Is possible for the Motorola Droid to install another Linux dristro for the webtop like at the ATRIX or the DROID Bionic?? Thanks!!
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striking titles are just to call the attention to my post only. If they are Wrong please tell me and I won´t do it again.
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No they don't, honestly people like to ignore those types of titles.
Did you know how many thought I spent about "if I really should risk my intelligence to open this thread "...?
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Sorry but someone can tell me if its possible in the Droid Razr to install another Linux distro replacing the webtop distro?
thanks!!
Yugernaut said:
Is possible for the Motorola Droid to install another Linux dristro for the webtop like at the ATRIX or the DROID Bionic?? Thanks!!
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In the development dection you can find info... possible to install gentoo or ubuntu as webtop - but not possible on ICS yet. Kholk - very talented developer - may port to ICS at some stage in future
To answer the question, there are threads on this forum and others about installing Ubuntu and Gentoo Linux in place of the stock webtop environment on Gingerbread ROMs. Motorola/Verizon (US) are pushing out the Ice Cream Sandwich update within a week, by the looks of it. ICS (so far) hasn't given the devs the same flexibility, as Motorola has de-linuxed their webtop environment.
Short answer: yes, but not at all.
Thanks ok I will wait for the ICS on the verizon razr, and I supose that the Verizon upgrade to ICS will incorporate webtop no?
Thanks again!
In ICS there is no Linux in Webtop. It becomes Android in tablet mode.
ooook! Thanks that´s more specific respond thak you very much!
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Ok, right off the bat I want to say that I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers/technology so I don't want to be babied when I ask this. I am new to Android, but not new to Linux by any stretch of the imagination. I didn't get this phone because Verizon advertised it as being a good phone, but because I knew that my first Android should be a beast.
Off of my rant, I was doing some research and I am willing to do some dev work or work with devs on on CM7 for the X2 directly or indirectly.
That being said, I know that CM7 is a ROM, but I was reading about kernels for CM7. Is this REALLY necessary? I know with a locked bootloader we can't do kernels yet, but do we need it? And if not? Where do I begin if I wanted to help?
I've done a decent (not too much, but decent) amount of work in this area (I've built more custom Linux kernels than fingers and toes on my whole family). But locked bootloaders and porting entire OS's is a bit over my head.
Long question short, are the CM kernels needed? or just recommended? and if not, where do you think we really need to begin?
(Sorry for the length)
Thank You, everyone.
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Ok, right off the bat I want to say that I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers/technology so I don't want to be babied when I ask this. I am new to Android, but not new to Linux by any stretch of the imagination. I didn't get this phone because Verizon advertised it as being a good phone, but because I knew that my first Android should be a beast.
Off of my rant, I was doing some research and I am willing to do some dev work or work with devs on on CM7 for the X2 directly or indirectly.
That being said, I know that CM7 is a ROM, but I was reading about kernels for CM7. Is this REALLY necessary? I know with a locked bootloader we can't do kernels yet, but do we need it? And if not? Where do I begin if I wanted to help?
I've done a decent (not too much, but decent) amount of work in this area (I've built more custom Linux kernels than fingers and toes on my whole family). But locked bootloaders and porting entire OS's is a bit over my head.
Long question short, are the CM kernels needed? or just recommended? and if not, where do you think we really need to begin?
(Sorry for the length)
Thank You, everyone.
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dragonzkiller said:
Ok, right off the bat I want to say that I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers/technology so I don't want to be babied when I ask this. I am new to Android, but not new to Linux by any stretch of the imagination. I didn't get this phone because Verizon advertised it as being a good phone, but because I knew that my first Android should be a beast.
Off of my rant, I was doing some research and I am willing to do some dev work or work with devs on on CM7 for the X2 directly or indirectly.
That being said, I know that CM7 is a ROM, but I was reading about kernels for CM7. Is this REALLY necessary? I know with a locked bootloader we can't do kernels yet, but do we need it? And if not? Where do I begin if I wanted to help?
I've done a decent (not too much, but decent) amount of work in this area (I've built more custom Linux kernels than fingers and toes on my whole family). But locked bootloaders and porting entire OS's is a bit over my head.
Long question short, are the CM kernels needed? or just recommended? and if not, where do you think we really need to begin?
(Sorry for the length)
Thank You, everyone.
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IMO be the first to say, job well done! Your belief you turned into reality, thank you!
Dee Ex Two - See Em Seven
Haha man was I confused until I read dzk's post date.
That being said, thanks again dzk!
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It got me too.
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Hahhaa, great thread find. Totally worth resuscitating. So glad Dzk made the mistake of buying the X2.
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Hahhaa, great thread find. Totally worth resuscitating. So glad Dzk made the mistake of buying the X2.
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Omg, that's awesome, had to do a total double take when I wondered who this was and was shocked! What a great journey from july 15th to now!
Let's see, a quick little bit of math, 24 month contract + July...
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That is a great journey. I'm loving my CM7 powered Droid X2.
Thanks dzk
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I recently came over to the DX2 from the DX where I was running CM7. Is there any way to get that on the deuce? Have been looking around and it seems that this Droid has been forgotten for the most part.
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Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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That would be sweet!
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Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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I do not want this to become a rumor because "coming soon" is a very bad way to put it. If this rumor is about my current project, I'm telling you right now that CM7 is not my current project. What I will tell you is that what I'm working on will help me or whomever with CM7 and any other ROM dev such as nitro and his Eclipse ROM. Until then, CM7 is only a dream that every X2 owner (including myself) see as a future goal and not as a current project.
Also, moderators can we get this move out of the dev section and into the general or Q&A section? Please keep this section clean for actual development related topics.
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I do not want this to become a rumor because "coming soon" is a very bad way to put it. If this rumor is about my current project, I'm telling you right now that CM7 is not my current project. What I will tell you is that what I'm working on will help me or whomever with CM7 and any other ROM dev such as nitro and his Eclipse ROM. Until then, CM7 is only a dream that every X2 owner (including myself) see as a future goal and not as a current project.
Also, moderators can we get this move out of the dev section and into the general or Q&A section? Please keep this section clean for actual development related topics.
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Its awesome to see you are working on anything....no.matter how big/small for x2
ANY work for x2 dev is good news....thanks for taking time out of your EXTREMELY swamping school schedule for us. Unbelievably appreciated whether something happens or not.(wish u had donate button...just to show appreciation for.time spent
And YES agreed ...wrong section for.sure.
Oh yeah to the OP....IF we had a way to have any CM(cyanogenmod).on X2. It would be in the sticky originally posted by booked....which.is.consistently updated/monitored by booked) trust that anything u need or want that is possible for X2 is there.
This is not development. Please don't post question threads in the dev section...
Moved to general.
I doubt CM7 will see the light of day on the X2 unless the boot loader gets unlocked.
Since CM7 uses a custom kernel, the kernel in the X2 cannot be replaced/modified until the boot loader gets unlocked, which in turn would unlock the kernel. That's the reason CM7 hasn't been released for the X2 since it uses a modified kernel, which is different from a modified ROM.
Until then, we have to use the current ROMS which are coming out that mainly remove bloat from Verizon, tweak the UI (such as the task bar) and do some other tweaks to the settings to help improve the performance and maintain battery life. I really like the Eclipse ROM from Nitro. He's doing an excellent job. There's also Liberty and Molten.
Things like overclocking are not possible until the kernel itself is unlocked. However, due to encryption and not having access to the key to do the decryption, this is next to impossible. From what I've read, the only way to get the bootloader unlocked is to have some developer from Motorola leak an unlocked boot loader/kernel image. I believe that's the only way it happened with the Droid X or some other Motorola phone.
As for Motorola's statement that they would unlock phones starting in October, that was allowed ONLY if the carrier allowed it. Verizon isn't allowing it. So, the only way to really get this to happen is to complain to Verizon who probably will just ignore the complaints anyways.
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I doubt CM7 will see the light of day on the X2 unless the boot loader gets unlocked.
Since CM7 uses a custom kernel, the kernel in the X2 cannot be replaced/modified until the boot loader gets unlocked, which in turn would unlock the kernel. That's the reason CM7 hasn't been released for the X2 since it uses a modified kernel, which is different from a modified ROM.
Until then, we have to use the current ROMS which are coming out that mainly remove bloat from Verizon, tweak the UI (such as the task bar) and do some other tweaks to the settings to help improve the performance and maintain battery life. I really like the Eclipse ROM from Nitro. He's doing an excellent job. There's also Liberty and Molten.
Things like overclocking are not possible until the kernel itself is unlocked. However, due to encryption and not having access to the key to do the decryption, this is next to impossible. From what I've read, the only way to get the bootloader unlocked is to have some developer from Motorola leak an unlocked boot loader/kernel image. I believe that's the only way it happened with the Droid X or some other Motorola phone.
As for Motorola's statement that they would unlock phones starting in October, that was allowed ONLY if the carrier allowed it. Verizon isn't allowing it. So, the only way to really get this to happen is to complain to Verizon who probably will just ignore the complaints anyways.
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I'm sorry to say that the only unlocked Verizon device is the XOOM. The DROIDX and all other Verizon Motorola devices are still locked. We can however use 2nd-init to essentially rewrite our root file system and restart the boot processes. This is how the DROIDX does it and that is how we will do it. The kernel cannot be replaced, that part is correct. But we can still get CM7 running. I have twice, but there were too many FCs to even begin calling it usable.
Sorry for posting I'm the wrong section. I'll just keep my questions to myself or stick with the more friendly boards.
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Sorry for posting I'm the wrong section. I'll just keep my questions to myself or stick with the more friendly boards.
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I didn't see anyone get mad at u lol.
U actually got off pretty easy from what I've seen other.people go thru for posting in wrong
forum.(I have seen some.nasty unnecessary stuff b4...when all that's needed is report to politely move thread..like was done here)
Don't be afraid to ask questions
Just ask em in Q&a or general
Don't be.offended.that our moderator arrrghhh moved your.post and requested that u only.post developments in dev section.
Hope to see more from u soon
I am really hoping for CM7 for the simple fact is I want my CM7 OG Droid Theme on my X2. I wish I was talented enough to port it.
I would like to see it for the simple fact I've NEVER used it lol.
So I guess I'm not itching for it like others because of that reason. Lol
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I'm sorry to say that the only unlocked Verizon device is the XOOM. The DROIDX and all other Verizon Motorola devices are still locked. We can however use 2nd-init to essentially rewrite our root file system and restart the boot processes. This is how the DROIDX does it and that is how we will do it. The kernel cannot be replaced, that part is correct. But we can still get CM7 running. I have twice, but there were too many FCs to even begin calling it usable.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was under the mistaken impression the DROIDX had been unlocked. The X2 is my first Motorola Droid, so I wasn't up on all the other hoopla except from what I read and thought I understood.
In any case, thumbs up for doing whatever development/testing I see you tweeting about.
any one know if the atrix community will be receiving a possible honey comb for the atrix 1?
Really? Honeycomb is only for tablets dude
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No need to be a douchebag, how about help this guy since obviously he got it mixed up with ice cream sandwich which basically is just honeycomb for mobiles.
anyway, for the tc, ics will be released for ATRIX, there just isn't a set date yet.
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No need to be a douchebag, how about help this guy since obviously he got it mixed up with ice cream sandwich which basically is just honeycomb for mobiles.
anyway, for the tc, ics will be released for ATRIX, there just isn't a set date yet.
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Where did you see that ICS will be released for the Atrix? I can't seem to find that anywhere.
No one he's assuming. But I kinda assume the same.
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If you look at this forum post on the Motorola site and read the answer the forum administrator gave which is a official employee. The outcome does not look good. He did not say no but read it for yourself. You will have to Google Attic Motorola Forum Ice Cream Sandwich. I can't post a link for some reason.
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If you look at this forum post on the Motorola site and read the answer the forum administrator gave which is a official employee. The outcome does not look good. He did not say no but read it for yourself. You will have to Google Attic Motorola Forum Ice Cream Sandwich. I can't post a link for some reason.
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I think you're looking for this: https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/508881#508881
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Any additional devices that will be slated to get ICS will be mentioned here: Motorola Android Software Upgrade News in the future. Doesn't mean that Atrix can't make the list. A decision just hasn't been made at this point.
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Granted that post was a month ago but I don't think anything has changed.
Well I just hope it happens
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The problem with Atrix and ICS...
... as far as I know, is the 'webtop' Laptop Dock accessory.
In order to ensure that ICS is a complete solution for Atrix, Motorola may have to invest time and resources on ensuring that people's webtops will continue to integrate and operate correctly after ICS has been deployed on the hosting handset.
Since they don't have that problem with their other handsets (although, does the new razr work with webtop, guys?), it seems they may decide to shaft everyone with an Atrix by skipping it's ICS upgrade.
There's always something with Motorola.
So if you're in love with the idea of ICS, you might want to consider a different handset.
Also, as noted, Honeycomb is tablet-android. The Atrix is running Gingerbread, the last release for handset-android before ICS.
Hope this helps.
Mind how you go.
Ics is already in development in the custom rom world. Will it get webtop functionality? Unlikely unless cm9 has that capability built in, which seems to be on the backburner for now. You can probably expect a stable build of cm9 (ics) on the atrix in a month or two, I'd guess.
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Have anyone been able to develop a working webtop for CM7 or even better CM9?
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at this time - no
but you can run Debian or Ubuntu
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at this time - no
but you can run Debian or Ubuntu
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On CM7 or CM9?
how do you run ununtu or debit?
can we run ubunto with HDMI mirroring?
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I too really want to know or at least be pointed to any threads that help install ubuntu on CM7.I am on weekly #4 and I keep reading that people got ubuntu working so I want to do it as well can someone please help point us to the correct threads? Thanks in advance.
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I too really want to know or at least be pointed to any threads that help install ubuntu on CM7.I am on weekly #4 and I keep reading that people got ubuntu working so I want to do it as well can someone please help point us to the correct threads? Thanks in advance.
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Me too, I want to upgrade to CM7 or CM9 but I need my WebTop for work.
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I too really want to know or at least be pointed to any threads that help install ubuntu on CM7.I am on weekly #4 and I keep reading that people got ubuntu working so I want to do it as well can someone please help point us to the correct threads? Thanks in advance.
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I am also interested in getting Ubuntu working on CM7 and any information or links would be great.
Thanks
+1 me too, just got a webtop and currently am on cm7 weekly 4 and I really do not want to go back to stock.
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+1 me too, just got a webtop and currently am on cm7 weekly 4 and I really do not want to go back to stock.
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wait what? you got a webtop lapdock or you got webtop working on cm7????
I have had an Atrix with LapDock since August.
My experience has told me no one understands how WebTop works. Atrix is still on Jaunty. If anyone had any idea how the thing worked we would at least be running Maverick like the other webtop phones.
I would be happy at this point for the Lapdock to work with landscape mirroring.
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Closest you're gonna get is maybe AirDroid, dl in Market, if it'll work with CM7/9.
Yes, you can run Ubuntu/Debian/BackTrack on any CM7, but you can't use bluetooth mouse cause drivers are broken. But on CM9 Ubuntu run smooth with exxternal mouse and now I am waiting for landscape mirroring. If you need I can make for you instruction how to run Ubuntu on your Atrix, but you can read the topic in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405454
you cannot run webtop on any version of cyanogenmod.
Running ubuntu on cm7 or 9 is not the same as running a full ubuntu webtop.
I dont know if webtop will ever run on cm, but I hope it does one day. I'm using darkside right now, a stock based rom so that I can continue to use my laptopdock with webtop.
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wait what? you got a webtop lapdock or you got webtop working on cm7????
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No, I meant I have to change to a moto GB based ROM now because cm7/cm9 do not support it
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Yes, you can run Ubuntu/Debian/BackTrack on any CM7, but you can't use bluetooth mouse cause drivers are broken. But on CM9 Ubuntu run smooth with exxternal mouse and now I am waiting for landscape mirroring. If you need I can make for you instruction how to run Ubuntu on your Atrix, but you can read the topic in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405454
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Do you know if this works for sure? have you tried?
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No, I meant I have to change to a moto GB based ROM now because cm7/cm9 do not support it
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I see well I would like to get a lapdock but im waiting to see if it will ever work on cm7 since going back to stock would really suck
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Closest you're gonna get is maybe AirDroid, dl in Market, if it'll work with CM7/9.
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Have you ever used webtop? I've used AirDroid, and it's no webtop
Actually, the closest you are going to get is if you can do something like this:
http://galaxytabhacks.com/galaxy-ta...tall-ubuntu-linux-on-galaxy-tab-10-1-tabuntu/
Crap I got my second webtop for my brother and we are still both mad bc even thos now cm7 offers lapdock landscape hdmi still now webtop dude I wish I culd code so I culd contribute......I miss webtop
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Do you know if this works for sure? have you tried?
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I am official tester and yes, it's fully functional. I have Gimp, OpenOffice and more usefull stuff.
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I am official tester and yes, it's fully functional. I have Gimp, OpenOffice and more usefull stuff.
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Before I go and blow up my stock image - does Ubuntu work with the docks, specifically the lapdock? I'd like a nice clean CM install with a light-weight linux. It looks like you're saying yes but I'm double checking.
I made a small search on NVIDIA and I think that this is the drivers for ICS
Tegra Android Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) OS Image for Tegra2 Developer Kit (Ventana)
This includes the Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) OS Image for Tegra2 Developer Kits. This image fully supports the debugging and profiling tools included in the Tegra Android Toolkit.
Windows
OSX
Ubuntu 32-bit
Ubuntu 64-bit
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here written that those drivers supports ICS and i hope it will help you
here the source on nvidia site
http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/tegra-android-developer-pack.html
do you think\know it will work with ICS now?
It's been discussed before, these aren't helpful.
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What would make this helpful is a member who actually knows 'WHY" its not helpful and spelling out the reason. Possibly linking another "Discussion" on the topic so when others pull this up on a search they don't leave empty handed and re post something similar. I vote MaxK47 do the honors since he seams know better already lol. Thanks very much .
I think these can't help.
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I think these can't help.
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It's a very detailed answer! If you are not able to explain why these drivers and DK are not useful in order to make a fully functioning ICS for Atrix I'd rather say that it's better to stay tight-lipped and don't make useless posts. Okay? Thanks.
These aren't useful because we need a 3.x.x kernel source to make these work.
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These aren't useful because we need a 3.x.x kernel source to make these work.
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Great! The answer is almost right, almost. These drivers can be useful for 2.6 kernel as well but there are many but....so....it would be better and it's possible but difficult and annoying enough to work out a 3.0 kernel based on original basic ICS kernel modified in order to be used on Atrix.
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What would make this helpful is a member who actually knows 'WHY" its not helpful and spelling out the reason. Possibly linking another "Discussion" on the topic so when others pull this up on a search they don't leave empty handed and re post something similar. I vote MaxK47 do the honors since he seams know better already lol. Thanks very much .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29549045#post29549045
Said by one of the top developers of our community.