Any issues with Reception/Baseband?? - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

I currently have the GS2E4gT and since this phone has come out I have had a lot of issues with signal strength and signal penetration in buildings. I have a lot of dropped calls and although I love the phone for everything else, the reception is killing me and I was hoping that even though the GS3 has the same hardware baseband, I was hoping maybe something in it was helping with signals.
Anyone with a GS3 having better signal strength when compared side by side with a GS2?? I do have a rooted phone but even when brought back to stock the reception is still horrible. The area I live in in Mass doesnt have the best of coverage but even going into Boston where I should get 4G Wimax on the Gs2, it still horrible, Providence also. IMO I dont really feel the need to go to the GS3 because I feel its more of just an upgrade, but if the phone is getting better reception I would surely grab one. Thx

M2Iceman said:
I currently have the GS2E4gT and since this phone has come out I have had a lot of issues with signal strength and signal penetration in buildings. I have a lot of dropped calls and although I love the phone for everything else, the reception is killing me and I was hoping that even though the GS3 has the same hardware baseband, I was hoping maybe something in it was helping with signals.
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Your best hope is probably with Sprint's planned LTE network upgrades, which haven't been launched yet anywhere. Dunno when it will come to New England markets. Bear in mind that if you buy this phone now, it will work on 3G service. But you will lose whatever Wimax coverage you now get in Boston. After the LTE-based 4G network lights up, it should outperform Wimax by a lot, with better 3G service too.

boomerbubba said:
Your best hope is probably with Sprint's planned LTE network upgrades, which haven't been launched yet anywhere. Dunno when it will come to New England markets. Bear in mind that if you buy this phone now, it will work on 3G service. But you will lose whatever Wimax coverage you now get in Boston. After the LTE-based 4G network lights up, it should outperform Wimax by a lot, with better 3G service too.
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If the LTE roll out is anything like Wimax in this area I will be right in the middle to not receive the service. My question was geared more towrds the 3G reception anyway. Since Wimax sucks here I dont even think about using it. I was just hoping there is some improvement with Sammys phones. I did have the Evo 4G and Evo 3D and never had an issue with those phones with 3G. I love the GS2 but yeah, 3G here is painful. Im hoping my local store gets them in so I can see for myself if there is any improvements with the reception. I know the stores have the Airraves running but I got the hook up to take it for a bit to test.

FYI, the unofficial but generally knowledgeable site S4GRU has a recent article indicating that the Sprint LTE rollout in the Boston market is two months or more away. That would be for an initial launch, with full buildout still to come in the next few months.
If I were you -- especially since you basically like your current handset -- before making a jump to any new Sprint contract I would wait and see how the new Sprint network performs. Then you could test the new LTE-based phone within your 14-day return period. When the new LTE network is complete, even locations that now get about 1 bar of 3G service -- roughly -100 dBm in signal strength -- should get quite acceptable 4G coverage. Almost all Sprint's current CDMA towers will be converted to LTE 3G/4G by the time the buildout is complete.

The Boston rollout is going to blanket most of Massachusetts east of Worcester. I also have some issues with coverage but not really in Boston.

I had an Sg2 and now the s3. I'm actually roaming in my house where sprint has always had an excellent signal even earlier today prior to switching to this phone. I will be calling sprint tomorrow. I'm very unhappy
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It seems most of the responses in this thread pertain to sprints network when the real question is does the sgs2 suffer from the radio issues that has plagued so many Samsung phones for years. I'd like to know this too my NS4G has terrible Wi-Fi and data strength and seems to drop calls more often. The radios are my biggest concern about the galaxy.
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It seems most of the responses in this thread pertain to sprints network when the real question is does the sgs2 suffer from the radio issues that has plagued so many Samsung phones for years. I'd like to know this too my NS4G has terrible Wi-Fi and data strength and seems to drop calls more often. The radios are my biggest concern about the galaxy.
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Good point. The hard thing about making sense of anecdotal reports is that there are so many variables. I do find the experience of shades333 reported above to be troubling.

My girlfriend also got an s 3 yesterday as well and is having the same signal issues as I am. While using her old phone htc evo her signal strength was double what she now gets on the s 3
There are no other explanations other then there is already an issue with the radio in the s 3. Otherwise the phone is definitely sweet however without a working phone it is pretty much useless. I will definitely be calling sprint today see if there are other issues as well with other users.
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shades333 said:
My girlfriend also got an s 3 yesterday as well and is having the same signal issues as I am. While using her old phone htc evo her signal strength was double what she now gets on the s 3
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How is she measuring that? If she is just looking at "bars," they are not comparable across devices. What about the performance on the phone at the same location? Is she also being kicked into roaming status like you reported?

boomerbubba said:
How is she measuring that? If she is just looking at "bars," they are not comparable across devices. What about the performance on the phone at the same location? Is she also being kicked into roaming status like you reported?
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I guess my question to start this all out wasnt one about getting too scientific about measuring the devices. It was more of just real world usage and how the phones reception was working.
If I had a S3 and was sitting in my house with my S2 along side and and did see that both phones have the same bars, then along comes my step son with his Evo 3D and he has fulls bars, I would be pissed, AGAIN!..
I really have a love hate relationship with Sammy phones, they look great, perform well but reception is a huge issue. For me its not so much WiFi, although dont ask my wife about hers, LOL, but its coverage. I constantly get a roaming signal and dropped calls. I know to some degree its the network but I also know its the phone. When I went to the Sprint event in Boston and spoke to Sammy supposed tech guy Chris, I asked him why the company chose to use the same baseband when they knew they had issues with it on other phones. I got the company tow line and just left frustrated because most of the people there that were suppose to know about the phone didnt know squat. They only knew what they were highlighting about the phone. I guess for some of the guests this was fine but for a person a little more interested in the function of the specs it was a very frustrating night, couldnt wait to leave.
I had hoped Sammy would have adjusted things and Im still holding out hope that the S3 doesnt run into the same issues with reception that the S2 did. Maybe its just my area.

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How is she measuring that? If she is just looking at "bars," they are not comparable across devices. What about the performance on the phone at the same location? Is she also being kicked into roaming status like you reported?
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im having reception issues at home... besides bar issues, my phone has gone into roaming with the sgs3, while with my evo 3D just earlier that same day, no roaming... im getting -100 through -102 dbm on the sgs3 at home... not sure exactly what it was with the 3vo but never had to check... though it was never real good at home, but never lost coverage or had to roam...
at work and everywhere else i'm fine...

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How is she measuring that? If she is just looking at "bars," they are not comparable across devices. What about the performance on the phone at the same location? Is she also being kicked into roaming status like you reported?
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Yes we were basically doing unofficial side by side comparisons. In fact she pointed out the signal bars to me first complaing she didn't have any when the other phone showed 4 bars. I do understand that they can be misleading but she to is being pushed into roaming. Thinking about trying Sprint only and checking if it's a false reading.
Very discouraging because I always root and tether, but with no signal or roaming signal it will be pointless. This certainly needs to be addressed
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shades333 said:
Thinking about trying Sprint only and checking if it's a false reading.
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It wouldn't hurt to update your PRL, too. Maybe they botched it in the version that shipped.

I have updated both profile and prl several times. Same crappy signal.
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I have a crappy signal at work 1 bar.
I just did a another prl update followed by profile update and sudenly got 3 bars in exactly same spot on the desk.
Before now, they were updated last night when i was activating them... not sure if it made a difference, but i will take what i can.

I am getting the exact same signal strength as my BB but showing fewer bars. If you look at the numbers in ABOUT PHONE however, they are nearly identical.

I am getting a little better data speeds than my Evo 4g, but not by much, the major difference in voice quality for me.

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I am getting a little better data speeds than my Evo 4g, but not by much, the major difference in voice quality for me.
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What about reception?
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Other phones I get two three bars consistently in this area of my house. Reception sucks. As you can see below, no bars and terrible signal strength. This is ridiculous. Had to shut roaming off because it would continue to go into roaming otherwise.
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Bye Photon/Sprint

Well I had the Photon for about 3 weeks, great phone..
Anyways, I just got tired of Sprints trash network, crap signal inside building..
Got terminated etf free and instantsly went to ATT and grabbed sgsii skyrocket.
all I can say is... why didnt I do this months ago. Speeds are never below 3 megs and **** gets done when you click enter.. no buffering issues either.
Dont even mention lte.. wicked fast and extremely stable.
In my extremely dense school where sprint wouldnt even get signal roaming I have 3/4 bars of lte.. just makes me cream myself..
this is just a small review that I suggest everyone that is bothered by these network problems.
inb4 flame
inb4 sprint dickriders
inb4 carecup is empty
Excellent. I'm very glad you're happy.
I'm different.
I'd rather deal with slower 3G speeds and iffy 4G coverage than have to count bytes each month. I don't want to worry about my usage. I know that my data usage is going to rise each month and I don't want that albatross around my neck.
For me, Sprint is better.
My signal is fine here, while AT&T's is terrible, if and when it exists at all.
Different areas get different results and nobody really cares.
Nice Phone. Very Nice phone. I question your comments on why, but you got a nice phone.
1. You already stated your in a dense area.
2. (and I have personally checked) All carriers on their map state, even with excellent strength, "May work inside some buildings"
3. I live in a dense area, my bars are usually packed? Sprint cannot control the mountains?
4. Hows the battery with that LTE?
Again, nice phone and no doubt better than most in the food chain, but.......JMO.
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Nice Phone. Very Nice phone. I question your comments on why, but you got a nice phone.
1. You already stated your in a dense area.
2. (and I have personally checked) All carriers on their map state, even with excellent strength, "May work inside some buildings"
3. I live in a dense area, my bars are usually packed? Sprint cannot control the mountains?
4. Hows the battery with that LTE?
Again, nice phone and no doubt better than most in the food chain, but.......JMO.
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1. dense I meant the school building. Im in Houston so no mountains.
2. Oh no lol my sprint phone couldnt hold signal worth of poop in a lot of buildings. Even wrapping my giant hands around it, the signal would drop a couple of bars
3. Ah well Sprint is great in my opinion if your not inside a building. (signal) data is only good in the very late night and early mornings or low population areas
4. I wake up at 6 everyday and it lasts till about 7-9 pm depending on the usage.
Draiko said:
Excellent. I'm very glad you're happy.
I'm different.
I'd rather deal with slower 3G speeds and iffy 4G coverage than have to count bytes each month. I don't want to worry about my usage. I know that my data usage is going to rise each month and I don't want that albatross around my neck.
For me, Sprint is better.
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I swallowed an ETF fee from verizon just to "stick-it-to-'em" when they switched to tiered data. I honestly appreciate the unlimited data and cheaper pricing and I'm a big fan of them and all... but sprints 3g is absolutely, pathetically insulting and painstakingly embarrassingly slow.
I dont live in a large market but verizon just fired up LTE in the area and my girls Bionic pulls down 14mbps. 14MBPS!!!! Thats faster than my home internet connection!
I just ran speed test on sprint, its in line with all my previous runs: 115kbps down.
One.
Hundred.
fifteen.
kbps.
I'm counting the days until my contract is up and sprint has better got some serious 4g improvement cause this is ridiculous.
*edit* the speeds I get with sprint dont even qualify as "3G." Wikipedia: To meet the IMT-2000 standards, a system is required to provide peak data rates of at least 200 kbit/s (about 0.2 Mbit/s) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G)
That is why also im doing the etf on sprint and going back to big red. 4gb data right now for 30the and i used maybe 1.5 amonth on sprint. Data speeds are horid here in omaha and im just done with it
You think y'all got it bad?
Just tasted and got 34.9KB/s. Go go US Cellular. Loovvveee the phone and prices, haaatteeee the speed and 5/gb limit.
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Yeah, wow im surprised im not getting flamed..
anyways, yeah I was with sprint since '99 .. well nextel.
It does suck though, having capped data, but ill get used to it
and your right with 200kb speeds, it wouldnt even be possible to go past like 2 gigs of data.
Also, the FCC denied Lightsquared to roll out lte.. so lte for sprint shouldnt be seen until at the least 2013
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Yeah, wow im surprised im not getting flamed..
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Lol....you almost sound disappointed.
It all depends on the area. Where I live Sprint doesn't have any 4g but the 3g speeds aren't too bad. Signal is actually pretty good no matter where I go. Sitting in my office right now I have full bars and hardly ever do I drop a call.
As for AT&T, not sure why anyone signs up with them. Possibly the worst customer service in the entire world not to mention they will steal your money if you are not looking (they have done it in the past and was proven in court). Have dealt with them numerous times over the years and I just can't do it. Sure, Sprint has their issues as well but nothing like AT&T. Just a terrible company.
I would of tried a new photon first
Good luck to u and ur sammy
The US is not rdy for gsm yet
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Im just waiting my time out. Sprint isnt going to get an ETF from me. My contract is up in 4 months and Im gone. Dont know where Im going.. maybe back to TMobile. From a customer service standpoint, they are the best Ive ever had by far.
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3g here in Iowa I have it 2 mbps
Before but no screenshot. I went from 200 to 2000 with 3g supercharged script
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Since the iPhone came out for sprint, and they singed up 700K new customers, the network has gone to CRAP. Not to mention getting rid of the premier program.
I'm an 8 year customer, and would bail in a heartbeat to a Verizon Nexus if it had unlimited internet.
But alias, they do not. I think sprint will fix things over this year, but it sucks in the interim.
Between the ICS development on the Photon, and my tethering... Sprint is hands down the way to go. I will grant you the fact that depending on your location... 3g speed is just plain bad. But between their 4g LTE rollout slated soon and my family plan with '6' lines... I will go with it.
Im counting days till when I can drop Sprint. I used to love the company and Ive been with them since 1998. However, Im tired of the slow data downloads, weak signal (which the tower is a half mile away form where I live) and what got me the most was the $10 extra for a 4g enabled phone without any 4g signals near me. I guess my friends always teasing me with their reliability on verizon doesnt help much either.
Mastajeff said:
Yeah, wow im surprised im not getting flamed..
anyways, yeah I was with sprint since '99 .. well nextel.
It does suck though, having capped data, but ill get used to it
and your right with 200kb speeds, it wouldnt even be possible to go past like 2 gigs of data.
Also, the FCC denied Lightsquared to roll out lte.. so lte for sprint shouldnt be seen until at the least 2013
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Now you are going to get flamed only because your last comment is inaccurate. Sprint is not relying on Lightsquared for LTE. This is not a Clearwire Wimax situation where Sprint relied entirely on Clearwire to provide 4G Wimax coverage.
Sprint is actually building out its own LTE network and Lightsquared was to be used for network hosting and be able to use part of the 1600 Mhz spectrum. All the Lightsquared situation is a lost revenue and spectrum capacity opportunity. In fact in your situation, Sprint is rolling out its LTE in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Kansas City, and Baltimore in June 2012 NOT 2013. Plus many markets will be announced later on this year by Sprint. Not only that but Sprint's new network vision tower infrastructure will improve 3G speeds dramatically with fiber/microwave backhaul.
I hope sprint improves it's 3g data before my contract is up and have some sort of 4g/lte in my area. I just lost my ns4g and looking to pick up a photon until then.
I know this thread is old but I wanted to just throw this out...
I switched to my friends extra Photon 4g he had lying around because my stupid girlfriend lost my phone. Anyways, I noticed that 3g speeds on THIS device is HORRIBLE. Before then I had the Evo3d and I was getting between 1.3-1.8 mbps on 3G. I've since then attributed the horrible 3g speeds to this phone just being bad with 3G and NOT Sprints network. Okay, maybe all those new iphone users may have slowed it down a bit but seriously, this phone makes me want to ****ing hurt someone.
For all those wondering if I tried tweaking my settings, I have. I did the whole ##3282## **** and messed around with the ip address's and the buffers and what have you but I still can't get passed the 800kbps mark. It actually sticks around 300-700 most of the time. This is totally unacceptable.
With that said, I don't blame Sprint and I actually like my $46 a month I pay for each line on my account (5 lines) WITH the extra 4g data charge. I can't really complain as my 4g is still fast. I'm just waiting to hop back on a HTC phone, the HTC Evo 4g LTE phone. I know the city where I'm currently at will not be getting lte anytime soon but I promise 3g speeds were never this horrible when I had my either my Evo 4g or my Evo 3d devices.
FU mopho 4g.
I just ETF with Sprint too (after 10 years with them) - Went and flash my photon with $40/mo using Metro, saved $40 a month and get the equivalent 3G service.
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Is it even worth it if you live in an area without LTE anytime soon?

I live in Minnesota, there is Wimax coverage in the cities that I use a lot.
I know Sprint is rolling out new tower updates, but I don't think they have done jack squat in Minnesota.
I currently have a Epic 4G Touch with AOKP, my 3G speeds are horrible everywhere. I would be lucky if 3G speeds are .20 Mbps. The saving grace is Wimax that I use everyday for work. My work internet is slow, so I tether my Wimax, speeds are decent.
With that said, the EVO 4G LTE isn't even Wimax compatible, and I have no clue when they are going to start 3G tower upgrading let alone LTE here in Minnesota.
What's the point of having a data plan if I have to be on Wifi to use the phone effectively.
So to you owners without LTE and their new 3G, how are you handling it?
having this same dilemna. 3g is so so in my are. usually b/t 200-400kbps.
We have wimax but its not all that great either. I love my epic touch 4g but im just ready for something new. Decisions.
I love this EVO & I have good 3G.
If you have WiMAX now, dismal 3G & you aren't in a 1st, 2nd or pending wave NV/LTE region (don't focus on the city name on the rollout list, if you're near the city, you're fine) I say no.
Test the EVO LTE's speed in store as it runs 3G better, just to get an idea on if you could tolerate that performance, vs judging from your existing phone.
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I have no WiMAX in my area so LTE won't matter to me. 3g is fast enough around here for when I'm not on WiFi.
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I also live in Minnesota and my 3g speed doubled from my og evo
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Usually I am near a wifi so this isn't a big deal for me when wifi actually works. 3g is good enough to stream pandora and check email on the road.
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its worth it. get the phone if you can.
i leave wifi on. this phone utilizes wifi so well and is so energy efficient compared to the evo 4g. im amazed. so i just leave it on.
3g gets turned on when im away from the house.
by the looks of it, lte round 2 rollout will probably be sooner than i thought. hopefully.
Well the short of it is if you truly use wimax every day and you are not in one of the first cities then keep your current phone...otherwise you'll have to go to wifi or suffer through the 3G in your area...
btw here is Mn NetworkVision rollout...http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...in-network-visionlte-in-the-2nd-half-of-2012/
I was told 2 weeks ago that Memphis will have LTE in Oct
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I was told 2 weeks ago that Memphis will have LTE in Oct
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click that link i posted up there....they start this month supposedly and have first sites live in July sometime....now if they do the same LTE blockout like they are right now till they are ready with more sites to bring on at once who knows...
My 3G coverage is perfectly fine here in Colorado Springs. I wasnt using wimax on my OG EVO anyway so Im not missing anything. And actually I feel like this phone is having a better signal on 3G than my OG was.
Yes.
I live in Minnesota (Eagan) and here are my recent results from a few minutes ago. With my nexus s 4g I never broke 1.2Mbps down and up was usually around 350 kbps. Something is better about the 3g in this phone. I can't believe the up results.
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I live in Minnesota (Eagan) and here are my recent results from a few minutes ago. With my nexus s 4g I never broke 1.2Mbps down and up was usually around 350 kbps. Something is better about the 3g in this phone. I can't believe the up results.
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thank you for that info, i live in columbia heights and the 3g is so bad here its a joke. Would you say the call quality (dropped calls etc) is better vs your old device? And do we have anyone from the north metro reading here? My kid lives in coon rapids/ blaine area. I was wondering if the new evo is better there also.
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thank you for that info, i live in columbia heights and the 3g is so bad here its a joke. Would you say the call quality (dropped calls etc) is better vs your old device? And do we have anyone from the north metro reading here? My kid lives in coon rapids/ blaine area. I was wondering if the new evo is better there also.
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I've only made two calls and they were both good. I discovered during the calls the tiny microphone hole is easy to cover with my pinky though which annoyed me but i will get used to that. I never had problems on my old phone with dropped calls though.
No.
Is it even worth it if you live in an area without LTE anytime soon?
No. After the newness wears off, it's just another late model Android phone. Seriously.
If it were on VZW's LTE network, it would be worth all the accolades. But on Sprint's third world data network, it's no faster than any other smartphone on their network. Sure apps open quickly, but need data? Get ready for the scrolling progress wheel.
I have one. It's a pleasure to hold, but I use my Droid 4 when I leave the house. It's world's faster than the EVO.
A separate question is, why would anyone be on Sprint, if not for price, these days? I know that's why I'm on it.
(And for the masses 'satisfied' with 3g - Sprint has you right where they want you. I'm sure there were lots of people on dial-up saying "I don't need DSL" 15 years ago... The difference is night and day.).
Figured they'd flip the switch in Atlanta already, in time for their delayed launch. No such luck!
If you want the best phone on the market today that will function until 800 LTE arrives then this phone is for you. This phone IMHO future proof until 2014 LTE roll out. SVDO, and HD voice smooth fluid software interaction, excellent appearance screen wise, build quality, and weight makes this the best Android phone on the market.
This is my opinion from ny handling it yesterday in a Sprint store. SGIII may be faster, but other than "SPEED" the EVO 4g LTE has feature thatmost people will love to have. The number one feature that it has is SVDO, number two HD voice future hardware built in.
If I needed a phone today even if it didn't have LTE this is the one to have! If I don't need a phone I could wait, and I am waiting, but I am leaning towards this and in a few weeks if there are no bugs.......my Photon in immaculate condition is out!
I would say it depends on the way you use your phone.
If you use data intensive apps like I do (netflix, plex, youtube) then no.
I use wimax multiple times thru out my day so I would sorely miss it.
I pr-ordered one from Wirefly because $119 was just too good to pass up.
But cancelled later on because I would be kicking myself after newness wore off and I was stuck on 3G for thenext couple of months until LTD is expected to be launched in NYC.
I say yes for obvious reasons but the one fun fact about this phone is.....You can talk AND surf the web at the same time on 3G!! I see people get upset about the fact they don't have LTE yet or it's not coming to their area anytime soon. Lest we forget my fellow EVO users we did the SAME EXACT THING when the OG EVO was released. WiMax was a big deal but at least LTE is rolled out already in some places. WiMax was non-existent at that time and that didn't stop any of us from pre-ordering and waiting in line for that breakthrough in technology. This phone is no different. It's cutting edge technology and, TRUST ME, when you use the phone and see that screen, you're not gonna give a rat's bottom about LTE. You would, like me, stick to WiFi or 3G and be cool with it until LTE comes to your town the same way we did with WiMax. This phone is light years ahead of the OG and the speed and functionality are unmatched, in my opinion. I find a new feature everyday and I've had my phone since the 25th. I say try it and feel it out. You don't like it return it for your money within the Return Policy and wait for the next big thing. You have nothing to lose and you can see for yourself if you wanna keep it or wait. I can almost guarantee once you use it, it's almost impossible to go back to the OG.

In depth comparison of 3g speed between OG Evo 4g and Evo 4g LTE

So I know alot of us are having issues with data speed on our Evo 4G LTE's
Im doing a comparison test using speedtest.net. Because I dont have both devices activated at the same time, I had to do it on one then activate the other and do it on that as well. The phones were placed in the exact same location using the exact same tower, which I am about 1000 feet from.
Evo 4g LTE
- signal strength 3 bars -94 dBm
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Evo 4g
- signal strength 4 bars -88 dBm
Now I know this information is slightly off because of the time difference but as you can see the speeds vary greatly. I am going to keep my Evo 4g LTE for a few more days to see if sprint does anything about this.
Things I have done to try and fix the speed issues:
-reset the phone
-reprovision the phone using my MSL
-update PRL
-update profile
-I tested another Evo 4g LTE and got the same dismal results
Sorry I forgot to mention the Sprint rep told me those speeds on the EVO 4g LTE are normal -_-
Wow that was sure "In depth"
In one of the posts on here, there's reference to some optimized network settings. I wonder if that will help.
I don't have the link handy, nor do I recall book marking/subscribing to it. Effectively, it optimizes tcp/ip settings, similar to what was done when going from dialup to dsl/cable; larger receive window buffers and a few other changes.
Sorry I started this thread comparing both phones from 4 different locations on different towers at the same time but for whatever reason none of the screen shots saved on my EVO 4G LTE and I had already switched phones out 4 times and was getting tired of it. But in 3 of the 4 locations the original EVO out shined the 4G LTE. Only in a parking lot with blue skys were the 2 devices similar in speed.
THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS! 3G IS USELESS FOR ME!
Ping 622 Download 89kbps
Returning this POS if sprint doesn't fix soon.
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Poor Connections - hardware or software?
Massiveian-
Thanks a ton for doing that. I've been keeping a running log of my speed tests on the LTE and was planning to re-initialize the OG 4G to make a similar comparison. You saved me the effort.
Basically your data is pretty clear that the LTE is running approximately 5X fslower than the old 4G on the same exact network setup.
This in my view brings the problem squarely bacj to the phone.
Do you think its fixable? H/W (antenna etc. ) or a S/W problem?
I'm kind thinking that the device and radio are designed for the supposed LTE network and that it's simply suboptimal running on the 3G network and the only thing that's going top work is emergence of LTE network, but based on the "4G" i'm not going to hold my breath.
I'm seeing that this is a real dealbreaker for a lot of users. I'v had the phone since pre-order so its now probably like 2 weks and basically I can't get alot of use out of it.
I'm dialing *2 for sprint in the am and going back to the evo 4g until this is resolved.
I'm frustrated because I got a galaxy [email protected] and it also had really bad connections, now I thought lte would be the one, but looks like I'm going to wait longer.
Mike
I have ****ty data speeds too. I dont ha r data to back it up but my phone sucks add if I am not on WiFi.
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That ping seems long even for the OG EVO getting 1+ MB/s. Is your GPS picking a server close to you?
For all the people with data connection problems, where are you located? There's been talk about 1st stage LTE rollout cities having their towers heavily worked on to push out LTE which I'm assuming which will affect our data connectivity.
I'm in San Francisco and have noticed horrible speeds in pockets of the city, but will be perfectly normal a few blocks over after switching towers. This makes me fairly certain it's a network issue and not phone issue.
Also, I work in San Jose which is a 2nd stage LTE city (weird how they split the Bay Area into 2 regions) and I've never seen data connectivity issues around there.
Damn those speeds suck, I switched my galaxy nexus for this phone cause I ended up getting better speeds, right now is late in Las Vegas so I'm getting almost 2mbps
This is what I got earlier in the morning
And this is my peak hour
If this speeds go lower I'm changing carriers I like this phone so I do want to keep it but I want to have the same speeds
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Although the phone itself is fantastic I really cant recommend it based on the data/network performance... and its really unsettling because the build quality is fantastic and I wanted them to really outshine the competition. I bought a case for it, stuck a screen protector on it, made sure it was all good and ready for the long haul and now I'm thinking of returning it.
Here in Dallas with a 3G speed of 157kbps, you just cant do anything with it. I have to feed off my local wi-fi in order to do anything data related with my phone (thankfully that signal is amazing, 12Mbps).
But now after trying multiple roms, multiple settings, different PRL's I have ran out of options and my 14 days are almost up, I guess the only thing I can do is return it and get my NS4G back until I can test other phones.
It's a ****ing shame, I love the capabilities of this phone, but the speed I'm getting is horrendous.
Here is my speeds from numerous days worth of testing.
My speeds were approximately 1/4 of what I was getting on my OG Evo until yesterday afternoon when I went into settings and manually updated my PRL. Now my speeds are comparable to my OG Evo.
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My speeds were also like most of you are reporting, 200k or so. Since having the "software reinstalled and phone re-activated" at the Sprint store this is what I get, same exact place I took prior tests.
Traceamount said:
My speeds were also like most of you are reporting, 200k or so. Since having the "software reinstalled and phone re-activated" at the Sprint store this is what I get, same exact place I took prior tests.
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Thank you for letting us know. There is a bunch of us ready to jump the gun and return the phone -I do not really want to, but we can't get locked on contract with this going on.-
Can you please provide us with updates on how it works on different locations?
Also, do you have any idea what kind of "reinstall" they did at the store? What if the ones of us who activated the phone by ourselves are the ones having the issue?
Thanks a lot,
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Thank you for letting us know. There is a bunch of us ready to jump the gun and return the phone -I do not really want to, but we can't get locked on contract with this going on.-
Can you please provide us with updates on how it works on different locations?
Also, do you have any idea what kind of "reinstall" they did at the store? What if the ones of us who activated the phone by ourselves are the ones having the issue?
Thanks a lot,
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All they do is use your MSL TO GET into the phone to provision it.
They did for me as well and did not work. I have also tried dojng this myself with no change
My speeds are so bad I hardly even do anything that requires data unless I'm connected to wifi.
Data seems much faster on the EVO LTE vs my photon and og EVO. Also, the ability to use 3G data while on the phone on the LTE is a HUGE benefit. Wait for the upgrades, speeds will increase for everyone on 3G as well as LTE.
Also, EVERY new phone has the same exact threads and discussions about how oh my god data is so much slower on this new phone -I'm gonna return it!! Well put the same phone on Verizon's PRL and it works just fine for data speeds. Point being, it's not the phone it's the network-WHICH IS BEING UPGRADED. wait for the upgrades or jump to Verizon.
My speeds are way faster than my OG and my 3D. But have only been so on PRL 24003. I know it's not supposed to work that way, but as soon as I change PRLs, my speed drop.
My speeds at home are the same or faster than I was getting on og EVO, however, the signal is worse. I might try roam control and force my phone on vzw network at work, then if sprint doesn't like it they can cancel my plan
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Same here in downtown Philly; 3G speeds were abysmal -- when it even connected to a network at all. Between this issue, the issue of WiFi not handing off to 3G (or going to/from roaming -- basically hand-offs were a coin-toss as to whether they'd work), and the random modem-crash reboots, I threw in the towel. The EVO LTE is back at Sprint and I've sadly gone back to my OG EVO. I suspect others will do the same.

My EVO 3G LTE PHONE

I sure do wish that I had some 4g wimax sometimes. This phone was suppose to have awesome 3g speeds but mostly it just sucks ass. What do ya'll think. Im in Plano Texas north of Dallas Texas. Really pissing me off. I think Sprint should go take out a loan and get LTE GOING.
3g sucks ass down here mostly but LTE is great, only going to get better as network vision continues. ive yet to read anything on this phone that said it was supposed to have awesome 3g speeds. a phone cant magically make sprints under capacitied 3g network suddenly great.
2k4mach said:
3g sucks ass down here mostly but LTE is great, only going to get better as network vision continues. ive yet to read anything on this phone that said it was supposed to have awesome 3g speeds. a phone cant magically make sprints under capacitied 3g network suddenly great.
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
What would make this phones 3g speeds on this device any different from any other device? I mean a crappy network is a crappy network. If anything I think it has worse speed and reception than my photon. But that phones radios where awesome.
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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That my friend, is a Marketing tactic called False Advertising.
Sprint is working on upgrading their network. 3G speeds and coverage will get better as they continue their "Operation Leapfrog" aka "Network Vision" rollout. The EVO LTE cannot connect to WiMAX. LTE and WiMAX are two different 4G technologies.
Mines an EVO WiFi phone! I got the special edition with broken radios. I'm trading it in for a normal 4G LTE on Wednesday when they get a shipment in. Until then, I'm rocking a Samsung Exclaim!
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Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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They didn't say the phone would cause that, they said that their Network Vision upgrades would. Which they are still working on.
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there's verizon 4g lte out in my area at I really wish I could roam onto -_-
sadly i dont think sprint will put wimax or LTE in my area for years to come
Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Haha right! I Mena LTE just started to roll out a couple of weeks ago. Dude you in Texas. I'm sure you have e a good chance of seeing it first over most in the country. Just chill. GIve it some time. Sooner or later things will work out.
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I sure do wish that I had some 4g wimax sometimes. This phone was suppose to have awesome 3g speeds but mostly it just sucks ass. What do ya'll think. Im in Plano Texas north of Dallas Texas. Really pissing me off. I think Sprint should go take out a loan and get LTE GOING.
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What part of Plano. I got brief spots of coverage at independence and Plano parkway and from coit up to Parker but that was all I was able to test.
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Let's just change the General section to Complaints.
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Lol
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cswtexas9 said:
Before the phone came out they said that LTE 3g speeds would be faster than the 3g speeds we had before.
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That my friend, is a Marketing tactic called False Advertising.
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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+1 Burn.
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Absolutely NOT a marketing tactic...sorry but if you paid attention to only the part you wanted to, then that is your own fault....they never said the 3G speed of this particular device would be faster than other devices 3G speeds....
They said they are in the middle of rolling out nationwide network overhaul that in turn will vastly increase the 3G speeds in the troubled areas where capacity is an issue...
Change is coming and coming soon...ppl need to just quit complaining about the speeds and data issues at this point or just move onto another carrier...If they somehow dont hit their projected completion of NV rollouts of end of next year(which initially was set to 2015!!) then I can understand hearing complaints then...till then though.....nothing has changed in years so why complain now?...suck it up and deal with what we all already knew, or move on and enjoy your tiered data plan....
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I dunno, It seems like 3G on my LTEVO sucks worse than normal. I just came from the GNEX and was getting respectable speeds (as respectable as sprint can get I guess) but right now I'm getting nothing above 20 Kilobytes/ps... I'm in Orlando, Fl so I'm hoping maybe they are working on showing us some LTE love right now to explain the recent drought in data.
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I dunno, It seems like 3G on my LTEVO sucks worse than normal. I just came from the GNEX and was getting respectable speeds (as respectable as sprint can get I guess) but right now I'm getting nothing above 20 Kilobytes/ps... I'm in Orlando, Fl so I'm hoping maybe they are working on showing us some LTE love right now to explain the recent drought in data.
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3g speeds have been the same in the last two years.... Actually longer than that.. . It's been pretty crappy.

Radios?

Okay, so I've got a Sprint M9, and it gets terrible signal. I had them swap it out back when I first got it thinking it was a defect, but the second and third have the same issue. I recently drove almost the entire east coast and very rarely did it go above two bars in LTE.
Now, with previous phones I'd just flash a new radio until I find one that gives me the best signal where I am. Doing that worked great on my AT&T HTC Vivid, Samsung Galaxy S3, and on Sprint, LG G2, Nexus 5, and a Moto X. All of the other Sprint phones get 3-4 bars of LTE (the actual numbers of the signal strength supported that as well, so it wasn't just that LG and Motorola report signal differently and require less signal per bar than HTC)
Does anyone know of any radios available for the Sprint m9? Having hardly any signal at all in one of the biggest wireless markets in the US makes little sense.
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Okay, so I've got a Sprint M9, and it gets terrible signal. I had them swap it out back when I first got it thinking it was a defect, but the second and third have the same issue. I recently drove almost the entire east coast and very rarely did it go above two bars in LTE.
Now, with previous phones I'd just flash a new radio until I find one that gives me the best signal where I am. Doing that worked great on my AT&T HTC Vivid, Samsung Galaxy S3, and on Sprint, LG G2, Nexus 5, and a Moto X. All of the other Sprint phones get 3-4 bars of LTE (the actual numbers of the signal strength supported that as well, so it wasn't just that LG and Motorola report signal differently and require less signal per bar than HTC)
Does anyone know of any radios available for the Sprint m9? Having hardly any signal at all in one of the biggest wireless markets in the US makes little sense.
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Why in the world would you swap out the phone 3 times for the same issue? Common sense would have told you after the second phone, the phone wasn't the problem. Is there a hot girl working at the Sprint store? (just kidding).
Are you on the latest radios? I live on the East Coast (NJ, Drive to work in NY. ) I hardly see the 3G icon anymore. Now as far as signal, are you relying on the 2 bars or the actual signal strength of LTE. Because LTE was 2 bars really isn't that bad. Is the data speed slow?
I swapped it twice. I am on my third m9. That was just one of the issues, but it was a big one. The first two also overheated so badly that they left a blister. I was past my 14 day return/exchange which sucks, because the m9 is reminding me of the vivid/holiday in that it's a flagship that's supposed to be amazing but it's really pretty disappointing.
My data speed is kind of garbage. I think the highest I've ever seen it go is 10mbit when I would usually pull 25mbit and up with my G2.
As for the newer radio, that's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm using the most recent TWRP and Bad Boyz rom, but aside from that everything else is stock. I'd love to upgrade my radio, and bring the firmware up to 1.40 so I can use 5.1 roms. The only problem is, all the 1.32 to 1.40 info I can find is specific to international m9 models or GSM.
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I swapped it twice. I am on my third m9. That was just one of the issues, but it was a big one. The first two also overheated so badly that they left a blister. I was past my 14 day return/exchange which sucks, because the m9 is reminding me of the vivid/holiday in that it's a flagship that's supposed to be amazing but it's really pretty disappointing.
My data speed is kind of garbage. I think the highest I've ever seen it go is 10mbit when I would usually pull 25mbit and up with my G2.
As for the newer radio, that's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm using the most recent TWRP and Bad Boyz rom, but aside from that everything else is stock. I'd love to upgrade my radio, and bring the firmware up to 1.40 so I can use 5.1 roms. The only problem is, all the 1.32 to 1.40 info I can find is specific to international m9 models or GSM.
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look here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-one-m9/development/ruu-sprint-htc-one-m9-1-32-651-17-t3073355
flash this one: 2.6.651.11 Modified Firmware from OTA, removed recovery (fastboot flashable): https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347770518
you'll want to update to 5.1 right after...
*edit...I also have a radio only zip....2.6.651.11 Radio only from OTA (fastboot flashable): https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347767491
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look here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-one-m9/development/ruu-sprint-htc-one-m9-1-32-651-17-t3073355
flash this one: 2.6.651.11 Modified Firmware from OTA, removed recovery (fastboot flashable): https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347770518
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Had to give you a +thanks for that. For some reason when I use the search feature on the website and the premium app, I get connection refused errors so I have to find everything manually, which is a total drag. I don't like making q&a threads because that feels like asking people to hold my hand or spoon feed me information. I'm a bloody Linux developer and rom modder, so this is all stuff I know how to do, I just have a hard time finding the resources I need, so I greatly appreciate the links.
I never like to go by bars but the actual dBm reading instead. Sadly a lot of it is just Sprint's network. I really thought once LTE 800 was rolled out that would cure most signal issues but one "bar" is pretty much the norm for me. Even right next to a tower if your not positioned right I can't get a full signal. While my HTC phones have never had the strongest signal to begin with, I think most of it is just the network. At home my LTE strength is usually -110 dBm to -115 which on average I pull maybe 3 megabits. Since I'm on wi-fi a lot, I like to keep my phone on CDMA only not only does this save a ton of battery but I can get great signal -85 in the same spot I'm getting -115 on LTE. I have pulled great speeds on 1 "bar" before depending on the band but Sprint's LTE signal just sucks almost everyone unless I'm by a tower. I wish there was a widget to jump from CDMA to LTE since staying on LTE while connected to wi-fi is pointless. Low LTE makes CSFB not work very well can cause the phone not to ring or just go right to voicemail. The phone has to switch back to 1X anyway to take a call and if you can pipe your data over wi-fi keep it on CDMA. You would want to consider switching to Big Red if you want to solve your signal issues.
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I never like to go by bars but the actual dBm reading instead. Sadly a lot of it is just Sprint's network. I really thought once LTE 800 was rolled out that would cure most signal issues but one "bar" is pretty much the norm for me. Even right next to a tower if your not positioned right I can't get a full signal. While my HTC phones have never had the strongest signal to begin with, I think most of it is just the network. At home my LTE strength is usually -110 dBm to -115 which on average I pull maybe 3 megabits. Since I'm on wi-fi a lot, I like to keep my phone on CDMA only not only does this save a ton of battery but I can get great signal -85 in the same spot I'm getting -115 on LTE. I have pulled great speeds on 1 "bar" before depending on the band but Sprint's LTE signal just sucks almost everyone unless I'm by a tower. I wish there was a widget to jump from CDMA to LTE since staying on LTE while connected to wi-fi is pointless. Low LTE makes CSFB not work very well can cause the phone not to ring or just go right to voicemail. The phone has to switch back to 1X anyway to take a call and if you can pipe your data over wi-fi keep it on CDMA. You would want to consider switching to Big Red if you want to solve your signal issues.
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Yeah, I noticed 1 bar alot more recently. I live close to a tower, I used to get 4-5 consistently, but it seems after 800 came it's usually 1 bar.
But, I'm still getting great speeds, so I can't complain ?
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I never like to go by bars but the actual dBm reading instead. Sadly a lot of it is just Sprint's network. I really thought once LTE 800 was rolled out that would cure most signal issues but one "bar" is pretty much the norm for me. Even right next to a tower if your not positioned right I can't get a full signal. While my HTC phones have never had the strongest signal to begin with, I think most of it is just the network. At home my LTE strength is usually -110 dBm to -115 which on average I pull maybe 3 megabits. Since I'm on wi-fi a lot, I like to keep my phone on CDMA only not only does this save a ton of battery but I can get great signal -85 in the same spot I'm getting -115 on LTE. I have pulled great speeds on 1 "bar" before depending on the band but Sprint's LTE signal just sucks almost everyone unless I'm by a tower. I wish there was a widget to jump from CDMA to LTE since staying on LTE while connected to wi-fi is pointless. Low LTE makes CSFB not work very well can cause the phone not to ring or just go right to voicemail. The phone has to switch back to 1X anyway to take a call and if you can pipe your data over wi-fi keep it on CDMA. You would want to consider switching to Big Red if you want to solve your signal issues.
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I don't go by just bars. The dBm readings between devices reflected the same thing the bars did: the Nexus 5, Moto X, and LG G2 all got drastically better signal than my m9.
That's even after cycling airplane mode on then off again to make sure none of them were holding onto bad signal from another nearby tower instead of the nearest one.
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Yeah, I noticed 1 bar alot more recently. I live close to a tower, I used to get 4-5 consistently, but it seems after 800 came it's usually 1 bar.
But, I'm still getting great speeds, so I can't complain ?
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Is that in Brooklyn Park? I was in Champlin the other day was getting like 19 down on band 25. Band 41 outside was getting 35+ on a weak 1 bar signal. My home tower there is a few spots I can get-95 or better and lucky to pull 10 on band 25 with that reading. Spots in Brooklyn Center or Plymouth I have pulled 60+ on band 41. Band 41 where I can pick it up has been pretty solid but band 25 or 26 I have pulled decent speeds on some towers and awful speeds on others with the same signal reading. Then you take a few more steps it dumps to 3G. I really thought 800 LTE would be a lot better than it is considering how well Verizon works on 700.
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Is that in Brooklyn Park? I was in Champlin the other day was getting like 19 down on band 25. Band 41 outside was getting 35+ on a weak 1 bar signal. My home tower there is a few spots I can get-95 or better and lucky to pull 10 on band 25 with that reading. Spots in Brooklyn Center or Plymouth I have pulled 60+ on band 41. Band 41 where I can pick it up has been pretty solid but band 25 or 26 I have pulled decent speeds on some towers and awful speeds on others with the same signal reading. Then you take a few more steps it dumps to 3G. I really thought 800 LTE would be a lot better than it is considering how well Verizon works on 700.
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nope...Hastings
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nope...Hastings
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I haven't been down to TI in forever, it's a haul from the north side. Band 41 in Hastings, nice to see them rolling it out further outside the metro. I remember when they started building out wimax the coverage was terrible although they did stop the build out in favor of LTE.
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I haven't been down to TI in forever, it's a haul from the north side. Band 41 in Hastings, nice to see them rolling it out further outside the metro. I remember when they started building out wimax the coverage was terrible although they did stop the build out in favor of LTE.
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I think we've had band 41 for several months, been enjoying the speeds ?
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