Hello everyone. First off, I'd like to say I've been reading/lurking here for quite sometime and have found it EXTREMELY helpful, and would like to thank the XDA community for all of the resources and help.
I found out today that Squaretrade actually covers rooted/jailbroken devices, and I have a ST warranty on my Prime.
I have not had quite as much trouble with my Prime as others, but still struggle with reboots and the ever-present 'not responding' alerts.
I was wondering what the advantages are to rooting my Prime. I am not extremely tech savvy, and am not a programmer/developer, so I would like to know what benefits an average user would see/get out of rooting.
Thanks for all of your help. Look forward to your responses as well as potentially rooting my Prime! :good:
If you want your Prime to run as it should then root and apply a couple of quick mods. It makes a huge difference and really does take just a few minutes to get it truly flying.
1. Very simple one stop root tool: HERE.
2. Then get stock browser running fast and smooth: HERE.
3. Finally eliminate any remaining lags by tweaking your system to load SIO scheduler and clock to 1600MHz using another great one-stop tool HERE.
Job done.
In similar position as OP - am very tempted by root thanks to the potential of Browser2RAM and Androwook. The only two issues/questions I have:
What is the risk of bricking my tablet during the rooting process?
Is it worth waiting for the next update/ community support for JB before installing something like Androwook?
Thanks guys, I know this is probably very pedantic but I've only been lurking here for the past month or so.
GS_Dan said:
In similar position as OP - am very tempted by root thanks to the potential of Browser2RAM and Androwook. The only two issues/questions I have:
What is the risk of bricking my tablet during the rooting process?
Is it worth waiting for the next update/ community support for JB before installing something like Androwook?
Thanks guys, I know this is probably very pedantic but I've only been lurking here for the past month or so.
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You also need to unlock your bootloader to install androwook or another custom rom. Unlocking your bootloader will definitely void your warranty and will stop original asus updates on your device.
So let's talk about root: the risks in rooting process are virtually zero, i never heard of such a problem on every single device. I rooted my LG optimus 2X and my prime (two times) very easily and without problems.
I don't use browser2ram but i use the ATP tweak app and ezoverclock app (search for them in the development section) and they make my prime fly without problems.
If you only root your device you won't lose asus updates.
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jason1993 said:
You also need to unlock your bootloader to install androwook or another custom rom. Unlocking your bootloader will definitely void your warranty and will stop original asus updates on your device.
So let's talk about root: the risks in rooting process are virtually zero, i never heard of such a problem on every single device. I rooted my LG optimus 2X and my prime (two times) very easily and without problems.
I don't use browser2ram but i use the ATP tweak app and ezoverclock app (search for them in the development section) and they make my prime fly without problems.
If you only root your device you won't lose asus updates.
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Thanks duder, I'll try rooting and stick with that unless Asus mess things up badly.
benefits of rooting faster system, more stable then stock, longer battery life, more tools to optimize with and block ads within apps and thats just a few benefits
I have rooted every android device I have owned, (quite a few) but the Transformer is the first one I have just not found a really good reason to root. There just aren't and major upgraded kernal/Rom changes I have seen that retain full dock functionality so mine stays unrooted for the time being.
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Have rooted, was as easy as you guys said
Immediately put on those performance improvement apps and changed the default physical keyboard language so I don't have to switch to thumb keyboard manually when I undock -already worth rooting!
hi guys. tomorrow my new prime (tired of infinity wait) will arrive. so i just follow all the steps to root? im used to root original droid.. incredible.. lol tomorrow questions
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GS_Dan said:
Have rooted, was as easy as you guys said
Immediately put on those performance improvement apps and changed the default physical keyboard language so I don't have to switch to thumb keyboard manually when I undock -already worth unlocking!
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Hope you meant "worth rooting"!!
I can't recommend "unlocking" the bootloader to those who aren't tech savvy =)
Btw, do be careful with any file management app & etc...
Do not delete or move files that you simply have no knowledge of =)
shinzz said:
Hope you meant "worth rooting"!!
I can't recommend "unlocking" the bootloader to those who aren't tech savvy =)
Btw, do be careful with any file management app & etc...
Do not delete or move files that you simply have no knowledge of =)
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Haha yes, I meant rooting
shinzz said:
Hope you meant "worth rooting"!!
I can't recommend "unlocking" the bootloader to those who aren't tech savvy =)
Btw, do be careful with any file management app & etc...
Do not delete or move files that you simply have no knowledge of =)
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GS_Dan said:
In similar position as OP - am very tempted by root thanks to the potential of Browser2RAM and Androwook. The only two issues/questions I have:
What is the risk of bricking my tablet during the rooting process?
Is it worth waiting for the next update/ community support for JB before installing something like Androwook?
Thanks guys, I know this is probably very pedantic but I've only been lurking here for the past month or so.
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Hi,
the chance to brick your device is relatively low (if you use the proposed "one click root tool" mentioned in this thread.
If you unlock the bootloader (with the ASUS APK) the chance is higher.
But I don't see an advantage to do that since the unroot tool also can handle the version 9.4.2.21 now!
AND: you can update via Asus update (system settings) which is impossible if you install another ROM!
Before you do that pls install the VOODOO ROOTKEEPER (which saves your root)
Once I get my tablet back from ASUS I am probably going to give rooting a shot for the first time. I do a lot of overclocking and stuff within windows but still pretty new to Android. I am just wondering which of these rooty things will be best, I am looking at Androwook which appears to offer better battery life and things, but how much faster, or better is the battery life. Will I be able to beat my 8-9 hours with wi-di and browsing?
no ads.
That makes it worth rooting
just got my prime... update 2 times... its runs amazing guys ! stock
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace, and am seriously considering rooting it.
I've done a fair bit of research on it, and have found a few very detailed tutorials on going through the process.
I'm just wondering how common it is, it seems most people on Android forums have rooted their devices, and I haven't really come across anyone who has managed to stuff it up.
So, pros and cons?
why you should root it:
1. you can pretty much customize every part of your phone (software-wise obviously). while rooting does not do the actual customization, it opens you up to a variety of options (when rooted, you can flash roms and kernels that can significantly increase performance and/or battery life; not to mention all of the themes that you can apply, a good place to start would be here)
2. because you can (this may sound stupid but i believe this is true; i think android phones are meant to be rooted )
why you shouldn't root it:
1. you will lose the warranty that came with your phone
2. you can mess up your phone if you do not know what you are doing (when i say this, i am talking about messing with system files, not following the directions when you apply a modification; of course, this would not be a problem as long as you pay close attention to what you are doing)
in my opinion, i think you should
sweetnsour said:
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because you can (this may sound stupid but i believe this is true; i think android phones are meant to be rooted )
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I agree, that's why I'm looking at doing it, I guess I just want to here from a few users first hand on their experiences with it before I go through with it...
root, root
I would recomend that you root your device. I did my first root to the phone I am using now and I am glad I did, I am able to remove a lot of the carrier bloatware that slows the phone down. Now it runs faster. As the other post said you void your warrenty when you root and if you do not follow instructions you can brick your phone. Anyhow take the plunge and root it you will be glad you did.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace, and am seriously considering rooting it.
I've done a fair bit of research on it, and have found a few very detailed tutorials on going through the process.
I'm just wondering how common it is, it seems most people on Android forums have rooted their devices, and I haven't really come across anyone who has managed to stuff it up.
So, pros and cons?
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Without root is boring
With root is always somekind action
But of course is last desicion yours!!!
Regards!
Taavi
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todd_10 said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace, and am seriously considering rooting it.
I've done a fair bit of research on it, and have found a few very detailed tutorials on going through the process.
I'm just wondering how common it is, it seems most people on Android forums have rooted their devices, and I haven't really come across anyone who has managed to stuff it up.
So, pros and cons?
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I know the feeling man, just upgraded to an android galaxy mini from my htc gene, that tough little bastard served me well for two years before it succumbed. Was thinking of rooting but you know how it is with new phone jitters, am not ready to start cutting into its software setup just yet. I'll take my time getting used to this platform before rooting. My reasons for rooting would mainly be to upgrade to gingerbread and delete the stock apps that came with the phone that I barely use like opera 5 -since I use opera 6- and also to be able to overclock the cpu to around 800mhz. Does anyone here think this could improve mkv playback for 480p videos? I can't figure out why mkv videos are such a pain to deal with. What is it about the container that makes it quite a challenge to android
any way to delete stock apps i don't use at all without the root? i own an xperia ray but there is nothing happening for this phone considering rooting.
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any way to delete stock apps i don't use at all without the root? i own an xperia ray but there is nothing happening for this phone considering rooting.
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Problably NO!
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Should I root Nexus S?
porcupineli said:
Should I root Nexus S?
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Its your free opinion
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Taavi
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its up to you
porcupineli said:
Should I root Nexus S?
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1 UNLOCK many features of the phone - root
2 is the warranity over ? - root
3 want a new rom? - root
4 want to feel like having a new phone ? - root
5 nothing from the above ? - no root
vinylakos said:
1 UNLOCK many features of the phone - root
2 is the warranity over ? - root
3 want a new rom? - root
4 want to feel like having a new phone ? - root
5 nothing from the above ? - no root
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Hehe. Love this. It's like taking a symptom survey provided by some pharmaceutical company. Pretty comprehensive and straightforward checklist, I'd say.
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I was in your place but after rooting my htc desire i just cant stop having fun with it
Seems everyone tends to lean towards rooting, I think I might spend a couple more weeks getting familiar with my phone, then go through with it
I have just bought my first android phone a week ago and I'm wondering if I should root or not. Based on everyone's thoughts I really think rooting is the best option specialy because my courrier modded the phones rom with a lot of bulls**t that I can't delete
But first I got some questions to ask:
1. If I install another rom on my phone will it remain rooted? Ex. After installing CM7 the phone will remain rooted? Also if I decide to go back to factory rom will it still remain rooted?
2. Is there any way to "unroot" it? In case I need to contact the warranty I could "unroot" and send it back?
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I have just bought my first android phone a week ago and I'm wondering if I should root or not. Based on everyone's thoughts I really think rooting is the best option specialy because my courrier modded the phones rom with a lot of bulls**t that I can't delete
But first I got some questions to ask:
1. If I install another rom on my phone will it remain rooted? Ex. After installing CM7 the phone will remain rooted? Also if I decide to go back to factory rom will it still remain rooted?
2. Is there any way to "unroot" it? In case I need to contact the warranty I could "unroot" and send it back?
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1. Yes, yes, and yes.
2. Yes, but that procedure is more complicated. I'll defer the technical explanation to someone less noobish than I am.
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So, does anyone here know a good place to have a look at some of the better roms available?
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So, does anyone here know a good place to have a look at some of the better roms available?
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You kinda just have to look around, because everyone likes something different...plus you have to keep in mind that ROMs are specific to the phone. If you like a plain vanilla Android experience, Cyanogenmod (currently #7) is extremely popular. It's a little too bare-bones for my taste, but many people love it. If you have an HTC phone, like I do, and you like HTC Sense but hate how bloated it is, there are tons of custom roms out there based on Sense. Just be careful, again, that you download a ROM for your phone model. I have an HTC Sensation, and I use LeeDroid's Sensational ROM. Some others to check out might be InsertCoin and Revolution HD, but there are tons out there.
Happy flashing! Let us know what you end up trying and how you like it.
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ROOT. You will go through the process and if you read and follow every step correctly, you will ask yourself "thats it?" it really is the best thing you can do for your phone. If you want more battery life-- root. If you want simplicity-- root. If you want the latest version of Android (which really makes a difference in overall user experience)--root. Hell, if you want to have something that looks like an iPhone--root.
Go for it. Make sure to read and if you are comfortable with it do it and you will be glad you did.
Just received my TF201 Asus Transformer Prime today.
http://i40.tinypic.com/21dlpc9.jpg
I'm looking for a method in rooting the device.
I'm aware that RazorClaw is suppose to work on the device but could anyone confirm that it there are no bugs which would possibly brick the device etc?
PS. This is my first tablet / android device so please bare with me.
Thanks In Advance!
Where'd you order from?
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Where'd you order from?
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Supercom, in Canada
I'm not rooting till ics comes ota
I think you will be fine rooting that way. There is a site that reviewed th tfp and they used that root method and they said it went well with no issues.
What the hurry ?
It might not be a bad idea to wait until the unit is burned in, and you are satisfied that everything is working perfectly before mucking around (i.e. rooting). Then, if you have problems, you can more certain that the problems are attributable to the rooting.
Enjoy your Prime
Could anyone brief me with the cons of rooting the device? :|
Research first, especially with this being your first android tab. Don't be over anxious n go bricking your device..lol.
Was there an immediate notification for an update after you opened it? Razor claw supposedly doesn't work after Asus pushed a system update. It was rooted prior to update on in-store demo model.
What's reason for eagerness to root so quickly? There are no custom roms or anything out yet. It's not 3G so no tethering. If you root and uninstall system files/bloatware you won't be able to do OTA update to Icer Cream Sandwich. Which means you will have to wait till someone here makes a version, which might not for a while.
Sorry that this is off topic, but does the color you ordered seem true to the advertised pics?
Expliciate said:
Could anyone brief me with the cons of rooting the device? :|
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Good thing we have search engines....
1. Technically voids warranty and may not allow OTA updates.
2. Possibility of a brick if you don't know WTF you're doing.
Huummmm... cons of rooting..... hummm... don't rush, still thinking.... possible OTA update issue, very unlikely, but still possible I guess; most of the time the OTA will just erase the root.... uummmm yeah, that's about all I can think of.
Also, guess there's a very small chance of a soft brick... but I would tend to think that the root will either take, or it wont... but there's still a chance I guess.
IMO, the benefits far outweigh the "possible" consequences.
Wish I had mine, I do it in a heart beat.
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Riiiiight. Thanks
These days when there's a one-click for everything...it's very hard to jack anything up. Now, going in manually...there's always risk of operator error.
Swiftks said:
Huummmm... cons of rooting..... hummm... don't rush, still thinking.... possible OTA update issue, very unlikely, but still possible I guess; most of the time the OTA will just erase the root.... uummmm yeah, that's about all I can think of.
Also, guess there's a very small chance of a soft brick... but I would tend to think that the root will either take, or it wont... but there's still a chance I guess.
IMO, the benefits far outweigh the "possible" consequences.
Wish I had mine, I do it in a heart beat.
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With this being his first tablet and Android device period, seems like he wants to root just for the sake of saying he's rooted. You know very well what happens to a lot of new people to Android that just jump in and want to root w/o thoroughly doing the homework first. Lmao
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With this being his first tablet and Android device period, seems like he wants to root just for the sake of saying he's rooted. You know very well what happens to a lot of new people to Android that just jump in and want to root w/o thoroughly doing the homework first. Lmao
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That's true... since it is his first Android device, he might want to let someone a little more experience take the lead, just in case...
ATM, other than de-bloating there is very little reason for root.
Does anyone know by any chance the official release date of ICS?
I'm aware that it has been "released" to certain phones like the Samsung Galaxy, but when would it be made available to the Asus Transformer Prime? o_o
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ATM, other than de-bloating there is very little reason for root.
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Yeah, no other reason... except de-odexing, themeing, TI Backup, freezing, editing database files, changing VM Heap size, installing custom scripts, overclocking/undervolting custom kernels, disabling startup processes.... that's just off the top of my head.
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Does anyone know by any chance the official release date of ICS?
I'm aware that it has been "released" to certain phones like the Samsung Galaxy, but when would it be made available to the Asus Transformer Prime? o_o
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No Official date yet but could be by end of this month or mid Jan. It literally could be anyday. Just keep a lookout on an update notification popping up. Or even go to settings and about. Then click on system or whatever to see of it searches and finds an update for your device.
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Could anyone brief me with the cons of rooting the device? :|
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Everybody says root root. The new roms come out fast... I did it with my original tf and roms don't come out that fast especially if Asus is going to push ICS soon. I'd wait a while especially since a lot of potential devs won't get their unit for several weeks or months!
Hi all - just signed up. I'm receiving my 10 Monday. I have an Infinity and wanted to give the Nexus 10 shot as it seems like a great tablet. I'm not likely to root either one. Is there anything you all suggest to get the most out of the Nexus 10? I'm fairly new to the tablet world although have owned an android phone for several years.
Thanks!
Welcome and congrats! Here is a link someone started that shares your question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023608
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^ Great thread for starters but make sure and DO YOUR READING before you unlock and root your device -- or you will end up with a $400 makeshift frisbee disk. Unlocking your boot-loader/rooting is what makes android so much fun, I would recommend it
Derp: sounds you've rooted before, but I suppose the above statement still stands lol
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^ Great thread for starters but make sure and DO YOUR READING before you unlock and root your device -- or you will end up with a $400 makeshift frisbee disk. Unlocking your boot-loader/rooting is what makes android so much fun, I would recommend it
Derp: sounds you've rooted before, but I suppose the above statement still stands lol
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I did read that thread but as I said - I'm not likely to root...at least not right away.
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I did read that thread but as I said - I'm not likely to root...at least not right away.
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Sounds like quite a few people are unlocking / rooting and leaving the stock ROM which is likely what I will do. I like having the freedom that Root provides to install some apps etc.
Nexus 10 will be my first tablet also, so I'll be having quite a bit of fun for the first few weeks figuring out how exactly I will be using it
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Sounds like quite a few people are unlocking / rooting and leaving the stock ROM which is likely what I will do. I like having the freedom that Root provides to install some apps etc.
Nexus 10 will be my first tablet also, so I'll be having quite a bit of fun for the first few weeks figuring out how exactly I will be using it
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Still a little nervous about the rooting process....and its risks. What exactly are the benefits?
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Still a little nervous about the rooting process....and its risks. What exactly are the benefits?
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From what I've gathered, and from experience, I think the benefits of Root give the user a great deal more control of what goes on with his/her device -- that is, in part, what apps are accessing resources. For example, with my HTC One XL, I was able to install an app (which requires root access) that allows me to freeze apps while they are not in use -- launch them to unfreeze and use them when I need but when I'm not using, they aren't going to automatically run processes that drain my battery. I also installed a custom Kernel, and there is a root-required app that allows me to adjust my CPU frequencies and voltages to maximize battery life and performance.
I am relatively new to rooting devices, as I started in late October, but I can tell you that I have had a ton of fun doing it.
In any event, I really dont think rooting is that valuable to mainstream users if you ask me -- If you aren't looking into flashing custom ROMs or using special utilities/apps on your device then I wouldn't bother rooting/unlocking bootloader.
Since you asked risks I'll address that too: The risks are bricking (completely unusable) your device if you flash an incompatible ROM, but this is easily avoided by sticking only to flashing ROMs for the Nexus 10. You can also damage the components of your device if you overclock too much etc....Other risks are that ROMs are buggy sometimes despite the very hard work of the devs here (They are truly amazing here) but the bugs may take away from your experience potentially. There may be plenty of other risks but these are the ones I can think of so far.
I was completely unaware of root/unlock up until about 2 months ago and was completely new to the process. I was able to read great guides put together by the XDA community here that walked me through the process and I was successful in unlocking my One X and I now finally feel like I am getting the moneys worth out of my device that I payed good $$$ for.
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Rooting is quick and painless if you use the Nexus 10 Toolkit available in the development section! My Galaxy Nexus also has a toolkit from the same dev, makes things SO much easier/quicker.
The risks of rooting are almost non-existent. Really, if the procedure doesn't work for you, nothing changes & you just won't have root permissions. I've personally never had anything bad happen, but I'm sure there is someone out there who has tried some sketchy method to root...the methods here are far from that, just read up and follow the instructions.
Benefits are basically the freedom to remove system apps and make backups of any of your apps. There are also a ton of root apps that allow you to customize your device the way you like it. With root, you get full control and the freedom to tinker.
Nexus devices are absolutley meant for consumers who don't root or unlock, but what is great about them is if you want to do either of the latter..it is much easier to do.
Also, I suggest you try and personally compare your N10 and Infinity before you read any of the general comparison threads. lol
Oh and welcome to the vanilla side of Android! :good:
- Mac
xIC-MACIx said:
Rooting is quick and painless if you use the Nexus 10 Toolkit available in the development section! My Galaxy Nexus also has a toolkit from the same dev, makes things SO much easier/quicker.
The risks of rooting are almost non-existent. Really, if the procedure doesn't work for you, nothing changes & you just won't have root permissions. I've personally never had anything bad happen, but I'm sure there is someone out there who has tried some sketchy method to root...the methods here are far from that, just read up and follow the instructions.
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Toolkits are a nice method for rooting for beginners, but (imo) it's better to learn how to flash (and do generally other stuff) without the need of a toolkit.
When I rooted my Nexus 10, I just unlocked the bootloader (manually with fastboot), restocked, installed custom recovery (TWRP; fastboot) and then flashed a SuperSU CWM-flashable package from recovery. I did a lot of messing around with flashing and stuff on my SGT7 and Nexus 7, so this wasn't really anything new or difficult at all. I started out with a toolkit on my Nexus 7, and found it very annoying after a while when trying to flash a custom recovery (generally took a while for the device to end up having to reboot and unlock, and if I already did unlock then I think the toolkit wouldn't continue on unless I selected another option, and then if drivers aren't installed properly (I switched between a few devices) then that can also cause the toolkit to mess up, drivers and adb would be outdated from the toolkit in-comparison to what Google offered, etc.).
Simply put, Toolkits might be nice in the beginning, but I wouldn't recommend relying on them forever If your only mission is to just root the device though, a toolkit can do that pretty painlessly.
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Toolkits are a nice method for rooting for beginners, but (imo) it's better to learn how to flash (and do generally other stuff) without the need of a toolkit.
When I rooted my Nexus 10, I just unlocked the bootloader (manually with fastboot), restocked, installed custom recovery (TWRP; fastboot) and then flashed a SuperSU CWM-flashable package from recovery. I did a lot of messing around with flashing and stuff on my SGT7 and Nexus 7, so this wasn't really anything new or difficult at all. I started out with a toolkit on my Nexus 7, and found it very annoying after a while when trying to flash a custom recovery (generally took a while for the device to end up having to reboot and unlock, and if I already did unlock then I think the toolkit wouldn't continue on unless I selected another option, and then if drivers aren't installed properly (I switched between a few devices) then that can also cause the toolkit to mess up, drivers and adb would be outdated from the toolkit in-comparison to what Google offered, etc.).
Simply put, Toolkits might be nice in the beginning, but I wouldn't recommend relying on them forever If your only mission is to just root the device though, a toolkit can do that pretty painlessly.
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Absolutely agree with you on that one. My first Android device was a Infuse 4G. Every root and recovery procedure was absolutely manual. Not to mention most of the methods were hackjobs from the OG Galaxy S and required some extra coersing w/ Root Explorer and a terminal lol. Once I got my GNex, I could do anything I needed to do manually; I was actually rather shocked at how simple things were w/ a Nexus device.
Really though, I don't at all mind these toolkits, it might be important to learn what goes on behind the scripts, but lots of ppl here would have never attempted to tinker w/ android w/o some sort of script/batch automation. That said, i'm sure they cause quite a bit more traffic in the Q&A section when things to go wrong. lol
Thanks for all of the replies.
It should arrive today and I'll compare it with my Infinity first and then go from there.
Looking forward to know the N10
When I first received mine, I didnt think that I would recieve it till closer to the end of day, as stated with UPS. But it arrived at 10am! Hoping it happens the second time around for my replacement. Would love to have the whole day playing with it
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Hello, everyone!
As my title suggests, I'm a first time Samsung user, and I'm generally happy with my stock SCH-1545 S4. It definitely runs circles around my previous RAZR. I would love to change a few things on it, such as moving apps to SD and getting rid of bloatware (which may help alleviate the phone storage issue I'm facing), but am otherwise happy. I also wouldn't mind being able to extend my battery life, which is leaving me a bit frustrated.
I have successfully rooted a first generation Kindle Fire, although the root was removed during an update. Since I was able to keep the Play Store after the root removal, I didn't put the root back on. I have also successfully rooted my first generation Motorola Droid RAZR, as well as my husband's identical phone. He now has, and is happy with, his S3, and I have the S4.
So now I have this apparently wonderful phone, and I'm toying with the idea of rooting it. I have a bit of anxiety about it, however, and I'm not sure why. If it's okay, I have some questions. I have searched the forums a bit, and have some questions answered, but would like to make sure I'm okay with things before I decide whether or not to root.
What are the benefits of rooting this phone vs any other? Are the benefits the same? Would I be better off waiting for the OTA update?
If I root:
Would I be able to move apps to SD?
Would it interfere with the (hopefully soon) OTA update which will enable the app to SD?
Would I be able to improve batter life?
If for whatever reason I return this phone, would I be able to remove all traces of root?
What apps should I get if I root it? Why?
I would love recommendations for custom ROMs and why I should consider them. I know there's a lot of great ones out there, but I don't know which I would like most.
I truly appreciate any help you have to offer. Thank you!
Would I be able to move apps to SD?
Not with just root, but depending on what ROM you flash you can.
Would it interfere with the (hopefully soon) OTA update which will enable the app to SD?
Again, it just depends on the ROM you flash. I'm currently running HyperDrive which disables Verizon's OTAs.
Would I be able to improve batter life?
Yes.
I would love recommendations for custom ROMs and why I should consider them. I know there's a lot of great ones out there, but I don't know which I would like most.
I recommend HyperDrive. It's a faster version of Stock TW without the bloatware, and a lot of customizable options. i.e battery symbol, notification bar, clock, custom LEDs, etc.
mattonom said:
Would I be able to move apps to SD?
Not with just root, but depending on what ROM you flash you can.
Would it interfere with the (hopefully soon) OTA update which will enable the app to SD?
Again, it just depends on the ROM you flash.
I'm currently running HyperDrive which disables Verizon's OTAs.
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Foldermount, no?
I recommend Beans.
IamPro said:
Foldermount, no?
I recommend Beans.
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O_O I was unaware...thanks for that though.
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
I'm still on the fence, but am leaning toward rooting it. I really am not happy with all of the bloatware I can't remove.
bpmamom said:
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
I'm still on the fence, but am leaning toward rooting it. I really am not happy with all of the bloatware I can't remove.
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Getting rid of the bloat is a worthwhile reason for rooting. I'd recommend looking at CleanROM from scottsroms.com.
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This is a pretty safe phone to root, etc. Because we are bypassing, rather than hacking and unlocking the bootloader, which usually involves replacing the stock bootloader like you did with your kindle fire, the stock bootloader is there ready to save your butt. I actually think the Loki hack is better than a true unlock because of this. All the benefits with less risk.
If you get stuck, you can use Odin to flash back to stock, and because you didn't toy with the bootloader, it works. I have a kindle fire, too...it took a lot more pod fortitude to unlock and root it than this.
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Just got the OTA update popup. Have looked around and it seems like user impressions are generally pretty favorable so far.
Aside from the update breaking root access (I'm staying stock, so not a deal-breaker for me), has anyone found any fatal flaws (app incompatibility, data loss/corruption, etc.) that might be a reason to NOT install the update?
Right now, there is a work around the b loader to gain root. If u take the update, you winn not be able to root as u know.
That might not mean much to you right now. But let's say you see something like the expanded mini menu, and you want it. Well, you won't be able to root and install Xposed.apk after taking the ota until an exploit is discovered.
Leave the update to the rubes who are less then passionate about the freedom we have or ota.
Btw, apps to sd is any able to move the apk to sd but not the working app and it's data.
See below the pick of the expanded mini menu...
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MysticCobra said:
Just got the OTA update popup. Have looked around and it seems like user impressions are generally pretty favorable so far.
Aside from the update breaking root access (I'm staying stock, so not a deal-breaker for me), has anyone found any fatal flaws (app incompatibility, data loss/corruption, etc.) that might be a reason to NOT install the update?
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I'd go for it if you don't care about root access. My wife installed it and it seems to be just fine... Maybe even a bit smoother than before but that's probably placebo
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If you don't care about root then do it. I've heard it fixes a lot of the lag. That alone would make me do it.
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If you don't care about root then do it. I've heard it fixes a lot of the lag. That alone would make me do it.
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Lag reduction wasn't thst noticeable but the improvement is there. Smearing is gone which is good. Notification bar has a new affect I like. Few new icons. I like it but not enough to take the OTA on my AT&T S4. Still running MDL on that one.
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My wife took it on her S4 and is very happy - zero issues, phone is snappier.
Delakit said:
Lag reduction wasn't thst noticeable but the improvement is there. Smearing is gone which is good. Notification bar has a new affect I like. Few new icons. I like it but not enough to take the OTA on my AT&T S4. Still running MDL on that one.
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As much as I do want to see these improvements, I'm not willing to lose the ability to root and flash new roms. Here is to hoping a workaround is found soon.
Many thanks for all the responses. I did root my last phone and enjoyed the freedoms that brought. Would like to eventually root this phone, and I'm hoping that when I'm ready to do it there'll be a solution available for me, but if not it won't be the end of the world.
What I didn't want to do was the worst of both worlds: Apply the OTA and hate it, AND not be able to root.
Sounds like I won't end up in that spot, so I'll give it a shot.
MysticCobra said:
Many thanks for all the responses. I did root my last phone and enjoyed the freedoms that brought. Would like to eventually root this phone, and I'm hoping that when I'm ready to do it there'll be a solution available for me, but if not it won't be the end of the world.
What I didn't want to do was the worst of both worlds: Apply the OTA and hate it, AND not be able to root.
Sounds like I won't end up in that spot, so I'll give it a shot.
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Why devalue your phone for some stupid update?
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Most people figure out by around the second grade that different people place different values on different things. One example of this is that there are about a zillion versions of Android and a zillion different versions of Android phones to use them on.
Right now, what I value is a stock S4. You value the phone differently. We can both have what we want. Isn't that nice?
You learned something today. Hooray!
MysticCobra said:
Most people figure out by around the second grade that different people place different values on different things. One example of this is that there are about a zillion versions of Android and a zillion different versions of Android phones to use them on.
Right now, what I value is a stock S4. You value the phone differently. We can both have what we want. Isn't that nice?
You learned something today. Hooray!
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I think its hilarious that people come to XDA to talk about a stock android device.... If you want a stock android device on Verizon, Verizon has a website dedicated to the S4 its various updates... The fact that your here asking root developers if you should go stock is frankly ridiculous. I'm sorry if you don't like the answers your being given but if you don't want or need ROOT, why are you here?
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I think its hilarious that people come to XDA to talk about a stock android device.... If you want a stock android device on Verizon, Verizon has a website dedicated to the S4 its various updates... The fact that your here asking root developers if you should go stock is frankly ridiculous. I'm sorry if you don't like the answers your being given but if you don't want or need ROOT, why are you here?
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I am here because there are very knowledgable people here who push their devices to the limit. Many of these people also have friends or spouses with the same hardware but still in a stock configuration, and thus are in tune with the quirks in the stock software. Indeed, I got two helpful responses, so that alone justifies my asking the question here. Besides, there are plenty of questions on this general Q&A forum that have nothing to do with android development. "What case are you using?" "What extended battery is best?" Etc.
I rooted my last device and ran a variety of custom roms on it for almost two years. There were pros and cons to that experience. I expect that one day, if rooting my S4 is an option, I will want to do that, but I'm not ready to do it yet.
Is that really such a bizarre and alien situation that no one could possibly comprehend it? What is there about it that deserves derision or insult?
MysticCobra said:
Most people figure out by around the second grade that different people place different values on different things. One example of this is that there are about a zillion versions of Android and a zillion different versions of Android phones to use them on.
Right now, what I value is a stock S4. You value the phone differently. We can both have what we want. Isn't that nice?
You learned something today. Hooray!
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MysticCobra said:
I am here because there are very knowledgable people here who push their devices to the limit. Many of these people also have friends or spouses with the same hardware but still in a stock configuration, and thus are in tune with the quirks in the stock software. Indeed, I got two helpful responses, so that alone justifies my asking the question here. Besides, there are plenty of questions on this general Q&A forum that have nothing to do with android development. "What case are you using?" "What extended battery is best?" Etc.
I rooted my last device and ran a variety of custom roms on it for almost two years. There were pros and cons to that experience. I expect that one day, if rooting my S4 is an option, I will want to do that, but I'm not ready to do it yet.
Is that really such a bizarre and alien situation that no one could possibly comprehend it? What is there about it that deserves derision or insult?
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It's not bizarre or alien. Just an odd place to ask the question. The fact remains, you are on one of the websites that pioneered root access and spawned countless custom ROM's, Mods and Apps. You come to this website to discuss how you don't need root and are going stock and have no need of root & then you don't like the answers that the very same people who value root and push the limit of their phones give. If it were any other "development website" or chat channel you would be banned as a troll and no one would waste anymore time than they already have.