[Q] Am I bricked? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently installed the nightly build of ICS on my samsung vibrant. Today the phone had a error that said encryption cannot be completed phone must be erased. I let it do a factory reset . Then I got stuck in a endless boot cycle showing the vibrant logo and then the cynogen guy for a few seconds then reboot. I could still access the recovery menu but it refused to flash any roms I threw at it. I downloaded and ran odin 1 click recovery and it changed my tmobile phone to a att phone. And it lost the recovery mode. It just shows att screen first then samsung vibrant second and just reboots. I can still get into download mode and flash roms using odin 3 but no matter what rom I select or if I choose repartion or not the flash will go through successfully but then the phone reboots into same problem as before. I suspect the recovery files are gone since no button combination anymore gets me into recovery. Is there anything else I can do?

Man I am having the exact same problem. I really hope someone can figure something out soon. Did yours randomly get that error? Or did you actually try to encrypt your phone?

Sounds like you used the wrong Odin 1 Click. If it installed Captivate bootloaders, that would cause a problem.

This is your best shot I think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24418319
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It just happened
It happened on its own. Was working fine all day walked in my house as as soon as it hit wifi it started going crazy. I had the data plan turned off months ago. Maybe theres something to it connecting up to the net. I have found out if you install your sim you get a reduced menu of recovery options but without sim it just constantly reboots. it only gives option of reboot, reinstall packages,delete all user data, delete cache data. If you try reinstalling the packages theres nothing there. Deleting caches made no differance. ADB does work and responds while in this lesser form of recovery is there a easy way to use adb to force a full system flash?

Thanks
That link was perfect had a link to eugenes no brick froyo rom which fixed my problem. Dloaded that used its pit and tar files and repartioned and im back to stock. Going back to team whiskeys mod. If all ICS roms has bugs like that is unusable.
bfranklin1986 said:
This is your best shot I think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24418319
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Do you have access to BOTH your internal and external SD cards? The Encryption Bug is totally and completely random and does not discriminate. There is currently no known reason or solution. Several of us across a few different devices have been working on this for months.
Consider yourself luck if you have access to both SDs as you are the 2nd person to get in and out today. Many, many others have not been as fortunate.
If you could please pull up this thread and put as much information in there as possible, it would be greatly appreciated. Are you unlocked, what happened right before, what bootloaders are you on, what ROM were you trying to flash, what ROM did you end up getting booted,....those types of things. As much detail as you can muster together, after you catch your breath and relax a minute.

Guys DO NOT run ICS unless you have read up on the Encryption Unsuccessful bug and except the possible consequences! Every ICS T959 rom should have a warning IMO.
There is no known fix > just a work around. Odin / Heimdall / Jtag = useless

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I think I might have pulled the trigger to quick. While the link above did give me Eugenes rom which at least got me out of the boot cycle both internal and external sd shows 0 and I am unable to load anything on either card. I have tried differant microsd cards all of them show the same thing. So eugenes rom got me working kind of but cant store anything at all. That sucks loved my vibrant and its almost out of contract and planned on using on prepay.

Agreed 100 %
Had I of known would of stuck around on my team whiskey rom which never gave me any problems. Does this ICS bug affect amazon kindles? Ive put cynogen9 on 2 of them and am wondering if I shouldnt take it off before they turn into paper weights.
Moped_Ryder said:
Guys DO NOT run ICS unless you have read up on the Encryption Unsuccessful bug and except the possible consequences! Every ICS T959 rom should have a warning IMO.
There is no known fix > just a work around. Odin / Heimdall / Jtag = useless
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chickenmon said:
Had I of known would of stuck around on my team whiskey rom which never gave me any problems. Does this ICS bug affect amazon kindles? Ive put cynogen9 on 2 of them and am wondering if I shouldnt take it off before they turn into paper weights.
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I got tagged on a Nook Color with it. BUT, since the Nook Color has a feature that no others I think do (you can boot a ROM straight from an SD card and not mess with the oringinal OS at all), I was able to just pull my Microsd out and reformat it and then put CM7 on it for my wife.
So far from what I have seen and been working on:
Vibrant, Captivate, My wife's Nook Color, A few Transformers, SGSII,...

Anything I can do?
Anything I can do to get my partions right again? I can flash the twm 5.2.2 but none of the roms i throw at it including ics passion stays in a boot cycle. Only rom that works is eugenes froyo that does not brick and it doesnt allow internal or external mem to be seen.

chickenmon said:
... Only rom that works is eugenes froyo that does not brick and it doesnt allow internal or external mem to be seen.
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You may want to bring up this issue directly in Merio90's thread. I believe Alex9090 went thru possibly similar issues and may be able to help you in that thread (unless she happens to pop in here).
I'm assuming you were trying to mount sdcard and emmc within recovery first (storage and mounts)? If you do have access to recovery again and can mount the external sdcard, maybe try repartitioning the card within recovery (using the parameters in Merio90's instructions)? Then transfer your rom zip and re-flash.
People have actually flashed Eugene's Froyo post-EU ... but without an ext sdcard. Quite an oddity. It's the only one (AFAIK) that'll fully boot up (even after losing int sdcard access due to EU) yet without an external sdcard in place.

Your assumptions are correct. I cannot mount emmc. I cannot flash any rom via 2.5 or 5.2 recovery only through odin and only eugenes rom still allows phone to boot but no mounting of internal or external sds. Ive spent about 3 days on this. There must be some hardcore adb commands to force a true factory reset partioning and all. Very annoying. Thanks for the help if I find any ways to fix it I will repost it here.

Might be bricked?
Ok, i will admit up front that I probably did something stupid and now am sending out a cry for help. Until yesterday I had ICS 4.0.3 successfully installed. I believe it was Euphoria flavor. But, I constantly had shortage of memory problems with the new force close language on apps running in bg - was laggy. Here is where it all went wrong - Decided to dl and install CM9 nightly to fix my laggy install. Recovery went fine, but rom failed, rebooted and sent error to cm. Tried new tactic - dl and installed Slim ICS - wrong, got stuck in boot loop - but could still get into download mode. Ran Odin to restore to stock. Ran fine but Failed - no explanation, just failed. Since it would not respond, finally turned it off - OFF has now become permanent! Power button does nothing. Charging does not light up screen. No download or recovery mode! Really fearful that this IS bad. Help, help, help!!
Open to suggestion. . .
JIM in FLA

Not related at all to my original problem.

tenantrep said:
Ok, i will admit up front that I probably did something stupid and now am sending out a cry for help. Until yesterday I had ICS 4.0.3 successfully installed. I believe it was Euphoria flavor. But, I constantly had shortage of memory problems with the new force close language on apps running in bg - was laggy. Here is where it all went wrong - Decided to dl and install CM9 nightly to fix my laggy install. Recovery went fine, but rom failed, rebooted and sent error to cm. Tried new tactic - dl and installed Slim ICS - wrong, got stuck in boot loop - but could still get into download mode. Ran Odin to restore to stock. Ran fine but Failed - no explanation, just failed. Since it would not respond, finally turned it off - OFF has now become permanent! Power button does nothing. Charging does not light up screen. No download or recovery mode! Really fearful that this IS bad. Help, help, help!!
Open to suggestion. . .
JIM in FLA
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First of all, not to sound like a ****; but it's rude to hijack someone elses thread. You should've created your own thread for this.
Second; you might have fried your bootloader which in turn, yeah, that's bad and you might have bricked your phone.
Did you try to boot into recovery via the battery pull method. If not, try that and see how it works. I would link you to the instructions but I'm too lazy and tired right now to search for it and again, this is someone else's thread. Just do a search for it and you should find it.
If you need more help or guidance, create your own thread and start there.

Noticed your running Ice Cream Zenwich rc1.3. How do you like it. Ive installed slim 3 times today and twice I have gotten the encryption error within a hour. Needless to say not impressed major pain in the ass to have to do a million and half tricks with awm, adb, popping sd cards in and out etc.

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Also the current build of ics slim does not allow the imei information to be retrieved from sim for tmobile requiring a reflash of the modem. You have to download and install a new modem. I used csm5. The guide on the link in this post dow work but its a real pain and requires lots of trial and error. Wondering if google intentionally bricking these things knowing we all got gadget lust for the sIII now.

chickenmon said:
Noticed your running Ice Cream Zenwich rc1.3. How do you like it ...
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ICZen_rc1.8.3 (AOKP #39, ICS 4.0.4) + subZero #144 (New Test Kernel just released in mr_pyscho's RootzWiki kernel thread) is Linaro infused ... and I've got to say the combo is THE fastest rom experience I've ever had on my Vibe. Whatever MP did in his new test kernel just blows the doors off the previous performance limits.
Btw .. you keep encountering EU again. Really odd unless possibly your external card wasn't partitioned correctly. Not a knock directly on you, but it is a common occurrence lately. FYI, I repartitioned mine directly from recovery.
Also ... Br1cK'd (ICZen) and mr_psycho (subZero) are aware of the EU situation and try to include safeguards in their builds. However, until we know the exact root cause of EU, we're all just shooting in the dark. Imo, it's at least comforting to use a rom & kernel where the dev's are at least mindful of EU.

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[Q] ICS b4 was running great, rebooted to samsung logo

getting to be far too familiar a scenario lately....
lately EVERY time i reboot my phone (running ics build 2, 3 and 4, stock kernel) it gets stuck on samsung logo.. somehow my phone will only boot into the frigging cm7 recovery which as im sure youre all aware is rather useless to fix any problems im having in ics and leaves me unable to flash, backup, or restore anything. it's quite frustrating and i have no idea how to fix it but by going back to bml, re-partitioning, then odin ei20 modem, cm7 fixed recovery, then flash back to ics but doin this every reboot it getting very tedious..
ive read about recovery loops, but the fix doesnt work for me as i cant mount the ICS /system partition in cm7 recovery...and ive been all over trying a zillion things to get it to work and havent pulled dmesg or logcat but if someone thinks it would be useful ..i wish i knew why EVERYTHING is great, then BANG, reboot and it's FML city.
i should add this phone is a replacement via insurance and that the entire time ive had it, i've been having this problem to varying degrees of intensity,.sometimes if i rebooted enough the ics boot animation would finally come up and freeze part way through, and in the first week with this phone is seemed fine. the first few times i rebooted and battery pulled until it started but this is the fourth time in two weeks ive found myself going back to repartition from odin and then back to ics.. the phone is only mine for a month,.
if nobody has any ideas ill be getting it replaced tomorrow in store. i have the no fee insurance replacement plan, but i would prefer not to have to use another as it's not under warranty and this would be my second replacement and this mes has to last me until the gnex hits uscc in hopefully april if it ever does because i'd rather switch to vzw than take any of usccs other offerings currently.. if they dont get the gnex it'll be time for me to move on...
anyway please advise.. thanks
http://exzacklyright.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-flash-ics-on-verizon-samsung.html
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http://exzacklyright.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-flash-ics-on-verizon-samsung.html
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Thanks for the response. Sounds like a good guide for newbs but in my case information is redundant. I have no problems with the install, unless recovery switches to cm7 recovery during reboot and cannot manage to boot/flash/nandroid until I Odin stock ei20 with repartition and wipe out every bit of data I had. The posts about howto fix CWM bootloop for cm9 do not seem to work for me, as the post says.. Please reread the OP, ya got me excited thinking there was a solution ;-/ thanks anyway, maybe it will help another user.
wizayne said:
Thanks for the response. Sounds like a good guide for newbs but in my case information is redundant. I have no problems with the install, unless recovery switches to cm7 recovery during reboot and cannot manage to boot/flash/nandroid until I Odin stock ei20 with repartitions and wipe out every bit of data in had. The posts about howto fix cwm bootloop for cm9 do not seem to work for me, as the post says.. Please reread the OPEN, ya got me excited thinking there was a solution ;-/ thanks anyway, maybe it will help another user.
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have you tried flashing glitch kernel to the phone. imo it sounds like a kernel issue and not so much a phone issue.
mkuehl06 said:
have you tried flashing glitch kernel to the phone. imo it sounds like a kernel issue and not so much a phone issue.
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The problem started after using ics from alphalulz v1 on around build 3 team hacksung IMMEDIATELY AFTER flashing glitch kernel v14 build 4...I have since kept away from glitch on ics, and the problem remains.
Lately it hasn't been as bad though and it seems by hitting random buttons during boot that it will eventually start but reading tells me glitch v14 build 5 is still recovery bootloop ridden and I haven't seen a word about it in the OP for ANY ics components be it team hacksung roms or glitch kernel, and an issue like this which from reading is seemingly widespread *should* be mentioned.
Any suggestions?
In your op you said e120, what phone are you using. E120 isn't a fascinate build.
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Ei20 is the latest and greatest version of gb/radio from uscc for the mesmerize, not that it'll change the outcome afaik to go to anything else... unfortunately ;-/
But it is a full flash package if ya open the tar up complete with movinand, sbl, radio, rfs, etc.. I think it is a 10 or 11 file package and I've used it a hundred times with making the switch from mtd to bml
wizayne said:
Ei20 is the latest and greatest version of gb/radio from uscc for the mesmerize, not that it'll change the outcome afaik to go to anything else... unfortunately ;-/
But it is a full flash package if ya open the tar up complete with movinand, sbl, radio, rfs, etc.. I think it is a 10 or 11 file package and I've used it a hundred times with making the switch from mtd to bml
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That makes more sense to me now I know what phone your on. Try rootzwiki they have a mesmorize section, they can help ya out more than I can. I have fassy so idk much about mes
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[Q] Soft bricked vibrant-going in circles for a week

This is what happens when you have too much info with waaaay too little experience.
Bought an unlocked Vibrant from Amazon a year ago after the original tmobile one got stolen. It had issues like freezing up, tons of apps running all of time, etc. I finally tried installing froyo and it made the phone SO MUCH BETTER! Everything ran 1000% faster. I should have stopped there. But, it was pretty addictive I started reading about the new ice cream roms and somewhere, before I even got into it, I messed up the internal sd card. I have been working on this for a week, reading, downloading, flashing, etc. I feel like I have tried everything and have gone around in circles.
I can get into download mode with no problem. The furthest I have gotten after that was getting the "pass" in Odin. The phone does the boot up, then stay on the Galaxy S screen. Now, my computer won't recognize the phone (which has already happened) but now I am soooo confused and frustrated about where to go next. I have used AIO toolbox, Eugene's no brick, installing new drivers, new usb cord, etc.
Sorry so long. Thanks again.
bump...hope someone can help.
Could you give a clearer explanation/timeline of what you did? How did you mess internal sd?
Did you Odin stock jfd?
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bump...hope someone can help.
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Is Clockworkmod recovery installed? If not, google: Samsung_Vibrant:_Full_Update_Guide and go to the Cyanogenmod wiki entry. Read through the "Installing Clockworkmod recovery" section.
In addition, from Addictivetips, to start recovery mode using the hardware buttons:
"Using hardware button combination on most Android devices:
On most Android devices including ones by HTC, you can enter recovery by powering your device off and then powering it back on while keeping either the ‘Volume Down’ or the ‘Volume-Up’ button pressed, depending on the device. This will enter the bootloader from where you can select the ‘RECOVERY’ option by navigating to it with the Volume key and entering it with the ‘Power’ key.
Sorry, but I'm not allowed to post links yet.
On most Samsung devices specifically Samsung Galaxy S series devices, you must keep both the ‘Volume-Up’ and ‘Home’ keys pressed while powering on the device, to directly enter recovery."
Thanks so much for the help. Ascallop: I tried to run Heimdall suite 1.3.1. The first time the drivers installed but I could not get passed the "run as administrator" on the next step. I have Windows XP professional even though I am on a home computer. It is automatically checked off to do so. When I tried again later that day, my computer again only recognized the vibrant as an unknown device. I just followed your link to Cyanogenmod's wiki and downloaded the older version and the same thing happened with the unknown device. I can't get passed that. Trailblazerz11, I think when I got to clockwork mod recovery, I hit repartition (if I am explaining that right). I was able to get into download mode and use Odin to get to the bootloader loop. I can't get into recovery. I was getting the message about the internal sd error. Now, I am stuck with the unknown device issue. I have tried a couple of different versions of Odin, the AIO toolbox, different usb ports, a new samsung cord, etc. Thanks again for helping this noob.
update: Used heimdall frontloader and installed cmenard overstock. Now I am stuck at the overstock screen. I am searching through different posts to find out more. But if you have any advice or can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks again.
Have you tried repartition on odin?
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Do you have an external SD card installed? If so, then remove it during the entire recovery process. I had lots of trouble recovering and flashing new kernels/roms while it was installed. Probably should have mentioned this earlier... sry.
No. It was already taken out. I am having trouble still with the vibrant not being recognized. I used the zadig, it recognized the samsung, did the next step, frozen at overstock screen. Now, after unplugging cable, Vibrant pops up as unknown device. Can't do zadig again.
I'm travelling until Friday, when I get back to my home PC, I'll odin my Vibrant back to stock Eclair and will list the steps that I took some months ago to install CWM/CM7. I once was at the same point as you are now, I just can't remember the steps verbatim regarding the recovery process. One question though: have you updated your phone via Kies at any point? If so, was the last update to Froyo?
BTW, I'm currently running (quite happily) ICS Passion V12 on my T-Mobile Vibrant.
The Vibrant is a pretty hard device to truly brick. Don't worry too much, yet.
Thanks so much ascallop! I think I tried Kies when froyo was offered as an update through Samsung. But, it wouldn't work. I thought it was because my phone came unlocked so I came here and was able to update to froyo and I loved it. I haven't used Kies since. The ICS Passion looks awesome. I think the ease of using froyo made me ridiculously overconfident. As of right now, I have gotten the drivers to download in Heimdall and used the frontend to flash the kernel. I'm not sure what to do next because it seems that if I reboot to get into download or unplug the usb, the computer won't recognize the phone again. I'm sure I'll be happily running ICS when you get back on Friday. Kidding, kidding.
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Thanks so much ascallop! I think I tried Kies when froyo was offered as an update through Samsung. But, it wouldn't work. I thought it was because my phone came unlocked so I came here and was able to update to froyo and I loved it. I haven't used Kies since. The ICS Passion looks awesome. I think the ease of using froyo made me ridiculously overconfident. As of right now, I have gotten the drivers to download in Heimdall and used the frontend to flash the kernel. I'm not sure what to do next because it seems that if I reboot to get into download or unplug the usb, the computer won't recognize the phone again. I'm sure I'll be happily running ICS when you get back on Friday. Kidding, kidding.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13132341#post13132341
Let's get your phone back to Stock first. I just did this to my own Vibrant
I am officially back to stock!!! Thanks so, so much. After all of the reading and researching, you actually jumpstarted my recovery! Thanks again!!!
You're welcome
BTW, I flashed ICS V12r1 with Nelson's new kernel today. I love it. GPS works great for me, although others have reported problems. Same old deep sleep issue for them.
I wonder if flashing back to stock first is the key to fixing the prob. Don't really know though...
After the stock flash, the steps I took were:
copied kernel and rom to the internal sd card
One-click rooted the phone
odin (1.3) the Overstock kernel just to get cwm installed (instructions on the cm7 wiki)
reboot to cwm
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache/dalvik
flash rom
reboot, let settle
reboot to cwm
flash kernel (I used: ICS_Passion_sunset_with_nova)
reboot, let settle
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One more thing: I flashed the Gingerbread bootloader as well. After you do this the key combo for cwm is: Vol-up + power. Let go when you see the boot splash.
Sounds sweet! Although I'm back to stock, I can't root because I can't access the internal drive. A message comes up about E: no such file, etc. I can see the phone storage memory amount and the phone holds data. I don't have an external card in right now. So, here I go again....
You shouldn't need an external card to root. Try One click root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
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Sounds sweet! Although I'm back to stock, I can't root because I can't access the internal drive. A message comes up about E: no such file, etc. I can see the phone storage memory amount and the phone holds data. I don't have an external card in right now. So, here I go again....
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When I've seen that E: error, it has been because of a mismatch between the CWM version and the filesystem layout on the device. CWM for CM7 doesn't work for ICS, for example. At least not for me.
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When I've seen that E: error, it has been because of a mismatch between the CWM version and the filesystem layout on the device. CWM for CM7 doesn't work for ICS, for example. At least not for me.
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And of course the stock recovery won't work with anything else. Different partitioning, different filesystems.
Okay. I was able to root with the one click root app. Now, I need to figure out what to do next. Ascallop, I was reading about your latest updates. I have to go through it a few times so that I can understand it all. I had froyo before and it blew away stock. I can't imagine what ICS is like Thanks again for all of the help. I HATE being back to stock.
The only reason I'm not running ICS is that I'm waiting for CyanogenMod permissions management to appear in anyone ICS rom. I'm really tempted to try Passion. ICS is markedly better than the best GB in various ways. Just remember to take a nandroid backup before upgrading, and that if something doesn't work and you need to downgrade, you will have to get the downgrade done successfully before you can nandroid-restore. Good luck!
Thanks Cashmundy. I saw the video for the root and install ice cream sandwich by Eddie West (I think that is his name.) He is a dj also. It looks like everything I would need so I may go with that.

accidental captivate flash

this is what i get for oding late at night but i managed to do something very very stupid I odined my phone with a one click package for my captivate
I've been able to get the phone back in mostly working order now though.. but i feel in my gut something still may not be right.
here is where i got the package
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
This below is what version i accidently installed.
I897UCKI2 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread
With Bootloaders - Link to thread - Second Post [With CWM Injected Kernel from Boog]
so after i made this mistake.. (noticed my phone had a at&t bootscreen an wouldn't load) I went forth an flashed stock firmware avail for aiotools for the vibrant an then installed the stock froyo bootloader
I'm hoping everything is right in its place well except once i get cm9 flashed it boots up an shows a EU error so i freak yank the battery an odin this phone back into the stoneage an well... surprisingly.... my internal memory is 100% there O.O
anyways current issue is not being able to get cm7 to install though i'm probably missing something due to being tired anyways..
help sugestions banter calling me a noob I just want to make sure i did possibly everything to fix this mistake.
pintek said:
I'm hoping everything is right in its place well except once i get cm9 flashed it boots up an shows a EU error so i freak yank the battery an odin this phone back into the stoneage an well... surprisingly.... my internal memory is 100% there O.O
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You,my friend, dodged a bullet here.
pintek said:
anyways current issue is not being able to get cm7 to install though i'm probably missing something due to being tired anyways..
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Well, when you say you are not able to get CM7 to install, what exactly is it doing?
Are you getting thrown into a bootloop (caused by CWR mismatch and pretty common)? If so, pull battery and boot into recovery and re-flash CM7 over itself again. No wipe. Then reboot.
You may have to flash a different kernel, like glitch or something like that. But try the above first. Should work for you. Does it still say ATT when you boot up?
Lucky for you, everything is good, but if you want to flash a GB or higher ROM, i would suggest you flash the bootloaders in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
After that just flash CM9, and you *should* be good, if not, try flashing it again with wiping data, cache, and dalvik cache. I guarantee that will work.
I ended up having to format both SD cards an retrying install custom rom via aio tool an with luck was able to get cm7 installed then cm10 an i dno't have the ime error everyone else seams to have . I did before this flash the gb bootloader over this cause it was the only thing that managed to remove the at&t splash screen before the kernal.
Lesson I learned....
remember that the vibrant you use aio tool not a premade pack >.<
an ya i do own both phones so this does complicate things now an then <,<
I also have both devices. Set up two different folders on your pc, one marked i897 and the other t959. I also add i897 or t959 to any files that could possibly get mixed up in Odin.
Its peanut butter jelly(bean) time...

[Q] Encryption prevents custom ROMs being used

OK so let me start off with, great site. I have read a ton of information.
First: Siyah 4.3.3 (Latest) Kernel which now has been put to AJK v1.48s
ROM; SHOstock3 v2.5.9
PreMod Settings: SGS2 AT&T SGH-i777. Started with GB > AT&T OTA (KIES) 4.0.3 > AT&T OTA WIFI 4.0.4 (caused huge freaking headaches with battery, charging, turn off the phone loop, battery draining, etc.)
Issues:
Original Issue posted in this thread (viewing Single Post) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39350619&postcount=18
Creepy offered something to try. That never worked as all I was able to do was download mode or stare at the Samsung Galaxy S2 Splash Screen. Well, I took to his download repository and other links and used his One-Click Recovery to stock GB Rom to make part of my phone usable, using this link here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18859438&postcount=199
While it is Gingerbread at least my phone is usable. I want to try his STOCK ICS method but that mentions the eMMC super-brick bug.
So this is what I have tried so far. I have tried installing Siyah 4.3.3 nomswap for my kernel using Mobil-Odin Lite. That works but it never reboots or actually says finished. What it does do is stay at the wicked purple splash with the yin yang symbol. I left it like that last night until I woke up this morning and it never changed. So I rebooted the phone and the Kernel is on there. I reboot into recovery so that I can install SHOstock3 v2.5.9. That goes off flawlessly except here the last few times it won't reboot when I go to the GO BACK. It sticks and doesn't do anything. Rebooting shows the SHOstock3 Engine Boot Animation. Once it stops it goes to ask me for the encryption password. Well I put in my password (was the same one to the unlock screen) and it reboots and you see the nifty Samsung animation logo and then goes to the Samsung Galaxy S2 Animation Logo and then just stays there. It really pisses me off.
So after all that I finally put a new Kernel on there,AJK 1,48s. Pretty cool it loads up and then reboots. Well AJK shows up after the light-blue bar fills up and then goes black and the 4 touch sensitive row keys are lit up for a bit before going dark but the phone is still on. So I rebooted to recovery (CWM now with the Kernel) fixed tweaks, went to advanced and saw all sorts of options. Tried clearing caches for ROM 2 and restarting,no effect. I removed ROM 2 and went through reboot and nothing. Restored ROM 2 and nothing. Re installed SHOstock3 v2.5.9. Did the same thing after install and not backing out when I hit GO BACK. Rebooted, same scenario that happened before with requiring password. Entering password does the same thing with a reboot and then staying on Samsung Splash Screen. If I Don't enter the password and reboot,same thing happens. So after being irritated and pissed off I ran Creepy's One-Click Fix again and paid attention to the phone and noticed it mentioned not being able to access the AT&T section or partition or something like that. So while part of my phone works under normal circumstances I want to figure out how to remove that encryption part of the phone and get full access (even though full memory and space are shown under Windows 7 and the files on the phone). The password I put on there isn't taking and I don't know if using PC methods for removing encryption (which could take awhile I know) needs to be employed (and if so which methods) or if that part is just screwed and I can't put on any other kernels or custom ROMs. Perhaps tell me where I messed up. Should I try swapping the ROMs from Advanced setting in CWM Recovery? Can I try a different ROM (kernel didn't seem to help)? I have done several factory resets dalvik cache wipes cache wipes formats,etc. and it is still there. I can say that before the whole encryption debacle (even though I was encrypted I did get in my phone after encrypting it) my pin unlock for my SIM wouldn't work and I actually SIM locked my phone. Had to go to AT&T and get a new SIM and was up and running. I put a 4 digit pin lock for the SIM (it let me do it) and when I went to unlock it after a reboot, it wanted an 8 pin for the PUK and wouldn't take what I put. I tried to change the PIN but to no avail. Once that happened I guess it snowballed. Any help is appreciated. I have searched and tried some things that looked to match my issue but none have totally helped. I do have ADB set up on my wife's laptop which I use to restore my phone to GB Stock ROM. I haven't been able to reboot the phone into Bootloader to do any fastboot commands as when I tried to do it the commands just sent the phone into normal reboot (though adb reboot recovery does boot to recovery). I Haven't tried booting to the bootloader using the new Kernel though so I will wait for confirmation or additional information before I try. Thanks guys.
Eagle
Couple of comments. Siyah 4.3.3 (and ajk) kernels are for 4.x ICS and JB so that explains why your stock Gingerbread system would not flash after you installed it. If you flash back to stock Gingerbread again, and then flash a custom kernel, use a kernel that is compatible with Gingerbread if you want to boot the system.
After doing a little research, it seems that a wipe data/factory reset will not clear the encryption, but a format data will. This information is not from a Samsung forum; it's from the Droid DNA forum. I'm thinking that the same thing may apply to the I777. See the thread here.
It might be worth a try anyway. Flash stock plus root Gingerbread, install mobile odin or mobile odin lite, and use it to flash Siyah 2.6.14. Boot into recovery and go to the Mounts and Storage section. There you can format data, (and all the other partitions, separately.)
creepyncrawly said:
Couple of comments. Siyah 4.3.3 (and ajk) kernels are for 4.x ICS and JB so that explains why your stock Gingerbread system would not flash after you installed it. If you flash back to stock Gingerbread again, and then flash a custom kernel, use a kernel that is compatible with Gingerbread if you want to boot the system.
After doing a little research, it seems that a wipe data/factory reset will not clear the encryption, but a format data will. This information is not from a Samsung forum; it's from the Droid DNA forum. I'm thinking that the same thing may apply to the I777. See the thread here.
It might be worth a try anyway. Flash stock plus root Gingerbread, install mobile odin or mobile odin lite, and use it to flash Siyah 2.6.14. Boot into recovery and go to the Mounts and Storage section. There you can format data, (and all the other partitions, separately.)
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Thank you so much creepy. I will give that a try later and see how it goes. I hope the information I gave actually gives enough info. I know folks usually want enough. Ill post back my findings.
Eagle
quick follow up and what I tried
creepyncrawly said:
Couple of comments. Siyah 4.3.3 (and ajk) kernels are for 4.x ICS and JB so that explains why your stock Gingerbread system would not flash after you installed it. If you flash back to stock Gingerbread again, and then flash a custom kernel, use a kernel that is compatible with Gingerbread if you want to boot the system.
After doing a little research, it seems that a wipe data/factory reset will not clear the encryption, but a format data will. This information is not from a Samsung forum; it's from the Droid DNA forum. I'm thinking that the same thing may apply to the I777. See the thread here.
It might be worth a try anyway. Flash stock plus root Gingerbread, install mobile odin or mobile odin lite, and use it to flash Siyah 2.6.14. Boot into recovery and go to the Mounts and Storage section. There you can format data, (and all the other partitions, separately.)
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Hey Creepy, I have a quick follow up and want to tell you what I have tried.
So I had already used Kies to move to AT&T v 4.0.4 ICS on my phone when I read your post. Rather than flashback again to GB I went ahead and put Siyah 4.3.3 on my phone. Went great, rebooted and installed quick and everything. Well I rebooted into recovery and went to mounts and storage and formatted the data and all that there and even formatted the secondrom data and all that. Did it a couple times to make sure everything was clean and good to go. Even put AJKs kernel on there after I ran the cleanrom script and it went flawlessly. I did factory resets and wipes and all that and installed SHOstock3 v2.5.9 and started up great. Well it got past the animation and the damn Password for encryption popped up. Well I put the wrong password in and it rebooted without the SAMSUNG screen and went through the boot ani and back to the password for encryption screen. I put the right password in, it reboots and you see the Samsung logo flash quickly and then it sticks on the Samsung Galaxy S2 Splash screen. I don't know what is holding it up from going forward unless when I messed up the first go around and it deleted everything if it didn't take out the bootload command or what have you. So I don't know if this idea will work but I am going to flashback to GB and put the siyah version on there that you linked and see if that will work.
One tihng, when Iencrypted the device the first go round, I onlydid the used data and area not the whole thing. Is this affecting it somehow? Any other ideas to try? I figured a full data format would remove the encryption but it never pops up saying all encryption will be removed. What I need is access to that area of the phone if I could just mount it on the computer. Is it possible after formatting the data, or before, that I should mount internal USB, DATA, etc and try another format/wipe or at least mount them to see if they can be used? Thanks for the help. For anyone else viewing this post (which actually is a lot) any help or ideas are appreciated. I am thinking I may need to format everything and get ahold of Samsung to see if they will reset my phone for me. I just wonder if the PIN lock on my SIM card that got locked when it wouldn't take my PIN didn't mess something up as well.
Eagle
WarEagleUS said:
Hey Creepy, I have a quick follow up and want to tell you what I have tried.
So I had already used Kies to move to AT&T v 4.0.4 ICS on my phone when I read your post. Rather than flashback again to GB I went ahead and put Siyah 4.3.3 on my phone. Went great, rebooted and installed quick and everything. Well I rebooted into recovery and went to mounts and storage and formatted the data and all that there and even formatted the secondrom data and all that. Did it a couple times to make sure everything was clean and good to go. Even put AJKs kernel on there after I ran the cleanrom script and it went flawlessly. I did factory resets and wipes and all that and installed SHOstock3 v2.5.9 and started up great. Well it got past the animation and the damn Password for encryption popped up. Well I put the wrong password in and it rebooted without the SAMSUNG screen and went through the boot ani and back to the password for encryption screen. I put the right password in, it reboots and you see the Samsung logo flash quickly and then it sticks on the Samsung Galaxy S2 Splash screen. I don't know what is holding it up from going forward unless when I messed up the first go around and it deleted everything if it didn't take out the bootload command or what have you. So I don't know if this idea will work but I am going to flashback to GB and put the siyah version on there that you linked and see if that will work.
One tihng, when Iencrypted the device the first go round, I onlydid the used data and area not the whole thing. Is this affecting it somehow? Any other ideas to try? I figured a full data format would remove the encryption but it never pops up saying all encryption will be removed. What I need is access to that area of the phone if I could just mount it on the computer. Is it possible after formatting the data, or before, that I should mount internal USB, DATA, etc and try another format/wipe or at least mount them to see if they can be used? Thanks for the help. For anyone else viewing this post (which actually is a lot) any help or ideas are appreciated. I am thinking I may need to format everything and get ahold of Samsung to see if they will reset my phone for me. I just wonder if the PIN lock on my SIM card that got locked when it wouldn't take my PIN didn't mess something up as well.
Eagle
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Should I try TWRP instead of CWM and if so where should I grab it from?
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So this is what I have tried so far as of this moment.
I reflashed using your Stock + Root Gingerbread ROM.
Wiped DATA and everything in recovery menu several times.
Used Kernel Wipe and ROM Nuke for extra cleaning power.
Reinstalled the Kernel AJK and SHOstock3 ROM
Haven't installed any themes though I had Johns Blue and Villians Poison Base Theme (I believe that is what it is) on there when this all went down. Should I put them back on there?
Password still pops up. So what it looks like is that unless I stick with the unencrypted portion of the phone, I am screwed with any custom ROMs as the correct password has the phone restart and then stick at the Samsung Galaxy S2 Splash Screen. Apparently I still cannot access that area of the phones memory to wipe it at all no matter what I do. I need to access it somehow. Really driving me crazy and thinking I may need to talk with AT&T(as Samsung told me to earlier this morning lol) and see what they can do.
One thing I do notice is when I use your stock root program it actually removes the encryption or decrypts the section of the phone for the stock ROM to go on the phone which is cool.
Eagle
Any other things to try from anyone is greatly appreciated.
Been away all day. Sorry, I can't offer any other suggestions, but I have no experience with encryption. As you said, what you need to know is where the encryption is stored in memory so you can wipe or format that and restore it to original. If you can get to the right person, probably not level 1 tech support, then maybe you can find out. Somebody somewhere knows the answer to this.
would restoring my original EFS before this whole process help or is the encryption section totally blocked off?
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would restoring my original EFS before this whole process help or is the encryption section totally blocked off?
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I have no idea whether the encryption is stored there. What kind of efs backup did you take?
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Been away all day. Sorry, I can't offer any other suggestions, but I have no experience with encryption. As you said, what you need to know is where the encryption is stored in memory so you can wipe or format that and restore it to original. If you can get to the right person, probably not level 1 tech support, then maybe you can find out. Somebody somewhere knows the answer to this.
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Thx bro. yeah I need to run some forensic tools and see if I can mount the whole phone system on my PC and run the tools.
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I have no idea whether the encryption is stored there. What kind of efs backup did you take?
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a full efs backup. I made two or three actuakky using advanced efs, nitrality, and recovery.
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a full efs backup. I made two or three actuakky using advanced efs, nitrality, and recovery.
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A little research indicates that there is quite a bit of stuff stored in efs besides carrier specific data. So maybe encryption could be in there. Of those tools, nitrality for sure and maybe advanced efs should be able to restore the entire efs partition. If you are comfortable with the risk - a damaged efs would render the phone useless - then you might try this to see if it clears up the encryption issue. BTW, you should learn how to back up the efs partition yourself using terminal and linux commands.
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A little research indicates that there is quite a bit of stuff stored in efs besides carrier specific data. So maybe encryption could be in there. Of those tools, nitrality for sure and maybe advanced efs should be able to restore the entire efs partition. If you are comfortable with the risk - a damaged efs would render the phone useless - then you might try this to see if it clears up the encryption issue. BTW, you should learn how to back up the efs partition yourself using terminal and linux commands.
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Yeah I should have used ADB to do that from the get go. I should have used the wife's laptop like I started to instead of my WIN 8 machine has it seems to be finicky with Android SDK (the portion at least needed to run ADB). Linux commands really aren't much different than terminal and I have done both. I was actually trying to get fastboot commands to work but my bootloader wasn't cooperating and for the life of me I couldn't find how to unlock it. I may try restoring that EFS. If nothing else I would love to be able to format that EFS and replace it with my original copy though as you said a damaged EFS may actually cause issues (who knows if it is damaged). I do know that I am fixing to chat with AT&T support. I hope I don't have to drive down to Hoover, AL to the repair facility. I would rather them send me a phone and send this one back. I am on stock 4.0.4 ICS from AT&T and any root that may be on there (though I doubt there is now) I can remove and what not
Thanks for the advice and insight Creepy. I know you tried like hell to get me an answer but in doing research on here with other problems I found out some useful information going forward my friend.
Eagle
Well, looks like I will be getting a special early upgrade and the wife will as well. I will be keeping this phone, however, to mess with this and see if I cannot get this problem fixed. Thanks Creepy so much. I appreciate your research and help more than you know. If possible I would love to keep this thread open for a while just in case I figure this out and fix the issue. It may take me a week or so but I will get back to messing with it again.
A side note. You don't need the whole sdk to get adb. You can download just the files you need from my signature.
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[Q] Trouble with Geewiz

Have not flashed anything in quite some time. Odin'd back to stock then odin'd to 4.4. Was going to connect phone to XP pc but wouldnt recognize it. Did the tap 7 times trick turned on debugging. Turned off phone. Upon restart I am stuck on the turn on samsung logo. I have done nothing more than what I have wrote. I can make it go into EDIFY recovery but nothing else. Walked off and left phone for about 15 minutes still on Samsung logo.
Thoughts on fixing this or getting back to stock even so I can try again?
kriscris said:
Have not flashed anything in quite some time. Odin'd back to stock then odin'd to 4.4. Was going to connect phone to XP pc but wouldnt recognize it. Did the tap 7 times trick turned on debugging. Turned off phone. Upon restart I am stuck on the turn on samsung logo. I have done nothing more than what I have wrote. I can make it go into EDIFY recovery but nothing else. Walked off and left phone for about 15 minutes still on Samsung logo.
Thoughts on fixing this or getting back to stock even so I can try again?
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It's possible that it could have been a bum ODIN session, did you remove the SDCARD and the battery while executing the ODIN? For whatever reason, ODIN seems to occasionally screw up if the SDCARD or the battery is present (I have no idea why, and it's not exactly commonplace). Also, I learned from some folks that PMed me that GeeWiz 4.4 is "too big" for some devices, there is almost no room left on the SYSTEM volume on my dev phones with GW 4.4, and that seems to have caused a problem for at least some iterations of the Fascinate. I apologize for this, I thought all Fascinates were created equal
When you ODINed back to stock, did you specify the .PIT file if you were using a custom ROM (all current custom ROMs for the Fascinate that I am aware of *except* GeeWiz modify the device partition table).
> If you still want to give GeeWiz 4 a shot, here's what I recommend since you can still get into Recovery. Power down, download this newer version of GeeWiz 4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40050730&postcount=288 and put that file on your SDCARD. Replace the SDCARD, boot into Recovery and install that. Then, do a Factory Reset (Wipe Device Data / Wipe all User Data (Factory Reset)). That version of the ROM is smaller, the reports have been that it's small enough to fit on the devices where v4.4 is problematic.
> If you want to just go back to stock and try a different ROM, there should be no problem with that at all, you can just ODIN back to EH03 like you did before and install the ROM of your choosing, as far as I know all of them are equipped to deal with a stock device. If you need a known-good full EH03 package, I have one posted here for everyone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36427778&postcount=3, along with a copy of ODIN for the Fascinate and the mystical PIT file GeeWiz uses the stock partitions, so you shouldn't NEED the .pit file after going full stock, but I wanted people to have easy access to it, since it can be elusive to find.
I apologize for the difficulty, and thank you for trying my little GeeWiz ROM! I have a new (v4.5) version built that is almost identical to that zip-based version I linked above, but have not made the ODIN files for it yet, and probably won't get to that for at least a few days. Based on your description, my guess is that it was a bad ODIN or the partition tables are wonky and perhaps trying again with the SDCARD removed, battery removed, and specifying the .PIT file may clear this up. If the ROM is too big for your version of the Fascinate, I could also link up the previous (v4.3) iteration of the ROM for you, but I forget what bugs/challenges there were in that version. (It was like SO last month - lol)
Good luck, and please let us know how it goes for you.
Thanks
I just want to start off by saying thanks. I havent flashed anything in a while and maybe a forgot a few things. Its also nice to see a Dev putting so much into a project. BRAVO. I always prided myself on reading and looking for an answer before just asking.
Knowing a couple things I odin'd back to stock and then odin'd your ROM again and now it works beautifully. This is all I have done. Taken no other steps. If there is another step I didnt know it or do it. However 3 days and I couldnt be happier. Battery is going a little faster but thats never been a real issue for me.
My only problem now is I placed the edify update in the root of the sd card but when I reboot into recovery its not there. I took it off redownloaded it and put it on again same issue. Did I miss a step?
Thanks again for all the work. Breathed a bit of new life into a phone I was thinking about replacing.
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It's possible that it could have been a bum ODIN session, did you remove the SDCARD and the battery while executing the ODIN? For whatever reason, ODIN seems to occasionally screw up if the SDCARD or the battery is present (I have no idea why, and it's not exactly commonplace). Also, I learned from some folks that PMed me that GeeWiz 4.4 is "too big" for some devices, there is almost no room left on the SYSTEM volume on my dev phones with GW 4.4, and that seems to have caused a problem for at least some iterations of the Fascinate. I apologize for this, I thought all Fascinates were created equal
When you ODINed back to stock, did you specify the .PIT file if you were using a custom ROM (all current custom ROMs for the Fascinate that I am aware of *except* GeeWiz modify the device partition table).
> If you still want to give GeeWiz 4 a shot, here's what I recommend since you can still get into Recovery. Power down, download this newer version of GeeWiz 4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40050730&postcount=288 and put that file on your SDCARD. Replace the SDCARD, boot into Recovery and install that. Then, do a Factory Reset (Wipe Device Data / Wipe all User Data (Factory Reset)). That version of the ROM is smaller, the reports have been that it's small enough to fit on the devices where v4.4 is problematic.
> If you want to just go back to stock and try a different ROM, there should be no problem with that at all, you can just ODIN back to EH03 like you did before and install the ROM of your choosing, as far as I know all of them are equipped to deal with a stock device. If you need a known-good full EH03 package, I have one posted here for everyone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36427778&postcount=3, along with a copy of ODIN for the Fascinate and the mystical PIT file GeeWiz uses the stock partitions, so you shouldn't NEED the .pit file after going full stock, but I wanted people to have easy access to it, since it can be elusive to find.
I apologize for the difficulty, and thank you for trying my little GeeWiz ROM! I have a new (v4.5) version built that is almost identical to that zip-based version I linked above, but have not made the ODIN files for it yet, and probably won't get to that for at least a few days. Based on your description, my guess is that it was a bad ODIN or the partition tables are wonky and perhaps trying again with the SDCARD removed, battery removed, and specifying the .PIT file may clear this up. If the ROM is too big for your version of the Fascinate, I could also link up the previous (v4.3) iteration of the ROM for you, but I forget what bugs/challenges there were in that version. (It was like SO last month - lol)
Good luck, and please let us know how it goes for you.
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kriscris said:
I just want to start off by saying thanks. I havent flashed anything in a while and maybe a forgot a few things. Its also nice to see a Dev putting so much into a project. BRAVO. I always prided myself on reading and looking for an answer before just asking.
Knowing a couple things I odin'd back to stock and then odin'd your ROM again and now it works beautifully. This is all I have done. Taken no other steps. If there is another step I didnt know it or do it. However 3 days and I couldnt be happier. Battery is going a little faster but thats never been a real issue for me.
My only problem now is I placed the edify update in the root of the sd card but when I reboot into recovery its not there. I took it off redownloaded it and put it on again same issue. Did I miss a step?
Thanks again for all the work. Breathed a bit of new life into a phone I was thinking about replacing.
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No problem, I'm happy that it's useful for you, and I truly appreciate the kind words!
My recovery has a limitation that could be at fault here, it doesn't allow you to scroll beyond one screen of files. If the .zip is alphabetically beyond what the list will show, there is no way to select it :crying: If that's the case, you can rename it so it's aplhabetically higher up (or you can wait for me to actually do something about that limitation, but it's been that way forever .. I may have some extended off time from work coming up, perhaps I should make good on that fix ... it's been a problem for over a year I think!
The other possibility I can think of is that the file isn't really "there". How are you copying the file to the SDCARD? I've found that if the SDCARD isn't unmounted properly files are frequently truncated/lost. For example, if you are plugging the phone into a Windows PC, you should be certain to 'safely remove' it before unplugging it or turning off USB access from the phone (also applies to Linux). If you are physically removing the card and using a PC to copy the file, same thing, it should be 'safely removed' or unmounted before disconnecting it and plugging it back into the phone. If you are indeed physically removing the card, also be sure if the phone is ON when you do it to go into Settings/Storage and choose "Unmount SD card" before you pull it out. If the phone is off you can just eject it.
I hope one of these suggestions solves the problem. Please post back if not!!
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No problem, I'm happy that it's useful for you, and I truly appreciate the kind words!
My recovery has a limitation that could be at fault here, it doesn't allow you to scroll beyond one screen of files. If the .zip is alphabetically beyond what the list will show, there is no way to select it :crying: If that's the case, you can rename it so it's aplhabetically higher up (or you can wait for me to actually do something about that limitation, but it's been that way forever .. I may have some extended off time from work coming up, perhaps I should make good on that fix ... it's been a problem for over a year I think!
The other possibility I can think of is that the file isn't really "there". How are you copying the file to the SDCARD? I've found that if the SDCARD isn't unmounted properly files are frequently truncated/lost. For example, if you are plugging the phone into a Windows PC, you should be certain to 'safely remove' it before unplugging it or turning off USB access from the phone (also applies to Linux). If you are physically removing the card and using a PC to copy the file, same thing, it should be 'safely removed' or unmounted before disconnecting it and plugging it back into the phone. If you are indeed physically removing the card, also be sure if the phone is ON when you do it to go into Settings/Storage and choose "Unmount SD card" before you pull it out. If the phone is off you can just eject it.
I hope one of these suggestions solves the problem. Please post back if not!!
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It was the alphabetically ordered problem. Took about 5 minutes to fix. Thank you again.

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