hardly visible on the mobile but magnifying to 100% on a computer or TV screen the quality is very much better.
I am using the 11.0.0.146 FW and camera version 11.0.1.135 but I guess this behavior is valid for other versions too.
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Interesting, will try. Thanks for the tip, I used manual focus a lot.
mircea89fzr said:
Interesting, will try. Thanks for the tip, I used manual focus a lot.
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There is some issue with the algorithm for sure and while hopefully they may fix this it is good to know and account for. Switching and shooting between modes, e.g. photo-night-photo seems to trigger this difference too.
It is a shame that there is no root since the camera settings for each mode's sharpening, noise reduction, jpg quality/size, etc. are all in text format files and could easily be changed to get much better quality out of the very capable hardware.

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