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Bypassing HTC Dev Unlock would be one less step for new phones to get ready for customization. And it would eliminate warranty worries about HTC's ominous warnings when unlocking the bootloader.
The Sensation now has a method to achieve S-off via temp root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26280760
Unfortunately, I don't have the ability at this time to ask the JuopunutBear team in IRC myself about the possibility of porting this method to the Rezound.
What input does the Rezound community have on the technical aspect of this? I know there are temp root methods such as this buried in the Development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19924490
I think if you use the current HTC roots (ie for one x, evo 4g LTE) then flash their boot image (assuming it disables emmc write lock) then reboot to that then run their tool it will work.
con247 said:
I think if you use the current HTC roots (ie for one x, evo 4g LTE) then flash their boot image (assuming it disables emmc write lock) then reboot to that then run their tool it will work.
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Good deal, will look into those methods. Had my phone S-on and on 1.02.605.6 this past weekend for a bit, got curious.
Really wish I wasn't out of town when I got an itch to test something out. lol.
I could be wrong an it could brick lol. But it is worth maybe trying or looking into.
I haven't looked into this in a while, but now that the OTA is available, I researched this a bit more last night.
Traced the method used by the Senastion back through the One X files. These are derivatives of the SparkyRoot method used first on the Transformer Prime:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439429
This method and the NachoRoot method use an exploit that may have been patched if I'm interpreting this data correctly. I tried a modded script for the Rezound on the 3.14.605.10 stock RUU, but no dice. The ICS OTA is still Android 4.0.3 which may mean the vulnerability is still there given the timeline of that patch.
Now the title may as well read "New Temp/Perm Root Method?" as that is what is required to bypass HTCDev Unlock altogether. But if and when such a method arises, that will get its own thread. It would be a useful tool for not only S-off, but a new round of bloatware removers.
Still looking around at other devices and vulnerabilities that could be used on the Rezound. Any input is welcome, I'm no coder but curious enough to find a way.
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THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR REGAINING S-OFF
DO NOT PERFORM THIS METHOD IF YOU WISH TO KEEP S-OFF
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So i didnt want to wait for the devs to update thier roms, and i wanted the radio updates as well. for all those ppl say not to do the OTA you will losew root until a new method is found are not correct. Yes you will lose root, but you can get it back. and its easy. Here are the steps
1. Relock boot loader
2. apply RUU for the same rom version you are running http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645890
3. rerun RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter
3a. It will sucessfully unlock and flash the recovery on your phone, but it will fail to root it.
3b. Download the rooting files http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/HTCEvo4GLTE/rooting/Evo4GLTERoot2.zip
4. Extract the contents of the zip file
5. Copy the file CWM-SuperSU-v0.87.zip to your SD card
6. Reboot to recovery
7. Flash CWM-SuperSU-v0.87.zip
8. Reboot to system and Viola you have have a rooted install
But can you still unlock with Lazy Panda?
EDIT: I realize you can unlock with the RegawMod unlock, but I have no doubt HTC's unlock tool will work.
Try to lazy panda your new hboot
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Try to lazy panda your new hboot
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This is really the main(only?) concern.
Sent from my LTEvo
You are not correct. People are not saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose root", they're saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose the ability to S-OFF".
This happened with the Evo 3D. We had S-OFF for HBOOT 1.4, and then an OTA comes that upgrades to HBOOT 1.5. The S-OFF exploit was patched with 1.5, making it damn near impossible to S-OFF.
Seriously. If you're even remotely considering S-OFF, don't bother with applying the OTA. Wait for ROM devs to incorporate the OTA into their custom ROMs, because they will do it in a way that doesn't change your HBOOT or any other sensitive partition.
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You are not correct. People are not saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose root", they're saying "Don't do the OTA because you'll lose the ability to S-OFF".
This happened with the Evo 3D. We had S-OFF for HBOOT 1.4, and then an OTA comes that upgrades to HBOOT 1.5. The S-OFF exploit was patched with 1.5, making it damn near impossible to S-OFF.
Seriously. If you're even remotely considering S-OFF, don't bother with applying the OTA. Wait for ROM devs to incorporate the OTA into their custom ROMs, because they will do it in a way that doesn't change your HBOOT or any other sensitive partition.
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Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
HseloMein said:
Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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Dude, just listen to LiquidSolstice on this one. DO NOT OTA an already S-OFF PHONE! Literally in a few hours we will probably have a stock / rooted ROM posted. Just have patience.
HseloMein said:
Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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The compelling reason to S-OFF is the fact that HTC and Sprint are never made aware in the slightest that you have done anything to your phone. The Dev unlock runs and tells HTC and Sprint that you are messing with your device. If done correctly, S-OFF gives you complete unfettered access to your phone, and with the proper tools, you can ensure you don't have to deal with the warning text on the screen that almost criminalizes you for having the audacity to unlock your phone.
People who are S-ON and HTC Dev unlocked ultimately run into strange issues down the road. You just wait until full AOSP comes around. On the Evo 3D, it was a nightmare. Even on the One-X, they're having issues because their boot partition is still locked and they can't use custom kernels (though I don't think that's as much of an issue with our phones).
S-OFF is so easy to perform, and the ONLY type of soft-brick that sometimes happens when performing it can be easily fixed with a dedicated tool. There is literally no downside to being S-OFF.
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with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF
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I'd love to see you have the H-boot say S-ON and ***locked*** while still rooted
While your at it, go ahead try to remove the red HTC text as well.
HseloMein said:
Sure you may lose the ability to "S-OFF" but in all honesty, with these phones I can do every thing with S-ON, that you can do with S-OFF, except i have a couple of extra steps. Honestly the only reason i would S-OFF is to flash the radios easier. but how many times do you acutually flash a different radio to your phone? I do about every time there is a new update.
This is really for the people the HTC and RegawMod Unlock. Lazy Panda ppl continue to heed the disclaimer. I have no desire to completly S-OFF, unless someone can come with with a compelling reason to do so.
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Lol so much fail. Good luck with that bro. I'm keeping my s-off
No one should follow this guy. You better hope it doesn't come back to bite you in the ass.
And you sir are in denial.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Rxpert said:
I'd love to see you have the H-boot say S-ON and ***locked*** while still rooted
While your at it, go ahead try to remove the red HTC text as well.
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And although this may seem like just a visual thing, I have a friend who sent his phone in Dev unlocked and they denied his Google Wallet claim to replace the phone.
He then got his phone S-OFF'd through LazyPanda, changed the bootloader text, and sent it in again, and granted, I didn't think it would go through, but they accepted it that time.
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And although this may seem like just a visual thing, I have a friend who sent his phone in Dev unlocked and they denied his Google Wallet claim to replace the phone.
He then got his phone S-OFF'd through LazyPanda, changed the bootloader text, and sent it in again, and granted, I didn't think it would go through, but they accepted it that time.
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Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
HseloMein said:
Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
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While I respect your choice, I must also respectfully disagree with it. Regardless of what I think, you did take the time to explain how to re-root, and for that, I can't fault you. Thanks for your contribution.
HseloMein said:
Well that is a compelling reason for me, but i still think the 1st post is good for ppl that do not want to S-OFF after doing an HTC unlock. Im sure there are other users out there like me. The disclaimers and watermarks dont bother me in the slightest.
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A recognized developer warning us should be enough reason.
OMG pbedard thanking my post? The world has just ended, lol.
Nice to see you again pbedard
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if you do accept the new update and lose S-OFF can you not just run the original RUU to get back to the release image which allows you to S-OFF again?
Once you apply the ota it installs a new hboot that blocks the current s-off method so keep that in mind. I don't know if running a ruu reverts the hboot.
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
RoidPusher said:
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but if you do accept the new update and lose S-OFF can you not just run the original RUU to get back to the release image which allows you to S-OFF again?
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Nope. Keep your hboot. It can be difficult if not impossible to downgrade hboot.
Sent from an EVO 4G LTE using Tapatalk 2.
HseloMein, would you mind editing the title of this thread (maybe add [S-ON] at the beginning) to indicate that it may affect the ability to get S-OFF in the future.
david279 said:
Once you apply the ota it installs a new hboot that blocks the current s-off method so keep that in mind. I don't know if running a ruu reverts the hboot.
Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
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Is this fact or assumption on the HBOOT Update? I'm S-off and no damn way am I taking the update BUT I thought I'd ask just for general knowledge. Back on the 3D, while we did get the HBOOT update, at least if you were S-off before the HBOOT update you held on to that and weren't stuck like chuck with HBOOT 1.50.000, what a nightmare. We were able to downgrade the HBOOT as long as you were S-off but why go through all that pain. I guess the saving grace here is that we really do have a pretty good "official" Dev unlock that doensn't totally screw you like the half baked unlock we got from HTC for the EVO 3D.
I need to get the word out to any and all LTE owners I know to not take it before I can S-off their phones.... might be a busy rest of the week! :laugh:
Thanks
Forgive me for starting a new thread; I've utilized the search here and some Google-fu, but still have questions for the community.
I recently upgraded to an HTC Rezound from a Thunderbolt, and have accepted the stock OTA ICS update last weekend.
This has not stopped me from Rooting the device, however. Using an All-In-One Toolkit downloaded here, I was able to Unlock the Bootloader, Install custom Recovery (ClockWorkMod Touch), and have SU flashed. All signs point to root, but I would like to know a few things.
- Is there currently any method of acquiring S-OFF, other than the juopunutBear "Wire Trick"? It sounds incredibly risky, and I feel a bit hesitant to try it connecting pins on the back of my phone with insulated wire... I would like to have S-OFF, in case I want to roll back using a PH98IMG.zip
After rooting, I noticed that the text ****TAMPERED**** appears above the UNLOCKED line when I power on into HBOOT. Is this normal? Or have I messed things up? The best answer I have gleaned so far is from another device's forum, and that this simply indicates that I have root.
Would love to hear some feedback. This is my 5th Smartphone starting with the G1, and I have rooted every single one within days. Only the Rezound seems to be the trickiest for me.
Let me know your thoughts, thanks.
The hboot says tampered after you install a custom recovery so that's normal. I was the same way about s-off it seemed to risky and complicated but in all honesty it is very simple. It's our only way to get s-off and the main thing is getting the timing right for the wire trick. I got it on my second try. I would say just read up on it and gain as much info until you feel comfortable to do it.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
big_mike_2k6 said:
The hboot says tampered after you install a custom recovery so that's normal. I was the same way about s-off it seemed to risky and complicated but in all honesty it is very simple. It's our only way to get s-off and the main thing is getting the timing right for the wire trick. I got it on my second try. I would say just read up on it and gain as much info until you feel comfortable to do it.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
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Thanks, that confirms a number of suspicions. & As I understand it, I need to be S-OFF in order to flash a custom ROM, correct?
And this is due to the fact that I not only have to flash the ROM in recovery, but also flash a Kernel through HBOOT?
I want to start flashing custom ROMs, but in the meantime, I'm fairly happy with rooted ICS. Got Google Now working, removed 'App Associations' menu, and removed the VZW crapware, so root is working out rather well
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Thanks, that confirms a number of suspicions. & As I understand it, I need to be S-OFF in order to flash a custom ROM, correct?
And this is due to the fact that I not only have to flash the ROM in recovery, but also flash a Kernel through HBOOT?
I want to start flashing custom ROMs, but in the meantime, I'm fairly happy with rooted ICS. Got Google Now working, removed 'App Associations' menu, and removed the VZW crapware, so root is working out rather well
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You don't need to be s-off to flash a Rom but you do need to flash the kernel separate in hboot when you're s-on. When you're s-off you don't have to. I myself usually stay fairly close to stock with a few tweaks here and there and of course Verizons crap long gone.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
One more thing... Given my software version, etc, if I S-OFF now, would I bork my device?
Also, it looks like at the unlimited.io site, there is only a Windows version of juopunutbear for Gingerbread, and early ICS versions. My phone's software is on version is 3.14.605.12; does this mean I should abandon attempting to S-OFF ?
deadsoulboy said:
One more thing... Given my software version, etc, if I S-OFF now, would I bork my device?
Also, it looks like at the unlimited.io site, there is only a Windows version of juopunutbear for Gingerbread, and early ICS versions. My phone's software is on version is 3.14.605.12; does this mean I should abandon attempting to S-OFF ?
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No you'll be fine doing it on your current version. You can use the file from the unlimited.io site for the 3.14.605.05 ics leak it works with the official ics update.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
i know clockwork will bork your device im not sure if the touch version does the same thing.
I recommend installing Amon Ra recovery or TWRP.
If i helped thanks me
Okay, so here goes...
A friend of a friend has a AT&T 64GB HTC One (in silver, if anyone cares...)
I, being the phone guru in the eastern parts of the GTA in Ontario (Yes, I am a Canadian,
was contacted earlier this week to solve a rather confusing issue to which I find myself rather dumbfounded.
PROBLEM: Phone-owner rooted, unlocked the bootloader and s-off'ed using RevOne. He attempted a Google Edition conversion with success or so he thought, now the phone works fine except for any carrier based service of any kind, sim is detected but, no service of any kind works. During the conversion he re-locked bootloader, flipped s-off to s-on and unrooted. Root has been re-achieved, and I'm looking into HBOOT version for s-off and the ability to re-unlock bootloader. TWRP is the currently installed recovery, when a sense-based rom is installed, it says sim is locked. I'm quite adept at android everything and this kind of stumps me and is my first take at HTC One development.
Any help greatly appreciated, thanks!
RedHazy said:
Okay, so here goes...
A friend of a friend has a AT&T 64GB HTC One (in silver, if anyone cares...)
I, being the phone guru in the eastern parts of the GTA in Ontario (Yes, I am a Canadian,
was contacted earlier this week to solve a rather confusing issue to which I find myself rather dumbfounded.
PROBLEM: Phone-owner rooted, unlocked the bootloader and s-off'ed using RevOne. He attempted a Google Edition conversion with success or so he thought, now the phone works fine except for any carrier based service of any kind, sim is detected but, no service of any kind works. During the conversion he re-locked bootloader, flipped s-off to s-on and unrooted. Root has been re-achieved, and I'm looking into HBOOT version for s-off and the ability to re-unlock bootloader. TWRP is the currently installed recovery, when a sense-based rom is installed, it says sim is locked. I'm quite adept at android everything and this kind of stumps me and is my first take at HTC One development.
Any help greatly appreciated, thanks!
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I usually find better answers over in the HTC ONE thread ...not the AT&T HTC ONE (just my personal experience).
I believe I've heard people mention try turning Airplane mode off and on (probably not going to work in this case...just throwing it out there)
MOD EDIT: In order to prevent undue questions and excessive off-topic I'm making this edit to the op to inform the users revone does not support HBOOT 1.54.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
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MindProbe said:
I usually find better answers over in the HTC ONE thread ...not the AT&T HTC ONE (just my personal experience).
I believe I've heard people mention try turning Airplane mode off and on (probably not going to work in this case...just throwing it out there)
MOD EDIT: In order to prevent undue questions and excessive off-topic I'm making this edit to the op to inform the users revone does not support HBOOT 1.54.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582
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I have read the HBOOT version craziness, s-off was attained on an earlier version. I'll ask some question the One thread as MindProbe suggested or if anyone has any further ideas or suggestions, please help! Thanks
I'm assuming moonshine doesn't support 1.54 either.
I have an HTC One on T-Mobile still running Android 4.1.2 (Sense 5.0). I haven't updated because I intend to root the device (tbh, intended to 3 months ago) and when I asked about it back then I was advised to S-OFF first, then run OTA update, then root.
I'm just checking back to make sure that that is still the correct course of action, and that my understanding is more or less correct ... I believe that because I have hboot 1.44 I can *not* use rumrunner for S-OFF, and should use revone or moonshine instead (and I have no idea how to choose which one to use).
So my plan, unless anyone corrects my noobish misconceptions, is to:
1. decide between revone and moonshine
2. S-OFF
3. root
I have also read something about not updating my hboot from 1.44, but honestly I don't know when that would normally happen or what I have to do (if anything) to prevent/avoid it, or what relationship updating hboot has to the rooting process.
I hope you'll forgive my ignorance, and warn me if I'm headed in the wrong direction. Obviously I have some learning to do, and I plan to seek at least a remedial education in these concepts before embarking ... I guess that's what I'm doing now.
thanks for any assistance you can provide...
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I have an HTC One on T-Mobile still running Android 4.1.2 (Sense 5.0). I haven't updated because I intend to root the device (tbh, intended to 3 months ago) and when I asked about it back then I was advised to S-OFF first, then run OTA update, then root.
I'm just checking back to make sure that that is still the correct course of action, and that my understanding is more or less correct ... I believe that because I have hboot 1.44 I can *not* use rumrunner for S-OFF, and should use revone or moonshine instead (and I have no idea how to choose which one to use).
So my plan, unless anyone corrects my noobish misconceptions, is to:
1. decide between revone and moonshine
2. S-OFF
3. root
I have also read something about not updating my hboot from 1.44, but honestly I don't know when that would normally happen or what I have to do (if anything) to prevent/avoid it, or what relationship updating hboot has to the rooting process.
I hope you'll forgive my ignorance, and warn me if I'm headed in the wrong direction. Obviously I have some learning to do, and I plan to seek at least a remedial education in these concepts before embarking ... I guess that's what I'm doing now.
thanks for any assistance you can provide...
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You can achieve S-Off and unlock (without HTCDev) using the HTC One toolkit (which utilizes revone) from squabbi here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364445
From there you should have no problems updating or flashing to whatever you want. At that point - even a full conversion to Gev Edition, GPe, etc is most definitely do-able.:good:
PhoenixPath said:
You can achieve S-Off and unlock (without HTCDev) using the HTC One toolkit (which utilizes revone) from squabbi here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364445
From there you should have no problems updating or flashing to whatever you want. At that point - even a full conversion to Gev Edition, GPe, etc is most definitely do-able.:good:
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Wow, I just downloaded & opened that toolkit, thanks! I wish I had it three days ago (though probably learned more by not having it), but I'll still get good use out of it now.
I've seen a few statements implying that it's better to unlock "without HTCDev", but haven't seen an explanation ... have I lost something specific by going through HTCDev to get my unlock token? (Or is it just a general desire to not have big brother know that we're mucking around with our device?)
I'm now unlocked, rooted, S-OFF, and updated to 4.3, deciding what to tinker with next...
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Wow, I just downloaded & opened that toolkit, thanks! I wish I had it three days ago (though probably learned more by not having it), but I'll still get good use out of it now.
I've seen a few statements implying that it's better to unlock "without HTCDev", but haven't seen an explanation ... have I lost something specific by going through HTCDev to get my unlock token? (Or is it just a general desire to not have big brother know that we're mucking around with our device?)
I'm now unlocked, rooted, S-OFF, and updated to 4.3, deciding what to tinker with next...
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Unlocking through HTCDev puts a flag on your device (in their database) making it harder to get repairs or warranty service (exchanges).
Have fun tinkering!