http://m.gizmodo.com/5919387/sprints-upcoming-4g-lte-networkat-least-its-faster-than-wimax
Sprint plans to debut the new LTE system by the end of the year, rolling it out to Atlanta, Baltimore, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, and San Antonio. The rest of the country will be reportedly covered by the end of 2014, though company spokespeople have yet to confirm when and where it will launch until then.
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As long as its 800mhz I could care less whether its lte or wimax.
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I'm not sure a speed test with no one else on it really means anything. It's the same as when everyone is drooling over the fact they can see a lte signal is available in their neighborhood but they can't connect to it. But they promise it will be live soon. Gosh, isn't there something they promised us that others can see but we can't get? What was that......Hmmm?
yousefak said:
As long as its 800mhz I could care less whether its lte or wimax.
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QFT!
Had WiMax used 800mhz it would've done so much better! I've said that for a while. I don't think there is anything wrong with WiMax aside from the frequency Sprint and Clear uses.
LTE will be launched on the 1900 and eventually get to the 800. It will be on both depending on how far away you are from the tower. WiMAX will still have its own seperate tower and will still be 2.4Ghz
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May I once again say that SPRINT DOES NOT HAVE A 4G NETWORK. They never have and they never will. If you want a 4G network... Go with Verizon wireless. 50+M down 12+M up.
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May I once again say that SPRINT DOES NOT HAVE A 4G NETWORK. They never have and they never will. If you want a 4G network... Go with Verizon wireless. 50+M down 12+M up.
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Lol except now that there are many users on it that 50 down is more like 10. Similar to sprint
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May I once again say that SPRINT DOES NOT HAVE A 4G NETWORK. They never have and they never will. If you want a 4G network... Go with Verizon wireless. 50+M down 12+M up.
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If you want to get technical, no one has a true 4G network. 4G standards are set at 100 mpbs while mobile and 1 gbps while stationary. Also, 50 mb down? Yea dude, in your dreams. My friends galaxy nexus normally gets around 10 mbps, and not much higher peak. Sprints new network will be very competitive with what Verizon and ATT offers, especially once they roll out LTE on the 800 mhz channel that iDEN is sucking up and when they partner it with clearwire's TDD-LTE network on 2500 mhz. Combined, they own more spectrum than any other carrier.
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May I once again say that SPRINT DOES NOT HAVE A 4G NETWORK. They never have and they never will. If you want a 4G network... Go with Verizon wireless. 50+M down 12+M up.
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By that logic, Sprint LTE is 40+M down and 10+M up. Once you get people on the network, it turns to 12down/4up on both networks. I doubt we'll see any major difference between Verizon's and sprint's speeds.
Don't believe me? Switch to Verizon and run a speedtest on their LTE. If it goes faster than 15mbps down, I'll eat my nuts.
And as another user also said, nobody has a real 4G network yet. LTE-Advanced will reach real 4G speeds of 1GB down/100mb up.
I must say that no carrier has a true by the definition 4g network by definition a 4g network has 100 mbps still down speed and only train cars really have that and some private networks but no cell carriers not even Verizon has that
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Id be happy with 500k down right now damn. I consistently run 60k to 200k and I'm in a large metro area. Was rocking a 40k down for 6 months until recently. With that plus this ics wait sprint has lost me as a future customer. I'm rooting for sprint as a competitor, but I can't wait till Verizon gets a decent phone. Id rather have a consistent 1m+ down and pay more for it than this spotty crap.
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faster than rogers
I'm patiently waiting for network vision to come to Raleigh NC, but I can't say that a bad ass Nexus device on Verizon later this year wouldn't make me switch. I'm loving unlimited data but I just might switch for being able to have the latest and greatest Nexus device when Sprint usually gets it months later. With a 2 GB plan, Verizon is the same price as Sprint for me but I would probably end up having to get a 4 GB plan since I use a bit more than 2 a month, but I would be willing to pay an extra 10 a month for an awesome phone and the incredible verizon 4G we have around here. I mean after all, I switched to Sprint because of the OG Evo.
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Id be happy with 500k down right now damn. I consistently run 60k to 200k and I'm in a large metro area. Was rocking a 40k down for 6 months until recently. With that plus this ics wait sprint has lost me as a future customer. I'm rooting for sprint as a competitor, but I can't wait till Verizon gets a decent phone. Id rather have a consistent 1m+ down and pay more for it than this spotty crap.
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3G was never a problem for me:
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I'm happy with wimax, more so since it started to work in my whole place. I just ran a few speed tests in my bedroom and speeds were very good.
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One hour I'm at 800kbps. The next I'm at 2200. Then 200. Then 600. What the hell is going on? Its been like this for weeks. Are they messing with the towers? Where do you guys get your sprint news to know when this stuff is happening. It just seems so eratic. Thoughts?
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Are they messing with the towers?
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It's likely they are for your area:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
Gotchya ok. Well that's nice to hear. Hopefully it will all settle down soon. It's been like a month with this crazyness. But I could see that it could take that long to do the many towers in this area, causing congestion and such. Thanks for the info
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Gotchya ok. Well that's nice to hear. Hopefully it will all settle down soon. It's been like a month with this crazyness. But I could see that it could take that long to do the many towers in this area, causing congestion and such. Thanks for the info
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Hopefully you're lucky and that's exactly what's going on in your area.
your lucky. I can't even think about getting those speeds here ever. The MAX i see is about 1.13Mbps and thats at 6am here when no one else is on the tower. During normal hours of the day its 0.16Mbps avg. Just thankful I'm always around wifi connection for the most part.
can't wait till they get to my area and get things rocking.
Seems like once the evo got cheaper **** is slow around here now. I think its just to many users and to much data for one tower to handle.
My 3g was alright on my evo, since i've got my evo3d its almost useless in most locations
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It's likely they are for your area:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
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I knew a small amount about their network upgrade, specifically via my interest in 4g (mainly LTE), because I was lied to when I opened my sprint account about 4g availability. Here in Arizona there is next to no 4g [both indoor and outdoor] coverage, and none in my city despite it being the 5 th fastest growing city in the us. Their current Wimax roll out is/was despicable, and an absolute failure. LTE has more potential than Wimax, from the way I hear it the evo 3D should be capable of either frequency spectrum with just a software update (can't verify the accuracy of that fact), but some indoor Wimax would be a huge upgrade for me!
The detail in the article you posted made it an exciting read, thanks for doing the dirty work and finding and posting this little glimmer of hope!
Data on sprint sucks right now...I'm getting a whopping 55k down during the day, and 600k during the evening...I'm not looking forward to iPhone hitting...its going to get much worse
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I knew a small amount about their network upgrade, specifically via my interest in 4g (mainly LTE), because I was lied to when I opened my sprint account about 4g availability. Here in Arizona there is next to no 4g [both indoor and outdoor] coverage, and none in my city despite it being the 5 th fastest growing city in the us. Their current Wimax roll out is/was despicable, and an absolute failure. LTE has more potential than Wimax, from the way I hear it the evo 3D should be capable of either frequency spectrum with just a software update (can't verify the accuracy of that fact), but some indoor Wimax would be a huge upgrade for me!
The detail in the article you posted made it an exciting read, thanks for doing the dirty work and finding and posting this little glimmer of hope!
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Just so you know the general argument LTE > WiMax is the most bogus miss informed crap out there. your comparing standards, and as far as speed is concerned they both offer the same roughly. The reason WiMax gets a bad rap is b/c of the freq spectrum it is rolled out on being 2.5GHz doesn't get much building penetration hence the low coverage areas. If they were to put LTE on the same band WiMax is currently on we all would get identical results.
The only reason this rollout is going to be better and will give LTE a better coverage than WiMax is b/c of the freq they are rolling it out on is much lower, so much better building penetration.
The reason they dont do that with WiMax, is b/c now at this point LTE has been adopted by VZ and in turn has gained a lot of steem form suppliers making the costs to rollout LTE equipment much less than it was when they initially rolled WiMax with Clearwire.
Thanks for your reply, I am educated in physics and had forgotten about your frequency point. However I had read that LTE has the potential for up to 80mbit, where Wimax is much lower. Do you know whether that information is false or not?
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Thanks for your reply, I am educated in physics and had forgotten about your frequency point. However I had read that LTE has the potential for up to 80mbit, where Wimax is much lower. Do you know whether that information is false or not?
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If they were to use more spectrum speeds could be much higher but right now Clearwire is only using 10MHz channels. LTE Advanced/WiMAX 2 are also supposed to speed it up significantly but I'm not even sure if they've finished writing the standards for it yet.
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One hour I'm at 800kbps. The next I'm at 2200. Then 200. Then 600. What the hell is going on? Its been like this for weeks. Are they messing with the towers? Where do you guys get your sprint news to know when this stuff is happening. It just seems so eratic. Thoughts?
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When the speeds are so low, its because all the Hipsters are on break from/at starbucks
Sad Panda said:
I knew a small amount about their network upgrade, specifically via my interest in 4g (mainly LTE), because I was lied to when I opened my sprint account about 4g availability. Here in Arizona there is next to no 4g [both indoor and outdoor] coverage, and none in my city despite it being the 5 th fastest growing city in the us. Their current Wimax roll out is/was despicable, and an absolute failure. LTE has more potential than Wimax, from the way I hear it the evo 3D should be capable of either frequency spectrum with just a software update (can't verify the accuracy of that fact), but some indoor Wimax would be a huge upgrade for me!
The detail in the article you posted made it an exciting read, thanks for doing the dirty work and finding and posting this little glimmer of hope!
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I assure being one the fastest growing cities means nothing to them at this time... It's when you hit the top of the largest cities it matters to them... Cape coral is close to me, used to be the number 1 fastest growing city in America for awhile...
4g is pretty close to me about an 1hr-1.5hr drive to get a connection to 4g, they just can't get the work done to these towers fast enough lol, even in the huge cities the 4g coverage sucks.
Hopefully we will see some speed boosts soon...
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Towers around Depew, NY (3G Speeds)
Download: 950 to 1600 kbps
Upload: 600 to 800 kbps
The one right up the street from me that they "fixed"
Download: 114 to 360 kbps
Upload 550 to 700 kbps
Also apparently i'm now covered by LTE (shakes fist at WiMAX)
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When the speeds are so low, its because all the Hipsters are on break from/at starbucks
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LOL!!
My Home in Aston feels like it has full support as the WiMax & 3G are extremely high (2.5Mbps 3G & 12-15Mbps 4G) In the city of Philadelphia its wonky as hell during the peak hours.
Extremely jealous of you fellas with not only 4g, but fast as balls 3G. My 3G speed is horrible. Tmobile was so much better and faster. They at least had fast 4g.
Just saw this on twitter from android police.
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Just saw this on twitter from android police.
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That is good news! I'm due to call back a higher up in sprint about my horrible so called premium data that is 1X standards.
I get 913 down and 514 up on 3G
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I just got 1mb down, and 1.5mb up on 3g. Not home right now but that's about double my normal home speed.
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I live in Minnesota, there is Wimax coverage in the cities that I use a lot.
I know Sprint is rolling out new tower updates, but I don't think they have done jack squat in Minnesota.
I currently have a Epic 4G Touch with AOKP, my 3G speeds are horrible everywhere. I would be lucky if 3G speeds are .20 Mbps. The saving grace is Wimax that I use everyday for work. My work internet is slow, so I tether my Wimax, speeds are decent.
With that said, the EVO 4G LTE isn't even Wimax compatible, and I have no clue when they are going to start 3G tower upgrading let alone LTE here in Minnesota.
What's the point of having a data plan if I have to be on Wifi to use the phone effectively.
So to you owners without LTE and their new 3G, how are you handling it?
having this same dilemna. 3g is so so in my are. usually b/t 200-400kbps.
We have wimax but its not all that great either. I love my epic touch 4g but im just ready for something new. Decisions.
I love this EVO & I have good 3G.
If you have WiMAX now, dismal 3G & you aren't in a 1st, 2nd or pending wave NV/LTE region (don't focus on the city name on the rollout list, if you're near the city, you're fine) I say no.
Test the EVO LTE's speed in store as it runs 3G better, just to get an idea on if you could tolerate that performance, vs judging from your existing phone.
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I have no WiMAX in my area so LTE won't matter to me. 3g is fast enough around here for when I'm not on WiFi.
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I also live in Minnesota and my 3g speed doubled from my og evo
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Usually I am near a wifi so this isn't a big deal for me when wifi actually works. 3g is good enough to stream pandora and check email on the road.
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its worth it. get the phone if you can.
i leave wifi on. this phone utilizes wifi so well and is so energy efficient compared to the evo 4g. im amazed. so i just leave it on.
3g gets turned on when im away from the house.
by the looks of it, lte round 2 rollout will probably be sooner than i thought. hopefully.
Well the short of it is if you truly use wimax every day and you are not in one of the first cities then keep your current phone...otherwise you'll have to go to wifi or suffer through the 3G in your area...
btw here is Mn NetworkVision rollout...http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...in-network-visionlte-in-the-2nd-half-of-2012/
I was told 2 weeks ago that Memphis will have LTE in Oct
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I was told 2 weeks ago that Memphis will have LTE in Oct
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click that link i posted up there....they start this month supposedly and have first sites live in July sometime....now if they do the same LTE blockout like they are right now till they are ready with more sites to bring on at once who knows...
My 3G coverage is perfectly fine here in Colorado Springs. I wasnt using wimax on my OG EVO anyway so Im not missing anything. And actually I feel like this phone is having a better signal on 3G than my OG was.
Yes.
I live in Minnesota (Eagan) and here are my recent results from a few minutes ago. With my nexus s 4g I never broke 1.2Mbps down and up was usually around 350 kbps. Something is better about the 3g in this phone. I can't believe the up results.
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I live in Minnesota (Eagan) and here are my recent results from a few minutes ago. With my nexus s 4g I never broke 1.2Mbps down and up was usually around 350 kbps. Something is better about the 3g in this phone. I can't believe the up results.
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thank you for that info, i live in columbia heights and the 3g is so bad here its a joke. Would you say the call quality (dropped calls etc) is better vs your old device? And do we have anyone from the north metro reading here? My kid lives in coon rapids/ blaine area. I was wondering if the new evo is better there also.
woody296 said:
thank you for that info, i live in columbia heights and the 3g is so bad here its a joke. Would you say the call quality (dropped calls etc) is better vs your old device? And do we have anyone from the north metro reading here? My kid lives in coon rapids/ blaine area. I was wondering if the new evo is better there also.
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I've only made two calls and they were both good. I discovered during the calls the tiny microphone hole is easy to cover with my pinky though which annoyed me but i will get used to that. I never had problems on my old phone with dropped calls though.
No.
Is it even worth it if you live in an area without LTE anytime soon?
No. After the newness wears off, it's just another late model Android phone. Seriously.
If it were on VZW's LTE network, it would be worth all the accolades. But on Sprint's third world data network, it's no faster than any other smartphone on their network. Sure apps open quickly, but need data? Get ready for the scrolling progress wheel.
I have one. It's a pleasure to hold, but I use my Droid 4 when I leave the house. It's world's faster than the EVO.
A separate question is, why would anyone be on Sprint, if not for price, these days? I know that's why I'm on it.
(And for the masses 'satisfied' with 3g - Sprint has you right where they want you. I'm sure there were lots of people on dial-up saying "I don't need DSL" 15 years ago... The difference is night and day.).
Figured they'd flip the switch in Atlanta already, in time for their delayed launch. No such luck!
If you want the best phone on the market today that will function until 800 LTE arrives then this phone is for you. This phone IMHO future proof until 2014 LTE roll out. SVDO, and HD voice smooth fluid software interaction, excellent appearance screen wise, build quality, and weight makes this the best Android phone on the market.
This is my opinion from ny handling it yesterday in a Sprint store. SGIII may be faster, but other than "SPEED" the EVO 4g LTE has feature thatmost people will love to have. The number one feature that it has is SVDO, number two HD voice future hardware built in.
If I needed a phone today even if it didn't have LTE this is the one to have! If I don't need a phone I could wait, and I am waiting, but I am leaning towards this and in a few weeks if there are no bugs.......my Photon in immaculate condition is out!
I would say it depends on the way you use your phone.
If you use data intensive apps like I do (netflix, plex, youtube) then no.
I use wimax multiple times thru out my day so I would sorely miss it.
I pr-ordered one from Wirefly because $119 was just too good to pass up.
But cancelled later on because I would be kicking myself after newness wore off and I was stuck on 3G for thenext couple of months until LTD is expected to be launched in NYC.
I say yes for obvious reasons but the one fun fact about this phone is.....You can talk AND surf the web at the same time on 3G!! I see people get upset about the fact they don't have LTE yet or it's not coming to their area anytime soon. Lest we forget my fellow EVO users we did the SAME EXACT THING when the OG EVO was released. WiMax was a big deal but at least LTE is rolled out already in some places. WiMax was non-existent at that time and that didn't stop any of us from pre-ordering and waiting in line for that breakthrough in technology. This phone is no different. It's cutting edge technology and, TRUST ME, when you use the phone and see that screen, you're not gonna give a rat's bottom about LTE. You would, like me, stick to WiFi or 3G and be cool with it until LTE comes to your town the same way we did with WiMax. This phone is light years ahead of the OG and the speed and functionality are unmatched, in my opinion. I find a new feature everyday and I've had my phone since the 25th. I say try it and feel it out. You don't like it return it for your money within the Return Policy and wait for the next big thing. You have nothing to lose and you can see for yourself if you wanna keep it or wait. I can almost guarantee once you use it, it's almost impossible to go back to the OG.
According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/fastest-mobile-networks
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
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According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405617,00.asp
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
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Those are all lies! Sprints 3G Speeds work great at 3am and nobody is on it!
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Those are all lies! Sprints 3G Speeds work great at 3am and nobody is on it!
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Its sad, but true.
Not only does Sprint's speeds suck; but also like to charge every customer an extra $10 amonth for a 4g service that is only in a handful of areas. I live in Rancho Cordova (Sacramento Co.), CA and we've never had 4g. Sprint also had no intentions of updated my area with 4g, but still more then happy to charge all of us for it.
WUESTSIDER X!
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Not only does Sprint's speeds suck; but also like to charge every customer an extra $10 amonth for a 4g service that is only in a handful of areas. I live in Rancho Cordova (Sacramento Co.), CA and we've never had 4g. Sprint also had no intentions of updated my area with 4g, but still more then happy to charge all of us for it.
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The $10 fee isnt for 4G. Its for "premium data"...having the worst speeds must be the "premium data".
I didn't read the whole article but it seems like those results are for memphis :-\ I think we all know speeds are different depending on the area you're in. Sprint definitely isn't the fastest in my area, but it works for me. And if sprint was really that bad why in hell did you guys renewed your contracts anyways?
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According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405617,00.asp
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
If this has been posted before....my bad...and delete thread...
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ZERO reason to have any doubts about speeds improving once NetworkVision is deployed in your area....Solves 99% of the issues, which the main one is capacity on the backhaul of the sites....that upgrade alone yields most problems fixed for the capacity troubled areas.....which id venture to say is most....
can't expect much from using bundled T1 lines for backhaul now a days....the equipment being deployed at the cell site's and also switch centers is state of the art stuff...watch the videos fromt he ALU presentation if you want. some BIG changes coming...
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I didn't read the whole article but it seems like those results are for memphis :-\ I think we all know speeds are different depending on the area you're in. Sprint definitely isn't the fastest in my area, but it works for me. And if sprint was really that bad why in hell did you guys renewed your contracts anyways?
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Yes yes, well said. People act so surprise when they see something like this, old freaking news about sprint. Sprint might be garbage now but it work in my area well and same goes with other carrier, good in some area and not so great in others. My main thing about sprint is not about their current speed of data but the unlimited plan which save us a lot of money.
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According to PC Mag.com Sprint has the worst...at times where Metro PCS and Sprint has coverage in the same area...Metro PCS has faster data speeds....This is pretty pathetic...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405617,00.asp
I undertstand network vision is supposed to make Sprint service and data speeds better...but at times I have my doubts....
If this has been posted before....my bad...and delete thread...
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You use........ Too many........... Periods.........
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You use........ Too many........... Periods.........
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Yah I do that often
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ZERO reason to have any doubts about speeds improving once NetworkVision is deployed in your area....Solves 99% of the issues, which the main one is capacity on the backhaul of the sites....that upgrade alone yields most problems fixed for the capacity troubled areas.....which id venture to say is most....
can't expect much from using bundled T1 lines for backhaul now a days....the equipment being deployed at the cell site's and also switch centers is state of the art stuff...watch the videos fromt he ALU presentation if you want. some BIG changes coming...
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I hope so.
shook187 said:
I didn't read the whole article but it seems like those results are for memphis :-\ I think we all know speeds are different depending on the area you're in. Sprint definitely isn't the fastest in my area, but it works for me. And if sprint was really that bad why in hell did you guys renewed your contracts anyways?
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The results are for multiple areas....
Edit: I see what you are talking about. I posted the correct link in the op. The article has multiple cities tested.
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Yah I do that often
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Whenever someone does that, I can't help but feel like they're all gloomy and dark and depressing. Haha
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i don't know about you guys but i pull a steady 2 mpbs on my 3g just about anywhere in my town. and my town hasn't even gotten the network vision yet
PhxkinMassacre said:
i don't know about you guys but i pull a steady 2 mpbs on my 3g just about anywhere in my town. and my town hasn't even gotten the network vision yet
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Thats nice. I hope I had that in my area...
Looks pretty fast to me
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And for mr.slaughter.....
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Looks pretty fast to me
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Yea...but even with Sprint LTE its slower than ATT or Verizon LTE...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405608,00.asp
I didn't need an article to know sprint's 3g is awful.... I just am dealing with it for now in the hopes LTE actually pans out. I also hope it functions a whole lot better than 4G wimax did (i.e. if you were on the move you could never keep a 4g wimax signal).
Consistantly I get around .8-1.6 here and sometimes even around 2.2 which is definitely nice IMO but either way I am happy with sprint personally and dont have any reason to complain. I am tired of seeing "My Carrier Sucks" all by itself when it SHOULD read, "My Carrier Sucks For ME In MY Area". Sprint isn't a big carrier because they suck, the have obviously done certain things right and made SOME people happy like me. Not meant to be mean but it all boils down to your experience and area to be honest.
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I haven't found them to be any slower than my friends Verizon 3G speeds.
Sprint's 3G network is painfully slow. Its old 4G WiMAX network has been punted over to Virgin and Boost. But if our exclusive test results hold up, its new 4G LTE network will be competitive with AT&T's and Verizon's.
We got early access to Sprint's network at five locations in the Atlanta, Georgia area during the week of June 11, and ran speed tests on a specially provisioned LG Viper 4G LTE phone using both our own Sensorly speed test app and the Ookla Speedtest.net app.
Sprint's results are fast, although they're not as fast as the peak speeds we've seen from AT&T and Verizon. That's because Sprint is using 5MHz channels rather than the 10MHz channels the other carriers are using in most cities. If you compare Sprint's speeds to four cities where AT&T is using 5MHz channels (Charlotte, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Raleigh), Sprint is extremely competitive.
It's not a totally fair comparison, of course. For our Fastest Mobile Networks project, we tested ordinary retail phones on loaded networks, and we didn't tell the carriers where we were going in advance. For this Sprint test, we used phones tuned by Sprint's engineering team at pre-approved locations. They knew we were coming.
Sprint's LTE Speeds: The Results
Sprint's LTE network is faster than its old WiMAX network. It's a bit faster than T-Mobile's HSPA+ 21, and it's about 25 times as fast as Sprint's 3G network. But it doesn't quite match AT&T's and Verizon's LTE speeds in cities where they have more spectrum.
Sprint execs have said they're aware of this, and that the carrier is going to be focusing on providing a great average experience in loaded conditions rather than very high peak speeds. I've been hearing this from several wireless carriers recently: It's better to have a high floor than a high ceiling. Users notice when connections drop down to 1Mbps much more than they notice the difference between 8 and 15Mbps.
A consistent experience is really what people want, of course, but we'll have to see if Sprint pulls it off when it actually has a retail network.
Now to the numbers.
Sprint LTE Speeds
The two speed tests we use return very different results; it's just the way they were designed. Ookla's test tends to give faster numbers because it eliminates some slower results and runs multiple transfers simultaneously. Sensorly's test runs one stream at a time and don't eliminate any results. We consider the Sensorly test more realistic because smartphones usually queue large data transfers rather than running them in parallel; Web pages do consist of multiple small transfers in parallel, but time-to-first-byte plays a larger role there than peak speeds.
That said, what you want to look for with any test is relative results, not absolute numbers. What matters is how different networks compare on the same test.
Using the Sensorly software at four of our locations, we got average download speeds between 9 and 13Mbps, which is similar to the speeds in AT&T's two faster 5MHz channel cities but slower than you see in its 10MHz channel cities. Sprint's peak download speeds hit 26.5Mbps down, which is as much bandwidth as anyone really needs. That's also similar to AT&T's peak speed in a solid 5Mhz city like Raleigh, where we got a 27.8Mbps peak on AT&T.
Sprint's download speeds were comparable to speeds on Verizon, which uses 10MHz channels, but Verizon also has many more people using its LTE network.
Uploads were on the slow side, but here's where the test method really becomes an issue. Using our Sensorly test we saw upload speeds averaging 2.19Mbps, once again comparable to AT&T's 5MHz cities and faster than T-Mobile's HSPA+ or Sprint's old WiMAX 4G, but slower than Verizon. The network hit 2.97Mbps for peak uploads.
But I'm pretty sure both Sprint and AT&T are tuning their networks to respond better to multiple simultaneous upload streams, because when Ookla tested four streams at once, we saw 7.4Mbps up on Sprint. AT&T has shown a similar difference in upload speeds when tested with the Ookla software in the past.
Sensorly vs. Ookla
What This Means for Sprint
Sprint has already been selling LTE phones for a while. The LG Viper 4G, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and HTC EVO 4G are all LTE-enabled. The carrier has stopped selling WiMAX phones to its postpaid customers, so it's LTE or nothing at the moment.
Sprint has said it will launch LTE in six cities around midyear (that's the end of this month). Those cities are Atlanta, Baltimore, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, and San Antonio. The rest of Sprint's network will get LTE by 2014, but Sprint isn't saying who'll get it when, between now and then.
This phase of LTE is just the first step in a long roadmap for Sprint, which includes increasing channel sizes using future LTE-Advanced technology and supplementing its speeds with Clearwire's upcoming LTE-TDD network.
Hopefully, the arrival of LTE will also take some pressure off of Sprint's 3G network. In our nationwide tests, Sprint's 3G system seemed hammered, with half the average download speed of Verizon's 3G. (The two carriers use the same technology.) That will help Sprint iPhone owners with their 3G-only devices.
But not knowing when LTE is coming is a big problem for Sprint customers. The carrier's 3G network is the slowest of the major wireless providers, and even high-end phones like the new EVO 4G LTE are stuck on 3G for now. Sprint has to provide more clarity quickly on where LTE is rolling out or risk losing high-end smartphone users to LTE networks that actually exist.
Source:http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405675,00.asp
This is great news that they can keep up with Verizon and at&t but the real issue is waiting for them to launch it in our area. In my opinion Sprint shouldve already started shutting down iden for the spectrum and using bigger channels instead of just 5x5. Lightsquared wouldve really came in handy rite now, they might actually get a chance to build out if they can succed with the spectrum swoop from the DoD. ADD in Clearwire TD-LTE in another 2 years and possibly Dish, in 3 - 5 years Sprint has a good chance to move up the ladder.
Hopefully the speeds stay the same when it's more than just a few test users on it.
they won't, have you seen recent Verizon lte speed tests? in slc they are down to 4-5 mb/s matching Wimax in that city. its all about how many users are connected
NewZJ said:
they won't, have you seen recent Verizon lte speed tests? in slc they are down to 4-5 mb/s matching Wimax in that city. its all about how many users are connected
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Where is slc?
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Where is slc?
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Salt Lake City???
NewZJ said:
they won't, have you seen recent Verizon lte speed tests? in slc they are down to 4-5 mb/s matching Wimax in that city. its all about how many users are connected
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Yeah, thats what the Razr Maxx's LTE speed is like in CC Philly.
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If Sprint could provide 75%+ of their subscribers with 4-6Mb/s down and 1-2Mb/s up and keep it unlimited for the same price as we're paying now, I bet the vast majority of their users would be completely satisfied.
mike.r.olson said:
If Sprint could provide 75%+ of their subscribers with 4-6Mb/s down and 1-2Mb/s up and keep it unlimited for the same price as we're paying now, I bet the vast majority of their users would be completely satisfied.
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Totally agreed.
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bish i've been testing lte for weeks just not recently lol
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mike.r.olson said:
If Sprint could provide 75%+ of their subscribers with 4-6Mb/s down and 1-2Mb/s up and keep it unlimited for the same price as we're paying now, I bet the vast majority of their users would be completely satisfied.
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I agree with this, but feel that I'd be in the 25%
After having my local 3G upgraded and averaging 2-2.5 down, I'd be severely disappointed with just 4-6 on LTE.
I am hopeful that the speeds in Houston are much higher I was pulling 7-10 on WiMAX on a slow day. Also WiMAX is still live and well on my OG EVO.
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My mother in law is shelling out an extra $30/month per line (so she thinks) for at&t 4G but they all have iPhones lmao X-)
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RobertBohannon said:
My mother in law is shelling out an extra $30/month per line (so she thinks) for at&t 4G but they all have iPhones lmao X-)
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Lmao
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Verizon LTE is over-rated, speed wise. I live in the Capital of NYS and we have full LTE coverage here, and with a population of 100K and full bars of LTE service, we get 3-6 MB down consistently on our work phones.
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Verizon LTE is over-rated, speed wise. I live in the Capital of NYS and we have full LTE coverage here, and with a population of 100K and full bars of LTE service, we get 3-6 MB down consistently on our work phones.
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Look at it this way. You are about two megabits faster than you were on a 3G phone consistently. Especially in that much of a population saturation area. I'm not saying it is great. But, it has to do a decent job. I am in a 3G area here in MA and I can stream Pandora over my tablet and surf the web and read emails while connected to my WiFi teather. It could be better, but at.least I have this. But, if you did have an LTE phone before most people did. And got the chance to enjoy it before the masses did at the same time. I do feel for you. It is like being teased with a carrot and then having it yanked away. And it would be understandable to be upset at that. Any way, enjoy it and use it wisely my VZW brethren. You to my sisters. Lol!
To those over on the Sprint network. Good luck. Heck, I may have to jump over to you guys side if VZW tries to pull my unlimited Data from me. Very scary stuff people. To those with unlimited data. I say hold on for dear life. Don't make any mistakes along the journey. Lol!
I wish I could say that I am high or drunk writing this. But tis not why I am this way. It is for a fact that a lack of sleep is playing its part. And playing me like a violin so very well. Good night lovers of XDA.
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The unlimited Data is the only reason I'm with Sprint I regularly use 6 gigs of 3g and 3-4 gigs of 4g. My highest useage was when I found A torrent and music paradise in the market. I had 14gigs of data that month and sprint didn't say anything. A buddy of mine has AT&Ts old unlimited plan and he used 8 gigs two months in a row and got a letter about AT&Ts fair use policy stating they would throttle his speed if he continued that kind of useage. WTF?
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I sure do wish that I had some 4g wimax sometimes. This phone was suppose to have awesome 3g speeds but mostly it just sucks ass. What do ya'll think. Im in Plano Texas north of Dallas Texas. Really pissing me off. I think Sprint should go take out a loan and get LTE GOING.
3g sucks ass down here mostly but LTE is great, only going to get better as network vision continues. ive yet to read anything on this phone that said it was supposed to have awesome 3g speeds. a phone cant magically make sprints under capacitied 3g network suddenly great.
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3g sucks ass down here mostly but LTE is great, only going to get better as network vision continues. ive yet to read anything on this phone that said it was supposed to have awesome 3g speeds. a phone cant magically make sprints under capacitied 3g network suddenly great.
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
What would make this phones 3g speeds on this device any different from any other device? I mean a crappy network is a crappy network. If anything I think it has worse speed and reception than my photon. But that phones radios where awesome.
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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That my friend, is a Marketing tactic called False Advertising.
Sprint is working on upgrading their network. 3G speeds and coverage will get better as they continue their "Operation Leapfrog" aka "Network Vision" rollout. The EVO LTE cannot connect to WiMAX. LTE and WiMAX are two different 4G technologies.
Mines an EVO WiFi phone! I got the special edition with broken radios. I'm trading it in for a normal 4G LTE on Wednesday when they get a shipment in. Until then, I'm rocking a Samsung Exclaim!
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cswtexas9 said:
Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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They didn't say the phone would cause that, they said that their Network Vision upgrades would. Which they are still working on.
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there's verizon 4g lte out in my area at I really wish I could roam onto -_-
sadly i dont think sprint will put wimax or LTE in my area for years to come
Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Haha right! I Mena LTE just started to roll out a couple of weeks ago. Dude you in Texas. I'm sure you have e a good chance of seeing it first over most in the country. Just chill. GIve it some time. Sooner or later things will work out.
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cswtexas9 said:
I sure do wish that I had some 4g wimax sometimes. This phone was suppose to have awesome 3g speeds but mostly it just sucks ass. What do ya'll think. Im in Plano Texas north of Dallas Texas. Really pissing me off. I think Sprint should go take out a loan and get LTE GOING.
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What part of Plano. I got brief spots of coverage at independence and Plano parkway and from coit up to Parker but that was all I was able to test.
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ms79723 said:
Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Lol
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cswtexas9 said:
Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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That my friend, is a Marketing tactic called False Advertising.
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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+1 Burn.
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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I dunno, It seems like 3G on my LTEVO sucks worse than normal. I just came from the GNEX and was getting respectable speeds (as respectable as sprint can get I guess) but right now I'm getting nothing above 20 Kilobytes/ps... I'm in Orlando, Fl so I'm hoping maybe they are working on showing us some LTE love right now to explain the recent drought in data.
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I dunno, It seems like 3G on my LTEVO sucks worse than normal. I just came from the GNEX and was getting respectable speeds (as respectable as sprint can get I guess) but right now I'm getting nothing above 20 Kilobytes/ps... I'm in Orlando, Fl so I'm hoping maybe they are working on showing us some LTE love right now to explain the recent drought in data.
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3g speeds have been the same in the last two years.... Actually longer than that.. . It's been pretty crappy.