[Q] system tuner/ Dual core - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

So I installed system tuner from playstore and I'm looking at both cpu's and I noticed CPU 0 is running 100% of the time and CPU 1 is offline 99% of the time? I have this app on my galaxy nexus and CPU 0 and 1 would be online 100% of the time, so any of u guys wanna download that app and post ur results?? Or dose someone out there that nos more about the chips in this phone care to " school " me? ///my phone is rooted

drawde40599 said:
So I installed system tuner from playstore and I'm looking at both cpu's and I noticed CPU 0 is running 100% of the time and CPU 1 is offline 99% of the time? I have this app on my galaxy nexus and CPU 0 and 1 would be online 100% of the time, so any of u guys wanna download that app and post ur results?? Or dose someone out there that nos more about the chips in this phone care to " school " me? ///my phone is rooted
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I see there is over 100 views, no1 Nos how these chips work and if this is normal?

drawde40599 said:
I see there is over 100 views, no1 Nos how these chips work and if this is normal?
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It's the way that all dual core phones work to save battery. When using the phone heavily, both should kick on. While not doing anything or not processor heavy, just one core would run.
SGS3 awaiting some dev love

Artimus009 said:
It's the way that all dual core phones work to save battery. When using the phone heavily, both should kick on. While not doing anything or not processor heavy, just one core would run.
SGS3 awaiting some dev love
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Correct.
CPU1 is rarely ever used. This is to conserve battery. It gets turned on/used only when there is a demand for extra processing power.
But some custom ROM/kernel combo's will change it so that CPU1 is used 100% of the time. I'd guess you had a custom kernel on your Nexus?

CZ Eddie said:
Correct.
CPU1 is rarely ever used. This is to conserve battery. It gets turned on/used only when there is a demand for extra processing power.
But some custom ROM/kernel combo's will change it so that CPU1 is used 100% of the time. I'd guess you had a custom kernel on your Nexus?
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Thank u guys, This is what I figured, but I've never had stock rom and kernel on any of my other dual core phones this is longest I've ever had stock rom and kernel (4 days ; p) and had no idea CPU 1 is never really used cause yes most kernels take advantage of both, I turned on CPU 1 with the app but I don't think its working right, phone seems faster but I need run some tests ....thanks agn

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Dual Cores Alive?

So there is something that I'm trying to figure out.
I am currently running Virus' Infected Eternity 1.5 r31 and using RCMIX 3D v11 kernel. Regardless whether it is overclocked (which I usually run 1.51 ghz) or standard and regardless of whether running a govenor like lagfree or a SetCPU one like performance, when I open the app SystemPanel Monitor it shows only one core running. According to Freeza's thread, his kernel has "dual cores active" and it shows SystemPanel Monitor with two cores running. I switched to Freeza's kernel with Eternity ROM and and checked again and it only shows one core running.
So what I'm trying to figure out is, is this ROM related or am I really only running one core and the other is not used, or otherwise how do I know if both cores are running?
My phone with Eternity ROM is smooth and runs games and videos well with no choppiness so I think it is ok. I just want to know how we can know that both cores are running.
I would also like an answer to this question..
Its because of SetCPU if you remove it and install say CPU Master your second core will be activated.
I thought the latest SetCPU was setup for dual cores?
raptoro07 said:
I thought the latest SetCPU was setup for dual cores?
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Is it working?
Yes it its working
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Download stability test...run the first, classic test...hit the home button..not the back button...open your system app and it will show you that both cores work, when needed, on the rom you think is only using one core.
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Yes it its working
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What version of SetCPU are you using? I use system panel it will show you both core running at the same time.
SetCPU 2.2.4 donate version
cruecu said:
Download stability test...run the first, classic test...hit the home button..not the back button...open your system app and it will show you that both cores work, when needed, on the rom you think is only using one core.
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This Worked!! Thanks cruecu. Seems as though if the demand is not there the second core is idle for these particular govenors.
So this begs the questions.....Which is better (for speed and/or battery life), running mostly one core at full speed and then the second when only necessary, or running both simultaneously at half speed? I've seen some discussion on this but it's not real clear.
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SetCPU 2.2.4 donate version
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Yes that version breaks full time dual core.
raptoro07 said:
This Worked!! Thanks cruecu. Seems as though if the demand is not there the second core is idle for these particular govenors.
So this begs the questions.....Which is better (for speed and/or battery life), running mostly one core at full speed and then the second when only necessary, or running both simultaneously at half speed? I've seen some discussion on this but it's not real clear.
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I'm not sure one has been proven more effective. I personally don't want both cores running all the time...I don't notice a speed increase since clock speed is still the same. Not sure it matters either way, but I will only run a rom that uses second core only when needed
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I'm not sure one has been proven more effective. I personally don't want both cores running all the time...I don't notice a speed increase since clock speed is still the same. Not sure it matters either way, but I will only run a rom that uses second core only when needed
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For the most part I agree with this statement. The reality is the device feels faster and will benchmark better. The better benchmarking is what sold a lot of people. The question still remains is if the device finishes processing the data in half the time is it using more battery? I personally have not noticed a drain on the battery and it may even be a little better. If you let the device decide when to use the second core it may never use it.
Also on some ROMs like my Fresh ROM you can just delete the dual core script in the init.d folder and it will return to single core mode.
Ok, I have side questions that pertains to this topic.
If we can enable the second core in init.d when the phone boots, AND it actually does useful work then HTC would have had to have put effort into supporting that in their kernel because ASOP Gingerbread does not naively support dual core, right? So that makes me wonder why HTC shipped the 3D with dual core inactive! Unless I'm flat out wrong somewhere HTC must have had a reason, and the only things I can think of are race conditions and battery life.
Full dual cores oc to 1.8 keep my phone nice and warm in the winter
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sprinttouch666 said:
Ok, I have side questions that pertains to this topic.
If we can enable the second core in init.d when the phone boots, AND it actually does useful work then HTC would have had to have put effort into supporting that in their kernel because ASOP Gingerbread does not naively support dual core, right? So that makes me wonder why HTC shipped the 3D with dual core inactive! Unless I'm flat out wrong somewhere HTC must have had a reason, and the only things I can think of are race conditions and battery life.
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Our CPU was not designed to run this way (asynchronous CPU). That is why it is not active all the time. Now Nvidia Tegra processors (synchronous CPU) are designed to run dual core all the time. That also seem to produce better benchmarks.
HTC kernel is designed to run the way the processor was designed. HTC would not override the CPU specs like we would just to make the benchmark better. The theory is that asynchronous CPU would have better battery life. Reality is most XDA members only care about benchmarks so they can show their friends.
zone23 said:
Our CPU was not designed to run this way (asynchronous CPU). That is why it is not active all the time. Now Nvidia Tegra processors (synchronous CPU) are designed to run dual core all the time. That also seem to produce better benchmarks.
HTC kernel is designed to run the way the processor was designed. HTC would not override the CPU specs like we would just to make the benchmark better. The theory is that asynchronous CPU would have better battery life. Reality is most XDA members only care about benchmarks so they can show their friends.
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While I agree with you in principle, I do have both cores active at all times. I have not noticed any difference in battery life. Yet I have noticed a difference of quite a bit less lag while loading applications and flipping through screens than when CPU1 is idle.
Does it really matter in the long run daily use? Not really. It's a fun tweak and I learned something new by utilizing it.
I did not get a truly noticeable difference in benchmark though.
Is there a Kernel that Supports Dual Core for the 2.3.5 Roms (HydroBliss_3.5)?
PMGRANDS said:
Is there a Kernel that Supports Dual Core for the 2.3.5 Roms (HydroBliss_3.5)?
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Not sure which, but I can tell you that I am running this 3.5 rom and both cores show active.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373823

at&t note runs on one processor?!

Ok so im rooted and overclocked and was using setcpu then decided i wanna try something different so i tried system tuner! When i checked the cpu it said that one of the processors are off line! Then i pressed the info button and sure enough it says only reading one! So i went through the settings and found force both cores online!
Since then i have no lag and virtually no checkerboarding on the web! Anyway i was just wondering if im the only one who noticed this and maybe it could help those who say that they are still getting lag on they're roms using dag's kernel!
Also i hope devs will notice this thread since i can't post there yet and take advantage of this how ever they can!
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
blitzer320 said:
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
truth77 said:
Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
if you want both cores on click on boot settings and enable force all cpus online. that heats up your phone and eats more battery though+I do not see any benefits doing that.
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
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I've had it like this for 4 days on average i will take of the charger at 8am now is 8:30pm and i have 27% but i use my navigation for my Job! By 10:30 or so ill have 15% and recharge!
Settings
1836 max
192 min
Governer
Smartassv2
Both cores pushing
Screen off
192 max
In call
384 max
Tomorrow ill post some pics of battery life usage!
And my phone doesn't get any hotter than normal not even while using my navi! Mostly it just gives no lag and better rendering in the browser/maps/etc!!
I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
Broken said:
I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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Same, but having a better processor helps. Like exynos. I bet once we update to ics if it ever happens, the differences will be only minor between processors, as it runs so nice.
Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
canecbr600 said:
Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
I thought I'd play and I have CPU0 running and CPU1 running.
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Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Not entirely true.. the Galaxy Nexus has a kernel governor that turns one core off when the SCREEN IS OFF, but not when the phone is being used. Multiple kernel creators have since implemented this into their kernels. It is called "hot plugging" and it just turns CPU 1 offline when the screen is off and turns it back on when the screen is on
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Just checked mine, rooted and OC with DaG's 0.1 version (first version). When I looked, it said the second CPU was offline. Changed it to online, we'll see how that impacts battery life.
How much of an advantage is smartassv2 anyway?
I just tried this with system tuner and both cpus were working but wone was of and on and zero was always on.
I am running stock rooted. If you just sit yhere and watch it you will see tje sevond core fires and shuts down alot.
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
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Same for me (CPU 0 on, CPU1 off, most times) and I'll say I have noticed no real changes in functionality (speed, rendering, etc) or battery life...
I guess jury is still out or is this a YMMV kind of thing?
I installed system runner and watched the cpus. One was on and the other kicked in periodically
Mine said it was offline as well. Forced it on and am not noticing any difference in speed or temp.
Ill leave it like this to test it further.
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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g2theno said:
Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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As far as I know yes you must have super user permission to alter such system activities
I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to force the second core online, it turns on and off when it needs to.

[Q] Do all the new ICS roms have full dual core support?

Just wondering if all the new ICS roms have full dual core support for the EVO 3d.
Not sure how you test this. Maybe some could explain.
Please Advise.
Thanks!
zcink said:
Just wondering if all the new ICS roms have full dual core support for the EVO 3d.
Not sure how you test this. Maybe some could explain.
Please Advise.
Thanks!
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No, they don't. If you want to enable dual core support just delete mpdesicion from System and edit a file(i don't remember the name). Also, after you booted on the ROM you can download Quadrant Advanced and make a custom Bench, select CPU and you will see if both cores are availables.
HTC Reseller said:
No, they don't. If you want to enable dual core support just delete mpdesicion from System and edit a file(i don't remember the name). Also, after you booted on the ROM you can download Quadrant Advanced and make a custom Bench, select CPU and you will see if both cores are availables.
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Yes I want to do this. Thanks.
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Here you go zcink, check out this thread. Should be the info you are looking for.
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Here you go zcink, check out this thread. Should be the info you are looking for.
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This link was very useful and helpful to me. I'm going to print it out and do it to any rom I flash.
Just one more question on this.
Is this also what you would do for GingerBread roms also?
update:
found the answer here:
cobraboy85 said:
performance on 2.3.4 GB will not increase by having both cores on. this is a common misconception about dual core on that platform. the software is not programmed to utilize synchronized multi thread - they handle tasks independently. you are wasting battery, with no performance increase, when using dual core on gingerbread......
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OK I'm still learning Android.
What has been sort of puzzling to me now suddenly makes sense.
In most of the ICS threads I've been following, people are raving about how good the battery life is. People saying I watched 30 movies, made 118 phone calls and my battery is still 97% charged. Ok I'm exaggerating but anyhow making some unbelievable claims about battery life in ICS.
From what I've reading here at XDA and other forums, ICS taps more resources and uses more memory than GB did to run apps. So why so much better battery life?
Could it be that ICS not being dual core support unless you make it so is only using half the power of the CPU? Sort of like putting a 2 bbl carburetor on a Corvette engine where a 4 bbl would unleash the beast but use more gas?
zcink said:
OK I'm still learning Android.
What has been sort of puzzling to me now suddenly makes sense.
In most of the ICS threads I've been following, people are raving about how good the battery life is. People saying I watched 30 movies, made 118 phone calls and my battery is still 97% charged. Ok I'm exaggerating but anyhow making some unbelievable claims about battery life in ICS.
From what I've reading here at XDA and other forums, ICS taps more resources and uses more memory than GB did to run apps. So why so much better battery life?
Could it be that ICS not being dual core support unless you make it so is only using half the power of the CPU? Sort of like putting a 2 bbl carburetor on a Corvette engine where a 4 bbl would unleash the beast but use more gas?
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Latest ics releases have finally fixed the cpu1 always online. System tuner pro can show you current states on CPU states. Again system tuner pro can also FORCE dual core CPU always on.
Better battery life comes from the 3.0 kernel which has better power management, amongst other things.
The second CPU kicks on as needed unless you force it always on, which drains more battery.
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scariola said:
Latest ics releases have finally fixed the cpu1 always online. System tuner pro can show you current states on CPU states. Again system tuner pro can also FORCE dual core CPU always on.
Better battery life comes from the 3.0 kernel which has better power management, amongst other things.
The second CPU kicks on as needed unless you force it always on, which drains more battery.
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So it would seem by getting system tuner Pro you could turn this feature on and off like a switch.
When you want both cores running for maximum performance just turn it on in system tuner Pro, then turn if off when your done with it?
That would be alot better and easier than editing file commands.
zcink said:
So it would seem by getting system tuner Pro you could turn this feature on and off like a switch.
When you want both cores running for maximum performance just turn it on in system tuner Pro, then turn if off when your done with it?
That would be alot better and easier than editing file commands.
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Something like that. System tuner pro can force dual core by init.d script or after boot completed. It has boot settings, which you choose. A reboot is needed after changing I believe.
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Something like that. System tuner pro can force dual core by init.d script or after boot completed. It has boot settings, which you choose. A reboot is needed after changing I believe.
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Interesting. Well its fun learning all this.
Maybe down the road as things get fully developed someone will come out with an app or widget. One where you just click it and turns on both cores on the fly. Call it TurboThruster or something like that. The icon could be flames shooting out of a tailpipe.
As phones develop they'll have quad core and more and more..........
scariola said:
Better battery life comes from the 3.0 kernel which has better power management, amongst other things.
The second CPU kicks on as needed unless you force it always on, which drains more battery.
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I've been running ZR3dX (CDMA ICS ROM) which turns on dual core by default. My battery life is still amazing, especially with the screen off. One of the power management things it does is control the radios better too.

[Q] Why aint the SGS2 second core aint ONLINE??

Ok My SGS2 is a month old now.. Initially I had Galaxy ACE so was knowing ROOTING and custom ROMs stuff.. Now today morning got a doubt is the second core working(Probably disabled!) because it got heat in AC room! And so installed a System Tuner Pro app and got to know the second CPU was OFFLINE!!! I thought may be not much load so loaded around 6 apps and started 7th no lag but still second core OFFLINE... Can anyone clarify my doubt... Else my second CPU got screwed up
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Ok My SGS2 is a month old now.. Initially I had Galaxy ACE so was knowing ROOTING and custom ROMs stuff.. Now today morning got a doubt is the second core working(Probably disabled!) because it got heat in AC room! And so installed a System Tuner Pro app and got to know the second CPU was OFFLINE!!! I thought may be not much load so loaded around 6 apps and started 7th no lag but still second core OFFLINE... Can anyone clarify my doubt... Else my second CPU got screwed up
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it gets activated only when required else it will be offline
if u have siyah kernel installed along with Extweaks u can check the same under CPU tab
under Hotplug mode u have the options
1)Cpu Hotplug (default) - thats the second core switchs on/off dynamically
2)second core always on- will turn on second core always
3)second core always off- will turn off second core always
Sun90 said:
it gets activated only when required else it will be offline
if u have siyah kernel installed along with Extweaks u can check the same under CPU tab
under Hotplug mode u have the options
1)Cpu Hotplug (default) - thats the second core switchs on/off dynamically
2)second core always on- will turn on second core always
3)second core always off- will turn off second core always
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Good to see ur from Mysore .. How do i know second core is still alive !!
Prashanthme said:
Good to see ur from Mysore .. How do i know second core is still alive !!
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u can check the link below to understand more about the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572937
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u can check the link below to understand more about the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572937
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Thanks button click madide.. Dude ok i got to know that Hotplug... But now how to know second core s working or not... because in stock it was working ok sometimes it used to come as green in system tuner app.. Now even after heavy use it aint

crank it up.

now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
blackbass595 said:
now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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I was looking stuff up on that today. The highest I could find documented was 1900 on the cpu and 800 on the gpu.
For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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hey thats good to know...like i stated though. if there ever was a phone that needed over clock this one IS NOT it. i cant bog it down right now and believe me ive tried. someone out there might can but i cant.
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For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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I just like to play around with different kernels but the kernel I was using def made the device snappier and I had some killer benchmarks! But you are right though! Custom kernels on this device is not really necessary...
I plan on building a custom kernel then, hopefully tomorrow night or possibly Saturday. I do have some plans to improve it, but nothing related to the CPU or GPU going faster, just having other stuff operate better and getting rid of anything not needed.
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1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
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I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
DaWolf850 said:
I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
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That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
IvanNCase said:
That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
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HA. My TBolt stayed stable at 1200, but ANYTHING higher than that and it would crap out on me.
I could run my bolt stable at 1700 all day. Kept it at 14 for a month no issues. Stayed at 13 the rest of the time. Course at 17 it was like it was running on a watch battery with the amount of time it would last. Lol
Eh I ran 1.6Ghz on my Thunderbolt 24/7 and with the 2750mah battery it lasted me days.
On a phone like that there was a significant improvement to the end user that justified the overclock. Now on the Note 2 I'd expect there to be very few who would want an overclock at all. I am part of the very few however. I play a lot of emulators on my phone and for N64 and Playstation I need all the raw CPU power I can get. Yep, even on this beast of a phone I still get some lag and stuttering on those emulators. The reason being is the same as PC gaming. AMD thinks that by adding more and more cores to their processors they can win the performance arena. Unfortunately they are wrong. Intel has the right idea, 4 cores is plenty now let's improve the efficiency and performance of those specific cores.
Same goes for our phones. Quad core is the most I'd ever want in my computers, anymore is just a waste. Now let's get better architecture for the processor to maximize clock-for-clock performance. And overclocking those cores helps it in apps that don't support more than one or two cores, because the baseline performance for each core is boosted.
So yeah, can't wait for a 1.8Ghz kernel

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