I wanted to show off the cool features of our phones when my girlfriend brought home her GS3. I pulled out my GNex to beam a photo I had taken earlier, and a notification popped up on my GNex saying the receiving device couldn't accept large files through Beam... Really? What's the point if a pic is too big? That means a video is right out of the question, and I was under the impression that that's what this whole Beam thing was about... Am I missing something? (yes to all your prelim questions too: NFC on, on both, beam on, blah blah...)
NFC transfers data at such a slow, miniscule rate that even a picture would take too long. The point of Beam is to share things like web pages and directions via maps.
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Yeah, that's why Samsung developed S Beam which does the actual transfer using wifi direct.
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yea i tried that too, needs to use same wifi network to transfer files
GNex doesn't have S Beam.
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The GNex does have wifi direct capabilities though, doesn't it? Is there a way to connect a GNex and gs3 that way to do a large file nfc transfer?
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The GNex does have wifi direct capabilities though, doesn't it?
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Hardware-wise more or less every phone has it.
Software-wise you're right.
s there a way to connect a GNex and gs3 that way to do a large file nfc transfer?
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Just use Wifi Direct or Bluetooth without NFC?
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Hardware-wise more or less every phone has it.
Software-wise you're right.
Just use Wifi Direct or Bluetooth without NFC?
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Yeah, I guess that makes sense to work. It just defeats the beam purpose that way. Does anyone know if s-beam will install on the GNex like s voice did? Or is that a hardware issue?
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I tried nfc s-beam transferring a 4.7gb mkv file and worked fine.
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I tried nfc s-beam transferring a 4.7gb mkv file and worked fine.
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What two devices were communicating though?
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psp888 said:
I tried nfc s-beam transferring a 4.7gb mkv file and worked fine.
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S-beam isn't NFC it is wifi direct isn't it?
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Sbeam uses nfc to make the connection and Wi-Fi direct to send the files, only two s3s can currently use s beam
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The GNex does have wifi direct capabilities though, doesn't it? Is there a way to connect a GNex and gs3 that way to do a large file nfc transfer?
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The Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update, which will be coming to Google Nexus soon (and Galaxy S3 apparently in Q4 of 2012), has an improved version of Android Beam that will utilize both NFC and Bluetooth (similarly to how S Beam uses NFC and Wi-Fi Direct) to be able to send larger files, which would really make S Beam redundant. So yes, it is possible, and it will come in a future update; I don't know if there exists any current alternatives at the moment, though (maybe install a custom Jelly Bean ROM when they start popping up?).
That ad where the wife shares videos using NFC is insanely misleading then. I don't really care anyways, can't see myself using this function for anything useful anyways.
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NFC transfers data at such a slow, miniscule rate that even a picture would take too long. The point of Beam is to share things like web pages and directions via maps.
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That ad where the wife shares videos using NFC is insanely misleading then. I don't really care anyways, can't see myself using this function for anything useful anyways.
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You revived a really old thread, but that commercial is not that misleading. NFC is just used to start the initial connection (as Lennyuk stated 2 posts above yours) and wifi is used to transfer the actual files.
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So anyone think it'll be possible to port many of Galaxy S III's features to the S II? I mean most of the stuff sounds like software (S Voice, pickup to call, video picture in picture, etc. etc. etc...)
Thoughts?
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So anyone think it'll be possible to port many of Galaxy S III's features to the S II? I mean most of the stuff sounds like software (S Voice, pickup to call, video picture in picture, etc. etc. etc...)
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A lot of it no because our front cameras can't sense you or whatever.. but touchwiz 5.0? Absolutely
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I don't see the point in pickup to answer unless you regularly just leave your phone laying around. I personally always keep it in my pocket so I don't see the reason for it. Video picture in picture sounds cool though.
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Hope its possible.
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A lot of it no because our front cameras can't sense you or whatever.. but touchwiz 5.0? Absolutely
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wouldn't that be software control of the hardware (camera)? I don't think it's some special hardware in the front camera.
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wouldn't that be software control of the hardware (camera)? I don't think it's some special hardware in the front camera.
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One might think it would be software control instead of hardware.
When you think about it, what allows our phones to use facelock but software?
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A lot of it no because our front cameras can't sense you or whatever.. but touchwiz 5.0? Absolutely
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Actually the 2.0MP SGS2 front camera has slightly better resolution than the 1.9MP front camera of the SGS3.
TW and the TW framework from the SGS3 would need to be back-ported to the SGS2 for the new Samsung apps to run correctly, if at all.
--L.
The only way to get these features is to have TouchWiz since its so deeply rooted into everything on the SIII.
I imaging at least some of it could but will probably take the Devs a little while to iron things out.
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I don't see the point in pickup to answer unless you regularly just leave your phone laying around. I personally always keep it in my pocket so I don't see the reason for it. Video picture in picture sounds cool though.
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The way I understand that is you can put the phone up to your ear while you read the message and it'll make the call.
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The way I understand that is you can put the phone up to your ear while you read the message and it'll make the call.
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I thought that was neat, I use GoSms so I have the call button right there if we cant port it.
The one thing that I would like ported over to our phone is the zero shutter lag.
The S beam or w/e on the Galaxy S3 just seems to use a combination of Wi-Fi Direct and NFC, and apparently allows for transfer of a 1GB file in less than 5 minutes. Can't find out whether it's a new hardware thing, or whether it's just the connectivity of NFC with the transfer being done over Wi-Fi direct or something or another. Either way, some epic stuff.
I would love to have the new touch wiz ported over. I love the interface, and the overall new look and lock screen.
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The one thing that I would like ported over to our phone is the zero shutter lag.
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This is a hardware issue not a software issue. The only way to do this is if you were to strip out the camera on your sgs 2 with the s3 one. And thats including the miracle that you don't f*ck up your phone!
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Personally, being the person who is awed by advances in technology, I really want to try the new voice recog! That looks amazing!
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The S beam or w/e on the Galaxy S3 just seems to use a combination of Wi-Fi Direct and NFC, and apparently allows for transfer of a 1GB file in less than 5 minutes. Can't find out whether it's a new hardware thing, or whether it's just the connectivity of NFC with the transfer being done over Wi-Fi direct or something or another. Either way, some epic stuff.
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From what I have read, the s beam only allows transfers up to 300 mb.
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This is a hardware issue not a software issue. The only way to do this is if you were to strip out the camera on your sgs 2 with the s3 one. And thats including the miracle that you don't f*ck up your phone!
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You sure? From what it sounds like, the cameras in the S2 and S3 are identical (we won't know for absolute certain of course until S3 comes out and someone takes it apart, but everything seems to point towards the cameras being the same). The zero-shutter lag seems to me to be a software thing; hell, I thought the zero-shutter lag was something advertised as being part of ICS, as though it would be available to all ICS-enabled phones and not just the GNex which has a worse camera than ours.
EDIT: This article also seems to suggest it's a software improvement (though it doesn't actually clearly say whether the shutter-lag is hardware or software based).
On another note, I would absolutely *LOVE* it if the SGS3 software stuff got ported over
I'd like to see the Siri knockoff come to the SGS II. They can keep the rest.
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I'd like to see the Siri knockoff come to the SGS II. They can keep the rest.
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Time to get crackin! Maybe in the next release of Serendipity? lol
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I'd like to see the Siri knockoff come to the SGS II. They can keep the rest.
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We have one called iris (siri backwards). Have it but dont use it. So don't know how well it works.
By the way still running serindipity on my daughters cappy and still flawless!
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Ok so I am trying to send a picture to a Samsung g3 via Android beam and it would send? It sends Internet pages and apps but it wound send a picture... It makes the sound but does not do anything else?
Now when I try to send a pic from the g3 to my phone the g3 makes the nosie and shrinks the pic down and says tab to send.. But once you tap it it acts like it sends but it does not send...
Any ideas?
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I don't think NFC can transfer 2mb+ but somebody correct me if ok wrong. It is used to transfer information like contacts,apps,web pages,YouTube links
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Android Beam doesn't send photos via NFC in ICS. That was a feature added in JB. Once we get the Jelly Bean update on our phones, it should work. I think it should work if your phone is running CM10.
Thanks guys.
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If the item keeps shrinking and does not send, it is usually because the NFC antennas are not lined up correctly. I assume the GS3's NFC is at exactly the middle and ours is about 1/3 down from the top, so remember to pull the Evo LTE down a bit. Android beam seems to send anything Google apps related well, but nothing else (it will just send the receiver to the play store page). The only things that send reliably for me are contacts. Pictures never seem to send well. It just makes the connection sound but doesn't give me an option to send anything.
http://www.androidcentral.com/jelly-bean-feature-sending-photos-and-videos-over-android-beam
^^^ This
I have sent pictures and videos with android beam between my and my wife's evos
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I have sent pictures and videos with android beam between my and my wife's evos
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elaborate.
I am on the road all day, when I get home I will send more details
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I have sent pictures and videos with android beam between my and my wife's evos
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I wonder if he paired with blutooth first then used NFC? I would like to know how also
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As far as I know, Android Beam is not capable of transferring large files. It only utilizes the NFC capabilities of the phone, so it is limited to small files, such as webpage links, app links, playlists, etc. The app on the GS3 utilizes the Wi-Fi in conjunction with the NFC to allow for the transfer of large files.
Down load bump from market . Works great . I'm sending things to my girls LG viper running ics as of 2 data ago
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basicly what the gs3 does is when u use the NFC to send picture it actually links the phone via WiFi direct and send the file that way.
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I can't seem to transfer videos to my friend who Owns a samsung galaxy s3... I thought jellybean allows us to transfer videos, pictures and other big files?
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I can't seem to transfer videos to my friend who Owns a samsung galaxy so... I thought jellybean allows us to transfer videos, pictures and other big files?
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Just did a quick Google search and it looks like your friend will have to disable SBeam (WiFi Direct-based) and enable Android Beam (Bluetooth-based) as the two are different.
Read more here: http://android.stackexchange.com/a/26510
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Just did a quick Google search and it looks like your friend will have to disable SBeam (WiFi Direct-based) and enable Android Beam (Bluetooth-based) as the two are different.
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thats interesting, I was wondering how they transfer videos so quickly in the samsung commercials..
I have a friend with the One X and we cant really share more than web URLs.
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thats interesting, I was wondering how they transfer videos so quickly in the samsung commercials..
I have a friend with the One X and we cant really share more than web URLs.
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He has to have jb on his One X or it won't let u transfer big files that was introduced in jb by using bluetooth
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thats interesting, I was wondering how they transfer videos so quickly in the samsung commercials..
I have a friend with the One X and we cant really share more than web URLs.
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Its a little thing called simulated images. Apple was sued in Germany for doing that and not stating it was not real world performance
When she invokes her S Beam, my LGOG vibrates, but nothing happens. Same thing when we try with my N7. My N7 has actually sent her something, but I haven't been able to receive anything from her on either device. Is there another app we should be using?
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You don't have s beam. Use android beam on both devices. Far as I know your Sol on pictures and video sharing until jb.
Ok, well, Bump worked; for anyone else out there looking for a solution. But good to know it'll work on JB.
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Here's what I've tried
I tried using NFC from my LGOG to my wife's SGS3,
I was not able to do photos, but my be able with wifi direct. I am going to play with it some more.
I was able to do the following transfers through NFC:
1) a contact
2) a web url
3) a youtube video and it started where I "bumped" the phones.
with 4.3 miracast has been added to the nexus 10, it can be found it settings under display, wireless display
Well that came out of nowhere...Nice! :victory:
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with 4.3 miracast has been added to the nexus 10, it can be found it settings under display, wireless display
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This will only matter to me if the chromecast supports it, and they never said it did.
This is awesome, now I just need to get a miracast compatible receiving device...
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Really?
That would be awesome!!
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are there any cheap miracast receivers out there?
Is there a reason I'd use miracast over chromecast since I just bought one of those?
Sorry but what exactly is miracast?
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Sorry but what exactly is miracast?
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Wireless display.
abdel12345 said:
Sorry but what exactly is miracast?
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It's a wireless display technology, so you can broadcast video from your device to another display over WiFi.
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Wireless display.
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It's a wireless display technology, so you can broadcast video from your device to another display over WiFi.
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OK that's cool thanks so would this work with a computer or laptop or does it need a certain device from Google? As I see some ofmyounare saying you need a miracast enabled device to use it with.
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OK that's cool thanks so would this work with a computer or laptop or does it need a certain device from Google? As I see some ofmyounare saying you need a miracast enabled device to use it with.
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Like you said, has to be a miracast enabled device. I don't know of any computer program to enable it. I believe the devices are mostly smart tv and some blu-ray players. I'm hoping the new chromecast will support it.
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Like you said, has to be a miracast enabled device. I don't know of any computer program to enable it. I believe the devices are mostly smart tv and some blu-ray players. I'm hoping the new chromecast will support it.
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OK thanks. I guess this is useless for me as I don't have a smart TV but maybe it will come in handy later or at a friends house
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OK thanks. I guess this is useless for me as I don't have a smart TV but maybe it will come in handy later or at a friends house
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If the chromecast device works you'll have a smart tv for $35 assuming you live in the US. I don't think it is available outside of the us at the moment. The device is pretty small, around the size of a large USB thumb drive judging from the pictures and plugs into hdmi.
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If the chromecast device works you'll have a smart tv for $35 assuming you live in the US. I don't think it is available outside of the us at the moment. The device is pretty small, around the size of a large USB thumb drive judging from the pictures and plugs into hdmi.
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Awesome I do love in the us though I'm currently out of the country but I'll be back in 1 month. I'll have to look up this chrome cast. So you just plug it in your TV and it uses the TV as a monitor and sort of makes it a smart TV? Well if I understood right that's sweet especially for only 35 dollars.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/24/4552204/google-reveals-chromecast-tv-streaming Some of the comments suggest it doesn't support miracast which is lame.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/24/4552204/google-reveals-chromecast-tv-streaming Some of the comments suggest it doesn't support miracast which is lame.
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Well it still looks cool and I'm going to check it out. You can always use Google remote and that is pretty similar to miracast I think
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Can anyone else confirm?
What about lag and frame drops?
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Can anyone else confirm?
What about lag and frame drops?
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They have added Miracast but the performance isn't great on my PTV3000. However, my PTV3000 is pretty terrible so it could easily be of no fault of the Nexus 10.
I thought I noticed a new option but I couldn't remember if it was there the whole time
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/24/4552204/google-reveals-chromecast-tv-streaming Some of the comments suggest it doesn't support miracast which is lame.
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Chromecast does not support Miracast.
And given that it's only in the 2.4ghz range only, that's probably a good thing. In most of my use cases, you probably wouldn't want to use it without 5ghz.
It's designed a little differently though - instead of going from the internet, through the device, to your monitor/TV, Chromecast takes the content directly from the internet using your phone more like a remote. The quality of the stream should be much better.
But of course you lose the ability to mirror the screen of your device on your monitor/TV.
I prefer the better quality stream for most wireless streaming and will use my HDMI cable when I need a mirror as the performance was better with that anyway.