Since Sunday my Aria has started heating up weirdly. When charging and while using, there is tremendous heating in the area right behind the optical touchpad.
Also the battery is not charging properly and discharging quickly.
I first thought it may be a battery problem, but wanted some genuine views regarding this.
Will changing my battery remove this issue? Has anyone faced anything similar?
There will always be heat around the touchpad whenever you are charging while using it. Happens to me all the time at least. Unless your battery exceeded 45 degrees Celsius, then that's abnormal.
You can track your battery stats for example, heat with apps in Market.
You said it discharges awfully quickly. Mind telling me, how long does it take for it to discharge from 100% to below 10%?
Really quickly.
For example, I charged the phone whole night from a wall charger, while switched off.
In the morning, I turn on the phone, it shows me 19% battery. I rebooted: 8%. Rebooted again: 2%. This all happened in about 5 minutes after taking the phone off the charger.
The phone used the 2% battery for about 15 minutes on standby, with no internet, before dying.
Now it does not even turn on. The battery is definitely gone, since it has bulged a bit. But I want to be sure before buying a new battery, if the new battery will face the same fate or not.
For now, I have given the phone to my brother who will test the battery in his phone. Let's see.
There's definitely a problem with the battery. It is advised you do not charge a faulty battery. It may damage your device or worse, explode depending on what the fault may be.
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But I want to be sure before buying a new battery, if the new battery will face the same fate or not.
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New battery should fix the problem. There's no reason to suspect that the phone is causing the problem.
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So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
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From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
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Right but I can watch the meter go all the way to 100%... pull the plug and it goes down to 93% within seconds.
funny thing phone did the same thing...took it off the charger this morn and it dropped down to 95
I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
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"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
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All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
i was having the same issues - 90% right after unplugging. had to charge the phone 3 times in ONE day and i never even touched the phone the whole day except to check the battery percentage.
brought it into verizon, they gave me a new battery and now it lasts me the entire day. when i pull the plug out now, it drops steadily like a normal battery should. i tried bump charging before i brought it in and it didn't help at all
The same thing has been happening to my dads Thunderbolt.
He charged it overnight, took it to work and was losing about 1% per minute without touching the phone. The only time it was touched was about 1 timer per hour to take down the battery percentage for his log.
He took it to the verizon store and they told him he should not expect anything longer than 4 hours of battery life without touching the phone..what kind of BS is that?
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So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
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I'm having the exact opposite problem with the batteries--just ordered two of the 1600 Seidios that delivered yesterday and even after running pretty much down, fully charging overnite with the T-bolt powered down, drops to 95% immediately. Conversely, the OEM battery would stay at 100% for hours if the phone was idle (screen off / receiving any emails and SMS). Go figger.
There is a post in the Android Central forums on the 1600 battery compared to stock. After testing, they found that the two perform almost identically. Basically, it isn't worth replacing unless you go with the big HTC extended battery. Although having a spare isn't a bad idea. If only that battery door wasn't so tough to pry off when you need to change it...
nexus s had the same problem its nothing big though
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All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
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Most of us probably won't have the phones long enough to see any possible damage. Starting off at a full 100% is a lot better than immediately dropping to 95 or so after pulling it off charger. It's kind of like the gas gauge in my truck. Stays full a while but once it moves off of full you can watch it drop. lol
i never faced it before bt recntly keeping the cell charged after 100% even its 10 minitues or so...the battery heats up...anyone facing it?
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i never faced it before bt recntly keeping the cell charged after 100% even its 10 minitues or so...the battery heats up...anyone facing it?
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1. try clean the contact points on the phone and the battery.
2. replace battery
3. the radio nightmare has come to visit you.
I face it too...
hei i'm facing it too!!
a167195 said:
i never faced it before bt recntly keeping the cell charged after 100% even its 10 minitues or so...the battery heats up...anyone facing it?
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The phone should not overcharge the battery, lipoly batteries or rather the charging mechanism shuts down when it reaches capacity. They do not trickle charge. Lipoly batteries take approximately 1hr-1hr30 to charge, after that the charging circuit switches on and off as it drops a few percent.
Most lipoly phones 'lie' about when they are full so people dont get concerned as they appear to drain whilst still plugged in. They could infact still register 100% even when they are at 90%!
In the last stage of charging they can get warm. Even though the guage states charged it may still be finishing the last 'virtual' 10%. After 10 mins the battery should cool down, if it doesnt then there could be a fault.
Overcharging lipoly using unconventional techniques will lead to explosive consequencies.
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Hey Everyone,
I apologize if this is a repost. I know I read somewhere (I believe here) about a similar issue, but I couldn't find it in searching.
A little background - AT&T SGS2 running stock rom (2.3.4), rooted, using a custom kernel (2.6.35.6) I got off of here.
Anyway, my phone has been working great for months. All of a sudden, my battery indicator is completely wacky and innacurate. It seems to have started after I came back from a trip and had to put it in 'airplane mode' a few times.
The battery level indicator goes down very quickly, and is not a true indication of my phone's charge level. I noticed it a couple days ago (after we came back) where after about 6 hours, I was down to 40%. Normally after a full day's usage I am still at ~80% by the time I get home from work. Since my phone had been running for weeks without a reboot, I decided to reboot it, thinking maybe I had some overzealous background processes running. It came back online with the battery indicator at 8% (down from 40% a minute prior)! After about 30mins or so, it began to go up, and settled around 14%. It stayed at this level for hours, until I plugged it in when I went to bed.
The next morning, same thing, it would lose 1-2% every few minutes until it got down to <10%, where I would get a warning about a low battery level. But once it hit that mark, it would stay there for hours and my phone would work perfectly fine.
As I mentioend above, I thought I read a similar story where the recommendation was to turn the phone off, charge it up all the way, and then turn it back on after it was fully charged. I tried that last night, but my phone is down to 87% after only 2 hours of non-use.
I've made sure that UV/OC'ing was disabled, that no background apps are doing anything weird, etc. And it's not like my battery is really dying quickly - it's just that Android thinks it is. I've checked the level using multiple programs, and all report the same incorrect information.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix it? Thanks!
You have encountered two separate issues, one of which is widely documented (fuel gauge reaction to rebooting), one of which is unexpected but possible on UCKH7 (abnormal drain).
But it doesn't look like the battery is really draining that much quicker, only that it's showing that it is. For example, while it might take me only 3 hours to go from 100%-10%, I'll stay at 10% for hours.
It's like the battery is no longer calibrated properly.
Do you use Samsung original charger? If not, try. It should go away.
Take your battery out for a few minutes. The SG2 differs in that it uses a chip for battery calibration/stats. You need to cut power to it completely to reset it. Now, if it still does it afterward, either the battery is faulty, or the phone's ability to measure voltages is wonky.
Also, are you using the phone's Power Saving mode? Maybe the battery is dying but the phone is taking steps to make it last longer?
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Do you use Samsung original charger? If not, try. It should go away.
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I used to never use my Samsung charger and never had issues. However, months of using my blackberry charger has rendered it now ineffective. The charger dongle was slightly smaller, and its continuous wiggling messed up my phone's power port slightly. It's a good thing that my Samsung charger still works.
When we were on vacation, I was using my wife's charger for her phone (T-Mobile G2x) so we didn't need to take two (seemingly) identical chargers with us. My understanding was that the pinout and voltage were all the same, so I didn't think it would matter. Maybe that had an impact?
Normally I use my Samsung charger, and have been since we got back.
I haven't tried removing the battery yet, since its in a hard shell case and was hoping I could resolve the issue without taking it apart. But I'll try that tonight.
Power saving mode is disabled. I've also disabled BT, Wi-Fi, GPS, and shut down every app. In the time since my first post (84%) and now, I'm down to 58%, and my phone has been sitting on my desk unused the entire time.
According to the built in battery monitor, Android OS accounts for 92% of battery usage, with Display at 3%, Cell Standby at 3% and Phone Idle at 2%.
As I mentioned above, I thought I read something about a 'trick' to reset the battery gauge by turning the phone off, charging it to 100%, unplugging it, and then turning it back on. Was I mistaken?
Thanks for the responses.
FYI - I just pulled the battery, let it sit for a minute, and plugged it back in.
Battery level went from 58% to 39% after it powered back on.
I'll try charging it again to see if it has any noticeable impact.
Oh, I did want to mention that I've been very religious when it comes to charging my phone properly and trying to "take care" of the battery. I never let it get below 20% (outside of recently due to the issue), I always charge it up to 100%, I never do quick "let me just charge it for 15 minutes to make a call" type charges, I always use a wall charger and not a car charger, etc.
Down to 38% during the time it took me to type this...
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When we were on vacation, I was using my wife's charger for her phone (T-Mobile G2x) so we didn't need to take two (seemingly) identical chargers with us. My understanding was that the pinout and voltage were all the same, so I didn't think it would matter. Maybe that had an impact?
Normally I use my Samsung charger, and have been since we got back.
I haven't tried removing the battery yet, since its in a hard shell case and was hoping I could resolve the issue without taking it apart. But I'll try that tonight.
Power saving mode is disabled. I've also disabled BT, Wi-Fi, GPS, and shut down every app. In the time since my first post (84%) and now, I'm down to 58%, and my phone has been sitting on my desk unused the entire time.
According to the built in battery monitor, Android OS accounts for 92% of battery usage, with Display at 3%, Cell Standby at 3% and Phone Idle at 2%.
As I mentioned above, I thought I read something about a 'trick' to reset the battery gauge by turning the phone off, charging it to 100%, unplugging it, and then turning it back on. Was I mistaken?
Thanks for the responses.
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That to me sounds like you might have an app creating a wakelock and preventing it from going into deep sleep.
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But it doesn't look like the battery is really draining that much quicker, only that it's showing that it is. For example, while it might take me only 3 hours to go from 100%-10%, I'll stay at 10% for hours.
It's like the battery is no longer calibrated properly.
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With the exception of high load immediately following a reset (which is why it goes funky on a low-battery reboot), it's basically impossible for the fuel gauge to go out of calibration. It's designed to continuously converge towards truth.
Check the raw battery voltage when it seems to be funny. If your voltage is consistently low, you might be experiencing a hardware failure (like maybe the battery's protection circuit is on its way out.)
After pulling the battery, putting it back in and recharging it, it seems to be working well now. Too early to say for sure, but I went the entire afternoon and evening (up until now) with some mild usage, and am only at 84%. So far so good!
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FYI - I just pulled the battery, let it sit for a minute, and plugged it back in.
Battery level went from 58% to 39% after it powered back on.
I'll try charging it again to see if it has any noticeable impact.
Oh, I did want to mention that I've been very religious when it comes to charging my phone properly and trying to "take care" of the battery. I never let it get below 20% (outside of recently due to the issue), I always charge it up to 100%, I never do quick "let me just charge it for 15 minutes to make a call" type charges, I always use a wall charger and not a car charger, etc.
Down to 38% during the time it took me to type this...
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The phone has a voltage drop which causes the drop from 58 to 39 when you reboot it. I'm not a fan of it either.
My appologies if this question has been answered somewhere else, I could not find any other threads with a similar situation.
My phone was dropped and ever since then it has not shown me the right battery level. It will charge on USB or AC up to 99% and stop. I connected it to AC power 30 hours ago and it never gave me the green light. This is after a full drain and then recharge. It did however stop charging at some point. I noticed no light was on, red or green, turned on the phone and my battery had gone from 99% to 41% in 22 minutes. I plugged it into USB and it appears to be charging back up. My widget now shows 84% with 4334mV (i dont know if this is right or not).
It is not an issue with the battery. My wife has the same phone and I swapped batteries. Mine works fine in her phone and I have the same problem with hers.
My other issue is that when I use the phone off the charger it will not show me the level accurately when it is draining battery. Example being, I unplug the phone at 99%, within 5 minutes I'm down to 92% (i know this is not unusual because of how the batteries charge). But, I will stay at 92% for hours and hours, with moderate use of internet, phone, and apps. Then it will fall from 92 to 60 ish in a few minutes and do the same thing. Sometimes it will tell me that I'm getting low (under 15%) other times it just turns off a second or two after the notification. If I plug in the phone and turn it on it shows me 1% and charges up to 99%.
In the few minutes I have been typing my phone charged up to 91% with 4336mV.
I was running ViperRom ICS when the issue started. Restored it back to Stock with no root and the issue remained. Now I am running Mean Rom ICS with the same issues.
I have cleared the battery cache in recovery too.
Any help would be appreciated.
If you kiss it. your phone will love you and it'll be all better. NOW KISS IT AND TELL YOUR PHONE YOU'RE SORRY FOR DROPPING IT! LOL!
Based on my experience with batteries of all kinds, it sounds like one of the cells may be damaged. Best bet is to get a new battery. They are decently cheap for a good one. Im actually looking for an extended unit myself. If you come across one, please PM me.
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That was my first thought but when I swap my battery with my wife's battery I have the same problem. Both batteries work fine in her phone but not in mine.
Sorry to bring this up again, my bad. But seriously you are not the only one with this issue.. I had the same problem since stock, swap battery didn't help either.
Hello, i have a problem with my EVO 3D. Battery behavior is strange time-by-time it doesn't charge, sometimes charges good, i cant understand what to do, did hard reset, superwipe+clear rom. Here is screenshots:
here is night charge, it charges, then discharges, then charges again.
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And here it started to charge, then discharged and after few hours started to charge
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Here you can see deep sleep works most the time in Wakelock Detector App
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And here is Cpu Spy app, it shows only 32% deep sleep
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I noticed, that battery right charges when phone is power off. I deleted most apps, tryed to analize cpu use by wakelock detector, but nothing can see there. Maybe someone knows good app to analize the battery leaks.
Installed Battery Stats Pro, it signalised me a battery draining by system and multimedia, so im more confused...
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I dont know what ot think, can i be sure if i will buy new battery it will help, or will no?
Sorry for my bad english, and thanks for answers.
Maybe its scanning for new media all the time, it doesn't seem like battery or cable but there cheap enough to try.
Badass battery monitor I used.
Sorry this is not very helpful.
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Maybe its scanning for new media all the time, it doesn't seem like battery or cable but there cheap enough to try.
Badass battery monitor I used.
Sorry this is not very helpful.
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Some days it starts to charge normally, some days it fully stops charge, so i'm confused what is it Maybe buy new battery is the simple way to know, is it battery or no, thanks anyway.
Update. Today morning my phone didn't wake me up. It didn't boot at all, whole day i cant boot it, just blinking battery led on power on, like battery is off(battery was around 80% past evening, phone was whole night on charging).Voltmeter showed me 3.6V(actually it is around 0%). Whole day i charged it in the car, at work, but no boot, just blinking led and then power off. Evening after work i came home, and what do you think? It booted, lol... I think it is battery, or power chip guilty. I will buy new battery, and then post here the result. If someone had symptoms like that, post answers please. Thanks!
Have you tried chargeing battery with an external charger?
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Have you tried chargeing battery with an external charger?
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Yes, and it indicates battery charge with led like it real charges. If it doesn't charge, LED on external battery doesn't light. So i can know charges it, or not If it not charges, i restart devise until it will charge, and after 2-3 restarts it charges.
1 thing i noticed, when it stopped charge finally, i did discharge it, until battery is 0 charge(started device some time after discharge, so i can know it is 0), then charged for 100% and it worked fine 1 day, but then again began to behave strangely.
I think fault is the battery,and i am waiting for new battery, when i receive it, i will write, is it fault of bad battery or not. Sorry for my bad english, and thanks.
If someone had something like this, please tell me, "who" is guilty, battery or phone.
upd. Finally problem gone after replacing the battery, I'm glad the problem was in the battery controller, not the phone controller.