The design of this thing is awesome. Pair it with those monster 14 pound EACH speakers and man, that's drool worthy.
However, this device is kinda confusing to me. Is it a dumbed down receiver? Is it a dumbed down Google TV device? I can play vids from YouTube and and Google Play and music and that's it?
Where are the shots of what ever interface this will have? Where is Netflix? Huluu Plus? Amazon Prime? This seems to be the most limited - as far as what can be done with it from the get-go - device I have seen El Goog push out in a long while. Sad.
As good as it looks, it seems rushed to me. Why pay $299 for something that is simply novelty and available in many different flavors already?
Till they add a bit to it, or someone hacks it and makes it much better. Sorry Goog, I pass.
While they were doing the presentation, I understood it as it was just a receiver that connects to some speakers or a tv, so once you connect to it (I forget if it was WIFI or NFC) you can just play music or videos on the speakers or tv; and anybody that connects to it is able to play what they want on it.
It looks great and all but for $300 its definitely not worth the price tag.
This is on the network so I hope that it has easy access to Windows shares and that it will be able to play 1080p MKVs with lossless audio.
I haven't played around with playback on devices.
Even though it is pricey if it has this full feature set then I may pick this up. Would be a nice improvement over plugging in a laptop to the TV.
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This is on the network so I hope that it has easy access to Windows shares and that it will be able to play 1080p MKVs with lossless audio.
I haven't played around with playback on devices.
Even though it is pricey if it has this full feature set then I may pick this up. Would be a nice improvement over plugging in a laptop to the TV.
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From what I was told yesterday, it won't. The guys here at IO said it would only stream from them (movies and music stored in their cloud or Play Store).
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I'm hoping there is at least some logic within the box that allows you to play more sophisticated content.
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From what I was told yesterday, it won't. The guys here at IO said it would only stream from them (movies and music stored in their cloud or Play Store).
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It's $300 because it's supposedly actually manufactured in America... so do with that what you will
I'm still very confused as to what it is/how it works. Doesn't seem worthwhile.
seems like the coolest looking piece of crap.
The engadget preview says much of the price is because of the built in amp, which, IMHO is totally unnecessary. I have a surround sound system.. why would I want stereo sound from that puny little thing?
Drop the amp and $100 off the pricetag and this thing will sell itself. Oh, and unlock the damn thing. Only plays stuff from the play store? Google is starting to sound like apple...
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Google is starting to sound like apple...
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Really? It has a USB port explicitly for the purpose of hacking it. I have no doubt the Nexus Q will be a cool device to own once there's enough dev support for it.
It seems like Google released the Nexus Q with the idea that the android community would figure out what to do with it.
Nexus q + dev support = sold. However I will wait for the support first instead of buying and hoping....
Its an interesting device, but I'm disappointed that they at least didn't add an "airplay" style connection for displaying your phone or tablet screen on the tv via wifi. That would at least make it more appealing for the price
I sat there during the keynote thinking what a killer feature this would have been for a google tv. Instead it's a more expensive and more limited device.
I came away from i/o feeling like the google tv is being de-prioritized and they want to push this device instead because it's locked down to google play content. There were zero mentions of google tv during either of the keynotes. There were sessions but after sitting through a few it seemed as if all the new and exciting things were happening in other product lines. I don't mean this as a dig at the google tv devs. I just think the company has made a cooporate decision to lock this down.
Maybe I'll feel a little different after unboxing it tonight and playing with it some but I just can't see myself getting on board this product line and I'm a google fanboy. It just feels like a limitations by design concept.
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Really? It has a USB port explicitly for the purpose of hacking it. I have no doubt the Nexus Q will be a cool device to own once there's enough dev support for it.
It seems like Google released the Nexus Q with the idea that the android community would figure out what to do with it.
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That's cool. But inconsistent. Not everyone is tech savvy enough to even flash anything and I would be more apt to group those individuals with ones who would use the banana plugs on the back. It doesn't take an audiophile to desire more than 2 channels of sound.
I think its a brilliant device and ill probably get one once the price goes down. I just think it may increase sales to offer one without the amp - is it really that big of a selling point?
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That's cool. But inconsistent. Not everyone is tech savvy enough to even flash anything and I would be more apt to group those individuals with ones who would use the banana plugs on the back. It doesn't take an audiophile to desire more than 2 channels of sound.
I think its a brilliant device and ill probably get one once the price goes down. I just think it may increase sales to offer one without the amp - is it really that big of a selling point?
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Agreed. This isn't like our Android phones running custom ROMs. You buy an Android phone, ANY Android phone, and you can:
1. Make phone calls
2. Send text messages
3. Use email
4. Browse the web
5. Download, install, and use the full Play Store catalog of apps
All without any hacking at all. When you install a custom rom, you're basically getting a few added features, customization, optimization, maybe the ability to overclock or run a select few apps that need root. You know, little things that aren't necessary but are nice to have.
The Nexus Q is different because it's gimped right out of the box. You basically can't do anything with it, other than play music and videos from the Play Store only (and who even has a huge collection of that stuff?). Even the very first Apple TV was capable of streaming content through a local network, even if it was limited to stuff you added to your iTunes library.
I appreciate Google reaching out to the dev community, but they can't rely on them to do all their work for them. What the Nexus Q should have been was a tiny Android desktop computer, controllable directly with an Android phone using a specific app (something like Gmote) and able to run any and all Android apps. I'm excited when I see thumb-sized Android computers available for under $100. The NQ could have been a cooler, more premium version of that, but as it is, it's both overpriced AND has no features.
YouTube app
So not living in US forces me to use Music and the YouTube app. Now it's time to do some raging.
Playing youtube vids on my tv is awesome through the app and all that. But I want to be able to play several videos. I have several playlists but the only option on a playlist in the youtube app is to delete it. Opening the playlists gives you the possibility to play one (and only one) video in a row. It really sucks. I don't want to open the app every time a video has ended :/
Guys what are you complaining about? Your where given cool toy for free because you are developers. You are suppose to find better applications for it . Just do it. Few years ago you had T-Mobile android phone without anything useful on it , nobody completed
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All you guys in here complaining are just not dev or inspiring to be one cause from what I seen you're able to load a launcher to it from adb and stream netflix in 1080 so you guys dont really understand android or google yet but you will.
Sadly, I will buy a multitude of these for a project if someone can get the damn thing rooted and unlocked...
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Hi all,
I was hoping someone could offer some advice.
I am due to be working away from home for half the month and at the moment my set up at home consists of a beast of a gaming rig. I don't want to fork out for an expensive gaming laptop and thought the prime might be a good option for me.
So a few questions...
1. How do the remote desktop applications fare on the prime? Essentially I would need to use the prime to wake up my pc at home, control torrent downloads and maybe play a game with low graphic demands like football manager (i'm not expecting BF3 or other FPS...could an MMO work via remote desktop? like TOR?)
2. With regards to the "cloud storage" do you get 2gb with the transformer prime? if so can this also be accessed via a pc at home? So I could for example...
Remotely download a movie.
Put the movie file onto the cloud storage.
Access the movie file from my prime so that I can watch it in an area without wifi.
3. Is there a way to add a 3g dongle to the prime?
4. I am due a phone upgrade in March. I currently have a HTC desire which has stood the test of time for it's 2 year contract. Money is a little tight so I was considering getting my phone upgrade and sticking it on ebay to cover most of the prime's cost. I figure I only need a phone for calls and the built in sat nav and the prime can do the rest. also my HTC desire can only get me £75 from mobile recycling places.
5. As I have to wait until March is there a tablet I have overlooked which will be released in March that would be superior to this...basically if i am waiting until March should I hold out for something else?
Thanks in advance for the replies everyone!
John
advance for the replies everyone
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advance for the replies everyone
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Funny, any chance of getting a serious answer though?
100+ views and no proper response?
am i doing something wrong?
1 the preloaded software only works when the laptop is already in but it is smooth enough to play something simple
2 yes download movie in PC upload top cloud storage them you can watch it without wifi our already some services allow that
3 no 3g dongle it's a wifi tablet
4 get the nexus a you can find them cheap and feet ics on them
5 tablets well be the same by March all quad core all same resolution that's my view anyway all you can do its wait and pick on personal opinion
tylermaciaszek said:
1 the preloaded software only works when the laptop is already in but it is smooth enough to play something simple
2 yes download movie in PC upload top cloud storage them you can watch it without wifi our already some services allow that
3 no 3g dongle it's a wifi tablet
4 get the nexus a you can find them cheap and feet ics on them
5 tablets well be the same by March all quad core all same resolution that's my view anyway all you can do its wait and pick on personal opinion
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Hi thanks for the response!
As per 1. Could you elaborate a bit more about the pre loaded software...also what do you mean by "only works when the laptop is already in"
Thanks,
John
cleverley1986 said:
Hi thanks for the response!
As per 1. Could you elaborate a bit more about the pre loaded software...also what do you mean by "only works when the laptop is already in"
Thanks,
John
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I meant already on* so the laptop has to be open already so you can't turn it on from the tablet and go into the my cloud app then my desktop there is the software to do this
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Hi all,
1. How do the remote desktop applications fare on the prime? Essentially I would need to use the prime to wake up my pc at home, control torrent downloads and maybe play a game with low graphic demands like football manager (i'm not expecting BF3 or other FPS...could an MMO work via remote desktop? like TOR?)
I use Teamviewer, it runs the computer just like I was in front of it, never tried major gaming on it though. I don't think it would work well since most of the login apps out there decrease colors and other things to enhance performance.
2. With regards to the "cloud storage" do you get 2gb with the transformer prime? if so can this also be accessed via a pc at home? So I could for example...
You get 8 gb, and yes you can access/sync it from any computer. I use it to sync my work, Prime, and home computer files
Remotely download a movie.
Put the movie file onto the cloud storage.
Access the movie file from my prime so that I can watch it in an area without wifi.
In order to do that it will have to be downloaded first to your prime, but it can be done.
3. Is there a way to add a 3g dongle to the prime?
Don't know
4. I am due a phone upgrade in March. I currently have a HTC desire which has stood the test of time for it's 2 year contract. Money is a little tight so I was considering getting my phone upgrade and sticking it on ebay to cover most of the prime's cost. I figure I only need a phone for calls and the built in sat nav and the prime can do the rest. also my HTC desire can only get me £75 from mobile recycling places.
5. As I have to wait until March is there a tablet I have overlooked which will be released in March that would be superior to this...basically if i am waiting until March should I hold out for something else?
right now it really is a waiting game to see what other tablets come out by then, if any. Probably the Ipad3 will be out, and I would guess 1-2 more Tegra 3 tabs, but they may hit production delays just like the prime did, no one really knows, right now it is a crap shoot. The great part is this tab is going to be competitive with anything that comes out next year for the most part.
Thanks in advance for the replies everyone!
John
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Ok, my msg is too short....
You can control your PC over the internet using TeamViewer. No, you won't be able to play an MMO or do other major gaming on it. I guarantee you that TOR will be a slideshow, you'll be able to gather nodes (if you log near them) and manage Crew Missions but that's about it.
If you are running Windows7 you will need to use a Magic Packet to wake your PC to manage torrents, etc. I believe there is also an Android app that will remotely manage Mircotorrent (aka uTorrent) remotely without requiring you to manage your PC.
You can share your files via DropBox (or similar) as long as you are mindful of the 2GB limit.
No better tablet has been announced for March release yet, and if it were (given the industry standard of badly slipped release dates) I wouldn't count on it. Now if one had been announced with a January release....
You can remote in using Splashtop HD to remote in. It transmits both video and audio. Just have to install remote viewer software on the pc.
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In relation to the 3g single question, Asus feel that as android phones can tether then peeople would just tether to their prime. Obviously they are assuming that everyone with a prime will already have a smart phone with tethering available, this is a stretch.
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wow some fantastic comments thank you all.
I think there has to be a limit to expectation here. I'm not expecting the remote desktop to run things perfectly but it won't be it's primary function otherwise I'd just get a laptop.
So £500 then...I wonder if carphonewarehouse would do a deal if you buy a contract from them.
splashtop HD or built in splashtop in mycloud in mydesktop should work fine for video or gaming. just make sure to load reviewer on to PC. pretty simple setup. load reviewer on PC. load on tablet. enter names and passwords on both devices and your good to go.
another thing to look at for gaming is OnLive. its out for Android. allows you to play PC/console/Indie games through the cloud on OnLive servers. response time is fastest out there and basically no lag. feels just as if you natively playing the game. there are some great games up there like PC/Nvidia optimized Batman Arkham City, Homefront fps, Metro 2033, unreal tournament(PC version), etc.. the games look and play great on the prime. no loss in quality basically. the app is free from marketplace. free to make an account. you get to play all the games with a free 30 min. trial period. you can flat out buy the game but best seems to be the bundle package. for $9.99 a month you have unlimited access to 100's of top notch PC/console games. I was playing Darksiders, through OnLive, on my prime. no lag at all, graphics looked sick. definitely a cool experience and great deal considering the caliber and number of games they have up there.
demandarin said:
splashtop HD or built in splashtop in mycloud in mydesktop should work fine for video or gaming. just make sure to load reviewer on to PC. pretty simple setup. load reviewer on PC. load on tablet. enter names and passwords on both devices and your good to go.
another thing to look at for gaming is OnLive. its out for Android. allows you to play PC/console/Indie games through the cloud on OnLive servers. response time is fastest out there and basically no lag. feels just as if you natively playing the game. there are some great games up there like PC/Nvidia optimized Batman Arkham City, Homefront fps, Metro 2033, unreal tournament(PC version), etc.. the games look and play great on the prime. no loss in quality basically. the app is free from marketplace. free to make an account. you get to play all the games with a free 30 min. trial period. you can flat out buy the game but best seems to be the bundle package. for $9.99 a month you have unlimited access to 100's of top notch PC/console games. I was playing Darksiders, through OnLive, on my prime. no lag at all, graphics looked sick. definitely a cool experience and great deal considering the caliber and number of games they have up there.
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NICE! I never needed a reason for onlive...I'll have to check it out.
SO I rented Death Proof from the play store, I hooked up my Prime to my Samsung TV, made sure my input was set to just scan, since 16x9 caused overscan, hit play and all I got was sound and no movie, unplug cable movie plays fine on Prime. So I thought OK maybe it's a streaming problem, so I downloaded it instead of streaming it, same result. Came to work today and hooked my monitor up with a different cable, same result.
My Prime isnt unlocked, just rooted. I am able to play other files and play games just fine over hdmi, but no go for play rentals?
Whats up with that google/Asus?
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SO I rented Death Proof from the play store, I hooked up my Prime to my Samsung TV, made sure my input was set to just scan, since 16x9 caused overscan, hit play and all I got was sound and no movie, unplug cable movie plays fine on Prime. So I thought OK maybe it's a streaming problem, so I downloaded it instead of streaming it, same result. Came to work today and hooked my monitor up with a different cable, same result.
My Prime isnt unlocked, just rooted. I am able to play other files and play games just fine over hdmi, but no go for play rentals?
Whats up with that google/Asus?
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Please search the forum, the topic has already been discussed multiple times.
Due to copyrighted reason Google doesn't allow movie rented from the tablets to be transferred to a bigger screen.
Thanks for the reply.
You try to play by the rules (purchasing a rental) and they restrict that you can't watch it on the big screen, thats crap and makes people do the download thing.
I had the same question. I guess there will be no renting from Google, they really limited themselves, who wants to watch the movie on a 10 inch screen with a 46 inch in the room?
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I had the same question. I guess there will be no renting from Google, they really limited themselves, who wants to watch the movie on a 10 inch screen with a 46 inch in the room?
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I was reading in another thread about Google's movies policy and it should be able to go full screen. Somethings messed up in the way the rentals are being handled.
LC39B said:
I had the same question. I guess there will be no renting from Google, they really limited themselves, who wants to watch the movie on a 10 inch screen with a 46 inch in the room?
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I doubt it's Google policy but would lean toward drm laws and the mpaa.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/?hl=en#/answer/1268905
Watching on your HDTV
To watch movies rented on Google Play on your HDTV, you'll need:
an HDTV that supports High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP)—check your tv manufacturer's website to see if your HDTV is HDCP compliant
a Micro-HDMI to HDMI cable or an MHL adapter and HDMI cable, depending on your device
Once you connect your device to your HDTV, the screen of your device should be mirrored on your HDTV (both display the same content), with the audio playing on your HDTV. If the video plays without audio on your HDTV, you may need to change the input in your HDTV's audio settings.
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Google should never have agreed to MPAA terms for movie business segment. Root on android is really no different than administrator rights within windows.
Google gave up a lot to get rights for movie rights that few will use more than once. $5 to rent a movie to rent a movie that can only be viewed on a 10 inch (or smaller) screen without ability to output via HDMI? Can't imagine many, even the non tech savvy, to make the mistake of renting from Google Market more than once.
Someday the MPAA will realize that their attempts at preventing piracy only serve to promote it. Until they get a clue, Market will not be a viable source for movie rentals.
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https://support.google.com/googleplay/?hl=en#/answer/1268905
Watching on your HDTV
To watch movies rented on Google Play on your HDTV, you'll need:
an HDTV that supports High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP)—check your tv manufacturer's website to see if your HDTV is HDCP compliant
a Micro-HDMI to HDMI cable or an MHL adapter and HDMI cable, depending on your device
Once you connect your device to your HDTV, the screen of your device should be mirrored on your HDTV (both display the same content), with the audio playing on your HDTV. If the video plays without audio on your HDTV, you may need to change the input in your HDTV's audio settings.
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I meet those standards and I have the right cables and so forth. It looks pretty black and white to me that it should work.
I don't think root is causing the issue as people who haven't rooted can't get it to work, like someone else posted some flag is messed up somewhere.
EDIT: NM it seems rented videos are working fine on rooted Primes.
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I thought you could not rent movies from the market if your device is rooted?
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Mine is rooted and I've just rented and watched a movie directly on the Prime. However, I cannot see it on my TV.
I suppose it could be worse, they could just say F You, your rooted and no video at all. But this is the last time I rent anything from them until they get this straightened out. Has anyone tried playing it directly from the browser instead of through the play app?
Edit: Doesn't work, tried requesting desktop page, about:debug and setting browser to desktop, no dice.
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I suppose it could be worse, they could just say F You, your rooted and no video at all. But this is the last time I rent anything from them until they get this straightened out. Has anyone tried playing it directly from the browser instead of through the play app?
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I believe that it's working at all on rooted Primes is a bug in and of itself. Play movies will not play rental content on my rooted phone with a message saying as much.
Google movies do work on rooted devices, but they're not supposed to. If you look at the amazon/kindle system, they learned early on that root check is possible as a means of DRM control, but ultimately developed workarounds.
As far as the reason for the restrictions go, it's not a far cry to jump from hooking up HDMI to watch on your larger TV screen to hooking up to a projector and performing the movie in front of a crowded theater/auditorium.
Yes, it was possible to do the same thing with physical media in the past, but this is the direction digital DRM is going in. It's a very different story from the move of digital music to being DRM-free - there's no such thing as a standard mobile video player or file format to force publishers to release their grip the way there was for mp3.
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Google movies do work on rooted devices, but they're not supposed to. If you look at the amazon/kindle system, they learned early on that root check is possible as a means of DRM control, but ultimately developed workarounds.
As far as the reason for the restrictions go, it's not a far cry to jump from hooking up HDMI to watch on your larger TV screen to hooking up to a projector and performing the movie in front of a crowded theater/auditorium.
Yes, it was possible to do the same thing with physical media in the past, but this is the direction digital DRM is going in. It's a very different story from the move of digital music to being DRM-free - there's no such thing as a standard mobile video player or file format to force publishers to release their grip the way there was for mp3.
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Annnnnnnddddd this is the reason I will continue not to buy or rent movies.
When ps3 came out I bought about 10 blu-rays per month.
When Netflix came out I happily bought my subscription.
Well guess what.... haven't bought a blu-ray in probably about a year and a half and haven't had netflix for about 6 months.
Why? Because I feel like they treat us like criminals.
Even TV is ridiculous, few months ago I had thrown back a couple beers. I moved away from my hometown and was feeling football home sick. So I grab the remote and go to the NFL network so I could watch the packers. It says click here to order, so I click. Now it says call the 1800 number... so I sigh and call Verizon, thinking in 5 minutes ill be able to watch the game. After a long argument with the rep I hung up and illegally streamed it from an unnamed website.
Why? Well, to get the NFL network its $50 per year. No sweat I get to watch my team in high definition, good stuff.
Not really....
To get the NFL network I have to not only buy the NFL ticket, I also have to buy some premium package for another $10 per month. I told the rep that I didn't need other package and she said that was the only way to get the game.
So you know what? F?!# Verizon F?!# NFL and F?!# the movie and music industry.
I won't buy into this bulls?!# and I will continue to pirate away and only support my favorite artists.
If they spent half the money they spend on anti piracy on quality of product or ease of access then their profit margins would go way up.
Or.. lower prices and get higher volume, but I prefer higher quality.
Flame on.
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hahasports(dot).com
benefit14snake said:
Annnnnnnddddd this is the reason I will continue not to buy or rent movies.
When ps3 came out I bought about 10 blu-rays per month.
When Netflix came out I happily bought my subscription.
Well guess what.... haven't bought a blu-ray in probably about a year and a half and haven't had netflix for about 6 months.
Why? Because I feel like they treat us like criminals.
Even TV is ridiculous, few months ago I had thrown back a couple beers. I moved away from my hometown and was feeling football home sick. So I grab the remote and go to the NFL network so I could watch the packers. It says click here to order, so I click. Now it says call the 1800 number... so I sigh and call Verizon, thinking in 5 minutes ill be able to watch the game. After a long argument with the rep I hung up and illegally streamed it from an unnamed website.
Why? Well, to get the NFL network its $50 per year. No sweat I get to watch my team in high definition, good stuff.
Not really....
To get the NFL network I have to not only buy the NFL ticket, I also have to buy some premium package for another $10 per month. I told the rep that I didn't need other package and she said that was the only way to get the game.
So you know what? F?!# Verizon F?!# NFL and F?!# the movie and music industry.
I won't buy into this bulls?!# and I will continue to pirate away and only support my favorite artists.
If they spent half the money they spend on anti piracy on quality of product or ease of access then their profit margins would go way up.
Or.. lower prices and get higher volume, but I prefer higher quality.
Flame on.
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Dude, thats awesome and exactly how I feel. No flame coming from me.
benefit14snake said:
Annnnnnnddddd this is the reason I will continue not to buy or rent movies.
When ps3 came out I bought about 10 blu-rays per month.
When Netflix came out I happily bought my subscription.
Well guess what.... haven't bought a blu-ray in probably about a year and a half and haven't had netflix for about 6 months.
Why? Because I feel like they treat us like criminals.
Even TV is ridiculous, few months ago I had thrown back a couple beers. I moved away from my hometown and was feeling football home sick. So I grab the remote and go to the NFL network so I could watch the packers. It says click here to order, so I click. Now it says call the 1800 number... so I sigh and call Verizon, thinking in 5 minutes ill be able to watch the game. After a long argument with the rep I hung up and illegally streamed it from an unnamed website.
Why? Well, to get the NFL network its $50 per year. No sweat I get to watch my team in high definition, good stuff.
Not really....
To get the NFL network I have to not only buy the NFL ticket, I also have to buy some premium package for another $10 per month. I told the rep that I didn't need other package and she said that was the only way to get the game.
So you know what? F?!# Verizon F?!# NFL and F?!# the movie and music industry.
I won't buy into this bulls?!# and I will continue to pirate away and only support my favorite artists.
If they spent half the money they spend on anti piracy on quality of product or ease of access then their profit margins would go way up.
Or.. lower prices and get higher volume, but I prefer higher quality.
Flame on.
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Not saying it's right, wrong, or otherwise. I was just explaining the reasoning behind the unlikeliness of seeing this particular type of DRM disappear anytime soon. Video will (probably) always get ripped to a DRM-free version, but it won't usually start there as a native format.
Oh no worries. I'm nit arguing with anything anyone here said. I just read over it and instantly got frustrated. Between the experiences I've had and all this sopa crap its getting out of control. Everyone is so paranoid about piracy now a days no one remembers how to make content worth buying.
My wife and I loved the movie hangover, it was hilarious. We rented the hangover 2 the other day and watched about 25 minutes before turning it off. I mean I felt like we were watching the same movie.
Although I did find the new eminem and coldplay album to be pretty awesome. Bought both through google play.
Sorry didn't mean to derail this thread I just feel very strong about the lack of quality content compounded by the ever increasing security and stipulations.
Meanwhile steam is the only content provider that GETS IT.
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Is there anywhere to find rentals that will work on HDMI out?
We all know that HDMI works on our tablets but is there anywhere to find movie rentals that our Prime can stream out to an HDMI TV? The family is leaving on a vacation and it would be nice to watch some movies on the TV in the room.
I know you all are probably tired of seeing this but I didn't see this question in the first 3 pages of the prime so i decided to ask once more.
i'm really debating if i should get this one...the ipad2 the ipad3 or wait until the infinity comes out.
to me the price is the biggest concern. the ipad2 right now is selling for $360. But I believe the prime is definitely better than the ipad2 but it is $499. The new Ipad3 is also $499 for the 16gb model and has a better display. I realize that the display might not be such a big deal but it can play 1080p..can the Prime play 1080p? or just 720p? Also people are claiming that the Ipad3 gets better FPS in games due to quad core graphics. Also when the infinity comes out the price is rumored to be at $599 ..so $100 more than the current transformer. From most reviews it seems like it will be the same thing just better res so i don't know if that is worth $100 more. I will have to stay at $500 or less.
Also, people have been saying that the latest software update fixed the GPS and wifi. Can someone please confirm this? I thought this was a hardware issue with the back cover being aluminum so i'm not sure how a software update can fix this.
I've always been anti-apple so its hard for me to buy an apple product now but the price of the ipad 2 seems too good to pass up and then when i consider getting the prime i can use that $ to get the ipad3 with a better display. So i'm having a hard time talking myself out of not getting apple at the moment.
I will mostly be using the tablet to watch movies (netflix...and others so i do need codec compatibility (like .avi and such), also for work (taking notes), and for light gaming..to moderate gaming.
You can do a few things:
1) Pick up the current Prime and try it out and return it if you don't like it or experience too many issues with it
2) You can do the same thing with the new iPad and return it if you aren't satisfied.
3) Or you can wait for the Infinity and wait for reviews to trickle out and see if ASUS has addressed many of the issues that still plague some of the current Prime tablets.
From a former TFP owner, I would not suggest you to get the Prime at all. You are better of waiting for the 700 or getting the iPad. The gps and weak wifi will never be fixed. It is a design issue. Look all all the people "solving" the gps issue with aluminum foil, or beer cans, or what not.
-the Prime does not have a 1080 p display so it won't play anything back in 1080p
-the graphics are better on the iPad. The A5 already smoked the Tegra 3 in some areas and now the improved A5x is "4 times the power of Tegra 3" (maybe a stretch, you are up to verifying this yourself.) and you bet there will be more high quality games on the iPad.
-the 700 will have a higher res screen but the most important IMO is the new plastic strip on the back for wifi and gps. (which is also a proof that that messed up the TFP)
-video codec handling will be different between iOS and android (superior on android) on Android you just transfer the video to your Prime and open it with a file manager then choose the app you want to play the video with, on iOS, you have to transfer the videos to the memory of a certain app and you will be able to play the videos with that certain app.
What sort of anti Apple are you. The "I hate Apple as a company and won't buy anything from them even if it is good" or the "I hate how Apple handles their OS", etc
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From a former TFP owner, I would not suggest you to get the Prime at all. You are better of waiting for the 700 or getting the iPad. The gps and weak wifi will never be fixed. It is a design issue. Look all all the people "solving" the gps issue with aluminum foil, or beer cans, or what not.
-the Prime does not have a 1080 p display so it won't play anything back in 1080p
-the graphics are better on the iPad. The A5 already smoked the Tegra 3 in some areas and now the improved A5x is "4 times the power of Tegra 3" (maybe a stretch, you are up to verifying this yourself.) and you bet there will be more high quality games on the iPad.
-the 700 will have a higher res screen but the most important IMO is the new plastic strip on the back for wifi and gps. (which is also a proof that that messed up the TFP)
-video codec handling will be different between iOS and android (superior on android) on Android you just transfer the video to your Prime and open it with a file manager then choose the app you want to play the video with, on iOS, you have to transfer the videos to the memory of a certain app and you will be able to play the videos with that certain app.
What sort of anti Apple are you. The "I hate Apple as a company and won't buy anything from them even if it is good" or the "I hate how Apple handles their OS", etc
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i'm more of a "i don't like apple because you don't get enough for the price" but that argument doesn't seem to apply at the moment. i did see the new acer iconia is coming out in april with the tegra 3. So i can wait another month and see if the transformer price goes down.
i don't know how you can say that tegra 3 is not better than the processor for ipad2 and not equivalent to the processor for ipad3. Where are you getting your comparisons?
i saw the following on zdnet. but note you get more texture and details with the tegra 3 in shadowgun..so the fps is lower..which makes sense. to compare as equals you would have to disable the textures and see what fps you get then.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/a5x-vs-tegra-3-benchmarked/19138
I bought my prime about 2 weeks ago brand new, was hoping for the latest serial but ended with a C10. So far NO issues at all, I don't use GPS on my tablet (never even tried it), I have a phone for that.
But wifi has been fine so far, weaker than my galaxy s2, but still useable at home and at school for me.
I use mines for eBooks, comics, movies, notetaking, and some small games. Haven't had any issues, positive experience so far
Look man. Iproducts are basically for kids and people who have no idea what theese things are supposed to be capable of in my opinion. Crippled machines. They couls be great but apple wants to squeeze every cent outa your wallet. Id rather have a pandigital novel.
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i'm more of a "i don't like apple because you don't get enough for the price" but that argument doesn't seem to apply at the moment. i did see the new acer iconia is coming out in april with the tegra 3. So i can wait another month and see if the transformer price goes down.
i don't know how you can say that tegra 3 is not better than the processor for ipad2 and not equivalent to the processor for ipad3. Where are you getting your comparisons?
i saw the following on zdnet. but note you get more texture and details with the tegra 3 in shadowgun..so the fps is lower..which makes sense. to compare as equals you would have to disable the textures and see what fps you get then.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/a5x-vs-tegra-3-benchmarked/19138
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ShadowGun is a different story. ShadowGun is optimized for Tegra 3 and was one of their "show off" games for Tegra. That doesn't mean that they can't replicate the same details on the A5X. But benchmarks don't matter. Im sure both processors are capable of pushing out great graphics. But the problem is which OS will push out more games that use such processing power. And you bet it is going to be on iOS.
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Look man. Iproducts are basically for kids and people who have no idea what theese things are supposed to be capable of in my opinion. Crippled machines. They couls be great but apple wants to squeeze every cent outa your wallet. Id rather have a pandigital novel.
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Woah. Calm down there. I use a Android phone and an iPad. Android phones are very capable but Android tabs are a different story. I think YOU don't know what your device is capable of. Im not the one running blown up SMARTPHONE apps on my TABLET. And before you tell me that apps on Android are designed to work with higher resolutions, there is a difference between blown up smart phone apps with great resolution versus tablet apps that actually take advantage of the screen estate.
Perhaps you could educate me on what you are capable of that general consumers care about but cant do on iOS.
For watching movie, I would say a Android Tablet, the Prime or other equivalant coming out, there are various topic on the general section, you can read about the tablet coming out then.
Here is the Tegra3 tablet coming out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522707
1. Extra storage through Micro-SD, SD card (Drag and drop)
2. Multiple media player choice each with their own codec(Dice player, MX player, Mobo Player, etc)
xGary said:
From a former TFP owner, I would not suggest you to get the Prime at all. You are better of waiting for the 700 or getting the iPad. The gps and weak wifi will never be fixed. It is a design issue. Look all all the people "solving" the gps issue with aluminum foil, or beer cans, or what not.
-the Prime does not have a 1080 p display so it won't play anything back in 1080p
-the graphics are better on the iPad. The A5 already smoked the Tegra 3 in some areas and now the improved A5x is "4 times the power of Tegra 3" (maybe a stretch, you are up to verifying this yourself.) and you bet there will be more high quality games on the iPad.
-the 700 will have a higher res screen but the most important IMO is the new plastic strip on the back for wifi and gps. (which is also a proof that that messed up the TFP)
-video codec handling will be different between iOS and android (superior on android) on Android you just transfer the video to your Prime and open it with a file manager then choose the app you want to play the video with, on iOS, you have to transfer the videos to the memory of a certain app and you will be able to play the videos with that certain app.
What sort of anti Apple are you. The "I hate Apple as a company and won't buy anything from them even if it is good" or the "I hate how Apple handles their OS", etc
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-- I'm not sure what people really plan on using GPS for? I understand it's suppose to come w/ it... but it's not like these tablets are 3g/4g data ready. So what are they planning on doing w/ GPS?
-- I think 1080p is overrated for movies. For one, when you're DL/streaming movies, it's NEVER in 1080p. If you're some how ripping off Bluerays, than yes, it may matter. But most DL movies aren't in even 1080p.
And TBH, put a 1080p and 720p TV side by side..... you will not tell the difference. I use to be an installer for Magnolia HT. And we sat there comparing the pictures with REGULAR content -- meaning video games, normal HD content from Dish/Cable -- it will not make a difference. Again 1080p only starts to make a difference if you're playing 1080p content, which in reality isn't a lot.
ratchoke99 said:
-- I'm not sure what people really plan on using GPS for? I understand it's suppose to come w/ it... but it's not like these tablets are 3g/4g data ready. So what are they planning on doing w/ GPS?
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Not sure what you mean. GPS is supposed to work with or without 3g/4g. I don't drive so sometimes when I bus/walk to places im not sure how to get there and GPS would come in handy. Heck, my campus is so big, I need gps to go to that one building in that one corner where I have to do that one exam. GPS is handy for me in many situations but the GPS on my 3 year old phone stopped working.
bluewr said:
For watching movie, I would say a Android Tablet, the Prime or other equivalant coming out, there are various topic on the general section, you can read about the tablet coming out then.
Here is the Tegra3 tablet coming out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522707
1. Extra storage through Micro-SD, SD card (Drag and drop)
2. Multiple media player choice each with their own codec(Dice player, MX player, Mobo Player, etc)
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i think you are right. for me i need to get an android tablet. i like having the micro sd card slot for movies and play multiple codecs. Also, I would prefer to be able to connect the tablet to a TV via a hdmi and watch it. I don't think Apple allows you to do this unless you buy apple tv which cost more $. i'll wait until a few more tegra 3 tablets come out and force the transformer price to drop. i think if the transformer prime was at $450 right now i would probably get it.
If you want a boring ass tablet, definitely get the iPad 3. If not, you might as well wait for the Infinity. Or if you can't wait, if you find a TFP from your local Bestbuy...get it and buy the "buy back guarantee" that way you can retain most of the tablet's value and trade it in once the Infinity is out.
xGary said:
Not sure what you mean. GPS is supposed to work with or without 3g/4g. I don't drive so sometimes when I bus/walk to places im not sure how to get there and GPS would come in handy. Heck, my campus is so big, I need gps to go to that one building in that one corner where I have to do that one exam. GPS is handy for me in many situations but the GPS on my 3 year old phone stopped working.
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Wouldn't that require you knew where you were going? To insure you ALREADY have the latest information w/ that city? Meaning you're going to have to DL all maps for said city that you're even trying to navigate to right?
In which case your GPS would just be supplemental considering you'd have an idea and already have a map?
If you wanted to use GPS in an unknown area, I don't believe GPS will be able to just randomly DL the area information and give you an idea where you're at, other than Lon/Lat?|
Maybe I'm not understanding how GPS works that well lol. I know it can tell you where you ARE, but you still need some type of data to give you an idea of where you want to go.
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Wouldn't that require you knew where you were going? To insure you ALREADY have the latest information w/ that city? Meaning you're going to have to DL all maps for said city that you're even trying to navigate to right?
In which case your GPS would just be supplemental considering you'd have an idea and already have a map?
If you wanted to use GPS in an unknown area, I don't believe GPS will be able to just randomly DL the area information and give you an idea where you're at, other than Lon/Lat?|
Maybe I'm not understanding how GPS works that well lol. I know it can tell you where you ARE, but you still need some type of data to give you an idea of where you want to go.
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It actually depends on which Navigation app you use...there are some that don't require data usage, therefor all the maps are saved into an sd card. For example, NAVIGON doesn't require data usage.
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Wouldn't that require you knew where you were going? To insure you ALREADY have the latest information w/ that city? Meaning you're going to have to DL all maps for said city that you're even trying to navigate to right?
In which case your GPS would just be supplemental considering you'd have an idea and already have a map?
If you wanted to use GPS in an unknown area, I don't believe GPS will be able to just randomly DL the area information and give you an idea where you're at, other than Lon/Lat?|
Maybe I'm not understanding how GPS works that well lol. I know it can tell you where you ARE, but you still need some type of data to give you an idea of where you want to go.
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There are many GPS applications that can preload maps of entire countries (IE CoPilot). You can then enter any address like 1234 Fake Street and it can give you turn by turn navigation there. So say I want to get to 1234 Fake street but the bus only takes me to 9513 Real Street, then I can use the GPS to help me get to my destination.
I loved how, when they presented it, they said
And a micro-usb port, just for hackability purposes
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What do you guys think we can get out of this device, other than default features?
Maybe tablet interface. Now it looks like a big phone. It's still nice, but reminds me of the first Galaxy Tab with 2.3, which was, IMHO, a mistake. I hope that Google didn't remove tablet interface in Jelly Bean.
Needs XBMC.
Good damn it guys, this is not the Nexus 7 forum, no tablet interface on the Q...
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Full screen apps!!!
As sexy as it looks I won't get it until I can play netflix, hulu plus and stream mkv from my computers
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Good damn it guys, this is not the Nexus 7 forum, no tablet interface on the Q...
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I read...or heard (I cant remember) that it has a internal hard drive so couldnt it then support Android on it to make it a working proper android device?
TheDeadCPU said:
Needs XBMC.
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:good:
PLEX/XBMC
PLEX Media Server or, even better, a Media Server for XBMC!
Netflix compatible? :good:
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I think with a standard Android Player like Dice Player or MX player it would be great considering they have built in file/network explorers.
I do run XBMC boxes at home currently. I think an XBMC port would be awesome if it can perform well. I'm about to move my server over to Plex so that would be nice also.
If I could sync multiple devices to play the same movie or tv show at once all around the house. I'd feel like I was in a Sci-Fi movie.
I think it would be cool if the Google TV OS was ported over to the Q.
Live and Die on this day....
When there is a ROM that can play MKV/X624 (even 720p would be fine) from some sort of share (SMB, NFS, HTTP?) is the day I will purchase one of these.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28074950#post28074950
Enjoy
Hopefully XBMC will be on android. My ONLY apple device is the apple TV just to watch video's from my PCs. So hopefully soon then I can either sell my apple TV or take a baseball bat to my last remaining piece of apple junk I have.
I'm hoping to be able to use it as a mirrored screen for my tablet for use in teaching/presenting since I don't know any way of doing that.
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I just want to be able to use it with any music player, like it's working now but without the limits of google music and youtube. And any movies too since I don't have Google play movies or whatever the name of that service is.
If the Apple TV Gen3 had been jailbreak'ed, I would think there is no use for the Nexus Q... but with the ongoing inability to break ATV3, XBMC on a Nexus Q would be great.
The 299.00 price tag makes me wonder if it would just be better to buy a HTPC.
For those of us who regularly set up $500 Sonos amps at our clients houses and businesses, this 300 price tag ROCKS!
It's still hooked up to my TV but I forgot it's there.
No, I use mine daily. Its one of my favorite devices in my house.
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I also use it daily.
With :
MyDac Micromega
Cambridge Audio 651
B&W 686
El Daddy said:
No, I use mine daily. Its one of my favorite devices in my house.
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what do you do with it?
illyfilly said:
what do you do with it?
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Watch video podcasts on YouTube and listen to music. The two things it was designed for
I did try cm10.1 for a bit but it was too clunky so I went back to stock.
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I use mine daily also. We watched The Hobbit on Saturday and I listen to music. I have three.
I use my everyday for Netflix, youtube, streaming radio, stored music, Google Music, web browsing on my TV.
If only Cm10.1 didn't break the amp so I could still power my sub
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I use my everyday for Netflix, youtube, streaming radio, stored music, Google Music, web browsing on my TV.
If only Cm10.1 didn't break the amp so I could still power my sub
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Not great on quality, but you can certainly stream from the Nexus Q to a bluetooth receiver and into an AUX port on your stereo system. Otherwise going via HDMI into a receiver allows you to get the full surround effect.
I've collected a few Q's and I'm trying to find ways to still use the stock amp via a bluetooth stream TO the Nexus Q (CM9 Nexus Quantum Singularity?) or disabling the Nexus Q app forced NFC push and enabling stock Android Beam to push songs to the Q. This works great on CM10.1 RC5 for Youtube.
Spare Nexus Q?
If anyone has forgotten about their Q and wants to forget about it on a more permanent basis, let me know as I may just be interested in helping you out with that one
They were never on sale here in the UK and I really want one for a project and for generally geeking around but have yet to be able to get hold of one for a half reasonable price.
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If anyone has forgotten about their Q and wants to forget about it on a more permanent basis, let me know as I may just be interested in helping you out with that one
They were never on sale here in the UK and I really want one for a project and for generally geeking around but have yet to be able to get hold of one for a half reasonable price.
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I really love my Q Ball and have only took it out the box once or twice never seen a single movie on it yet the light show it produces really looks awesome. I would be willing to let it go for a good trade. Pm me if you ever read this and still are looking for one.
I bet that could happen to me aswell, but prolly not if i had a nexusQ.
Running raspbmc on a raspberry, witch is frequently used, as my media hub..
Would like to see more integration to android devices though.