Being something of a gps fanatic, I'd like to store all or most of the openstreetmaps data on my Jetstream. Unfortunately the available storage is pretty limited, and not nearly enough for my needs. Although the tablet accepts a 32 gb external sd card, I've found not way to access maps stored on this card - they must be stored on the internal storage card to be available to MapDroid.
Does anyone know how to fool MapDroid into thinking the external storage is internal, or to change settings so it will use the external storage?
I am not familiar with MapDroid, so I went searching for it since it isn't in the Play Market. I found an app by that name but it appears very limited in features. Did you mean MapDroyd (which *is* in the Play Market)?
By the way, being a GPS fanatic, have you tried OruxMaps? I use that and it does allow storing maps to /sdcard2/whatever or anywhere else you want.
mwoliver,
Yes, it is Mapdroyd, not Mapdroid - sorry about mispelling. Mapdroyd is pretty impressive in many ways, but it is based on openstreetmaps that is open/volunteer source. Its coverage does not include Africa, the Middle East, China, etc - really limited to Europe, N/S America, and all the maps and the app are free. In many ways it's better for browsing maps than the name-brands such as CoPilot, and it does use satellite location data. Has no search or driving directions, so is limited.
I had enough space on my Jetstream internal sd card, so I was able to install all the maps with a bit of space left over (about 5 gb), but I'd prefer using the external card, so I left a message with Mapdroyd but haven't received any answer so far.
I've looked at OruxMaps but my impression is the maps are user-created, chiefly from topo maps, which I'd rather not get involved in.
Yeah, I went ahead and tried MapDroyd after posting the previous comment and indeed there doesn't appear to be a way to choose your storage location.
If you haven't looked at OruxMaps lately, you might want to have another try. It can retrieve map tiles from lots of locations (including openstreetmaps) and store them locally. Once stored, you can switch between map sources at will and it will load maps from cache. It's been useful to me, anyway.
Good luck with MapDroyd devs, hope they can help you out.
I found another map system by the same company, NavDroyd, meaning it has navigation capabilities. Very similar to MapDroyd but more info in each map, so that it is not compatable with MapDroyd maps. It also has option to install maps on the ext. sd card. Free map downloads, like MapDroyd, once you install NavDroyd - not free, the app costs about $6 from google store. I purchased it because it's the cheapest by far, with such geographic coverage, of the commercial gps nav programs such as CoPilot. Probably not as accurate as these com. pgms. but ok for me.
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How much memory does the app require?
I have 24mb on my Hero Plus 7gb on my card but keeps saying can't install as not enough space
How can I get this to install etc?
According to my phone co-pilot uses 18.48MB, 11.22MB of that being the app, the other 7.26MB is under "Data". Adding maps will be stored on the SD card and doesn't get calculated until after downloading as maps are licence dependent.
best suggestion would be use app2sd if the message continues as you can see it should fit in easily enough.
disclaimer: This is the latest bought version for Australia, mileage may vary.
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According to my phone co-pilot uses 18.48MB, 11.22MB of that being the app, the other 7.26MB is under "Data". Adding maps will be stored on the SD card and doesn't get calculated until after downloading as maps are licence dependent.
best suggestion would be use app2sd if the message continues as you can see it should fit in easily enough.
disclaimer: This is the latest bought version for Australia, mileage may vary.
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Has to be rooted though :-(
please bear in mind I may be talking rubbish on this but I seem to remember hearing that during app installs the files extract themselves and often require double the space during the install process than they do when they are installed. It may be worthwhile removing a couple of apps which dont require a lot of setup, installing co-pilot, then adding the other apps back on.
Thanks for reply.
I think it's just crazy that HTC think the amount of free space supplied is all ok when it clearly is not.
Makes the having a memory card part of it kinda stupid really, when they don't let you use it for the most common thing!
It's not a must to have so not a big deal if I don't have it.
Has someone offline / offboard GPS navigation working? Which app?
Google Maps Navigation is not bad, but it needs an online connection, which is bad. I have an unlimited data plan, but GPS + 3G running at the same time drains a lot of battery, which is small and weak anyway. Therefore I am looking for an offline navigation software.
CoPilot it tells me that I do not have enough space, but I cleared my internal storage, 52 MB available, should be sufficient. Still doesn't work, it's also not listed in the list of compatible phones.
Navigion looks quite promising but to get it installed it seams I need a sd-card bigger then 2 GB, I guess like 4 GB.
Did you get some of these working?
I use Navigon Mobile Navigator ver. 3.6.1 and i´m very satisfied with it. the maps were stored on the sd card!
sigic aura also works...
This is my first tablet and I'm new to Android (always had Windows Mobile phones) so maybe this is common knowledge to Android users but I sure as hell can't find the answer via searching.
I finally bought a microSD card for my Prime but can't figure out how to use it efficiently. I can access it an copy files and folders to it via the File Manager so I know it works. However, I can't figure out how to make the camera save pictures and videos to it by default. After looking at that for a while I looked at my other apps and none of my programs seem to have an option to make use of the microSD card. Took me a while to figure out I can't even install programs to the SD card like I can with my Windows Mobile phone. I can deal with that last part though with 32 gigs on the internal card but if the only way to use the microSD card is to manually copy files over to it where those files are then inaccessible for all the apps so I have to manually copy them back over every time I need to use them, that's not acceptable.
What am I missing here? I can't believe this was intentionally designed this way. Is there some global setting that I'm missing to open things up?
I think most use the external card for music & vids and such that they carry over TO the tablet. I also noticed you cannot set apps to save there and I have an app that monitors apps when they install. & if they are SD compatible it alerts you.... it never works in this setup. No doubt you could - if rooted - move apps to SD card as I do this on my Droid all the time.
As for camera & vids no way to set SD as default.
Unless there been a change since honeycomb saving and running apps to sd is not native. Most people state that due to all the space the device comes with you don't need it since apk are so small. But I had 4 games take up 4.5 gb of space on my device so that rational does not float.
If you ever root your device there is app called gl to sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328053
worked great on honycomb (waiting till i get home to use new root so have not tried on ICS yet) I moved all my games to SD and they ran fine .. games like shadow Gun GTA III DeadSpace Backstab 9mm.
Just my two cents if there is way for using the sd card natively in ICS I also wold love to know.
On my measly 512mb OG Droid I have 110 apps on the SD card. Ahhhh thank God root.
For this 32gb beast I decided to forgo SD card apps as it does slow the app down (has to r/w from slower card) and Widgets can bust.
It is lame though that we cannot set cameras & vids to auto save but again you'd get a performance hit to a small degree.
The situation was worse before Honeycomb, in Gingerbread you could have a 16GB phone but the way it was partitioned only 1GB to 2GB was considered "internal memory" for app installation space/data while the rest was partitioned into a virtual "sdcard" folder that you needed things like App2SD to move over to that parition space (and not even fully, portions of app/data/cache would stay in the internal memory space). With HoneyComb/ICS the full 32GB or 64GB storage space is visible and useable between the internal/sdcard mounts. I got the 64GB Prime so I wouldn't have to worry about app install space any more since I like to load hundreds of apps/games. I also have a 64GB microSDHC card which I use to store a bunch of videos/music.
Thanks for the reply guys. Surprised that Android is built to limit itself like that. Really though, 32 gigs is a lot of space for the apps themselves. If it was just a matter of having to install the apps on the internal card, I wouldn't even bother cause I know with my use I'd never approach the limit if that was the only limitation.
However, not being able to save data used by the apps to external SD card is an issue as I see it. Will probably get around to rooting my Prime just so I can move some of the apps to the external SD card so they'll, hopefully, save and use the data there to keep my internal card free. I have a few aviation chart based apps that will be taking up quite a bit of space. I don't think it will max it out on their own but I like having plenty of extra space.
Not being able to save the video and pics from the camera directly to the external card is a bit ridiculous though. Perhaps a developer can fix that? In the mean time, I've thought of a work around that, while not perfect, will work for me I think in regards to keeping the camera videos and pics from clogging up my internal drive. I've installed an app called SyncMe that syncs via wifi network to my computer. I'll set it automatically to move all the camera data from my internal card to my computer and then I'll have another event that syncs the files on my computer to my tablet external SD card. The effect will be a daily transfer of all my camera activity to my external SD card while also making them available on my computer until I have time to sort through them.
Yea, once you play around with it a bit you'll find what works best for you. Some apps wont install on the external sd card and a lot of apps behave better when install on internal memory. Apps to SD is great for some but not all apps. Now separating the data from the apps that are internal to the external ? I'm not sure how well that will work.
Oh wait. I just re-read what you wrote. Yes - you can save the data to the external sd card and you will want to. There are lots of apps that do that, our Primes came with a backup app that will allow you to select apps to backup and/or apps with data. Sometimes you only want to restore apps and not data.
Your work around for storing pictures and video to external sd sounds like it will work well. 32gb is a lot of space. It's also really easy to use the File Manager to copy them over. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm guessing a lot of us here, especially if we rooted our phones, have grown accustom to setting schedules for apps to backup or data and for me - that includes things like pictures. Some of these backups will sync to a cloud so the data/pictures are safe and wont get lost. With 32gb I'm not concerned about space.
I wasn't really concerned about space that much until I recorded some video of my son's basketball game. Just over 6 min and the video was well over 800mb.
I could see that adding up real quick if I didn't stay on top of it and I know I won't without some 'auto' help. Got concerned that I might clog up my internal card with personal stuff that would inhibit my work stuff, which is what this is was for in the first place.
Haven't looked at the backup utility yet but every other app I've tried, I can't see a selectable option for getting choosing where to save and access data. Well, except for the SyncMe and File Manager I already mentioned. Oh, and I noticed that the gallery can see the photos and videos I moved to the external card so that's good.
Well, I found another reason to not like the microSD card option but this time, it's directly related to the Prime rather than a generic Android problem.
Took my prime out for work. First full day with hotel stay since buying the microSD card. By the time I get back to the hotel to settle in for the night, I notice the microSD card is missing. WTH!!!
Now, there wasn't anything on it that I don't have on the computer at home BUT, that card wasn't cheap. If it comes out of that slot so easy as to be gone after my first full day away from home with the Prime, I can't trust it at all.
First question, is there an easily accecible log file that would show when the card was unmounted? If so, that might narrow down where to look for it. Might actually be able to find it if I know when it came out.
Second question, does anyone know if the SD card slot on the dock is more secure? I would really like more space but I'm not paying for another microSD card.
To answer one of your questions, the dock SD card is much more secure, it does not stick out of the dock at all unlike the Micro SD in the tablet
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I would definitely recommend you have at least a sleeve for your Prime. That will help with the microSD not popping out, too. I have been carrying mine with me for weeks and haven't had mine pop out at all. No, I'm not aware of a way to find out when it was unmounted.
And yes - the dock has a SD card reader, so it's bigger and it will insert flush as opposed to sticking out a little due to the beveled design of the sides of the Prime. And with the usb port......well it's limitless really - maybe not to carry for every outing, but at home it's so easy to contect to the external hard drive and transfer movies and pictures that way. I really like the dock. Also, the prices of microSD cards have come waaaaay down. Sandisk, class 6, 16gb, $20.
"Haven't looked at the backup utility yet but every other app I've tried, I can't see a selectable option for getting choosing where to save and access data. Well, except for the SyncMe and File Manager I already mentioned. Oh, and I noticed that the gallery can see the photos and videos I moved to the external card so that's good."
The built in app backup does save your data to either or both places. This is data from your apps. Not things like downloads or pictures. It saves your apps too but you don't really have to do that since as soon as you sign into the market your apps are there. I have 2 other 3rd party apps that do the same thing with more features (schedules, bookmarks, etc)
Yep - the gallery and video player are going to find the pictures and videos/movies that you put on the removable sd card. The built in media player lets you tell it where to look for movies/videos. There really is plenty of room in the 32gb for most of your needs. Unless you root and start storing multiple weekly nandroid backups, you'll likely only need to manage your files when you "want to" - i.e. when you want to transfer pictures and videos on and off the Prime and/or when you back the Prime up. I have a 16gb $20 sandisk class 6 microsd that I've loaded up with 10 movies, but now I only have 4 gb left. I have over 80 3rd party apps installed to internal, that combined with the apps that came with it amount to only about 5gb, (plus misc pictures, videos, several hundred books, etc) and I still have 22 gb left. So I'm moving more movies to internal. I didn't get a 32gb tablet to leave a bunch of dead air
I have a TON of pictures and videos in my gallery. TONS. Thousands. But I've been using an android phone for several years so I'm synced with Google and the Cloud. Every picture I take with my phone or tablet is stored in the Cloud, private, available only to me unless I choose to make it public. I can access them anywhere from any computer within seconds of taking them. So they don't take up any space at all on any of my devices. Neither does my music anymore
Yeah, the 32 gigs is good for my needs. Not for my wants. I justified buying this thing to carry aeronautical chart which takes up several gigabits of space. Quite a bit of space but not so much that it overwhelms the internal card. However, when using it for secondary tasks like an HD video recorder, that space get chewed up fast. MicroSD was my plan for stuff like that. Will have to rethink that now.
Was planning on getting a sleeve or a case once I had the tab and keyboard and could figure out exaclty what I wanted for it (just got the keyboard) but that card got lost way too easy. Not buying another one even with the sleeve/case.
Well, the card showed up. Well, more accurately, it was sitting in a convenient place for me to stumble across it this morning.
Lucky for me for now.
I can't seem to find an answer to this simple questions: what is the path to the offline map files saved by Google Maps 6.9?
Workaround to limits
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This may be a way to offset the 6 map limit. As it is Maps 6.9 cannot load a trip from San Francisco to Las Vegas.
I downloaded a 71MB map, then I searched for a file of around that size with ES Explorer SD card analyst function... no chance. I thought about /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.apps.maps/cache for location, but this directory is only 24MB total and there are only smaller files inside it.
It must be in one of the caches though because every time I flash a new ROM, I wipe the cache and the Dalvik cache and my offline maps disappear. Knowing where this data is stored would maybe also allow users to back it up.
I just tried to download an extra 56MB map, and the aforementioned location increased in size by 8 or 9 MB. However I then deleted this same offline map and the directory size did not change at all...
Thought of the Dalvik cache also but there is nothing in there remotely close to the correct file sizes.
open maps app press left capacitive button offline maps and there it is the offline map
Isn't it in the application's data? Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Maps, then check its data?
I can't do this myself, I have a dedicated GPS unit and I uninstalled the Maps app after rooting
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open maps app press left capacitive button offline maps and there it is the offline map
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Yes, I know that but that doesn't tell me where in the directory structure these maps are stored
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Isn't it in the application's data? Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications -> Maps, then check its data?
I can't do this myself, I have a dedicated GPS unit and I uninstalled the Maps app after rooting
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Yes through that I can see that the Maps application is using about 46MB of data, but that doesn't tell me where this data is stored, or how it stored a 71MB map into 46MB of data...
I am getting seriously p*ssed off with this. Just upgraded to the latest Omega ROM, and my offline maps have disappeared again. I took a backup of the previous /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.apps.maps/cache and restored it, no chance. I also tried to restore the app data from Titanium backup, still no joy.
No amount of Googling offers a solution. I can't believe nobody has figured this out yet... back to redownloading all my areas of interest...
I keep replying to myself here, but I figure that since the CWM recovery cache wipe function does wipe the /cache partition (which is a Linux filesystem cache), it means that the offline Google maps must be stored in it.
Why Google would elect to store important user data in such a volatile location is beyond me.
Guess I'll go back to using traditional GPS apps like Sygic or IGo.
I'd like to figure this out as well....
yeah...
no tb backup for maps
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I've been trying to figure this out for hours now..
Look at this. Before downloading maps:
http://db.tt/NiCZb1bO
After:
http://db.tt/4hhOudyE
So it must be in the internal memory somewhere, hidden in the system apps section (?). It's a big mystery..
Anyone know how to get more than 6 maps saved offline? If i try to save another it says "maximum number of offline maps reached"
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Anyone know how to get more than 6 maps saved offline? If i try to save another it says "maximum number of offline maps reached"
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If we find out where the files are stored, then we can change the name of the files or folder, them I think you should be able to download another 6 more maps.
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When you do a ROM backup it does no save the downloaded maps. I've tried so many times and I have been on a quest to figure this out. I even went on Google's website and asked and know one seems to know where the maps are stored
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I've been trying to figure this out for hours now..
Look at this. Before downloading maps:
http://db.tt/NiCZb1bO
After:
http://db.tt/4hhOudyE
So it must be in the internal memory somewhere, hidden in the system apps section (?). It's a big mystery..
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What you're looking at is RAM memory, not physical memory.
If I have time this weekend to set up my computer again, I'll decompile the apk and look at the smali and stuff to see if that helps out at all. Unless someone else wants to do that for me and upload it somewhere for me to look at hint hint
But from what I've looked at I still believe it's stored on the sdcard in /sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.apps.maps
The 3 screenshots I've attached show that folder size before I have any offline maps, then the size of the map, then the folder size after, respectively. It increases, but obviously not as much as the download is so whatever type of container the app stores the files as must be really compressed or its split up elsewhere...
After I deleted this folder my stored offline maps went away fwiw.
Also going back on what one of you guys said; booting into recovery and wiping cache&dalvik cache seem to have no effect on the offline map I downloaded. as seen in the 4th pic (I downloaded a small map after deleting the folder off my sdcard to test this theory out)
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/sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.apps.maps/cache <- Stored there. Must be, since I am downloading offline maps currently and it's increasing in size. The files are many and have strange filenames but if you backup that folder and restore it in a new ROM, maybe you'll get your offline maps back?
we have s3 with 16 or 32gb right?
in 16gb version we have 11 usable!
so maybe Maps cache goes there! in OS location. maybe it is in ext location in internal storage, so we must search for another partitions
i hope someones like ownhere team find that out
It would be okay to have more than 6, but I'd really like to be able to backup.
Finding Offline Maps
you can find offline maps if you turn your wi-fi off.
go on maps click the left button and go on show offline list.
hope this helps :good:
The desire x is my business mobile, so i dont want to mess with it in case any problems and i get charged for the phone. to be honest i struggle, its terrible device compared to my personal phone.
I need maps to navigate around, the connection in London drops when im close to destination, i blame this on the tall buildings blocking signal but not sure if 100% the reason. i was told may help to download a map program and use this way, but there is no storage free, and i have only 2 small apps required for work.
Is there a way to delete apps like chrome and facebook / twitter which came pre-installed but i cant remove them.
I tried adding a sd card but it wont allow me to move apsp to sd card. ( so failing the deletion of apps, can i roll back the rom to a older version?
pretty weird that the data partition is full, when there are only 2 apps installed.
are you storing all your company-mail on your phone or something like that??
whatever, as first step you can try to locate the storage-hog by using a storage analyser like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobile_infographics_tools.mydrive&hl=de
i have downlaoded the program but not sure what i am lookign for?
can i remove the android APK files? surely once program isntalled i no longer need these?
A takes 591mb
O takes 127mb
App storage is taking 2.51Gb of 2.91 available.
Apps = 704Mb
other = 1.82Mb
Available - 408Mb but when i download the map program it requires me to download a large file for offline maps. plus i have this space as i deleted a few photos which were for work but old. so when i take photos this space decreases further.
the only apps i can uninstall are the two apps (about 40Mb each for work, plus i have pocket locker and now this analyser which have small footprints).