can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
It is always recommended to not accept any ota updates once rooted as you may lose root and the ability to root in the future. The dev's will post a stock rooted updated rom within a day or two. I would wait and flash that.
I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
ekz13 said:
I'm sure you could, but give the devs time they will work this into an update fairly quickly I"m sure. you never know what OTA is going to break root or worse.
I wouldn't take the OTA. be patient
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Thanks I appreciate the quick response.
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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I wouldn't trust it.
ReproOne said:
I have root with the stock ROM, and I am using RootKeeper. Has anyone verified that you can apply the OTA update and restore root with RootKeeper?
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Take the advises from above and wait. I'm also waiting a little longer before flashing a ROM. If you want the fixes from this update just download MEAN ROM and install it, it already has most of this fixes incorporate. The most important feature for me is tethering and I already got it.
chico1983 said:
can this update be done if you are rooted and unlock?
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It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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natefuhr said:
It's being discussed all over the boards... But, yes, this update breaks root...
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Anyone know if it removes s-off?
I'm half rooted not unlock can I take it i don't mind if I loose it
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
xHausx said:
General rule of thumb is to never accept OTAs if you plan on being or are rooted. If you have s-off that should be safe though, far as I know the only way to lose it is to manually turn it back on.
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njfoses said:
There is a new hboot included in this ota so i would be very careful even if s-off.
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Dang njfoses. xHausx's comment was going to give me confidence enough to update and then you go and throw some doubt back in my mind. Oh well.
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Is it possible to take a OTA update while rooted? I am still on the stock Rom. And if so, will it unroot me?
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Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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1234567188 said:
Nope I believe that is one of the benefits of s-off
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
your best bet is to wait a few hours and someone will make a rooted version of the new ota... but chances are we will have the ota update weeks before it is ever pushed to any non rooted phones... at the moment .6 is stock.. and all the roms are .9 so all I"m waiting on is a new radio update to hopefully fix this wacky 3g signal I get
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Wrong!
You can take the update, it will unroot you, AND if the new update includes a new HBOOT it will flash over and give you a security warning and/or S-ON.
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What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
HorsexD said:
What he Said but I Think you have to be Rooted Running stock kernel/Rom for it to even take the OTA
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If it detects you are a lower version then the OTA it will still attempt to upgrade.
Ok. From what I understand, the OTA won't automatically install if I am rooted. Which is good. But if I wanted to I could force the OTA to install?
But from what some people in this thread say, it's not worth it, and I could just get a unrooted version of the OTA from here at some point?
Is that all correct?
I am only interested because I heard there was a big OTA coming on the 16th, and I expect that it will fix a bunch of random stuff on the TB. So I'd like to get it.
I'm pretty sure you need to have stock recovery installed to install the OTA. If using CWM it will not install.
Wow this is interesting...i flashed a new radio yesterday is this the new ota update.
jcase said he thinks the leaked ruu is supposed to be the first OTA.
Anyone know if firmware updates safe wont interfere with Teamwin root?
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Anyone know if firmware updates safe wont interfere with Teamwin root?
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According to Teamwin it will not affect root. I have not taken update yet. After root, don't take any OTA updates though.
Just to b safe, never accept OTA updates
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Anyone know if firmware updates safe wont interfere with Teamwin root?
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Vdubtx said:
According to Teamwin it will not affect root. I have not taken update yet. After root, don't take any OTA updates though.
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and they reccomend not taking anymore, until we know whats going on..
Right on guys I will hold off then.
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So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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The update patches all known root exploits, meaning you probably won't lose root but will lose the ability to re-root should something happen. My advice, just wait til you're ready to flash a custom ROM which will likely already have the update cooked into it without any possible negative side effects.
I would wait until people confirm if it takes away root, etc... In general with a rooted phone OTA updates are a NO. Wait until someone posts a rooted version in here.
Oh and one more thing... don't ever post in the development section, Q&A section is your friend.
Once u root do not ever take any ota updates. It's been stated multiple times. If u want the update just wait and there are 100% stock roms with updates usually within a day or two of the ota update. Either u want to move foward with ur rooted device and flash roms, even if it is stock, or stick with what u got. If u can root ur own phone flashing roms isn't anything to worry about.
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So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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As far as I know you wont be able to install OTA on rooted device.
Ok. I wasn't sure if anyone was working on a stock rom but ill wait. Is there any roms you guys recommend that are stock looking but worth running? Also I will use the q & a forum next time. I thought since this dealt with root and roms this would be the place. Sorry.
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I heard that u should ineligible take the update and root again.
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For some reason when i got my new device a day ago hboot is 1.5 and i did the OTA security update, with the method below i was able to flash Custom ROM and Kernel
sidenote: if you dont flash the kernel i posted below you wont have wifi or 4G
(S-on but still able to flash anyROM with your eyes close)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Kernel
(with this kernel i was able to flash to get everything working, without it you wont have Wifi or 4g fyi)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659
I Hope this help... Thank me later!!
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The update patches all known root exploits
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I don't this that's true at all. I've read a few posts saying people still have root after applying the update to a stock rooted rom. They just had to change permissions in the superuser directory and everything worked after that.
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I don't this that's true at all. I've read a few posts saying people still have root after applying the update to a stock rooted rom. They just had to change permissions in the superuser directory and everything worked after that.
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No no, I'm not saying you will lose root by updating, I'm saying I read somewhere that it patches up the exploits that revolutionary uses to get s-off. In other words, if you have hboot 1.3 or 1.4 then you probably won't be able to get s-off. I don't remember who posted that but it was a respectable dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321452
mwalt2 just uploaded this =] gunna try out and see whats up with the update
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So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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No no, I'm not saying you will lose root by updating, I'm saying I read somewhere that it patches up the exploits that revolutionary uses to get s-off. In other words, if you have hboot 1.3 or 1.4 then you probably won't be able to get s-off. I don't remember who posted that but it was a respectable dev.
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The update doesn't contain an HBOOT. It has a new recovery, removes and patches/updates some things in /system, and has an updated boot.img. I suppose it does check to see if you are on the latest ROM (2.08.651.2, which is the one that patches AlphaRev's s-off method) before it will install though. By itself, the update will either fail to install (probably if you don't have HBOOT 1.5 or a custom ROM) or it will install and you'll be just fine using root once you change permissions on the su directory.
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I lost root after the latest OTA , and wont try anything until something safe is out, heard a few people tried the Regawmod and now the phone is dead paperweight!!
Nothing is out yet, but I am sure that the Dev's are working on it. :good:
It's crazy the amount of people that took the OTA update and were rooted. No offence to the OP, just seeing this ? Popping up all over the forum . It really is madness taking the update if your concerned about root.
Hope all works out for you man
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I took the OTA and I'm rooted again.... It's not even that difficult.
I wanted google wallet and I wanted it bad! So I ran thru the hastle of hacking Google wallet so I could get into settings and clear it. Then HTC re-locked my phone. Ran the RUU, then accepted the OTA. From here I ran the HTC unlock again. Then flashed TWRP (I used adb fastboot method):
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98
Once that's installed you can flash supersu via this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Find: CWM installable ZIP in the OPs sig block (it works fine with TWRP on 1.22 software)
From there I just installed busybox (by Stepen) via the market. Grabbed Titanium Backup, and here I am. Rooted phone with 1.22 stock ROM.
Not all of the old mods work anymore though. My favorite, which was the battery mods, don't work. They don't even come close to working, so make sure you nandroid backup before you start tinkering..
Nah!! too complicated...I just wait for a new method.
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I took the OTA and I'm rooted again.... It's not even that difficult.
I wanted google wallet and I wanted it bad! So I ran thru the hastle of hacking Google wallet so I could get into settings and clear it. Then HTC re-locked my phone. Ran the RUU, then accepted the OTA. From here I ran the HTC unlock again. Then flashed TWRP (I used adb fastboot method):
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98
Once that's installed you can flash supersu via this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Find: CWM installable ZIP in the OPs sig block (it works fine with TWRP on 1.22 software)
From there I just installed busybox (by Stepen) via the market. Grabbed Titanium Backup, and here I am. Rooted phone with 1.22 stock ROM.
Not all of the old mods work anymore though. My favorite, which was the battery mods, don't work. They don't even come close to working, so make sure you nandroid backup before you start tinkering..
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I received similar advice from a forum moderator, and as soon as I have time and the ability to singularly focus on the process, I will give this a try.
However, I think a lot of us want the one-step method for rooting the LTE with the new OTA installed. For those of us new to the process and negative results, we chalked this up as one of the infamous "lessons learned."
Thanks!
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~ Mike
michael.stollaire said:
I received similar advice from a forum moderator, and as soon as I have time and the ability to singularly focus on the process, I will give this a try.
However, I think a lot of us want the one-step method for rooting the LTE with the new OTA installed. For those of us new to the process and negative results, we chalked this up as one of the infamous "lessons learned."
Thanks!
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~ Mike
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If you're sitting there with the OTA already applied....the whole process takes about 5 minutes. I would love to script it out, but I'm still learning, and have no idea how to do that. If anyone here knows a little something, I'd be more than happy to help/test/etc. I'd love to be able to give the community a one click root for the OTA....
Have you tryed this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Yeah I'm also waiting for a new one click root method.
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HTC dev unlock and flash recovery over fastboot. It's so simple.
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mexiking713 said:
HTC dev unlock and flash recovery over fastboot. It's so simple.
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I'm attempting this right now, instead of waiting for the one-click.
michael.stollaire said:
I'm attempting this right now, instead of waiting for the one-click.
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Good If you need help let me know :good:
I unrooted my phone just so I could takebthe OTA update but I was already S-Off as well. Now I got the nu update I was gonna root it back but it was impossible so I found the FoxFi app 2 do free WiFi tether & I was happy with tht. Long as tht app is around I dont need root.
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still no new way of rooting?
engelsione said:
still no new way of rooting?
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Nope..... never take an OTA. Never
HTC dev is all you can use right now, and its more restrictive than ever
Let us hope they find another way soon.
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Rxpert said:
Nope..... never take an OTA. Never
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This is Cardinal rule #1
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Htc/sprint release otas to patch the vulnerabilities used to gain root, and they add just enough sprinkles on top to make people want to take them
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...s/192777-evo-4g-lte-1-22-651-3-root-easy.html
Try here...
I was wondering if any experienced DEV or anyone with correct information can tell us what we will need in order to receive an OTA update (be it tomorrow or whenever) if we are S-OFF? Please verify which ROM,RADIO,HBOOT,etc.. we need to be on in order to receive the update. Thanks to whomever can assist.
frontlyna said:
I was wondering if any experienced DEV or anyone with correct information can tell us what we will need in order to receive an OTA update (be it tomorrow or whenever) if we are S-OFF? Please verify which ROM,RADIO,HBOOT,etc.. we need to be on in order to receive the update. Thanks to whomever can assist.
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if you want ota update just s-on your phone
you hboot will be overwritten anyway
so whats the sense?
frontlyna said:
I was wondering if any experienced DEV or anyone with correct information can tell us what we will need in order to receive an OTA update (be it tomorrow or whenever) if we are S-OFF? Please verify which ROM,RADIO,HBOOT,etc.. we need to be on in order to receive the update. Thanks to whomever can assist.
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Devs will get the update and put out a new ROM. Someone will pull the new HBOOT out of the update package and you'll flash in the bootloader.
Just like before.
Thread moved to Q&A.
If you want to stay rooted don't ever accept OTAs. Wait till someone posts a rooted version instead.
Thanks guys. Also, will a new hboot be required to flash a rooted jb sense rom.?
dont take the OTA
wait a couple days for the files to be dumped then we will make roms for it
i know i will be porting my rom to this goodness
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I was wondering if any experienced DEV or anyone with correct information can tell us what we will need in order to receive an OTA update (be it tomorrow or whenever) if we are S-OFF? Please verify which ROM,RADIO,HBOOT,etc.. we need to be on in order to receive the update. Thanks to whomever can assist.
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Wait for Captian_Throwback to update his radios thread
I'm currently on stock with s-on and unlocked bootloader. I want to take the ota but I'm worried that my boot get locked again. Can i still root it after the update?
Thanks in advance.
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romeoh said:
I'm currently on stock with s-on and unlocked bootloader. I want to take the ota but I'm worried that my boot get locked again. Can i still root it after the update?
Thanks in advance.
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Well you have to relock your bootloader to take the OTA
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Thanks guys. Also, will a new hboot be required to flash a rooted jb sense rom.?
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Hboot is the only piece you don't want. What I did last time was download the pcimg file that contained latest firmware, radio, pri, prl, etc...
Make sure it dosen't contain kernel, hboot, or recovery.
Flash the new radios by booting into boot loader, then wait a day or two until ur favorite rom maker has updated their rom. Then flash that with recovery
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Well you have to relock your bootloader to take the OTA
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And what about twrb and supersu? Do i need to remove them before the relock and install them back after the update?
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romeoh said:
And what about twrb and supersu? Do i need to remove them before the relock and install them back after the update?
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I don't think you need to remove them just relock/take the OTA/unlock again install twrp and supersu
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I don't think you need to remove them just relock/take the OTA/unlock again install twrp and supersu
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Thanks again bro. I Can't wait till i get some good JB
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frontlyna said:
I was wondering if any experienced DEV or anyone with correct information can tell us what we will need in order to receive an OTA update (be it tomorrow or whenever) if we are S-OFF? Please verify which ROM,RADIO,HBOOT,etc.. we need to be on in order to receive the update. Thanks to whomever can assist.
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For the love of god DON'T TAKE THE OTA. Just wait a couple of hours and a dev will have a firmware and rooted stock Rom to update your phone to the latest and greatest. You waited this long whats a couple of hours.
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DO NOT take the OTA update if you do you take the chance not to be able to get root or S-OFF again. Wait for the Devs to release it
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scoot0073 said:
DO NOT take the OTA update if you do you take the chance not to be able to get root or S-OFF again. Wait for the Devs to release it
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Not entirely true, you can lose soff but root is easily achievable. HTC allows the bootloader to be unlocked for development purposes. You would still be able to unlock and flash recovery. From there you can flash a Rom and then kernel in fastboot
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For the love of god DON'T TAKE THE OTA. Just wait a couple of hours and a dev will have a firmware and rooted stock Rom to update your phone to the latest and greatest. You waited this long whats a couple of hours.
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If you aren't s-off, the only way to update the radio is to take the ota. There has been an s-off method that's easy to use now for awhile and if you haven't used it yet than you might as well take the ota since s-off must not be important to them.
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